Gunner Mafia [Endgame]

[beeboy]

VOTE: Mafia

Sheep me please.

[beeboy]

awww I was hoping my vote would redirect to a player.

[beeboy]

just assume Chara is posting, by the way. :>

Don't look at me, I'm lurking

that hurts my feelings.
/replace



/s

that hurts my feelings.
/replace



/s

i used to be so good about slipping.

Don't look at me, I'm lurking

Woops, alt slip.

VOTE: Centipede Syndrome

Something about this doesn't feel right.

~The Observer

This is likely a town post btw.

pedit: I've used the vote counter before, it would attempt to match my vote to a player.

[beeboy]

So Mulch sent me my role PM in a spoiler tag, and I decided not to open it. I'm probably town, but just in case, can the scum tell me their names so I know not to lynch them until I open the box?

o/

[beeboy]

Mafia Gunner
You control the account “Mafia Gunner” that’s in the game. It can’t be lynched, or targeted. It counts for parity, can vote, and during the first 5 minutes of every day can take a 20% dayvig at someone. It will be announced who it is shooting at. It will be announced during the start of the game that mafia have this role and it counts for parity and can’t be voted or targeted. You can vote with it twice per day- just let me know. If you die, it dies.

Town Gunner
You control the account “Town Gunner” that’s in the game. It can’t be lynched, or targeted. It counts for parity, can vote, and during the first 5 minutes of every day can take a 20% dayvig at someone. It will be announced who it is shooting at. It will be announced during the start of the game that a towns person has this role and it counts for parity and can’t be voted or targeted. You can vote with it twice per day- just let me know. If you die, it dies.

So these are the gunner role pms when amrock last modded this game.

[beeboy]

If the same mechanics hold I think that the town gunner shouldn't ever actually vote, since the Gunner is the most valuable townie.
Also they should probably just shoot leading wagons.

[beeboy]

GreyICE is probably town as well.

[beeboy]

Why can you guys just quote the section you are replying to instead of the entire wall

[beeboy]

VOTE: yrsjwnfhhnyjszfrt msfhyztbnuxcm rjcxjsfthynjucb x

[beeboy]

Mulch's post says nothing about just mashing buttons on your keyboard to vote at random being illegal.

[beeboy]

VOTE: wolf

[beeboy]

WE CAUGHT ONE CREATURE

[beeboy]

I think Ausuka's Brian push comes from town.

Come vote scum with me please.

[beeboy]

Hype!

[beeboy]

The votecounter abusal was funny at first, but now it's just getting silly.

I am voting a scum wolf so I fail to see what I am doing wrong.

[beeboy]

Do you agree with the post or? Why is it towny?

The post read as a townie who had a feeling about something while reading Cetipede's posts rather then a scum faking a read early.

[beeboy]

Sorry, didn't read that whole mess. I skimmed enough to find out it was a mess tho.

I'm going here:

VOTE: Mafia Gunner

This is fake.

VOTE: Quick

[beeboy]

Sheep me Elli reeeeeeeeeeeee

[beeboy]

@ Bee

Why are you attempting to vote ppl not in the game?

It's fun to see where it gets redirected.

[beeboy]

this game is annoying. I'm just going to lurk until all the trolls are dead.

Not a bad idea actually.

I mean what exactly are you doing?

[beeboy]

this game is annoying. I'm just going to lurk until all the trolls are dead.

Not a bad idea actually.

I mean what exactly are you doing?

Waiting through bull shit mostly, why?

I mean was your opening post trolling?

[beeboy]

actually this is probably relevant

bee what were mulch's anticlaimmechs on mu

some amount of extra kills? idr.

I'd have to check Mulch's other games I didn't join or can't remember in the last 2 games I played the game was just designed so claiming was really bad, not a literal anti-claim mechanic.

On MU the general standards are either "quote someones claim and kill them" or "If you successfully guess a players role kill them". I don't really know what Mulch prefers.

[beeboy]

Not at all. I'm not reading through that shit.

I mean whats the reason for your vote then?
And why are you choosing to just ignore all this games content and just complaining about the lack of it.

[beeboy]

You saw me do the exact same thing before when I was Town so I'm really not sure why you have a problem with it???

I voted who I thought was the "leader" of the Scum faction.

Yeah see this is bullshit.

[beeboy]

I don't think quick is stupid enough to believe he is the only one who thought we should be voting confirmed scum.
Also I did the exact same vote post 6.

[beeboy]

I still don't think Quick is actually doing anything in these last 2 pages.
Creature sheep me please.

[beeboy]

All I'm doing is pointing out that the votes on me have zero substance. Why do you think that is defensive? You must think it's automatically Scummy to defend yourself. News flash: it isn't

This is kinda bullshit?

[beeboy]

@beeboy

does anticlaim mechs usually get unlimited shots
or n shots

X-shot factional ability.
Or X-shot role.

I've never seen it be limitless.

[beeboy]

I keep asking you why what I am posting is Bullshit and you keep NOT explaining that.

I still don't think Quick is actually doing anything in these last 2 pages.
Creature sheep me please.

I don't think quick is stupid enough to believe he is the only one who thought we should be voting confirmed scum.
Also I did the exact same vote post 6.

I literally said in thread, your complaining about a lack of content while not adding any yourself.
Your just defending yourself and complaining here. You aren't analyzing posts or actually doing anything.


So for 1, I think you'd be confused why no one is voting mafia gunner if you think it is possible, and then realize you can't do it.
And also if you read the game you'd see I tried to do it post 6.

[beeboy]

Tor I caught a wolf
help

[beeboy]

Tor I caught a wolf
help

tell me about it

also you're probably a villager

I don't really like how he opened the game on page 6 with a troll vote.
Later in the same page complains the game has no content, which I heavily disagree with but like I don't really like how he just make a troll vote then complains about a lack of content without actually doing anything himself.
Also his reaction to the push feels more like him complaining then him actually try to sort or do anything which is really scummy.

And later says he is serious with his troll vote.
Which is the same troll vote I did in my opening post so I have trouble with him not seeing it.

I also don't think a Villager wouldn't question no one voting confirmed scum if he thought it was possible which should 99% of the time result in him realizing it wasn't possible.

Like I think he either would have logically checked why no one was voting mafia gunner or he would have seen my vote because I doubt he gave up reading the game in the first 10 posts. Maybe ignorance is possible for one of these but not both.

[beeboy]

Like this post for example is probably the closest thing to content I have seen itt. That happened because I defended myself. So yes, I am producing content.

I refuse to believe you think your helping the game state right now if you aren't actually trying to sort anyone push you.

[beeboy]

does it count if used on fakeclaim and fails or n-successes

bee

This varies.

[beeboy]

What do you mean "logically checked?" Just because other people are not doing it doesn't mean that it shouldn't be done. Like I said, I got no info that I could not vote for Mafia Gunner. Because other people assume otherwise doesn't make it so.

I don't think a town would be "we should lynch mafia gunner oh whatever no one is doing it I guess I am just smarter then everyone else".
Rather then go "oh I wonder why no one is voting mafia gunner it's the clear cut decision"

Like when town do things they tend to think about it.


Not to mention I also placed a vote on mafia gunner which failed, well before I believe you would stop reading the game.

[beeboy]

As far as I can see, I am just experimenting with voting Mafia Gunner because I really have no idea what their function is.

This
is
fake
as
I
did
it
post
6

[beeboy]

Quick thinks by being wagoned he is generating content.
But he did absolutely nothing to actually read the people pushing him.


Pls vote obvious scum ty.

[beeboy]

VOTE: Mafia

Sheep me please.

Mafia Gunner(1) ~ Beeboy(1) ***invalid vote, cannot be voted***

awww I was hoping my vote would redirect to a player.

I refuse to believe you didn't get to this stage of the game.

[beeboy]

Why not? What you are talking about is sheep mentality. People are usually too stupid with group think to do things themselves.

So you thought that there is confirmed scum in the game.
and your the only one who thought to vote them.

[beeboy]

Quick did a really shit attempt at fake town slipping by not knowing the mafia gunner can't be voted.
and it failed miserably because it doesn't make any sense with any logical thought process.

[beeboy]

Why is that? Pretty sure I made it clear in my first post I didn't read the beginning of the game.

so on the 3rd post of the game (i checked this) you decided the game wasn't worth reading?

[beeboy]

I thought your mafia gunner vote was fake.
Which is exactly what I am arguing.

I haven't changed what I am arguing, you just haven't actually addressed it at all.

[beeboy]

Why do you think I am trying to Town slip?

I am not answering this.

[beeboy]

No, I saw your vote. I voted for "Mafia Gunner" tho and not just "Mafia."

So you did read the start of the game?
Because you said you didn't earlier on this page.

Also you have 100% seen a vote that isn't a full name.

[beeboy]

Too shitty to be a serious attempt

No it's just the way I am approaching my push on him.

[beeboy]

If you didn't see me say Quick didn't read the start of the game 6 times.
With Quick replying to many of the posts where I make this statement.

Only for him to say he didn't read the start of the game after I brought up quotes to push him with more evidence.

Then I am not sure how you can think he just isn't making shit up on the spot.

[beeboy]

Am I supposed to care?

[beeboy]

Am I supposed to care?

You should if you are actually trying to sort me.

I don't think saying the word villager makes you town, darn sorry.

[beeboy]

I mean I am going to take a break.
I just don't think voting mafia gunner like that occurs if someone puts any amount of thought into the game.

Also his argument he read none of the game and doesn't know what voting someone using part of there name looks like is kinda shit.
Him complaining about no content while not reading the game or trying to produce content is also shit.

And that he only chose to say he didn't read the start of the game after I brought up quotes is also shit.


But whatever I am wasting too much time here.

[beeboy]

I find your insistence that I am Scum without reevaluating me bad play or Scummy.

I think you've had no consistent story on your thought process and I have been pointing that out as we are going.
If you think I am not evaluating then I you aren't really reading the questions I am asking you.

[beeboy]

without thinking it was weird that nobody else was voting it/talking about it Quick?

I think this is the part Spiffeh thinks your avoiding.

[beeboy]

UNVOTE:

I'll just sheep Tor on this for now but I would like a reply to the last post.

[beeboy]

without thinking it was weird that nobody else was voting it/talking about it Quick?

I think this is the part Spiffeh thinks your avoiding.

[beeboy]

without thinking it was weird that nobody else was voting it/talking about it Quick?

I think this is the part Spiffeh thinks your avoiding.

[beeboy]

Why not? What you are talking about is sheep mentality. People are usually too stupid with group think to do things themselves.

I don't really think this would apply to you not caring about no one voting conf scum.
But whatever, read mechanics posts or the game if you town next time.

[beeboy]

awww I was hoping my vote would redirect to a player.

Why would you think this would happen?

Excellent question.

Your fucking awful at this game.

[beeboy]

I have an exam today so I am just not going to post. (maybe when I am on the bus)
But I saw Elli was a leading wagon so I just wanted to come in to call him a shitter.

[beeboy]

I town read Quick now, ty Tor for asking me to back off.

I think I am leaning towards hopkirk I didnt overly like his vote on Elli

[beeboy]

It is kinda a gut feeling I get based on a combination of the timing and how it was presented idk

[beeboy]

Brian isnt an awful vote either.
Tbh I have a few SRs atm.

[beeboy]

MARIAR ARE WE TOWN TOGETHER FOR ONCE

[beeboy]

I town read Quick now, ty Tor for asking me to back off.

I think I am leaning towards hopkirk I didnt overly like his vote on Elli

ISO tchill and let's finish the gameday

Sure, what are your thoughts on Nero atm?

[beeboy]

VOTE: Tchill

[beeboy]

Gun to head Gork and Maria is TvT

[beeboy]

I think I agree with the bins read.

Creature who do you think is scum atm?

[beeboy]

I havent overly slept in the last 72 hours so I am not overly up for this game.

[beeboy]

VLA

[beeboy]

Someone unvote pls.

[beeboy]

Someone unvote pls.

Someone unvote pls.

Someone unvote pls.

[beeboy]

I have an exam tomorrow do I have to try?
I can do it tomorrow at like roughly 2pm

[beeboy]

If I don't start trying by tomorrow night lynch me.

[beeboy]

I pm'd mulch saying I was VLA he never publicly declared it though (and my vla post was kinda unclear)

[beeboy]

Like I am fine with Claire being lynched.
I just don't want the day to end before I can read it.

[beeboy]

From what I remember Gork is town on a Maria scum flip.
Otherwise he is probably still town anyway.

Pano I always thought was town so it's good Elli sees that.

[beeboy]

tfw doxxing maria oops.

[beeboy]

Elli what is your read on Thor?
I don't think I'll be able to read him for shit this game.

[beeboy]

paragon title + skynet and your still useless.
wtf.

[beeboy]

/dab

[beeboy]

It's a Shad! O:

[beeboy]

Always Town Now that Maria Flipped
Gorkington
Elli/Chara

Usually Town
Bins
Ausuka


So I think Maria's push on Gork + the aggressive 180 pretty much never happens on a scum buddy, I don't really see Maria trying to distance like that.
Elli/Chara never hard bus I think that literally goes against how both of them play as scum so I am pretty sure they are town here. Like Elli's scum play is just hope town kills themselves, when forced to make content he mislynches 1 more town then instantly dies as a result.
And I don't think Chara has the confidence in her scum game to bus Maria and hope to go deep as a result.

I think Bins and Ausuka are more likely to be town due to the really half assed push that Maria made on the 2 of them.


I kinda want to reread people's ISOs now and see how people interacted with Maria since I am only really basing this on memory and reading Claire's ISO.

[beeboy]

I haven't read 50% of this game and I don't really want to read 60 pages in all honesty.

Town
1. randomidget
3. Beeboy
5. Bins
6. Ausuka
7. CheekyTeeky
9. Shad
10. Gorkington
11. GreyICE
12. Panopticon (Varsoon and Tn5421)
15. Spiffeh
18. Creature
19. Centipede Syndrome (Ellibereth+Chara)


The Rest
4. Thor665
16. Brigand Vvulf
21. Nero Cain
- Would Vote
8. Hopkirk
13. The Worst
14. Srceenplay
17. Tchill13
20. Brian Skies


I feel like I am doing something wrong right now.

[beeboy]

I assume people are going to be opposed to my GreyICE read.
But I am not really sure I just town read him? I think his not reading his role pm is 100% a gimmick and I don't really feel like that's a scum gimmick. The thing is when playing a scum game offsite I once said I wasn't going to open my scum PT anymore and try and forget who my scum buddies were and Mulch literally went out of his way to contact me to say that wasn't allowed. And that doesn't really strike me as a gimmick.


Also I am pretty sure this is a town post especially the first part of it.

Happy scum is dead. Sad more people are fucking taking it as an excuse that not giving reasons is pro-town. Bad play remains godawful.

Vote: Screenplay

How is anyone voting Bins after this post?

can't tell if i wanna vote bins more cause she's easier to lynch or a stronger scumread then gork
but regardless
VOTE: bins

That's like a free pass to day 5 at the earliest.

[beeboy]

I townread your entire would vote pool to varying degrees. Are your lists in order?
Why town Pan?

When I read Pan's posts I get a really strong feeling that they are actually trying to solve the game rather then just make shit up and go through motions in a way that really strikes me as genuine?
Maybe I should be focusing more on there actual conclusions and reads but I am not sure I am pretty comfortable with calling them town for now.


This is by no means an ordered read list. I just copied the playerlist and moved them into 3 pools.

[beeboy]

Town
9. Shad

This better be based on my slot's old inhabitant and not something I've done in this game already lol

Ye I thought Quick was town. Pretty sure no one is going to be basing reads off your posts for awhile.

[beeboy]

Ye I thought Quick was town.

I changed my read on review, I felt like he was really stubborn town.
Around the time that Toranaga told me to reevaluate.

It really felt a lot like the last time I 1v1'd Quick which happened the last time I played with him and I got all the same feelings out of his posts.

[beeboy]

Tbh I think I took really similar issues with his posts last time we played together as well lol.

[beeboy]

Shad how much of the game have you read?

[beeboy]

I am triggered af tn made shad want to leave.

[beeboy]

p r o d g e

[beeboy]

My post had plenty of content.

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

[beeboy]

Sorry I'll check this game tomorrow.
I am going to bed now.

I don't think lynching me is optimal for ~reasons~ I'd rather say later.

Tbh Mulch not being on site killed my motivation to play this game. I joined this game because I like Mulch as a mod not for the playerlist, like I respect his decision but I am kinda sad he is gone.

[beeboy]

Errr I am just gonna come out and claim that I shot Maria.

[beeboy]

Right now I'd lynch Brian Skiies based on like gut alone but I haven't been keeping up with the game.
I could probably make a POE and see where that leads me to.

Sorry for being disengaged this game I prolly shouldn't just fuck over the town cause Mulch isn't the mod anymore.

[beeboy]

I didn't shoot Cheeky?

[beeboy]

Also why would scum have both a Mafia Gunner and a 1-shot Day vig.
I kinda think that would be overwhelming given the mafia gunner is more valuable to the mafia then the town gunner is valuable to the town.

[beeboy]

I might be wrong on Panto but I am still leaning towards Brian Skiies right now.
I need to reeval Cheeky but I recall her slot being town same goes for bins.

[beeboy]

nvm

[beeboy]

I don't get it.

[beeboy]

This is very important for my role. Everyone please answer.
What's the weather like for you today?

[beeboy]

I am not fucking around btw.

[beeboy]

I am a JOAT and like I have a really kinky ability that works when people say what there weather is like when quoting one of my posts.

[beeboy]

[beeboy]