Gunner Mafia [Endgame]

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hi

wow

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hi

wow

Hi, for some reason votes on "scum" and "wolf" redirects to you.

what

that's rude

i haven't read anything

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there is about a 0% chance i keep up if y’all continue at this speed so i consider checking urself and considering if your posts are worth it

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VOTE: Quick

lynch the poster who makes it hard to read yaya

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VOTE: Brian skies

i lied i can buy the entry

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wait can mafia gunner quickhammer?


i don’t really know the setup stuff

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elli/chara could be scum.
i dont particularly want to go there unless im confident about it/i have a big townpile.

i could see this

seems like classic scum shitposting i tend to do

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quick is 17% of posts this game

i could die


gorko imma just sheep u ok until i “catch up”

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Is it weird that I kinda want to claim at this point? I'm not going to, but i want to.

this is kind of silly considering you’re VT
what was the goal here

also i’m not sure what the whole story is but your iso seems to show that the “claim” shenanigans dragged on for a while


i had more to say but i’m phoneposting and i forgot

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ok
i see that

stuff after with the “maybe i am maybe i’m not” was weird but i get the villager claim thing

that’s fine i’ll move on
but embrace the scumreads,
there was likely annoying scum pushing on you

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quick do you think scum is still voting you?
tell me how you feel about hop screen and pan and which you think is the scumbutt

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speedy

lmfao grey you're joking about the role PM thing right

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@hop - I didn't really read the vote progression on the wagon because I didn't read the first 30 pages but I don't think I like Pano
@creature - u can talk to me yknow I am friendly


pedit - i'm sorry grey but not reading your role PM and posting has gotten people forced replaced before. it's breaking rule #7 right there that you must play to your wincon and if you don't know your role and youre posting well

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No GI I’m p. sure playing without knowledge of your alignment is against the rules (the “play to win” one specifically) so you should probs rectify that

exactly


also the fact grey was like "I want to lynch Quick cause spam" when
if you haven't read your role PM all your posts rn have been useless to the game and you are just wasting space and my time
so u are spam

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As I said Bins, the moderator has no problem with me. If he required me to read my role PM then I would - moderators are free to set requirements above and beyond the site rules. For instance there are no site rules requiring certain activity levels in game, yet most moderators have some minimum level of posting required. Some moderators set limitations on the maximum number of posts required. Some moderators set deadlines for days, some moderators require you to follow post restrictions. None of this involves site rules.

As you are not the moderator, and you are not the site admins, maybe you should be playing mafia, hmmm? It's what I'm doing.

ok

so you're joking, cool

well at least this makes me townread u
don't be mean about it

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VOTE: Centipede

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Oh you're Varsoon and TN :O

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Out of the ISOs I've read, Centipede's is the worst
also I don't have a reason to vote Brian

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6. Rolecards do not have role names or win conditions. This game is villagers versus wolves.
The villager win condition is: You win if you eliminate all non- villagers.

wait now I just straight up don't get the VT not villager claim thing Quick

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maria can be scum.

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I don't see how you can claim to have read the past few pages and slot gork/me as your scumreads

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6. Rolecards do not have role names or win conditions. This game is villagers versus wolves.
The villager win condition is: You win if you eliminate all non- villagers.

wait now I just straight up don't get the VT not villager claim thing Quick

I cleared this up later... I said I could be SK.

And yas, there is an anti-claiming mech in the game.

the heck this mean

ur iso is hard to parse but i'm getting that you claimed villager because you thought scum wouldn't know
but its in the rules that its villagers and this had been quoted in the game by someone so

what is this SK thing

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is it bad i wanna tr nero just cause i think he's whining too much to be scum
also can we vote bins let's vote bins she's scum

you have a reason there or u just feeling like you wanna throw that out there to see if it actually sticks

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is it bad i wanna tr nero just cause i think he's whining too much to be scum
also can we vote bins let's vote bins she's scum

you have a reason there or u just feeling like you wanna throw that out there to see if it actually sticks

your iso is full of filler and sheeping popular opinions and you feel nothing like team mafia.

this game is nothing like team mafia and why would I wanna emulate team mafia considering I threw it
I was trying to go tryhard and I just ended up second guessing my gut a lot

i dont think my reads follow popular opinion at all
the fact im voting the biggest wagon is also not something you can call out as bad unless you didnt like my vote, but i had expressed dislike in centipede before they even had two votes

i also havent read and stated clearly im just going to be parroting stuff i agree with
but i dont think people are in "majority" in agreeance with me idont think ive really discussed enough for you to get that feel

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also there have been a lot of townreads thrown out that have been like "uh why"

beeboy townreads being one



I'm not really scumreading Maria but it would have been nice if I was

pedit - I don't see why I'm not allowed to say I don't think Maria's assessment is accurate? she's essentially calling me a sheep which is not necessarily a bad thing and something I tend to get called out for a lot near the start of games. I also do have some original reads and I came in here saying I liked Quick's entrance and I think GreyIce is town and she's telling me I'm following popular opinion lol

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Every single one of your votes has been on popular wagons and timing that makes me go :think: nor do you look genuine I was already scumreading you a bit before and this is just helping but hey as I said with gork if you wanna just call me scum go ahead the questions you ask have no follow up and you seem like you're posting just to post.

aaaand I'm board again

would you rather I push unpopular wagons I don't truly believe in and have them go nowhere

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Fair point. Do you believe all the popular wagons are scum atm or better yet can you give a few sentences on why you sr the people you do rather then just "I can do this" and place down a vote

I'm scumreading Centipede for similar reasons I think to you scumreading me which is I don't feel like their posting is genuine and it's fairly empty and similar to how I like to feign importance and interest in the game as scum

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I'm not really scumreading Brian or Hopkirk or Quick

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I don't know how to feel about wagons growing and then disappearing this quickly. Can town please be more town and stop jumping around like crazy and wait to even get a proper reaction, thx.

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CREATURE, I GUESS

it's ok I forgive you

I don't get the Centipede comment

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Why am I being voted?

your three posts instill ginormous feelings of scumbuttness


but really I have no idea

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Yeah Bins' continued focus on Quick's claim seems like busy work and I take back the read I had on her FROM MY HEART

HOW COULD YOU BETRAY IT BINS???

what i do

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hello it is bins behind 10 pages again

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I'm not sure if I vote maria or vote ausuka with maria

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VOTE: Ausuka

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im actually starting to feel slightly better about pano? i think

idk

i dont have a good enough reason to fight that, but if it's been tn i actually get decent vibes rereading their ISO

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TOWN
19. Centipede Syndrome (Ellibereth+Chara)
18. Creature
9. Quick
10. Gorkington
3. Beeboy
1. randomidget
8. Hopkirk
5. Bins
21. Nero Cain
7. CheekyTeeky

SCUM
2. MariaR

PEOPLE LEFT
4. Thor665
6. Ausuka
11. GreyICE
12. Panopticon (Varsoon and Tn5421)
13. The Worst
14. Srceenplay
15. Spiffeh
16. Brigand Vvulf
17. Tchill13
20. Brian Skies

we're getting there

tbf i sort of agree with this but i think grey and panopticon are town
brian is also ok? i think
i need explaining on beeboy and i dont really have a read on random and cheeky

also i dont know if maria is scum
i feel like im just gonna mislynch again ahahhaeh

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but lynch that ausuka iso am i right

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im like 66.7% sure ausuka is scum

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u know its a joke right

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quick is 23.4% capable of understanding a joke

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how about you address my scumread on ausuka rather than getting hung up about how i said it
i dont like something i said thats game relevant being dismissed because hey im finally contributing

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u know its a joke right

boo get off the stage

ur getting older and yet u have nothing to show for it

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wow this game just got 99.999999% stupid

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SEE UR SIG

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i wonder if im the 0.000001%
(:

no

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this feels like c9++ townbins.

i dont even remember that far back

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wtf wasnt myko scum


wowowowowowowoowowwowow.

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how about you address my scumread on ausuka rather than getting hung up about how i said it

This makes no sense considering that you literally just made a blank read.

blank like


YOUR ISO


and great you literally come in and say "scum in the two people voting me"

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Am I wrong?

uh

well youre at least 50% wrong

but maria isnt really pushing you with force either and it doesnt really look motivated by scum

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I've been fairly lynchbaity this game.

that isnt a fun defence

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im cute and cuddly

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Pan/Grey/MariaR/Bins/The worst/Tchill.

STOP NAMING PEOPLE IM SLOTTING AS LYNCHBAIT TOWN

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i think greyice is town 99%
i think pan is town 60%
i think maria is town 70%
i think tchill is town 51%
i think the worst hasnt been in this game that ive seen ? who is this

also i am town 100%


do u like my numbers @ quick

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I'm really townreading the "I didn't read my PM GO TO THE MOD IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM I'M FINE TO BREAK THE RULES" thing.

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Uh, cause I don't see scum doing that? Not even for the sake of looking town.

I don't know what you mean as "just Grey". I'm seeing a lot of just Grey but I'm also seeing a lot of stuff I couldn't see coming from scum.

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VOTE: the worst

do i think screen is scum? nah



also tn i can bownread u EVEN IF U ODNT LIKE IT

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tfw id hop on the slip lol sue me

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VOTE: tchill


hello it is bins the opposer

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theres actually another really obvious reason that her crumb is probably bullshit.

is this you executing you 0.000001% intelligence


cause i dont see it

but i also dont like early softs either so meh

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i wanna also bet on thor's tchill vote so lets do this


worst and ausuka both responded in ways that were satisfying to me as them being just lazy town rather than avoidant scum but then cant be let of THAT EASY

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no

i dont even townread him that much but i like his vote so i sheep it


also i hate literally every other wagon
the next best one is maria but i really dont think i want to vote that

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VOTE: Panoptican

Serious vote. We're lynching here today.

VOTE: panoptican

tho i will say tchill isnt scum with hopkirk

i would also vote hopkirk

i think one of these votes on panoptican is scum

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u



(-:

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I think Bins is town again

help me out with this one, Spiff? i'm scumreading Bins for tone + Maria association + wagon choices from her, but i scumread Bins in team mafia too so i'm not sure how much i can trust my read.
~Chara

you think maria and i are scum together?




did you even read our interaction

she might be scum but im feeling like she's more similar to team mafia (she pinged my gut like crazy in that but i was wrong). her interaction with me was actually similar and made me town but the claim thing is still weird i guess

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It's a fact that if I'm town from your pov I'm the easiest lynch to get pushed through today. If a wagon on another townie gains traction there is no reason to come back to me. If a wagon on scum gets traction there's a ton of reason to come back to me.

Grey didn't vote Maria or pan. Grey voted me.

If one of those players flip scum then there's an association link there.

I'd bet a lot that one of Maria or pan is scum and I wouldn't be surprised if Grey was scum with either.

lol

but i bet even if maria or pan flips town you'd still go for grey right

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lmfao rando doesnt have 188 and i totally thought he did id just missed the beginning of the game

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The PR claim should be read as NAI.

duude

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slots i would look at today for lynching

1. randomidget
2. MariaR
3. Beeboy
4. Thor665
5. Bins
6. Ausuka
7. CheekyTeeky
8. Hopkirk
9. Quick
10. Gorkington
11. GreyICE
12. Panopticon (Varsoon and Tn5421)
13. The Worst
14. Srceenplay
15. Spiffeh
16. Brigand Vvulf
17. Tchill13
18. Creature
19. Centipede Syndrome (Ellibereth+Chara)
20. Brian Skies
21. Nero Cain

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l o l i d i d n o t k n o w a b o u t t h e r e p l a c e m e n t

rando is also a good lynch tbh ya

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randomidget first? Eww

the fact you think that is my actual order insults me as a player

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And you dropping the playerlist as a lynchlist isn't supposed to insult us?

considering im on it do you not realize its a joke

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You guys need to realize that interacting with Quick is useless

Believe it or not (even though you were defending me earlier) I have not actually shit posted much this game so I am allowing this one.



And guess what? bins ISO is 10X worse than mine.

NUMBERS


SCUMTELL


GUYS LOOK

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actual lynch list in no order:
1. randomidget
2. MariaR
7. CheekyTeeky
8. Hopkirk
9. Quick
17. Tchill13
19. Centipede Syndrome (Ellibereth+Chara)

just because it's gork he may sway me on pano but id rather get more info here idk
i think ive definitely eliminated a scumboi in my list but thats fine for now

pedit - my response to creature was about him insinuating i actually want to lynch myself #5 so he obviously didnt even read my post

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youre a day lie detector?

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i'd vote Cheeky

or mad Hopkirk man

if that's any counter for you

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Ausuka Bins Cheeky (most likely) and last idk in the people I'm not tring

also you're essentially saying your wagon is towndriven

who is scum on your wagon

(cheeky is on it now, i know)

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best thing for a lie detector do to might be to check something like

"there is no scum in :
-/-"

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didnt realize it worked like that


I am aligned with the village

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especially because there's other wagons

this isn't the only person needing flipping

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actual lynch list in no order:
1. randomidget
2. MariaR
7. CheekyTeeky
8. Hopkirk
9. Quick
17. Tchill13
19. Centipede Syndrome (Ellibereth+Chara)

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she claimed lie detector fairly early

or softed it, whatever

I think we can afford to let her live another day

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also maria i'd prefer if you check my post if you're going to look for my lynch tomorrow

I think I'm mislynchable and would rather just be conftown : ^ )

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yeah that was also a possibility I guess

to answer your question @worst - yes I think there's bussing, most likely at the end of the wagon
not from centipede ofc so that's off the list

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Are you serious? I said Maria was scum because the wagon went from me to Maria back to me lol.

: ^ ) what a easy read to make on a partner

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hop's reaction to claim was town, idk if I want to stay on chill or go elsewhere

we'll see

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gork and ausuka are town, same with centi

pretty informative flip I think

let Tchi post more imo 1st post is Nai 2nd is bad 3rd is meh.

Aus/Bins/Gork

are the 3 I feel like lynching others are null or tr's

Gork is town.

Scum's going to nightkill them anyway because for some reason everyone and there mom are scared of CS

3. Beeboy
10. Gorkington
11. GreyICE
15. Spiffeh
17. Tchill13
19. Centipede Syndrome (Ellibereth+Chara)
21. Nero Cain

^people I TR

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The only independent scum read I have rn us ausuka.

VOTE: maria

he's genuinely scumreading ausuka who is also the same person maria is pushing ???

fishy

tchill how is the ausuka read now given the maria flip

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I can't help but feel like this is all a set up.

like what? lol

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probably just going to sheep centi : ^ )

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also i keep wanting to scumread Bins even though i just told myself if she's Maria's partner she's done too bad a job of hiding it.

also, just like, ISO maria


I'm not that bad at scum too : (

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I could probably do screen, hm

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Bringand your case hasn't helped me townread grey one bit but I think I love him now

hahah


I basically just

+1 vvulf post

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Hopkirk, I don't understand why/how you're making a pool with me, Bins, and Maria.
Like
I'm not even aware Bins is in this fucking game
What

-obserVed

dude




but seriously hop
maria and i aren’t scum together

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nah

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someone claimed a guilty on maria?

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Well...Centipede was the guilty call on MariaR...

what...


seriously
someone claimed a guilty?!?

why can’t i find it...
centi didn’t uh

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There was no guilty on Maria

People stupidly kept referring to Elli's read on Maria as a guilty, but there was no actual guilty

lol ok good

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How much of the thread are you skipping?

lots

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I've iso'd a huge amount of people. one of them being Centi

never took it as a guilty

missed the beginning of the game mostly but I've been pretty up to date now

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I kinda hope Pan flips town so I can laugh at you guys for letting Grey slip by. I guess if Pan flips scum then you guys get to do the opposite.

it's funny cause both are town


probably more likely Pan scum then Grey, i'd say

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VOTE: screen

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its RESPECT

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he's not 99% town, he's just one of my bigger townreads because of his stances and because of the entry stuff

I also do not get Nero's reasons at all and don't think they are worth sheeping and ignoring my scumreads

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seriously a

"wow town is so dumb for not following grey is so scum lemme laugh at you guys"

is an awful wagon

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I don't trust you either


: )

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Can we stop doing this thing where people apparently somewhat suspect me without explaining why or trying to engage me about it because I don’t feel like dealing with suddenly getting wagoned later on when it’s likely that most people that feel I’m town will be dead

says you mr. “bins losing my trust”



also sure gork but after my exam tmmr

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UNVOTE:

holy shit guys, my town (toronto) just had a van going berserk on pedestrians on the sidewalk. major roads closed, i dont know when ill be able to get home, or how. so im here to play some mafia guys

: ( hope everything is ok
cant believe something like that happened 4 hours from me

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HMMMMM

maybe tchill is still scum

dk

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also hop I told you to iso maria (and I guess me at the same time)
I cant convince you that our interactions are TvS and not SvS but I think its pretty clear

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hey random wanna move your vote

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aaHHH I don't have the time to make a town case

but just trust in the fact that I don't see scum motivation behind grey ice's actions
but I'm not going to stop the lynch if we need to reach a majority at deadline,
I would much rather prefer screen tho

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pretty chill

I got a tummy ache tho

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5hours???

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wait was it hammered someone check

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two more votes pls :/

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Ok, greyice it is.

yeah that's funny

you have to vote screen or we're no lynching at this rate

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Elli you are acting real dense.
I wonder how Maria died?

elli is dense?

this is like

fake confusion, right?

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hey screen wanna fullclaim cause you’re likely going bye bye

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alright the responsibility of srceen being lynched is entirely on him if he is town now!!!
im free from feeling responsible for anything yay!!!

weeeeeee

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lmfao this claim is so unbelievable

he has not been playing like the gunner
he was null on maria when she was shot

can we think please

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FIRST BLOOD HAS BEEN DRAWN

MariaR has died:

Spoiler: MariaR

--You are a

wolf

[redacted]
-Once per game, you can send me a link to a post someone made. I will tell you if it is a truth, a lie, or inconclusive.
-Once per game, you can show me a post where someone is claiming or CLEARLY hinting their role. To the best of my ability, if this is valid, or the part they are claiming is mostly/partly valid, they will die. This kill cannot be stopped in any way and will be marked as an anti claim kill. You cannot use this on a vanilla townie equivalent.
-Once per game, you can show me a post where someone is claiming or CLEARLY hinting their role. To the best of my ability, if this is valid, or the part they are claiming is mostly/partly valid, they will be vanillized. This vanillization cannot be stopped in any way, but they will be notified if they are vanillized. You cannot use this on a vanilla townie equivalent.

I’m around 20 pages behind.
Can someone just give me an iso homework?

screen wasted even posting around when maria was shot
there was no crumb
there was no logical read progression clear on maria
there was no reaction and acting like maria had even been shot

cmon

this is a fakeclaim

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please iso screen + mulch at the same time and see for yourself

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viewtopic.php?t=75915&f=3&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go


here
i did it for you


READ PEOPLE
HE IS NOT THE GUNNER

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you might not even get a CC cause deadline

i honestly don’t think vig is a huge loss for how scummy this claim is

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i’m so upset dammit


lynch screen mmmmmmmm

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screen now has more votes so


all y’all late comers do ur job

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: ^ )

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Welp. I was out of town. A little behind.

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How many more scum is it then?

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Yeah. I wonder how Mafia Gunner works? Is it an extra day kill? Why didnt they use it, etc.

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Sorry I should read before I spam useless questions

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I don't oppose it either but I also would like to look at stuff

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heck

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1. randomidget
3. Beeboy
7. CheekyTeeky
8. Hopkirk
9. Chickadee
11. GreyICE
12. Panopticon (Varsoon and Tn5421)
20. Brian Skies

I think the last 2 scum are in.

swap greyice with you and remove panopticon and you have a pretty good list, imo

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VOTE: Cheeky

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VOTE: Beeboy


wow i'm sold

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Oh okay, AP is scum.

You wish. Unless you think Chill would bus both his scummates like that. He was SRing both Aus & Maria. In fact, out of his last list of 3 here 3043 you're the only one I didn't include in my immediate lynch pool. Think I made a mistake there?

This is a weird defense.

Are you caught up in the game? Somehow you're very aware of your own slots play... seems like a scum thing. Like a Amished tell but BETTER.

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So you ISO'd all the scum slots?

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You paid more attention to your predecessors interactions with the scum than I would normally expect, but meh.

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?? Did I lose my touch on the opposite sex?

Sorry, I like girls.

But you're a little defensive and GreyIce is right.

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gork survives yet again!

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ur legs creep me out

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wow creature you still think im scum?

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I thought centi's vote was a joke, i'm very clearly not scum at this point

if maria's vote on me isn't enough, then I want you to look at my positioning and stance on the screenplay wagon, thanks

I don't really feel the need for a massclaim at all, and don't think its going to help the game state

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VOTE: Cheeky

choochoo

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nah but Screen was super unbelievable while Beeboy was actually there at the right times and said the right things

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Wait so I'm confused

Maria wasn't shot by the Town Gunner, Maria was shot by Beeboy who is something else

and Cheeky was shot by town Gunner

is this right?

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Also seriously Creature and Worst you have probably the worst votes I've ever seen and I would have 0 faith in you to solve this game so please get your head in it

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i mean the dayvig sort of works with the anticlaim mechanic? i guess

the formatting of the dayvigs were different
like maria's kill went through the others had to be "rolled"

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i'm not really confused, i'm just not caught up and more just surprised that there was actually a dayvig

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I'm not CCing anything btw

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the only thing I'm not sure about is cheeky believing the guilty so easily

idk if scum slip up THAT bad

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the centi "guilty" on maria, I mean

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woooo I did ok w my reads (minus Maria, but that doesn't matter so woo)

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hopefully next time i play with gork i won’t have to carry him so hard