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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 1:24 am

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In post 1066, Iconeum wrote:No.

Look at Lovebird vs Lalendra. Love is easily more scummy then Lalendra. I know you have trouble pushing other birds, but put that aside for now.
We can make a deal. Help me push Love now, and if by the end of the day nothing comes of it we re-evaluate Lalendra (more content)
I'm no big fan of either but I slightly agree, at least Lal has had some longer posts right now. But as I said I'm not feeling either.
In post 1069, Mathdino wrote:right but does it matter

if town doesn't have them and scum makes bad shots, we can just lynch them

we have the leverage here. yeah they can use it as an extra kill, but they either remove people from the lynchpool or put themselves in the lynchpool come massclaim

leashing scum ftw
All true but do you hold it for possible scum picks it (tries to) just to keep it away from town?

Lal's wall posts on page 44 seem IIoA to me which meh
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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 1:30 am

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course i do. if they don't use it to decrease our lynchpool either tonight or tomorrow night (or N3 for N3 vig), we lynch them.

if someone claims vengeful, we lynch them.

if someone claims PGO, we question their sanity and probably lynch them.

and of course, if they make an unsafe shot, we lynch them.

used correctly, the vigs give us effectively one extra lynch, regardless of which alignment holds it.
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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 1:30 am

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also the current gamestate bores me

which is sad because this is gonna be the only game i'm in for a while
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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 1:35 am

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What do ppl consider the most bomb af scum role in this setup?
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 1:37 am

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In post 1088, Ircher wrote:.................................................................................What did you think about letting a cop check me N1 and lynching Janitor D1? (Although, it is not guaranteed we have a cop, but.........................................................)
Or having a cop check me and lynching you Day 1?v :idea: How does this argument make sense?
In post 1145, the worst wrote:I think ircher is probs town
It ain't impossible... But certain things don't sit well with me. This calls for an ISO read/skim sometime soon.
In post 1152, davesaz wrote:I'll place my vote where it seems to be useful for generating material to read from.
Hmmm I've been generating content while I had smaller wagons. Why not push Lalendra/Lovebird the same way? How do you see their activity or content?
In post 1167, Myloninja13 wrote:it's mostly A50's contributions that make me town read that slot.
Do you care to explain?
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 1:40 am

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Actually we shouldn't answer my question should we......
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 1:41 am

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In post 1177, Mathdino wrote:also the current gamestate bores me

which is sad because this is gonna be the only game i'm in for a while
Wagon Lalen with me for fun and profit?
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 1:41 am

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Sorry duckie but I don't think I'm the go to guy for setup discussion :(
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 1:44 am

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In post 2, yessiree wrote:Night 3 Vigilante OR Vengeful
1-Shot Vigilante OR 1-Shot PGO (active)
Cop OR 1-Shot Redirector
1-Shot Commuter OR 1-Shot Watcher
Doctor OR Roleblocker
Universal Backup OR Role Cop
Neighborizer OR Fruit Vendor
Jailkeeper OR Tracker
Best scum roles:
Cop, because it steals it from town and is green to Trackers, Rolecops, everything except "why are you still alive" in lategame.

Roleblocker/Jailkeeper, for obvious reasons.

Neighborizer, because scum neighborizers are laughably good and function as rolecops anyway.
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 1:47 am

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Thanks. :)
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 1:49 am

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In post 1085, Taly wrote:
Lalendra;

1)
What makes you comfortable with the
Ircher
vote?
2)
What do you think about the wagon that was on you?
3)
General readslist?
1) I already outlined all my reasons in my catch-up posts.
2) I also addressed this, but since more has happened, I'll say this: I'm not understanding ducky's tunneling on me, most of the other votes were because of lack of activity (NAI) and tone (my tone is inconsistent af, it depends entirely on my mood and not at all on my alignment). It's horseshit.
3) I'll post a readslist after this.
In post 1086, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 1081, Lalendra wrote:And in contrast with Mutant, I actually do think this is town!Math.
Can you clarify on what you mean by this?
I believe that Math's behavior this game is consistent with his town meta, unlike Mutant who feels that it isn't.
In post 1088, Ircher wrote: 13. In :
Lalendra wrote:...You literally posted an entire wall (much of which was "fair enough, null") and then two posts later everyone is either null or neutral (not sure I understand the need to separate those) except you (shocking) and one person whose "posts continue to not really be good". That's it?
First of all
, you do realize that the "notes" and the reads go hand-in-hand?
Second of all, did you try reading the second spoiler about how to read the reads list? You would know I separate Neutral and Null and while you may not agree with how I separate them, you should treat my neutral reads as more/less serious reads. (In other words, saying everyone is either null or neutral is a meaningless statement as the neutral reads aren't really a "no read" or even a "very weak read" thing; it just has to do with the level of confidence. Again, you don't have to agree with the system, but please try to acknowledge it.)
I wasn't saying that neutral and null meant the same thing in your readslist, I understand that they don't. I'm saying I don't understand the need to separate them. In that it seems nitpicky. Essentially yes, I understand the system you're using, I just don't agree with it. We're saying the same thing.
In post 1151, the worst wrote:Kinda eddie I think?

I am desperate to see the Lalen flip like. My sanity this game is starting to hinge on it
You may want to start at least considering an AU in which you believe I'm town and exploring how that would inform your gameplay because if I flip, you're going to need to start somewhere.
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 2:01 am

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I'm liking the janitor more now.

Unsure about the worst, I've never seen him play this tunnely before. It's usually something do myself as town, but not sure what it means for him. Anybody?

Just now reading Lalendra's sig, I'm very unsure about scum there
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 2:02 am

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If you do reads based on sig selfmeta we are not friends anymore
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 2:27 am

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Cool. What about the other stuff?
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 4:52 am

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I mean that mislynchable self thing is a wet dream for scum to have in a signature. Obviously Lalendra isn't scum because of it but scum would love to fall back on that.
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 4:55 am

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she benefits from it more often when she's town lol

i wouldn't call her scumgame especially top tier
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 5:28 am

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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 5:37 am

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In post 1135, Taly wrote:I want to hear why Ircher is a more worthy lynch than Lalendra, he's been more active and provided a lot of content.
Tbh I town lean Ircher atp. I so so badly want to lynch him on principle but unfortunately I'm too competitive for that :(
In post 1133, Ircher wrote:Okay, the Lalendra and Lovebird wagons need to consolidate into one wagon... I don't care if it is Lalendra or Lovebird that much, but I think I prefer the Lalendra wagon better tbh.
...why?
In post 1121, Ircher wrote:I honestly don't believe this.
I was too fwiw.
In post 1136, Ircher wrote:don't really like 931 either.
don't really like you but this is mafia not happily ever after... but,
In post 1145, the worst wrote:I think ircher is probs town
Discuss???

VOTE: lalendra
yea, agreed. Pretty okay reads list. Good conclusion cause I wrote the above before reading your post.
In post 1149, davesaz wrote:Caught up to end of 41. Taly looks town. Long name with lots of complicated ascii art and random words in CAPS looks town.
Lmao
In post 1151, the worst wrote:Kinda eddie I think?

I am desperate to see the Lalen flip like. My sanity this game is starting to hinge on it
excuse me?
In post 1154, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1152, davesaz wrote:Caught up, don't know how much I'll remember tomorrow after the cold meds wear off.
I have not had enough time to devote to actual reads other than the gut towns.
I'll place my vote where it seems to be useful for generating material to read from.
VOTE: The Janitor
How can you be caught up but not have reads/opinions? This post is the weakes excuse ever to sheep somewhere and appear active.

FOS davesav
hahaa newbie surface level reads are the best

In post 1161, Iconeum wrote:Haha, I REALLY don't know where I quoted that from... I was only reading the last 3 pages so I wasn't even near that timestamp... Ignore it completely plz. Lovebird went south after that, so I don't mind the tr at that point.

So eh, wanna hop on the Lovebird wagon? I hear it's awesome this time of year
can relate
In post 1164, Myloninja13 wrote:I finially caught up and I think I've got some basic townreads here?

I think The Worst, Math and A50/dave are all town, and I town lean Saske and Eddie. They've all made good contributions to the game.
I don't know if the good contributions applies to a50 slot but yea its a townie slot.

In post 1165, the worst wrote:Thats... Not great reasoning but you picked a good set of people!!
this haha
In post 1177, Mathdino wrote:also the current gamestate bores me

which is sad because this is gonna be the only game i'm in for a while
welcome to playing mafia on a site with retardedly long deadlines and a stupid playerbase that doesn't understand hammering someone after a couple days is better for town in the long run
In post 1186, Iconeum wrote:I'm liking the janitor more now.
Can't relate. why?
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 5:38 am

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there's a lot of shit town slots tbh

not too many overtly scummy ones

feels too easy

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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 5:43 am

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In post 1120, the worst wrote:If I ger my lalendra lynch today I will buy drinks for the entire wagon
I don't like alcohol. It's fitting because I don't like the reasons for lynching Lalendra either.
I mostly just lurk now.
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 5:44 am

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In post 1122, Ircher wrote:Oh, and Eddie waiting until immediately after to vote, like...? Couldn't you've voted me way earlier? (Like before I self-voted?) What made you suddenly decide to vote me?
How is this a question when the answer is damn obvious?
I mostly just lurk now.
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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 5:44 am

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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 5:47 am

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In post 1138, Mathdino wrote:like i said, i'm saving my vote for the autohammer
consider me on ircher

VOTE: Janitor
Why do you feel like your vote NEEDS to be the hammer?

I mean, you'll give him time to claim right?
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 5:48 am

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VOTE: Lalendra

the wagon on lovebird isn't picking up steam, and I'm okay with this too.
No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 5:55 am

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In post 1178, the worst wrote:What do ppl consider the most bomb af scum role in this setup?
I can do you better, I KNOW the bomb af scum roles. I don't wish to disclose them though.
I mostly just lurk now.
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