Gunner Mafia [Endgame]

[CheekyTeeky]

This is likely a town post btw.

Do you agree with the post or? Why is it towny?

What's this C-initialphobia though?

You say whilst continuing the trend. Stop persecution of the Cs!

Pedit claim town potato. (Credit to TFL)

[CheekyTeeky]

Ill be here later

hi

We can't be friends anymore if you've rolled scum

[CheekyTeeky]

How much have you read Cheeky?

Catching up now on pg 2

[CheekyTeeky]

early reads are that creature is town, brian probably is too.

Agree with this. Ausuka can be an early town read.

[CheekyTeeky]

i am also town

I'd rather still not say what my alignment is.

You're right, this is a much better vote.

VOTE: Creature

~The Observer

Wtf VOTE: Pancettabot

[CheekyTeeky]

early reads are that creature is town, brian probably is too.

I think I'm being buddied.

Aw you drop back to null :/

Hi Cheeky

Hi Creature, how's life?

[CheekyTeeky]

You don't townread me on meta already?

Is this serious?

early reads are that creature is town, brian probably is too.

I think I'm being buddied.

was I wrong, Brian?

I'm town, I just don't think I've done anything worthy of a townread.

The way you're pushing back the "probs town" read is pinging me.

early reads are that creature is town, brian probably is too.

I think I'm being buddied.

was I wrong, Brian?

I'm town, I just don't think I've done anything worthy of a townread.

then why are you making remarks instead of voting me?

Should I be voting you?

if you scumread me, which you claim to, it follows you should be voting me.

Agree, could it be a playstyle thing though? Oh no you voted...

hopkirk reads town

grey why are you voting hopkirk

Worst town read so far. FoS you.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ew I want my time refunded for that last page. I'm up to date now.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Quick

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Quick

This vote is even more naked.

What's wrong with being naked?

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Quick

This vote is even more naked.

What's wrong with being naked?

Because then your vote is baseless.

The purpose clearly isn't, you seem over defensive poppins to me.

[CheekyTeeky]

early reads are that creature is town, brian probably is too.

I think I'm being buddied.

Aw you drop back to null :/

Hi Cheeky

Hi Creature, how's life?

but how did you have brian as town early?

His observation on the vote count seemed townie. Why are you questionning my early gut reads and taking reaction test jokes seriously?

[CheekyTeeky]

quick's ISO is fine and he is likely a villager

Biggest scum reads?

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok let's try VOTE: Brigand Vvulf

[CheekyTeeky]

I didn't really like your jokey 27. Seems uncharacteristic for you.

Can you list those trolls? Serious question.

this seems like a useless filler question and I don't see town asking this.

Quick Quick, give me three people you townread.
Also still interested in how you read the game like you said you did.

this felt like the kind of "throw gas on a fire" post that scum makes to fuel a wagon.

Nero can be town.
I was assuming I was in his 'trolling/joking' group and wondered why he didn't mention anything. Based on the one game I played with him, that's the impression I thought he had od me, even if it's not accurate. Not liking the joke explains well.

Should be easy to find town me opening with bad jokes.

Sleeping now then working.

I like that Hopkirk assessed the push but feels like he's placating Nero.

Hey Hop when you get back can you answer my question about if you were serious that CS should've townread you by page 3? And if so why?

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok let's try VOTE: Brigand Vvulf

why?

Why not? Is this going to be one of those games where you're going to question everything I do instead of letting me do my thing and assessing later?

[CheekyTeeky]

this is just a general statement about how I feel about MS play. In this game it could maybe fit for Creature and Quick.

and most of the Quick wagoners

that wagon is so bad I'm almost sure there's a couple of scum at least in it

like Srceenplay?

or cheeky, yes

Explain Tor. How is my vote onto the wagon scummy?

[CheekyTeeky]

this is just a general statement about how I feel about MS play. In this game it could maybe fit for Creature and Quick.

and most of the Quick wagoners

that wagon is so bad I'm almost sure there's a couple of scum at least in it

like Srceenplay?

or cheeky, yes

Explain Tor. How is my vote onto the wagon scummy?

I don't like you sheeping a bad read with poor reasoning on someone that's unlikely to be scum to begin with. are you wolfreading quick at all?

Are you even reading? Try again.

[CheekyTeeky]

Sorry for the massive quote...

[CheekyTeeky]

Sorry for the massive quote...

disagree with quick being over defensive if that was the whole reason for your vote

That's fine you can disagree. But I'm trying to point out that you're not being objective. You are pinged by me which seems to happen in every game we're in where we're not in a hydra, and you call out my vote as scummy when you clearly didn't even assess my intent in hopping on Quick. I am trying to sort players, jumping on quick when he felt I was defensive got further info for me and then a number of votes slid on after me with only Beeboy making any sense.

I'm getting frustrated because I want to work with you and I don't think this is how you approach me as scum, so you're probably just being derpy town.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm getting frustrated because I want to work with you and I don't think this is how you approach me as scum, so you're probably just being derpy town.

Have you played with Toranaga b4?

Um yes? Lol how would that make any sense if I hadn't?

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok sorry :/ I'll stop being needy. Just give me room to push others without questionning me or it ruins the purpose of them interacting with me.

[CheekyTeeky]

The only thing odd about Quick is that he's refusing to answer this very simple question:

How did you read it as 'this slot is confirmed scum' without thinking it was weird that nobody else was voting it/talking about it Quick?

but that's not really scummy?

Quick behaving weirdly and not being overly helpful isn't alignment indicative as far as I remember (although idk the last time I played with him)

And he continues to double down that he's doing nothing wrong despite the pressure which kinda reads more like stubborn town to me than scum

Oh, I didn't see that question by Hopkirk... To answer, what else could I conclude about the Mafia Gunner Slot?

Continuing to act defensive and not trying to read people who are referencing you is not helping your cause. What do you make of Spiffeh?

[CheekyTeeky]

News Flash: being defensive is not a Scum tell under general circumstances. Why are you asking your SR what they think of a Null slot?

Jfc. Who said I scum read you? Do you really have no opinion on Spiffeh you?

[CheekyTeeky]

News Flash: being defensive is not a Scum tell under general circumstances. Why are you asking your SR what they think of a Null slot?

Jfc. Who said I scum read you? Do you really have no opinion on Spiffeh defending you?

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok I'm all caught up

Brian Skies is easily the scummiest player in the game and should be wagoned/lynched

Why does 67 come from scum?

[CheekyTeeky]

nero could be scum

tor and bee seem town

Is that a meta read or?

[CheekyTeeky]

Also, given Alisae reviewed this game and Alisae admits to not giving a damn about balance, that's another reason why leaving the game early isn't a big deal to me.

Mastina reviewed the game also and I remember Mulch saying something like "thanks for helping balance the game"

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok I'm all caught up

Brian Skies is easily the scummiest player in the game and should be wagoned/lynched

Why does 67 come from scum?

You dodged.

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

I'm not getting into a conversation about how people use their votes differently when you seem to lack any kind of awareness in this game.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok I'm all caught up

Brian Skies is easily the scummiest player in the game and should be wagoned/lynched

Why does 67 come from scum?

asking questions that don't really go anywhere

asking questions without really looking for a meaningful answer

I don't see how that applies to the scenario. I don't see why scum would need to ask that question unless they were trying to town tell.

Pedit I just did quick.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok I'm all caught up

Brian Skies is easily the scummiest player in the game and should be wagoned/lynched

Why does 67 come from scum?

You dodged.

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

I'm not getting into a conversation about how people use their votes differently when you seem to lack any kind of awareness in this game.

I'm not asking that. I am asking if you are SRing me or not.

...this is exactly what I mean. You asked why I voted you and if you read my posts you see that I voted you to put pressure on you, when I thought you looked dodgy. Tbh I still don't know how I feel about you.

[CheekyTeeky]

Good idea actually. BBL.

[CheekyTeeky]

cheeky you still around?

What's up?

[CheekyTeeky]

cheeky you still around?

What's up?

IDK really

I wanna talk. I just finished work, and it's sunday, and every single second without someone holding me is a second I feel lonely as fuck

why am I like that?

also, IDK, I think you're town because you haven't been trying to appear towny if that makes sense. and I think my wolfread on screenplay is probably wrong now. and I want someone to bounce reads off of. I actually think... brian looks better than asuka in those early interactions. that townread came out of fucking nowhere, and then turning the knife on brian and shading him for thinking he was being buddied feels illogical and awkward.

gimme something.

Screenplay is pretty bad but I always think he's scum, so that's a slot I'll likely have to PoE down the line.

I've never really understood why putting out early reads is more likely to come from scum. Ausuka pushed out reads that I was vibing with at the start. I initially read them as town for seeing the things I was and I like that they were sorting early.

How did it feel awkward to you?

Brian I think looks worse, the way he approached the whole "I'm being buddied" felt weird af but he has posts that I don't understand coming from scum as I pointed out to Spiffeh.

I like Nero for town and don't like Vvulf at all.

[CheekyTeeky]

claimclaimclaimclaimclaimclaimclaimclaim

you're a wolf

VOTE: centipede syndrome

centipede has spent the entire game going through the motions, doing interactions that are meaningless and pushing pro-scum early claims because elli doesn't care, because elli isn't very likely a villager.

I liked one chara post way back then but that's being override by the many wolfy elli posts.

I can back this one XD

VOTE: Centipede

[CheekyTeeky]

though TBF Cheeky town reading me after death tunneling me in our last game kinda freaks me out. Would they really learn to read me in one game?

I death tunneled you day 2 when you effed up your claim...let it go geez.

[CheekyTeeky]

no you did not you were scum reading me d1 too.

I don't remember that. Sorry?

[CheekyTeeky]

@Cheeky:

In addendum to the above, why do you think me asking about parity is a towntell?

I was trying to be lowkey about a noob asking about their role, but looks like that's not the case here. I remember not knowing what parity was when I was a parity cop with Tor lol.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ausuka, how is it mean to scumread people? Assuming roles are randomly distributed, surely you have as much chance of drawing scum as I do (although slightly higher chance of knowing if you did). So is it mean to say "you were randomly selected for the scumteam?" Do you think that Mulch assigned scum preferentially to people he disliked? Or is this just an appeal to emotion?

Wtf is even this line of questioning?

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't really understand what you mean by willful misdirection, unless you think I'm insinuating multiball, to which I've already made a response regarding that here:

Yeah that felt like a stretch to me too. Nero goes down Brian goes up.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ausuka, how is it mean to scumread people? Assuming roles are randomly distributed, surely you have as much chance of drawing scum as I do (although slightly higher chance of knowing if you did). So is it mean to say "you were randomly selected for the scumteam?" Do you think that Mulch assigned scum preferentially to people he disliked? Or is this just an appeal to emotion?

Wtf is even this line of questioning?

indeed

cheeky, what do you think of greyice?

that feels SvS even. the grey/ausuka interaction.

Why SvS? Let me ISO him real quick.

[CheekyTeeky]

Well his ISO is garbage. Bad entrance but not sure if scummy bad. Ausuka push seems bandwagony seeing as hes contributed eff all and pop's in to interrogate one of the players under heavy suspicion in what feels like a disingenuous way. Contrary to Ausuka though he's not lacking tone.

Also in reading his ISO I think Hopkirk might be town this game. Check it out it's not long.

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah that felt like a stretch to me too. Nero goes down Brian goes up.

I swear to god you are an idiot.

Strong argument.

[CheekyTeeky]

greyice's ISO is trash but I feel like that first post isn't really something mafia writes?

I don't see how it makes sense as either alignment tbh.

[CheekyTeeky]

to give you an example, remember mathdino not knowing how to interact with other wolves when he was playing with our hydra? he was making posts like these to us. the amount of self awareness you're talking with a scumbro was out of this world.

I find the post wolfy regardless, and conditional reads like that normally fail, but it does ping me that way...

That's a good point actually

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm also starting to feel like CS could go in the too scummy to be scum basket.

[CheekyTeeky]

who is CS?

Centipede Scum, who we're voting. It might be SC lol.

[CheekyTeeky]

Um can you guys puts your dicks away and focus on reading hopkirk?

[CheekyTeeky]

Hopkirk-

83, 93, 99, 324 seem towny imo.

283 303 are better in ISO than when I read them in real time.

201 felt like a copy of Beeboy's case.
247 felt awkward.

Apart from Quick I don't understand the other votes there.

Yeah he does seem different in that he seems a bit looser, and has more pushes than just commenting like last game.

Tor why do you TR vvulf?

[CheekyTeeky]

Well, she is! "OMH Nero found something that contradicted the op and it made him @ Brian, but Brian had a good defense thus Nero is scummy." Like sorry, but your girlfriends logic is junk.

Says the guy who can't look below the surface of peoples posts. Gtfo.

[CheekyTeeky]

[CheekyTeeky]

Out of the ISOs I've read, Centipede's is the worst
also I don't have a reason to vote Brian

Which ISOs have you read and why did you choose those over others?

[CheekyTeeky]

maria can be scum.

Thinking this.

Gork what are your thoughts on Spiffeh?

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Grey

Hi

[CheekyTeeky]

So for Town I have:

Tora
Spiffeh
Creature
Brain
MariaR
And add these for tinfoil theory:
Aususka
Beeboy
Nero
Hop
Cheeky

Quick why has Beeboy dropped?

[CheekyTeeky]

It’d be funny if the anti-claiming mech is that Mulch told us there was an anti-claiming mech. The knowledge there’s an anti-claiming mech in of itself makes claiming dangerous.

I don't understand why you're speculating about this?

[CheekyTeeky]

this convo leads nowhere

I wasn't doing a balancing act, that's all I argued. you think creature farting itt is enough for a townread. f i n e. my lynch target is tchill anyway.

I wasn't trying to cast shade man. Trying to convince you who is Town is all.

Regardless of Tor's alignment...he knows. I'm just willfully antagonizing him on his bad reads. Not all that interested in the tchill or Screenplay scum reads he's pushing either.

Nero what are your thoughts on Thor pushing the Srceenplay read onto Tor?

[CheekyTeeky]

Thor do you scum read Hopkirk? 1157 feels like you're talking to town.

[CheekyTeeky]

Thor do you scum read Hopkirk? 1157 feels like you're talking to town.

I'm spending the entire post mocking him and denigrating his case on me.
If that's a town/town conversation to you then it's a town/town conversation - it is what it is and I said what I said.
I do scum read him - I'm voting him don't'cha know.

Why are you phrasing his actions as silly instead of scummy? Clearly you don't think silly and scummy are the same thing looking at your srceenplay and Quick reads.

[CheekyTeeky]

Lmfao Tor...he has 3 posts wtf? Why are you pushing this?

[CheekyTeeky]

Lmfao Tor...he has 3 posts wtf? Why are you pushing this?

also if you know me

and if you learned anything from that hydra game

you know lynching lowposters is something I very much enjoy d1 and also has a higher chance of catching wolf than otherwise. I literally couldn't care less that tchill didn't post enough. just strenghtens my wolfread on him.

What have you been able to wolf read? Have you played with him before? If this wagon went through then what would we learn from the flip?

[CheekyTeeky]

That's not what he said at all...@Grey

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok let's see if poppins.

VOTE: TChills

[CheekyTeeky]

That's not what he said at all...@Grey

Ah good, then. Since you have some sort of inside connection that lets you chat with Toranaga and tell me about his reads, what does this mean exactly?

For what reason do you want to convince me differently, Toranaga?

-ObserVed

I want a higher scum equity player getting lynched.

Because I think that's exactly what he said.

I think you're illiterate.

LOL I think he's scum. Definitely coming back for him.

[CheekyTeeky]

I disliked cheeky recent posting cause i think greys potatosy is pretty towny And dunno How she read it otherwise

How is he towny? It's the second line of interrogation that doesn't make sense and looks like busy work. Even if he did misunderstand the meaning of the word why the eff does saying x is a better scum player than y make any sense coming from scum in the context. He reads like awkward scum whenever he tries to push someone.

[CheekyTeeky]

Also since when is disagreeing with you scummy Tor?

[CheekyTeeky]

Bins it's noted that you haven't answered my question.

[CheekyTeeky]

Why am I being voted?

Read Tor's recent posts.

[CheekyTeeky]

I can assure you I'll never be scum caught off of 3 posts lol

How do you feel about CS now? Any other reads?

[CheekyTeeky]

I think Quick is town and srceenplay is scum, so am suspicious you're mixing up my reads there somewhat.

Yes I was pointing out that being silly isn't AI from your pushes.

I don't actually find his attack post particularly scummy outside of being full of bad logic, which is more a silly tell than a scumtell.
Do you find his post I'm mocking to be scummy?

No I don't find him that scummy, and don't understand mocking someone as a way to get an AI response. The way you've approached him reminds me of how you belittled my thoughts and spoke to me as town when we were SvT. Though the way you're taking interacting with me seriously eases that paranoia somewhat.

I don't - it could easily just be bad town being paranoid.
The rest of his iso is pretty suspect though, and his inability to move past an exceedingly minor push on him is inherently scummy regardless of how articulate his issue with my push is or is not.

I think you're being stubborn and there's better slots to push.

Comments in purple.

[CheekyTeeky]

I just see his type of very special behaviour as likely town. I don't have much else to say. I understand you're scumreading the guy independently of that interaction. I'm not, but I think that interaction we had puts him as more likely town than not. IDK. I expect you to catch up on that.

I really want you to be town too... I don't even care about this game if I'm not winning it with you rn. cause then I'm winning with the potato people.

I don't see it - it looks to me like him trying to distract from his awkward moment by fluff posting. I also don't appreciate the AtE here to strong arm your PoV instead of trying to see mine.

[CheekyTeeky]

Who do you think i should be better spending my time pressuring exactly? I can't even tell who you're pressuring unless it's me - and that's a waste of my time to join you on, so...?

Not Hopkirk.
Not my problem try reading my posts. Point taken about wagon jumping though...still I like my style ^^

[CheekyTeeky]

D,:

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Gork I find it defeats the purpose of a pressure vote if you call it a pressure vote imo.

@Chara how confident are you on your Ausuka SR and Grey TR? What do you think of the TChill wagon?

Pedit stop ninjaing me you mortals.

Pedit pedit fuck -_-

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm hungover :/ someone time travel and tell me it's a bad idea. Can't sleep.

Grey, thoughts on Tor?

Pedit Chara why are you ignoring me D:

[CheekyTeeky]

-_-' not in the mood Tor.

[CheekyTeeky]

......................

[CheekyTeeky]

This is where I'm up to:

{Creature, Beeboy, Gorkington}
{Thor, Spiffeh, Hopkirk, Brigand Vvolf, Brian Skies, Toranaga}
{Bins, Srceenplay, Quick, TheWorst}
{Ausuka, MariaR, GreyICE, Nero Cain}
{Panopticon, Centipede, TChill}

Liked Vvolfs recent posting. Really vibing with Gorkingtons PoV. I feel like Grey has got a lot better too but I'm going to be stubborn and leave him in my scum leans for now just in case. I'll analyse the ISOs of the bottom two rows next.

I do better with live interactions but I feel like I'm not getting a lot of responses to my questions or getting taken seriously which is frustrating. I'll try a different approach with this game tomorrow when I feel better. Rip.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: MariaR

[CheekyTeeky]

Um if Elli has a guilty on MariaR you all should listen.

[CheekyTeeky]

Especially you Creature/Srceenplay O_o

[CheekyTeeky]

Thor explain to me how it makes sense for scum!CS to claim a fake guilty? Why is everyone brushing this off? We now effectively have a 1v1 scenario that should be happening where people are either lynching MariaR or CS.

Am I doing this wrong?
SHOULD I START ORDERING YOU ALL AROUND IN CAPS AND STRONGARM THE LYNCH LIKE CHESSGOD?

[CheekyTeeky]

Boo SRCEENPLAY LIKELY SCUM WITH MARIA.

[CheekyTeeky]

THOR PROBABLY SCUM WITH MARIA AND SRCEENPLAY. EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T VOTE IN MARIA/CS TODAY IS SCUM CLAIMING.

[CheekyTeeky]

I will derail every other wagon. Just try me srceenplay you scumbutt.

[CheekyTeeky]

Caps are strangely empowering. I feel like I get it XD

[CheekyTeeky]

EXCELLENT PANOPTICON AND CREATURE TOWN.

[CheekyTeeky]

Gork and Brian I like you dudes. Don't be scummy. Vote today or point out my flawed logic in this 1v1 speed wagon race. Actually just vote! My logic is flawless mwahaha.

[CheekyTeeky]

Chessgod cannot be channelled without arrogance. Silence townie peasant.

[CheekyTeeky]

What are the choices? I'm like 6 pages behind.

The choices are between MariaR and Centipede.

Look, Centipede (Elli) called a guilty on MariaR. Imo this guilty is 100% legitimate because I've seen the results first hand in Team Mafia. I see no reason for scum!CS to do this as it would be suicidal if fake and the wagon on MariaR went through. Today we should be lynching in those two.

[CheekyTeeky]

What are the choices? I'm like 6 pages behind.

The choices are between MariaR and Centipede.

Look, Centipede (Elli) called a guilty on MariaR. Imo this guilty is 100% legitimate because I've seen the results first hand in Team Mafia. I see no reason for scum!CS to do this as it would be suicidal if fake and the wagon on MariaR went through. Today we should be lynching in those two.

It would be suicidal? This sounds like someone who doesn't have much experience with this game or is Scum.

I would get into a debate but we cannot afford to be further distracted by you. If you disagree feel free to vote CS.

Pedit I will not scumread anything except resistance to either of these two wagons.

[CheekyTeeky]

Quick pretty please read Team Mafia Inventions and all you questions will be answered.

[CheekyTeeky]

Oooh, ooh, do me!

(I can't believe anyone buys this btw)

Explain then why this would be happening as either alignment?

[CheekyTeeky]

Nero can you please vote Maria and we look at those tomorrow?

[CheekyTeeky]

Roger that captain.

[CheekyTeeky]

theres also some part of me that doesnt like that a maria wagon based entirely on elli's rep and cheeky saying "UR SCUM IF U DONT" basically gives all of these players an excuse to jump on the wagon without actually putting anything behind their vote, which makes the wagon especially hard to hold anyone accountable to that isnt elli on d2 if it flips town.

I had the same issue with Chess and the way he pushed a 1v1 with the elli guilty. Regardless town ended up lynching scum 3/4 days to win even with a substantial lack of wagons. Accountability is more obvious than you think later down the track. Also we have 80 other pages of content to tack on to wagon reactions

I don't think it would make sense.
That said - he's not claiming a guilty, he's claiming a super strong read.
I am willing to dance with that game, you are not - but explain to me this one, if he's wrong - how do you analyze a blind wagon where they can claim read?
That should tell you all you need to know about my vote placement.

An Elli-tell is strong enough to be considered a guilty from my pov plus just look at how MariaR is obv scumming in response, hiding behind an important PR claim and pleading for more time instead of doing anything to dissolve the wagon or push back at us. This is not even a slight concern to me.

But to humour you, let's say it fails. We then lynch Elli which guarantees you a scumflip imo. Elli had referenced TM2018 early game and knows full well what happened in Inventions mafia would make at least Creature, Screen, Beeboy and I consider his claim on MariaR an instaguilty and would have done so intentionally as scum to get a mislynch on Maria on whom he had some magical PR reading ability.

Either way if we lynch Elli or mariaR it guarantees us a scumflip by EOD2 and we can work from there.

[CheekyTeeky]

This is where I'm up to:

{Creature, Beeboy, Gorkington}
{Thor, Spiffeh, Hopkirk, Brigand Vvolf, Brian Skies, Toranaga}
{Bins, Srceenplay, Quick, TheWorst}
{Ausuka, MariaR, GreyICE, Nero Cain}
{Panopticon, Centipede, TChill}

This is from Cheeky's last post before she starts going after Maria because "Elli has a guilty"

Centipede is on the lowest tier and Maria is a step above. So going from scum reading Centipede to trusting them unconditionally at least warrants some kind of explanation?

I feel like the explanation is implicit in my posting and am a little concerned that you're not seeing it. I don't believe Scum CS would claim the "guilty" and I'm completely reevaluating my reads based on this. Can you please join us?

[CheekyTeeky]

Lol I'll let you catch up.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ughhhhhhhhh you had to be there this is the winning strategy!!! I am super excited to play in another game with this and I shared all the same scepticism as you guys but just read the effing game! Kthnx.

[CheekyTeeky]

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Yes Chesskid used it and explains it but sorry I think you have to wade through 600 posts...luckily he has a tendency to repeat himself.

[CheekyTeeky]

Chesskid said he used Elli's program.

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh misread. Elli said he used it on Maria but not for his townreads.

[CheekyTeeky]

Omg is that not what he said?

[CheekyTeeky]

i actually don't mind being lynched if I'm sheeped unconditionally after and d1 lasts 75 pages or so.
for people who don't know I'd recomend them search around for certain things about me lel

Whiffed that post...still back on page 35, but since for every page I read another pops up, might as well just break up this post.

from above - @Quick - basically you're just arguing that not explaining reads is scummy. I'll agree with that. Indeed, I've already said I scumread the slot. What point are you trying to advance here? I already town read you and scumread him, so...?

i actually don't mind being lynched if I'm sheeped unconditionally after and d1 lasts 75 pages or so.
for people who don't know I'd recomend them search around for certain things about me lel

Please don't waste time with AtE.
You've been called out on doing spit - you are half agreeing with it.
Either up your apparent activity, or accept that this is a scumtell you'll absorb repeatedly.
I don't like the yucky feel of the bargain toss out.

have you read or are you aware of inventions mafia

i have someone as 100% scum now.

only one though and I'm too busy to do the rest so I'm leaving that to chara.

stay tuned.

don't plan on revealing for a few irl days unless chara does it on their own

i only gave them the name kek

ideally we trade 1v2 at least so etc.

anyway I think I'm only a couple shy of 11 for people here who know to sheep me when I say 100 so nbd

and i mean frankly, if centipede has a "guilty" and theyre being this inactive i really dont see the point in holding it back.
so, i would probably advocate for that being outted sooner if theyre just sitting on it doing nothing.

i have exams, sorry.

it's Maria. she's scum. go nuts.

Elli isn't a paragon nom because he uses a machine every single game. you realize that, right? if this wasn't an organic read he would have told me that.
VOTE: Maria

Maria makes me feel no type of way so I hope Elli explains that instead of trusting we'll take his word for it

i'm taking his word for it. so if you're think we're scum, we're scum, but if you think we're town, Maria's scum. :>
bed now, night.

town is Grey, Gork, Quick, possibly Hopkirk

scum is Maria and Ausuka. that's all i have right now. everything but Maria is my read.

pedit: take it up with Elli, it's not like i know how it works beyond the vaguest of things i've been told.

Pretty sure he's claimed to have used the program for the read.

[CheekyTeeky]

Spoiler:

i actually don't mind being lynched if I'm sheeped unconditionally after and d1 lasts 75 pages or so.
for people who don't know I'd recomend them search around for certain things about me lel

Whiffed that post...still back on page 35, but since for every page I read another pops up, might as well just break up this post.

from above - @Quick - basically you're just arguing that not explaining reads is scummy. I'll agree with that. Indeed, I've already said I scumread the slot. What point are you trying to advance here? I already town read you and scumread him, so...?

i actually don't mind being lynched if I'm sheeped unconditionally after and d1 lasts 75 pages or so.
for people who don't know I'd recomend them search around for certain things about me lel

Please don't waste time with AtE.
You've been called out on doing spit - you are half agreeing with it.
Either up your apparent activity, or accept that this is a scumtell you'll absorb repeatedly.
I don't like the yucky feel of the bargain toss out.

have you read or are you aware of inventions mafia

i have someone as 100% scum now.

only one though and I'm too busy to do the rest so I'm leaving that to chara.

stay tuned.

don't plan on revealing for a few irl days unless chara does it on their own

i only gave them the name kek

ideally we trade 1v2 at least so etc.

anyway I think I'm only a couple shy of 11 for people here who know to sheep me when I say 100 so nbd

and i mean frankly, if centipede has a "guilty" and theyre being this inactive i really dont see the point in holding it back.
so, i would probably advocate for that being outted sooner if theyre just sitting on it doing nothing.

i have exams, sorry.

it's Maria. she's scum. go nuts.

Elli isn't a paragon nom because he uses a machine every single game. you realize that, right? if this wasn't an organic read he would have told me that.
VOTE: Maria

Maria makes me feel no type of way so I hope Elli explains that instead of trusting we'll take his word for it

i'm taking his word for it. so if you're think we're scum, we're scum, but if you think we're town, Maria's scum. :>
bed now, night.

town is Grey, Gork, Quick, possibly Hopkirk

scum is Maria and Ausuka. that's all i have right now. everything but Maria is my read.

pedit: take it up with Elli, it's not like i know how it works beyond the vaguest of things i've been told.

Pretty sure he's claimed to have used the program for the read.

Ebwop sorry I broke the spoiler

[CheekyTeeky]

...I'm sorry for wasting everyone's time. I'm going to go die somewhere dark and quiet now.

[CheekyTeeky]

vote Grey with me

Vote Quick

I'm fine with this my dudes.

im ok.

vote:Quick

Funny series of posts. Quick scumslip > Nero's push on Grey the whole game, so now Nero is voting with Grey...O_o'

That was a pretty bad slip though. Still today I'd like to lynch in MariaR, Bins, Ausuka. I think scum Bins spews Panopticon town. We can deal with quick later.

[CheekyTeeky]

I feel like I'd get more from a MariaR lynch today.

[CheekyTeeky]

cringe

Why didn't you vote Grey earlier after expressing suspicion there?

Is the cringe @ the wagon on Quick or @ Quick's reactions? Do you have a read there?

Slight crumvibes from Quick but any scumslip accompanied by a LOL makes me question my sanity

Nero does this remind you of someone?

[CheekyTeeky]

LOL even Quick's jokes make no sense.

[CheekyTeeky]

I feel like Nero should've known it was a joke seeing as he pushed him for a joke "quick what's going on in the scum pt" also didn't like that he abandoned his tunnel for it on the same page.

[CheekyTeeky]

Unless scum are lurking :/

[CheekyTeeky]

Unless scum are lurking :/

likely inconsequential since we can just find more town and poe.

Challenge accepted.

[CheekyTeeky]

Unless scum are lurking :/

aka the lurkers that are getting the most attention?

What?

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't have meta on any of the unsorted there but I'll dig through them at some point and give my PoV.

Pedit ok let's do it.

VOTE: Srceenplay

[CheekyTeeky]

Why did you prodge but then stay to answer questions if we're "pissing you off?"

[CheekyTeeky]

Srceenplay why do you scumread quick? What do you make of reactions to his slip?

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh sorry "slip"

InB4 Pano SRs me.

[CheekyTeeky]

Hey CheekyTeeky, who could be this game's mastina?

I know what you mean but I don't know if anyone here fits that style of extreme scum buddy buddying.

[CheekyTeeky]

Srceenplay why do you scumread quick? What do you make of reactions to his slip?

I seriously doubt “that” is a slip.
I have showed some of their subconscious slips though.

I think it's now well established as a joke, the question was about other people's reactions to it. Like mine, Nero, Grey, The worst and TChill?

[CheekyTeeky]

Huh, so I got like an organic chemistry test tomorrow. Atleast I guess I'm good at it so it should elevate my mood for tomorrow.

Oh glgl! I hated organic chemistry.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Maria L-2 I believe.

[CheekyTeeky]

Is there a reason you guys aren't pushing me directly?

[CheekyTeeky]

[CheekyTeeky]

Chara gave the worst a thumbs up, not sure why.

[CheekyTeeky]

Gork reads town to me idk about Spiffeh.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Spiffeh

[CheekyTeeky]

I can't help but feel like this is all a set up.

[CheekyTeeky]

I can't help but feel like this is all a set up.

I assume this has something to do with why you're voting for me? Either way, please explain.

I think scum shot MariaR because why would town shoot her if she's at L-1? I disliked your reaction the most as it felt disingenuous and opportunistic to start leading the lynch on town which feels pre-planned. I mean I SR pan too but it's almost too easy?

[CheekyTeeky]

Eh I guess you have a point but I'm going to have my reservations for now.

[CheekyTeeky]

Can you guys just case me or something I'm not understanding the scum reads on me at all?

[CheekyTeeky]

Can you guys just case me or something I'm not understanding the scum reads on me at all?

People are voting you?
lololol

VOTE: Tchill

~tn5421

What?

[CheekyTeeky]

Well it's important to me so I can sort their reads. Like it literally makes no sense at this point.

[CheekyTeeky]

Well it's important to me so I can sort their reads. Like it literally makes no sense at this point.

maybe you should explain why it makes no sense to scum read you.

What and save you from spewing obvious bs?

[CheekyTeeky]

D: sorry for being lazy I'll be better when I'm not overwhelmed and overgamed.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Panopticon

[CheekyTeeky]

Cheeky's posts re: the guilty look a shitload like scum bussing for credit. Quick's disbelief is a lil lean scum for me but I could still see that coming from town.

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

-obserVed

Explain how my actions make sense as bussing.

[CheekyTeeky]

Happy scum is dead. Sad more people are fucking taking it as an excuse that not giving reasons is pro-town. Bad play remains godawful.

Vote: Screenplay

The hypocrisy here made me lol.

[CheekyTeeky]

With Cheeky, there's absolutely no way I see town playing corraling for the guilty that hard. It felt manufactured to me.

You do realise I was mimicking Chess who happened to be town corralling votes for an elli-tell guilty? It would feel manufactured because it was. Why would scum me bring attention to myself and my buddy when people were largely ignoring Elli's read? Well I guess that's WIFOM but I had previously suspected MariaR so it's not like the push came out of nowhere, I just needed the extra confidence of the "guilty" to push it to confirmed TvS for me.

[CheekyTeeky]

Anyone who mimics chess should be lynched on the spot anyway.
Also, you said people were widely ignorning Elli's read, but I recall you pulling all that when the wagon was gaining a lot of traction. Am I wrong?

Lol I thought Chess should've been lynched too, no I didn't pull all of it because even when I completely embarrassed myself misunderstanding that it was just a read not a programmed guilty - CS's confidence and association hunting still made me feel TvS. I jumped on Srceenplay to help sort him as per Chara's request but it was like sorting a brick wall, my intention was always to lynch Maria and get the 1v1 sorted. I don't see how you came to this assumption?

[CheekyTeeky]

Panopticon do you guys communicate much in your pt?

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok well that eases my suspicion somewhat. Your hydra dissonance is probably part of the reason you guys look scummy. Like I found it really hard to believe one of you was right amongst the aftermath of Maria's flip and the other comes in not knowing what's going on. Although I disagree with your reads I feel like your intent in sorting me and you pushing against the grain with your Tor read is less likely to come from scum in your position.

VOTE: Spiffeh

Can you guys help me sort this slot?

[CheekyTeeky]

@Cheeky: So... why vote Spiffeh, then?

all im saying is if your main point is a gif its probably not a good case.

It's more than a gif, it's about a man's pride.

-obserVed

I felt like his push on you was too opportunistic given the timing of everything. It's annoying me that I keep flip flopping on him so I would appreciate some help clearing his slot si vous plait.

[CheekyTeeky]

Nero if I'm right I'm going to death tunnel you every game we're in Nero for constantly being a hypocrite and calling me dumb. You don't know me at all so stfu.

Anyway I'm not going to have much time over next couple of days so I'm sheeping CS to make my vote useful and I'll try Spiffeh again tomorrow if we're both still here.

CS who are you voting?

[CheekyTeeky]

I felt like his push on you was too opportunistic given the timing of everything. It's annoying me that I keep flip flopping on him so I would appreciate some help clearing his slot si vous plait.

What about the timing was opportunistic? Maria had just flipped leaving Tchill as the leading wagon, and since Panopticon was my second lynch choice after Maria and looked even worse with her flip, I urged people to vote there instead.

If you really want to sort me why don't you ask me questions or do something to make that happen? I think I've provided enough content to make you have an opinion one way or the other so idk how a basically naked vote on me is going to accomplish what you're claiming you want done.

CheekyTeeky I would like a response to this.

You don't get to be completely useless by parking and me without explaining why/trying to engage with me about your suspicions that you apparently have.

I've already explained my thoughts about it feeling like a set up. Whilst your case does make sense it just felt too easy.

I had my vote "parked" on you intending to ISO dive you and had no idea there wasn't much time left in the day. I think the reactions/lack of to my vote on you are also interesting. My vote has been on you for just over 12 hours btw I don't understand why you're making it sound like I've left it there all D1.

Why is TChill a bad wagon? What are your thoughts on Srceenplay?

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't understand the townread. Are you saying Tbone avoiding the Quick wagon makes him unlikely scum?

[CheekyTeeky]

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=75915&activity_overview=1

Loool ninjad

[CheekyTeeky]

Ehhh VOTE: Srceenplay not much of a loss if town tbh.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm tempted to vote Grey just for the emotional meltdown that will ensue

[CheekyTeeky]

Can you summarise what I'm missing there? IIRC he was playing against his scum meta early game.

[CheekyTeeky]

Wow nice case, I completely missed the Maria associations and wagon hopping. I feel like you should live just for effort with the amount of lurker slots. I'll admit I'm one of them atm though.

I think that comment was on like page 5 or something? I think Hopkirk said it was a joke. Tor and I recently played with Scum!Hopkirk in twin trap, his tone felt different to when we ISO dived him here. Admittedly that was long before the CS/Maria saga and I may have overlooked his posts since then.

I have to check why gork and CS are voting you.

[CheekyTeeky]

Wut?

[CheekyTeeky]

Spiffeh
Tchill13

Thor665
CheekyTeeky
Brigand Vvulf

The Worst
Srceenplay
Brian Skies

Ausuka
GreyICE

partially-finished sorting of everyone in the PoE. please like, comment, and subscribe. (i want feedback) keep in mind the highest of the list isn't "confident townread", but rather the lowest is the player i'd be happiest lynching first.

I feel like I've been dumped D: but this isn't about me. Focus.

[CheekyTeeky]

You sure love meta dont you.

i don't have meta on Grey either, but even i can see that if his tone is similar as both alignments, tonereading him in a general sense isn't going to get someone very far, which was Gork's point.

also i'm here, hello. i'm ISOing chill now.
~Chara

1278 and posts preceding it, thoughts? while chill is objectively scummy, the way Grey keeps engaging him in taunts and re-justifying why chill is objectively obvious scum makes me pretty happy with where my vote is so far. especially for a player like Grey, who was lecturing Elli and i on proper townplay and being charismatic to get players to follow our reads, which probably doesn't include seeking out onesided conversations with the scum we're trying to lynch.
~Chara

This is all I could find from CS. Tbh if feels like they're looking for a reason to justify their vote rather than super convinced Grey is scum. If you know TChill is objectively scummy (and I hate that he's above me on your list) then why are they scumreading you for scumreading TChill when they kinda admitted they can't tone read him well.

I'm disappointed.

Gork's confidence seemed to vanish after your case thing but Hopkirk has some pretty valid points about you. I think the scummiest thing is that your aggressiveness/confidence feels a little forced at parts. I honestly can't be bothered doing the work today.

Can we just lynch someone useless like the worst and or srceenplay and move on?

[CheekyTeeky]

Thor you're weirding me out. Just saying.

So is TChill no longer a thing then?

[CheekyTeeky]

Idk his enthusiasm is weird. I think I'm just too used to him being scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

Your lack of sheep is weirding me out, so there's that.

TChill feels less optimal after the MariaR flip, no?

Lack of sheep? Yes lack of sleep. I guess?

[CheekyTeeky]

I don’t want to die.
VOTE: grey

Disgusting.
VOTE: Srceenplay

I know you can play far better than that if you wanted to. (Completely Unoriginal comes to mind)

~tn5421

What if I was wrong D:

Guys not on the main wagons, can you please move your votes somewhere useful we got 16 hours.

[CheekyTeeky]

Wtf...Srceen why would you dayvig Maria who was at L-1ish, and who you weren't even scum reading? Why wouldn't you shoot TChill?

[CheekyTeeky]

"i really dont want to die"
"lol whatever kill me i didnt want to play anyways"

DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DI EDIEIEIEIEDIEI

I see Policy Lynches make you hard.

[CheekyTeeky]

"i really dont want to die"
"lol whatever kill me i didnt want to play anyways"

DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DI EDIEIEIEIEDIEI

I see Policy Lynches make you hard.

i mean, the differences in attitude dont feel real to me, so not really a policy lynch? im just satisfied feeling absolved from the possibility of being wrong if i am wrong at this point.

Wtf...Srceen why would you dayvig Maria who was at L-1ish, and who you weren't even scum reading? Why wouldn't you shoot TChill?

you can go in the scumpile though.

LOL

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: GreyIce Let's go. It's 2am here so glgl us. Brian put your vote on Grey instead of unvoting.

[CheekyTeeky]

Lmao well we basically have the game solved so I don't mind being sacrificed. Grey vote seems omgusy but fine, Hopkirk vote was terrible, Gorkington came back as conf town Zombie, Pan is pretty iffy but has already been a major wagon so idk.

Chikadee/Vvulf interaction is pretty lol.

Thor can be town for his amazing Srceenplay read. Still don't like that I can't sort Bins and Spiffeh so will look deeper into that.

VOTE: Hopkirk

[CheekyTeeky]

Creature why is the worst town?

[CheekyTeeky]

Creature why is the worst town?

Were you present at the time he was hyperposting?

No?

[CheekyTeeky]

Tbh I don't even know what Hopkirk is talking about lol.

[CheekyTeeky]

Wtf...Srceen why would you dayvig Maria who was at L-1ish, and who you weren't even scum reading? Why wouldn't you shoot TChill?

this looks fake

+

i dont see why cheeky changes her vote to grey.
doesnt really make sense in terms of what she was saying at around that time.

Well yeah it looks terrible but it is what it is. I didnt believe his claim to start with and then when he responded to brian about how he'd set it up earlier in the day I changed my mind. Also didn't like that Grey wasn't putting his vote on the srceen, felt like he knew it was a mislynch with the deadline so close putting his vote somewhere useless.

[CheekyTeeky]

Thor can be town for his amazing Srceenplay read. Still don't like that I can't sort Bins and Spiffeh so will look deeper into that.

I think Bins and I should be really easy to sort after what transpired at the end of the Day

But that's just me

Can you explain this?

[CheekyTeeky]

Creature seems completely unaware of the gamestate. His meta is literally strong enough to be a trust tell, I don't know why you keep focussing on that?

[CheekyTeeky]

Cheeky, why aren't you pushing me if you're voting me? You aren't mentioning me.

I did when I voted you, you've still not explained your vote on me. Feel free to do so at any point.

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh I'm still alive. *does townie stuff*

Who is AP replacing?

[CheekyTeeky]

Because I chose to lynch Srceen instead of GI when it could have easily swung the other way

Weak.

[CheekyTeeky]

Fine no idea why we're lynching a lurker everyone town read at the start, when Hopkirk just scum claimed with his read shift on me AGAIN opportunistically following the crowds opinions of me.

Thor have you made a case on beebs yet? Link me please.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Cheeky choo choo

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh no you caught me! Quick VOTE: Beeboy

[CheekyTeeky]

UNVOTE:

Scum claim.

[CheekyTeeky]

Lets kill your buddy first.

[CheekyTeeky]

Votecount 2.73

Beeboy(5)

~ Chickadee(20), Thor665(27), GreyICE(28), Brian Skies(42), CheekyTeeky(15)

CheekyTeeky(4)

~ Gorkington(17), Beeboy(5), The Worst(82), Bins(20)

Bins(2)

~ Centipede Syndrome(25), Creature(50)

Panopticon(1)

~ Nero Cain(19)

Brian Skies(1)

~ Panopticon(24)


Not Voting (7): Town Gunner(0), Mafia Gunner(0), Vaxkiller(9), Hopkirk(35), Spiffeh(15), Brigand Vvulf(23), AP(41)

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2018-05-07 12:19:59)

I might be wrong on Panto but I am still leaning towards Brian Skiies right now.
I need to reeval Cheeky but I recall her slot being town same goes for bins.

Uh you're voting me?

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm a villager.

[CheekyTeeky]

But I love meme Elli bring them back :/

I am a villager with the ability to protect which lasts a night and day phase.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't get it.

[CheekyTeeky]

[CheekyTeeky]

Srceenplay shot maria.

[CheekyTeeky]

What's yours?

[CheekyTeeky]

Well target away. It's not me I've given you my claim.

[CheekyTeeky]

I get that you're lynching me but you don't need to be an ass about it.

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh lol. Yeah I'm shaking in my boots.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

I didn't really believe the guilty on Maria btw. Just thought I'd try something new. Was fun while it lasted. Second half of this game sucked balls.

[CheekyTeeky]

None of you guys get to brag. You can just go on about that terrible cheeky wolf game where she tried bussing all her team mates (except ausuka) and gave the game to town. Sorry team.

Gg.