Mini 2004 - Birth of the Necromancer - [DERP! - MOD LOSES]

[Ankamius]

Ankamius/havingfitz/Nancy Drew 39

Katyusha
Wisdom

Srceenplay
Sugar Cain

Tywin Lannister
pirate mollie

the worst

Kokichi Oma

EDDIE CANE???

Right above Srceenplay.

[Ankamius]

Katy are you sure this is town? That VCA is the second worst thing itt so far (the worst being the outcomes anka came to from it)

Alright good, glad to see I'm on the right track.

[Ankamius]

None of those conclusions should be any surprise whatsoever just by how I've been going about getting reads this game.

The only thing that changed is how I'm reading the worst's play throughout the game. The rest is actually about the same as I've been reading the game for a long while now.

[Ankamius]

Possibly but doubt was still kind of in place Also, I don't think you may have been to hard to try and push

...With who?

Wisdom, Eddie, Katyusha have expressed strong townreads on me.
Pirate Mollie can't vote me without outing herself as scum.
Havingfitz is townreading me. Nancy is townreading me.

You're left with Kokichi + Srceenplay + the worst + Tywin Lannister as the possible votes unless you can sway Fitz + Nancy. It's really not much more viable.

[Ankamius]

Katy are you sure this is town? That VCA is the second worst thing itt so far (the worst being the outcomes anka came to from it)

Alright good, glad to see I'm on the right track.

btw I already double checked a lot of the posts in those time windows.

the worst doesn't look town in them.

[Ankamius]

Official Vote Count 2-13

Tywin Lannister

(3): Srceenplay, Eddie Cane, Harmless Zombie

pirate mollie

(3): Wisdom, Nancy Drew 39, Kokichi Oma

Ankamius

(2): Tywin Lannister, the worst

havingfitz

(1): pirate mollie

Eddie Cane

(1): ActionDan

Sugar Cain

(1): Sugar Cain

Kokichi Oma

(1): havingfitz

Not Voting

(1): Ankamius

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-05-09 18:15:00)

Previous Vote Count

This is the VC in question. At the time, Brass wagon had died down a little bit and Tylan was a viable CW. Further more, not only did kokichi vote at a time where putting pressure back on his buddy would be precarious, he was super nonchalant about it.

I'm not saying koki can't be scum but if he is, it isn't going to be with Mollie

Lynch mollie/Kokichi
Lynch Kokichi/mollie
Lynch Srceenplay
Lynch Sugar Cain -> shoots the worst

Does this work for you Wisdom?

[Ankamius]

Oh, if Srceenplay flips scum, Sugar Cain flips town, and the game is not over yet, replace the worst with Tywin.

[Ankamius]

Thanks for your contribution to the game.

[Ankamius]

Quote your attempt(s) to talk with me.

[Ankamius]

I'd have to reread a lot of things to adjust for that, but I think all that would significantly change is the scumread strength of everyone below null.

Like what?

I'd have to reread a lot of things

to adjust for that, but I

think

all that would significantly change is the scumread strength of everyone below null.

You responded with this but you havent even given me your thoughts after having 600 posts to think about it

That was my answer.

I never said I would actually analyze for it because that would shift my entire view of the game. It's pointless to try to maintain thoughts on two completely separate territories at the same time, it's much easier to confirm one or the other and work from there, and work with the.org likely one in the meantime.

[Ankamius]

The more

[Ankamius]

[Ankamius]

Mollie are you okay

[Ankamius]

*hugs*

Yeah, scum had no chance this game by the time the day ended, I think. Kokichi was likely going to be the Day 3 lynch and Sugar Cain's role meant he wasn't going to live to endgame.

Oh well, I'll still call this a win just for my own ego's sake.

[Ankamius]

I want to know why Nero/Mom claimed vengeful like they did, I'm actually confused about that unless Revenant is a counter to that role.

I actually got really bad pings at points that they were trying to fish for that same role, so I tried really hard not to reveal that I was one of them since I wanted to be nightkilled.

[Ankamius]

Oh shit I was the only vengeful?

[Ankamius]

Wait... huh?

How did Sugar Cain know that role was in the game then?

[Ankamius]

That was a damn good guess. They were hinting at it so well that I was certain they had that role too.

[Ankamius]

Go ahead and release my personal PT, Beef.

[Ankamius]

Ankamius your scumread on me is basically my playstyle. You realize this right?

Now that the game is over, is this legitimately true?

I had you pegged because your actions fit my read of the scum agenda perfectly, albeit combined with your lack of content over time.

[Ankamius]

yoink

[Ankamius]

Yeah, that's my biggest weakness. If I could find a way to be involved like that every game without being prone to being distracted by shiny things all the time, I'd probably be set tbh.

[Ankamius]

I really don't think by the end that Kokichi's playstyle factored into my read, though.

[Ankamius]

I saw it too.

[Ankamius]

GJ everyone, so sorry I had to replace out.

I'm actually really sad we never got to engage this game, I think having that strong a town read on your slot earlier would've had an impact on my reads progression.

[Ankamius]

See, this is why I say to ignore the zombie.

It's true that having a confirmed scum on a wagon means that it's less town-driven, but the way it's done is also too blatantly obvious that it's the case which means scum are more likely to be doing it to try to derail a wagon... but if scum are trying to derail the wagon, doesn't that make brass most likely scum? But then if brass is scum, aren't there better uses for the vote that are more likely to succeed? So therefore brass is more likely town... etc.

It's an endless loop no matter where you start because you can always find something to 'disprove' whichever assumption you're at in the chain.

I think scum did it primarily to cause WIFOM. Why would scum want to create WIFOM now? That's hard to determine at this point in the game since we don't have enough information to go on for a reasonable analysis, so it's pointless to analyze the zombie vote right now.

The best way town can use the zombie is to dismiss it entirely. Letting the zombie influence wagons and thoughts is letting

scum

determine the game state.

wheeeeeeeeeee

[Ankamius]

And no, I didnt need Katyusha to lynch you. I was letting you wagon me to find your partners and then I had my claim to be safe. then I could cop someone tonight and get killed to send my two results to ank and the game would be PoEd out. It was over.

I am all ears. I can't exactly avoid you if I don't know who you are

just saw this game ended in a hilarious way.

ty for the game beefy <3

good to see you again mara <3 fun playing scum with you kokichi

ank <3

<3

[Ankamius]

Town are honorary victors I guess

[Ankamius]

To be fair, if I had been any other role in the game, I probably would have been heavily scum reading your claim.

I specifically avoided it because I was playing to get night killed, so I didn't want to top scum off that I had a death vig.

[Ankamius]

Bit awkward... The fact that you crept into that specific blind spot was the reason I was starting to go off base.

Sigh