Dance of the Title Fairy: Accepting Applications

[Kublai Khan]

If it made it through the process it should probably just be given.

KK where are you

I'm forever staying vigilante that shittier titles than mine shall never be approved.

(doot was close)

[Haschel Cedricson]

Doesn't our PM exchange count as completing the process?

[Psyche]

the process is completed once a title is given

it just would really put a bad taste in my mouth doing this after deus ex machina
like, there's a basic problem justifying a title nom by saying that it's identical to the name of a pop song: hardly any idiom is not the name of a pop song
is the song mr know it all so iconic that it stands out as a song to make references to in the same way smooth criminal or other noms are?
not to mention that the whole point of said pop reference was that it was in conflict with haschel's trivia knowledge and thus presumably also his interests/ knowhow
and without that, the title is just "haschel knows a lot of things", which is essentially nothing

i own that i screwed up not raising these issues then or implementing the title when i said i would,
but i think that just putting the title through now without even one second thought would be one more screw-up on top of these
if it's as good a title as what haschel deserves or i'm wrong to not hand it to him at this point, you'll probably be able to get the noms you need before tomorrow and you and i both will be happy about it
but i really think this is a good chance to brainstorm something before before something mediocre gets set in stone

[animorpherv1]

Psyche it already has enough votes in this thread so your entire argument makes no fucking sense

[Psyche]

they're now officially instead of just implicitly expired

[animorpherv1]

Explain to me why your mistake needs to be fixed by us becsuse that's also dumb and make no sense. It's your god damn mistake you fox it

[Psyche]

my mistake was letting the title get as far through as it did, and i'm fixing it right now by putting my foot down. this isn't a negotiation, sorry. i've made my decision.

[Cerberus v666]

Explain to me why your mistake needs to be fixed by us becsuse that's also dumb and make no sense. It's your god damn mistake you fox it

Yeah.

Does it really matter if they get more noms etc then, Psyche? If you fundamentally disagree with the title? What does getting it renommed blah blah actually accomplish?

[Psyche]

If it gets enough support again, I'll implement it. I've already said this. Why do I have to say it again?

[animorpherv1]

Because it's retarded to stop a title after it's already gone through orocedure and you know it?

[Cerberus v666]

my mistake was letting the title get as far through as it did, and i'm fixing it right now by putting my foot down. this isn't a negotiation, sorry. i've made my decision.

So....what is the mistake you made then? I'm not actually familiar with this situation at all, I just don't understand what differentiates this title from others, such that it requires an additional step.

[Cerberus v666]

Hell, I don't even know who Haschel is...it just seems to be a rather nonsensical decision, given my limited information.

[animorpherv1]

This isn't an additional step it's an entire fucking redo which isn't fair in any way

[Psyche]

If the title was always good and worthwhile, then title will get through. If not, then it should never have gotten through in the first place.
Rather than dumb, I think this is a straightforward way to factor in my concerns as title fairy about the nom without overruling the community's wishes.
If I'm wrong and being a dick, then the community can right my wrong very quickly with a quick flurry of posts. However, I think it's my job as title fairy to give noms I think are bad a hard time.
I believe I stumbled before in this role, and I don't think that commits me to stumbling again right now.

[Alchemist21]

So would you take away a bad title that went through?

Should every title go through a double-nomination process to make sure only the good ones go through?

I sill say straight up you're wrong and being a dick.

[Psyche]

I would not take away a bad title that went through. Titles that I have concerns about will always have more trouble getting through, and that's how it's always been.

And ani's been banned from the thread for 3 days for breaking the civility rule. Arguing with something I've cemented a decision about or calling me retarded is not going to get titles you like implemented. Bolded noms and nths will. As long as I'm title fairy, the community will always have the ultimate call over whether a title is implemented or not.

[Cerberus v666]

I would not take away a bad title that went through. Titles that I have concerns about will always have more trouble getting through, and that's how it's always been.

And ani's been banned from the thread for 3 days for breaking the civility rule. Arguing with something I've cemented a decision about or calling me retarded is not going to get titles you like implemented. Bolded noms and nths will.

Really? You give someone 24 hours to gather noms for a title, and then you BAN the person who originally nommed the title for 3 days, thereby ensuring that they won't be able to nom the title again?

[Alchemist21]

Have you even considered that some of us will just Nth it anyway because we feel it should already be there in the first place?

[Psyche]

When did I give him 24 hours to gather noms for a title? The title can re-nommed whenever anyone wants. It's my job to moderate this subforum.

[Psyche]

Have you even considered that some of us will just Nth it anyway because we feel it should already be there in the first place?

I've specifically said that they can several times since this discussion started. If you guys are going to respond to my posts, why don't you read them?

[Cerberus v666]

I think the point is that you're ignoring a human factor here.

Even if the title was TERRIBLE(which it may be, I don't know Haschel) the sheer injustice of the way you've chosen to handle this means that people who would otherwise not care or be opposed, will be inclined to support it...thereby negating the entire arbitrary process you've put in place for this particular title.

[Psyche]

you can feel free to nom it again, if it stands the test of time and people agree with you it should get an overwhelming amount of support

if it's as good a title as what haschel deserves or i'm wrong to not hand it to him at this point, you'll probably be able to get the noms you need before tomorrow and you and i both will be happy about it

If it gets enough support again, I'll implement it. I've already said this. Why do I have to say it again?

As long as I'm title fairy, the community will always have the ultimate call over whether a title is implemented or not.

[Psyche]

thereby negating the entire arbitrary process you've put in place for this particular title

which i would be totally fine with, please quickly get on with it

[Alchemist21]

Nom Haschel Cedricson for Mr. Know It All

[Haschel Cedricson]

Can I give thoughts on the title or is that bad form?