Mini 2004 - Birth of the Necromancer - [DERP! - MOD LOSES]

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VOTE: Tywin Lannister
CROSSBOW THIS WITH ME

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!!kcauQ

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Also I’m going to get this out of the way right now guys. I’m town. I’m just going to lurk out this game day.

Wai tho

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eating wisdom = eating brains = zombie

hai scumclaim VOTE: Nancy Drew 39

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Caught scum in post 16 yaaas

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We're lynching Nancy right?
Snazzy, let's post dank memes for 2 wks

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Panic over rvs
Overjustifying votes
Overexplaining jokes
AtE

Can someone meta ND39 for me and just verify this isn't ~a thing~?

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Same thats a very srceen good vibes entry

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Jfc beef you're the best

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All due respect ND39 but that was physically painful to watch......I am here to lynch scumz not relive the angst of my high school life

If youd put as much time into this game thinking about others' alignments as you have spamming AtE the game state would be a lot better and people would have actual reads on you.

Honest feedback

VOTE: Eeveelution

Great vote VOTE: Eeveelution

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Nancy enough with the selfmeta and theories
I want to see what you think about people's alignments.

Rn, I’m the most sus about Action Dan, I think his professed concern for me doesn’t add up; if he’s beyond convinced I’M scum.

I also don’t like Zito not giving any reason for voting on me; even when I pressed him on it.

VOTE: Action Dan

Are scum more likely to vote without reasons?
Why/why not?

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All due respect ND39 but that was physically painful to watch......I am here to lynch scumz not relive the angst of my high school life

If youd put as much time into this game thinking about others' alignments as you have spamming AtE the game state would be a lot better and people would have actual reads on you.

Honest feedback

VOTE: Eeveelution

Great vote VOTE: Eeveelution

Well, sorry for that but I thought the votes last night on me were a joke; so I was shocked to find myself at L-2. j Would you really be this nonchalant if you unexpectedly found yourself at L-2 in a d1 maj vote? I seriously doubt it.

Thanks for the free “advice” but it would be far more helpful to me; to tell me your reasons for voting Evee.

ND39 confirmed optimal policy lynch if we need one

Address my other post now

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Nancy enough with the selfmeta and theories
I want to see what you think about people's alignments.

Rn, I’m the most sus about Action Dan, I think his professed concern for me doesn’t add up; if he’s beyond convinced I’M scum.

I also don’t like Zito not giving any reason for voting on me; even when I pressed him on it.

VOTE: Action Dan

Are scum more likely to vote without reasons?
Why/why not?

^^^^
ND39 answer this one

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Nancy enough with the selfmeta and theories
I want to see what you think about people's alignments.

Rn, I’m the most sus about Action Dan, I think his professed concern for me doesn’t add up; if he’s beyond convinced I’M scum.

I also don’t like Zito not giving any reason for voting on me; even when I pressed him on it.

VOTE: Action Dan

Are scum more likely to vote without reasons?
Why/why not?

In general, I’d definitely say yes or really bad ones. I was recently in a game where a player (who eventually flipped scum) invoked multiball.

So yeah, the thought process behind giving a read - accurate or not, is often key to descerning alignment.

Correct.

Answer the question. Why would scum do this more than town?

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Ftr I will not join you on ActDan atm I am sorting you obv

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(:

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ND39 the reason I stated you as a good PL is because you're difficult to sort and dont seem to be open to explaining your reads/thought process.

On the balance or probabilities a random player you have an exchange with is more likely to be town than scum. You're acting like everyone is going after you. We are not all scum hun.

You seem to have ignored my question as to WHY scum are more likely to vote with no reasoning. Spoiler: that is a bottom tier excuse for a scumtell. If that's your earnst attempt at scumhunting and you're alive late game you'll lose this for town.

I am trying to see this fypov dude meet me half way. I have dropped 50 times the amount of readable content (i.e.not waffling theory talk) you have so sorry, I need you to engage me before I explain shit to you.

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I miss you srceen. This game is lacking a certain srceeniness.

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Whats on your mind?

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*takes off asshole hat*

Thank you ND39, stay woke

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<3Communist lynching<3

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brass are we finally town together?

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VOTE: Zito that was a long phase

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ANKAMIUS!!!!!!! now my next post in "describe the playstyle above you" will actually be my own thoughts. c:

Are you town?

actually

VOTE: tywin

Resume operation crossbow
VOTE: Tywin

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ANKAMIUS!!!!!!! now my next post in "describe the playstyle above you" will actually be my own thoughts. c:

Are you town?

actually

VOTE: tywin

Resume operation crossbow
VOTE: Tywin

Dont do this, assuming wisdom is town here, this is a terrible sheep.

As far as yesterday goes, Tywin is my strongest TR though I'm not entirely sure I agree on him with Zito. Gonna go back and touch bases with Nero but like... I know the duck can do better than this

I maintain this was an excellent pressurewagon I would have joined at any point in the day.

Also.....I am phenomenally weak d1, pretty consistently.

Having said that TLani volunteered a lot of info and I see it coming from a town mindset so

UNVOTE:

Wisdom where u at with him

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D1 = early game...i.e. still now but sometimes not technically all of D1...sorry for bad terminology.

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Me? General discomfort wbu?

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Opinion just changed a bit. Where are you at with Zito?

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Tru haha

Whos played with him before

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Did anyone block someone?

My guess.

Guardian Angel wrote:
Hello, EeveeLution Army, you are Angela Nightingale, Town Guardian Angel

You have the following abilities:
Protection: Each night, you may choose a living player to save from being killed.

Eternal Calling: You continue to have protection abilities even after you have died.

You win when there are no living mafia members.

Please confirm that you have received this role PM by replying with your role and alignment.

The main game thread is here.

Angela's whole existence was in saving lives. It didn't matter what it costed or if it was even possible; she put everything she had into her patients.

Maybe check their iso for town reads?

yo Srceen are you doing this rn because of your general v/la or something else?

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Gave up at 363 as I am TRing both nancy and dan

Tywin wordvomit reads more like town throwing ideas around than scum narrative fmpov what he's saying isn't flawless at all but it's not evil reasoning.

VOTE: Zito (not sheeping wisdom i s2g)

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I like Tywin. SOD2 was my make or break and the dude made it.

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VOTE: action go HAM

I'm still not unvoting Dan if I was unclear.

{Tywin, TW, BH, SC, ND, Kokichi} contains the scum team, no strong opinion where in there to lynch. Probably not Nancy.

Bruh

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BRUH

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Good take tbh

Are you not adding AD to your scumpool to mess w peoples ocd or

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Whats your thinking on brass, Ankamius?

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@anka understood, I'll withhold my opinion here a bit.

@eddie why are you leaving your vote there?

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It's rare his brand of intransigence after earning the stink eye from almost everyone in thread (ignoring correlations) comes from scum.

unrelated, @brass, if you can't understand a even a single of those reads my desire to explain any to all of them dissipates completely.

I'm just asking for some analysis.

I can understand and agree with some, but I'm looking for thought processes.

This sentence right here.

Im not ashamed to admit this went over my head. Can you ELI5?

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Tywin
Koki

y u so relatable

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It's rare his brand of intransigence after earning the stink eye from almost everyone in thread (ignoring correlations) comes from scum.

unrelated, @brass, if you can't understand a even a single of those reads my desire to explain any to all of them dissipates completely.

I'm just asking for some analysis.

I can understand and agree with some, but I'm looking for thought processes.

This sentence right here.

Im not ashamed to admit this went over my head. Can you ELI5?

It is a scum mindset. Town has an agenda when looking to get more information from people because they need them to get reads. Scum (especially weaker scum) don't have to care, their reads are all fake unless they're hunting another team or a serial killer anyways.

Brass isn't looking to further his own reads from AD, he's scraping his mind for something to attack or attach on to.

IME brass tends to ask pointed questions about odd things but he seems to have decent instincts.

Fwiw.

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So papa Zito, going to explain that scum read on me yet or no

I'm curious why it bothers you so much.

it kinda irked me too, some kind of reasoning would be rad
i like koki's state of mind this game so far

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I'm sorry :c but probably. it's not very interesting but it's an ok premise and at least 2 things happened.

luckily it's really short

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I mean it's worth a skim at least from a factual pov
otherwise just watch at how we discuss d1 & ask questions about it and gather your own reads from it?

up to you

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I feel like the Zito thing is probably a playstyle issue maybe??

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Good thinkin VOTE: srceenplay

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because youre scumreading her playstyle
as shes doing to you
you both are naturally scummy for whoever doesnt know you

+1

still not sure whether zito is a scumbutt or his playstyle is just troublesome honestly.
that read is kinda distracting me.

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Where is Tywin.... He and ND are the only Anka votes I dont mind and I wanna chat

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It wasnt intentional--hardclaim blonde irl.

Mind quoting the question in question?

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Good question!

Town: tw tl nd39 koki
Townlean: wis dan and maybe you
Consistent but need to post more: brass srceen
Eddie Cane: Eddie Cane

Everyone else is scummy but irksomely so, not sorted properly. I have no strong scumreads rn.

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Like this laissez-faire vibe seems to come from town srceen but he's vibin too disconnected for my liking rn

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Kinda thinking my reasons for liking Anka for town are nai
They remind me of some of my nai traits (just less hyper and probably smarter)

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Searching for sugar man >:

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Srceen's push is bad lol

pedit: whaaaaaa

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Read on srceen Koki?
With commentary

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I read that as Anka saying they liked the trajectory of Sugar's reads and looked forward to them catching up so they could chat....

Which incidentally is almost exactly what the post says....


Koki please explain your read on Srceen now

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So I'm kinda leaning there being scum in Wisdom/Ank.

Why?
Who?
Why?

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That only half answers my first question......which one of them and why

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Lazyposting at work and I dont think I can keep up with this rn.if anyone needs me please shoot me a question and Ill respond asap.

Sorry

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Consistent but need to post more: brass srceen

What does this mean?

You seem like you but there isn't enough content for me to read you with much certainty




What'd I miss?

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brass giving such confident reads makes me curious.

Still gonna sheep him tho VOTE: Sugar

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I'm waiting for someone to get back to me

Woah in the scum pt?

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I'm waiting for someone to get back to me

Woah in the scum pt?

Yeah, I want to make sure that my partners are on board with my gambit before I go through with it.

Fair enough.
Carry on.

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Same tbh maybe not liking Wis this page

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Good question!

Town: tw tl nd39 koki
Townlean: wis dan and maybe you
Consistent but need to post more: brass srceen
Eddie Cane: Eddie Cane

Everyone else is scummy but irksomely so, not sorted properly. I have no strong scumreads rn.

Like this laissez-faire vibe seems to come from town srceen but he's vibin too disconnected for my liking rn

Kinda thinking my reasons for liking Anka for town are nai
They remind me of some of my nai traits (just less hyper and probably smarter)

Srceen's push is bad lol

pedit: whaaaaaa

Worst, what exactly is going on here?

Comment through it for me.

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My reads list is what it is

I don't like srceen for town here

You're nulling since my list


Let me know what else ya need

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VOTE: srceenplay

Suhweeet

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Tywin Lannister has been prodded

Did a bit of gold fall out or did you not prod him hard enough?

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Tywin Lannister has been prodded

Did a bit of gold fall out or did you not prod him hard enough?

I apparently don't know the reference.

I have never seen/read Game of Thrones. That will change if/when I get hired on as an actual employee since I work for a cable company. I don't want to pay for HBO because I'm cheap and I'm okay with waiting.

Winningggg
He is very very rich, and the stories say he shits gold

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In other news, @the worst talk to me about Screenplay here, I'm a little confused on your current vote.

Read my iso or explain why you think it's a bad vote and I'll explain.

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In other news, @the worst talk to me about Screenplay here, I'm a little confused on your current vote.

Read my iso or explain why you think it's a bad vote and I'll explain.

I'm not saying it's a bad vote, I'm just saying your progression seems to be this:

1. He's okay, but needs to post more.
2. His push is bad.
3. I'm voting him.

I'm trying to connect the dots here.

Them's the dots
Lurking til people called him out is irksome as well

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The worst scum reading me is “wow”. I don’t think he has ever scum read me, so it come across as fake.

I didn't even parse this rofl
I've always townread you or come around to it. It's kinda weird to me that I'm finding it so hard here.

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I think you know this isn't fake.

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┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻

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I'm spread a bit thin at the moment but I agree, Wisdom. There's a part of me that wants to connect the dots but also a part of me that sleeps.

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^^^ me rn

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Are you town AGAIN wisdom?

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Like, I'd love to work with my townreads, but three of them are firmly in that absent-for-days list and the fourth thinks everything I do is scummy, so I don't have a whole lot of choice but to go solo.

What, Zito Nero and TyLan?
Who are you TRing who has been absent for a long time?
Sorry if I'm missing a link in the chain here

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All the best Zito, hope we play again one day.

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that vc though

Number of wagons almost equal to number of players

get to work koki and brass

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mmMMMmm the more he posts the less I feel like he's scum
his responses to my gut read are 11/10 transparent trolling and fairly funny

rn I'm kinda half assing til replacements are in and I get some interest
but my vote on him is great for vc aesthetic

why should I vote brass?

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VOTE: brassherald this'll do
Tone feels normalish but the agenda isn't clear

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Welcome back Tywin

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Nope.

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Tywin Lannister has not picked up his prod.

Now seeking replacements for Papa Zito and Tywin Lannister

Guys I'm sorry, I have to replace out. Things have gone all kinds of wrong at work so I'm doing 12 hour days and just don't have the time or energy needed to give this game the attention it deserves. I really hate to leave since this looks like a fun puzzle to solve but you guys will be better served with someone who can devote more attention than I can. Good luck!

Okay. I'll be getting you a replacement momentarily.

Now looking for a replacement for Papa Zito

Presumably you're ok.

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Sweeet

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Equal chance of bussing WIFOM to VCA breaking to mislynch

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zombie isnt necessarily scum?

nevermind the zombie is scum

This slip is adorable
Do we trust it

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Slip felt really gross if thats what you mean

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You guys sure you don’t want to lynch the worst

99 point...... 8 per cent

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Ah, welcome fitz. Missed that.

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holy fuck can someone be like op town for a minute and tell me what to feel about TyLan vs Anka?

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Seeya next time brassy

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Sigh....fuck this wagon
It makes too much sense from boredtownbrass

VOTE: Ankamius choo choo

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okay

I don't feel like voting brass
who should I vote?

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be well soon eddie :c

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Guys please just vote me so I can vig Nancy tonight

dont you DARE touch nancy

^

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I think Eddie is lowest on my reads list rn

I'll sheep Nancy on brass tho

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Koki always reads scummy as shit, especially D1

What's new?

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Seen him in other games?

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I will probably vote Koki w u

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I'll do that too ig

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@beefy

if I controlled the zambie and I pm'd you now like "whadduuuup zambie needs to vote koki rn" and you saw it 5 hrs later would you do that vote?

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@beefy

if I controlled the zambie and I pm'd you now like "whadduuuup zambie needs to vote koki rn" and you saw it 5 hrs later would you do that vote?

I'd do it as soon as I got the chance, yes.

Whoever controls the zombie can also give me a target time for the vote and I will do my best to vote then.

blinding everyone with this because i want to and it's important

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Town, just do me one single favor.

After I'm lynched, and thus two very bad misslynched occurred in a row, please look at who were on the wagons more closely. There's been zero analysis, and it's not good. Try it after please.

please feel welcome to analyse it
or your own wagon

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stilllll waiting on your srceen case which is disturbing

you were groovy d1 but where the fuck are you d2?

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it's important

Why....

Scum can control the zombie by logging in to HZ directly or pming the mod to make their naked vote. How does the mod restating that and adding the delayed vote aspect of any value to town?

because timing is mega fucked wrt the zombie vote
wagon analysis is slightly skewed by the zombie vote

why are you asking this? o.0

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Really interesting that the mod skipped over my question; probably meant to be ambiguous on purpose in that case.

I'm now even less interested in taking the zombie into account on anything except raw numbers on the wagon it's on.

i think beef would say if he can't answer, try re-stating. he's been busy with irl stuff.

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I think I missed a few pages but when I read it feels like I've read most things at least once.
so I think I've missed a few posts.

if I go full blonde someone lmk.

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I think the answer is both.... that is pretty transparently worded imo


pedit: no TyLan I don't really understand wtf people get out of VCA if I'm honest
like I can get obvious stuff but people who swear by it are at least 50,000 IQ higher than me
also i'm lazy

reading your post now :3

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anyone down to wagon Eddie?

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Harmless zombie is scum. It's a scum voter. Mod confirmed it. Harmless zombie is lynching me.

How can anyone be this blind? It's just beyond me. I seriously don't get itm. Even Ank is flailing in an attempt to twist what the mod said with multiple interpretations, but the only significant interpretation worth any credence is that it's an extra scum vote. The mod literally confirmed that in the thread. Ank voted me after Harmless Zombie did, and shes pushing hard to make it seem harmless zombie is somehoe not a scum vote.

Let that sink in. I forgive everyone for being derpy though. I miss things too, but I didn't miss this one. I'll still be lynched with probably 2 or 3 scum on my wagon PLUS a harmless zombie vote, but I want everyone to recognize what's going on after the fact.

this is your worst post so far dude

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but stop. the day is not over at all.

find scum. do you want to wagon eddie with me?

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it's important

Why....

Scum can control the zombie by logging in to HZ directly or pming the mod to make their naked vote. How does the mod restating that and adding the delayed vote aspect of any value to town?

because timing is mega fucked wrt the zombie vote
wagon analysis is slightly skewed by the zombie vote

why are you asking this? o.0

What does town care about the timing of the HZ vote? Anytime the HZ lays down a vote is someone going to scurry to see who amongst the living has made a recent post? If so...who's going to check? And is that person town? And is being online AI?

And how is wagon analysis skewed? We know it's a vote by scum. If it's not a hammer it's wifom...if it's a hammer no HZ vote analysis required.

I asked because you were making a big deal out of nothing. o.0
And I wanted to see if I was missing something but I don't think I am.

we do need to analyse wagons around HZ tho, I actually think unless it hammervotes it exists to dissuade people from joining wagons
but like, WIFOM when applied to townie wagons too quick ig

on that basis we lynch brass with fire and leave tylan the fuck alone--thoughts?


and wasn't there some discussion of the HZ post meaning whoever used it was online? mostly I was just shooting down dumb spec like that

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has any1 missed me

DUDE I MISSED YOU

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I feel like we shouls not lynch Tywin

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it's important

Why....

Scum can control the zombie by logging in to HZ directly or pming the mod to make their naked vote. How does the mod restating that and adding the delayed vote aspect of any value to town?

because timing is mega fucked wrt the zombie vote
wagon analysis is slightly skewed by the zombie vote

why are you asking this? o.0

What does town care about the timing of the HZ vote? Anytime the HZ lays down a vote is someone going to scurry to see who amongst the living has made a recent post? If so...who's going to check? And is that person town? And is being online AI?

And how is wagon analysis skewed? We know it's a vote by scum. If it's not a hammer it's wifom...if it's a hammer no HZ vote analysis required.

I asked because you were making a big deal out of nothing. o.0
And I wanted to see if I was missing something but I don't think I am.

we do need to analyse wagons around HZ tho, I actually think unless it hammervotes it exists to dissuade people from joining wagons
but like, WIFOM when applied to townie wagons too quick ig

on that basis we lynch brass with fire and leave tylan the fuck alone--thoughts?


and wasn't there some discussion of the HZ post meaning whoever used it was online? mostly I was just shooting down dumb spec like that

What are your reads rn

Very little but i love you already so I'll reread and get more excited about this game tmrw

Whoever I am voting rn I am happy wagoning

Wbu?

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The zombie is represented by the alt account, Harmless Zombie. It is controllable both directly (via a login) and indirectly (via PM) by the mafia.

I dont really think thats ambiguous
Mafia can control it either by logging in or pming the mod

amen bro

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I think I might vibe Wizzy and Mollie hardest rn fwiw
Part of me wants Eddie dead but I havent identified which part yet (left wrist is #1 suspect)

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Who did Mollie replace?

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sinks

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are you town?

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Intent to suspend disbelief on Mollie til D3

fight me

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Was brass townie? No
Was it within his townrage? yup

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HOLD ON WIS AND MOL CAN WE.START AN EDDIE WAGON NOW

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Anka start an Eddie wagon w me?

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Was brass townie? No
Was it within his townrage? yup

To elaborate on this my experience with lynching players who are lurking and seem to be immitating their towngame is p sketchy as of now

I think its fair to start with a slight dodgy tinge on mollie because of brass' behaviour but my read is turning around rn

I'm excite

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Hmm maybe I just think mollie is cool. Remind me to reread tomrorow?

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anyone down to wagon Eddie?

but stop. the day is not over at all.

find scum. do you want to wagon eddie with me?

I think I might vibe Wizzy and Mollie hardest rn fwiw
Part of me wants Eddie dead but I havent identified which part yet (left wrist is #1 suspect)

HOLD ON WIS AND MOL CAN WE.START AN EDDIE WAGON NOW

Anka start an Eddie wagon w me?

I think he wants to wagon Eddie.

I wanna wagon Eddie

Wagon Eddie wme?

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u r 1/3+ incoddexf
and probably scum.

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> prstends to only have 3 townreada
> still pretending ro be town

BRUH

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I'm really sad this page actually makes my wagonlust partly policy

I have seen Eddie play better than this 9,001 times

I know sickness and v/la but wtf is that read list

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Mara = Momrangal

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TW i actually feel better about eddie
Why do you not like his posts

Current impressions or morning sober impressions?

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VOTE: eddie cane
drunk!tw was probably onto something here

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worst probtown

....are you pocketing me or has the day finally come?

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If I'm not in your first 3 lynches I'm in the wrong spot in your list

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Anywayyyyy I am wondering if I'm being dumb on a large scale with this game

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Still p sure you were scum that game

VOTE: pirate mollie

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Why's worst low for you btw? Kind of think mollie is buddying him and he knows better than to push you as scum here, he scumreads you so like he's not Town but I wouldn't pick him as a mollie partner

This is what I've been thinking and basically ActionDan was town over brass like. any fucking day.

so I feel better about mollie than brass but probably better again about you atm

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mumble mumble something about sorry eddie mumble

slightly better yes, your energy definitely shifted for having someone to engage with so might be partially my mistake if I hard misread you there

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Probably think trying to force some wagon action was right but cringe

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Nancy gets better and better

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Who in all voted you? I'll check later if no one has

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Kok is ... interesting. I keep forgetting about him.

Can someone tell me if hes lynchbaity or scum this game? I'll decide whether to sheep them

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bye Eddie

is he a secret alt or can I ask who his main is?

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Terrifying......

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Terrifying......

there's worse

i know all too well

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pedit: wait why are we not lynching that then

thinking about it the answer's self explanatory

more kills = more zombies = lylo comes faster

if i get the setup correctly there's only one necromancer, right? so once we get him we can trigger the vig if we have mislynches left

I was reading it like the HZ account is the only zombie and it dies at the end of each day phase. Then the necromancer has to use a new body to bring it back

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Would it be 2:10 or 3:9 with the zombie?

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4 scum votes makes me nervous

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The fact were down to 11 is a blessing (angel pun intended)
Guardian angel role existing at all strongly suggests there's night kills

The idea of tomorrow being 3+HZ:6 MyLo is.......not gr8

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sleep is 4 the weak. This game sucks. You need 2 do ur work.

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Who was on his wagon at its peak?

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Do you think tywin is scum trying to be bad on purpose

no, you just r sux at mafia.

this posting sounds like a meaner version of me
did u absorb me sugar cain

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Hit me up Anka. If my townreads are townreading you it makes sense for me to work with you.

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Do you think you should be like
Out of anyone's lynch pool?

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Csn you give me a reads list Koki?

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choo choo

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Katy are you sure this is town? That VCA is the second worst thing itt so far (the worst being the outcomes anka came to from it)

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I lol'd

pedit: she is a very weak townread for me but I think my urge to knock her into scumreads is policy lust

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My attention is divided and it's currently very boring being town in this game

Lmk who to vote, I'll be more fun l8r

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Possibly but doubt was still kind of in place Also, I don't think you may have been to hard to try and push

...With who?

Wisdom, Eddie, Katyusha have expressed strong townreads on me.
Pirate Mollie can't vote me without outing herself as scum.
Havingfitz is townreading me. Nancy is townreading me.

You're left with Kokichi + Srceenplay + the worst + Tywin Lannister as the possible votes unless you can sway Fitz + Nancy. It's really not much more viable.

I think that the zombie was initially on brass/pirate to deceive us but that they switched to Ty, to push a mislynch.

Pretty much my feel

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#stilltown

Thanks for modding Beef. Bummer about the ending, I'd play this serup again.

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Everyone won