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Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 8:19 am

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what planet is the next day mylo
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Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 8:31 am

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In post 1496, Momrangal wrote:I mean, I highly doubt koki decides to bus when other viable lynch options exists. It would be against his wincon.

Also, why are you all against giving me my shots I promise to do the protown thing with them
Can you go into this more please?
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Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 8:32 am

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I am really struggling to see a case where Kokichi-scum doesn't make sense with the game since he fits the scum agenda I've been reading throughout the day like a glove.
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Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 8:38 am

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I'm going to calculate some things. I'm already noticing something very interesting from the VCs and I want to explore it further.
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Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:19 am

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Okay, preliminary examinations:

Nancy Drew 39 and Havingfitz are now 100% locktown. In no circumstances am I ever going to lynch these two.

Katyusha is very close to locktown, but not quite there. Still unlikely I'll ever support lynching this.
Wisdom is a lower than Katyusha, but he's unlikely to be scum. Some possibility I'll get paranoid of this slot, but will probably be late in the game if ever.

The lynch pool therefore is in {Eddie Cane, Kokichi Oma, pirate mollie, Srceenplay, Sugar Cain, the worst, Tywin Lannister}

Very interesting note in light of this:
In post 256, Beefster wrote:On post , Eeveelution Army was hammered.

Official Vote Count 1-FINAL
EeveeLution Army
(7): Eddie Cane,
Wisdom
, the worst, Kokichi Oma,
Nancy Drew 39
, ,
(LYNCHED)

Papa Zito
(2): Tywin Lannister, brassherald
Nancy Drew 39
(1):
ActionDan

Kokichi Oma
(1):
Papa Zito


Not Voting
(2): MechaGoomba,
EeveeLution Army


With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.



That was the fastest D1 I've ever seen.
I'm leaving my own slot as not green just so it's easier to follow along with this, but this means Eevee 100% had scum on it unless you believe Tywin Lannister + pirate mollie + myself is scum.
In post 378, Beefster wrote:
Official Vote Count 2-3
Papa Zito
(5): Kokichi Oma, Tywin Lannister, ,
Wisdom
, the worst
(L-2)

ActionDan
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Nancy Drew 39
,
Tywin Lannister
(1):
Papa Zito

Eddie Cane
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ActionDan

brassherald
(1): Ankamius

Not Voting
(3): HarmlessZombie, Sugar Cain, Srceenplay

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2018-05-09 18:15:00)
This is also very telling. Unless the scumteam is Eddie Cane + Sugar Cain + Srceenplay (or interplaying myself as replacement of one somewhere),
scum was 100% on the Papa Zito wagon.
I independently believe that scum 100% was wanting a Zito lynch, but it looks even worse with this setup in mind.

Plus the fact that Kokichi Oma + Tywin Lannister + brassherald are the opening votes on Zito,
combined with the fact that they're the ones that stay on it the longest
, looks really bad for that list.

I'm also not convinced the worst is town by the Zito wagon anymore. Now that it's pretty clear both from intuition and hard evidence that the Zito wagon stinks, it doesn't look as good that the worst would hop on and then suddenly hop off a page later. The more slots on the Zito wagon flip scum, the more likely the worst is also scum.
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Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:22 am

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In post 1504, Ankamius wrote:Plus the fact that Kokichi Oma + Tywin Lannister + brassherald are the opening votes on Zito,
combined with the fact that they're the ones that stay on it the longest
, looks really bad for that list.
Oops, this is a lie.

Those three weren't the ones that stayed on the wagon the longest, they're the ones that tried to rekindle the Zito wagon after that period of votes being spread out over 2/3 the playerlist.

There is 100% scum in this window, at least one. I suspect two, since that list suspiciously coincides with my current scumlist.
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Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:23 am

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dont do vca without flips ank
for all you know youre wrong about zito and youre making conclusions based on wrong assumptions
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Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:28 am

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I'm using VCA alongside all my other thoughts, Wisdom. It's not blind.
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Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:32 am

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Kokichi + the worst + (Tywin/mollie)

I'm calling it right now.
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Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:33 am

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Ankamius/havingfitz/Nancy Drew 39

Katyusha
Wisdom

Srceenplay
Sugar Cain

Tywin Lannister
pirate mollie

the worst

Kokichi Oma
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Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:37 am

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what is src doing so high
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Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:38 am

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Katy are you sure this is town? That VCA is the second worst thing itt so far (the worst being the outcomes anka came to from it)
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:39 am

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In post 1509, Ankamius wrote:Ankamius/havingfitz/Nancy Drew 39

Katyusha
Wisdom

Srceenplay
Sugar Cain

Tywin Lannister
pirate mollie

the worst

Kokichi Oma
EDDIE CANE???
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Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:40 am

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im pretty sure ank is town despite disagreeing with how shes trying to form reads
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Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:41 am

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I lol'd

pedit: she is a very weak townread for me but I think my urge to knock her into scumreads is policy lust
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:42 am

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yep she can have that effect if youre not used to her
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Post Post #1516 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:43 am

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In post 1511, the worst wrote:Katy are you sure this is town? That VCA is the second worst thing itt so far (the worst being the outcomes anka came to from it)
Definitely lol i've done this before

mollie before u go tho can u answer my question :(
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Post Post #1517 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:45 am

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In post 1110, Beefster wrote:
Official Vote Count 2-13
Tywin Lannister
(3): Srceenplay, Eddie Cane,
pirate mollie
(3): Wisdom, Nancy Drew 39,
Ankamius
(2): Tywin Lannister, the worst
havingfitz
(1): pirate mollie
Eddie Cane
(1): ActionDan
Sugar Cain
(1): Sugar Cain
Kokichi Oma
(1):

Not Voting
(1):

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2018-05-09 18:15:00)

This is the VC in question. At the time, Brass wagon had died down a little bit and Tylan was a viable CW. Further more, not only did kokichi vote at a time where putting pressure back on his buddy would be precarious, he was super nonchalant about it.

I'm not saying koki can't be scum but if he is, it isn't going to be with Mollie
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Post Post #1518 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:47 am

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Sugar Cain wrote:
In post 1110, Beefster wrote:
Official Vote Count 2-13
Tywin Lannister
(3): Srceenplay, Eddie Cane,
pirate mollie
(3): Wisdom, Nancy Drew 39,
Ankamius
(2): Tywin Lannister, the worst
havingfitz
(1): pirate mollie
Eddie Cane
(1): ActionDan
Sugar Cain
(1): Sugar Cain
Kokichi Oma
(1):

Not Voting
(1):

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2018-05-09 18:15:00)

This is the VC in question. At the time, Brass wagon had died down a little bit and Tylan was a viable CW. Further more, not only did kokichi vote at a time where putting pressure back on his buddy would be precarious, he was super nonchalant about it.

I'm not saying koki can't be scum but if he is, it isn't going to be with Mollie
Wrong.

Pirate mollie actually has a lot more support than Tywin does despite what the vote counts say. It would've been an undertaking at the least to be able to push it through.
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Post Post #1519 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:47 am

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In post 1512, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 1509, Ankamius wrote:Ankamius/havingfitz/Nancy Drew 39

Katyusha
Wisdom

Srceenplay
Sugar Cain

Tywin Lannister
pirate mollie

the worst

Kokichi Oma
EDDIE CANE???
Right above Srceenplay.
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Post Post #1520 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:48 am

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In post 1511, the worst wrote:Katy are you sure this is town? That VCA is the second worst thing itt so far (the worst being the outcomes anka came to from it)
Alright good, glad to see I'm on the right track.
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Post Post #1521 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:49 am

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Possibly but doubt was still kind of in place Also, I don't think you may have been to hard to try and push
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Post Post #1522 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:50 am

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None of those conclusions should be any surprise whatsoever just by how I've been going about getting reads this game.

The only thing that changed is how I'm reading the worst's play throughout the game. The rest is actually about the same as I've been reading the game for a long while now.
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Post Post #1523 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:50 am

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Mara, Kokichi has been constantly saying Tywin is town
he couldnt really push that wagon there
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Post Post #1524 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 9:52 am

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I just... IDK, I kinda feel like there were a couple other options too
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