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I'm very happy to replace here, since there's definitely value to be gained from dissecting the votes on my slot - I am very much a townie."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Note to self while reading - is Hopkirk one of them?In post 139, Hopkirk wrote:I could see the 5 person arc wagon there being town."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Feels like a weird opener.In post 152, CheekyTeeky wrote:Hopkirk and Srceenplay do you stand by your vig claims? If so I'm not lynching either and you can sort out who is lying tonight unless scum RB also exists then glgl us. Gun to my head srceenplay is likely scum of the two. Claiming an SK and vig in a 10p game is beyond lolworthy.
As Arc feels like the likeliest scum at the time of this post, this could be a buddy softbussing but not cementing the read. (has the keywordsIn post 152, CheekyTeeky wrote:Arc seems overly frustrated but I think that would be easier to read in real time rather than in hindsight.butandwould be)
This feels like the starting point for the wagon on my slot.In post 152, CheekyTeeky wrote:Anyway top suspects are Arc, Alice, Srceenplay but I'm not lynching Srceenplay today."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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After saying that Arc and Srceen are both suspects for them, but they are NOT lynching Srceen D1?In post 155, CheekyTeeky wrote:Why is Arc scummier than Srceenplay?
Scummmmmmmmm."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Good man!
I have a townvibe from you so far in my read-through, and I feel even better about my read on Cheeky now."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Since you are #3 in my list for potential scum, shoot either Cheeky or Arc.In post 164, Hopkirk wrote:oh damn who do i shoot
Approved.In post 165, Hopkirk wrote:Maybe Cheeky?
Fine by me too, but I'd prefer you would narrow the scumpool for me..!In post 171, Hopkirk wrote:I'm also considering NM/Imbad/TheWorst, as I said earlier I kind of just want to shoot a low poster."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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While I agree, I think we don't need any more claims assuming yours is truthful..In post 172, Hopkirk wrote:I'm not a fan of lolhammers, especially preclaim.
I know I'm reading from behind, but please don't..In post 173, CheekyTeeky wrote:Arc claim please?
I don't think this is genuine.In post 176, CheekyTeeky wrote:It's more about getting Arc to interact and ensuring we don't lolhammer a PR as there has been stated interest to do so.
In a 10p game, I'd say this is the towny approach to it.In post 177, Tchill13 wrote:I'd say at least let ark answer the questions about her wagon.
No idea what is the point of this..? Oh wait, get that wagon on me rolling?In post 180, CheekyTeeky wrote:VOTE: Srceenplay
I'm fine with Arc not claiming if noone intends to hammer. Cough *alice*
"Shot the same target" - "Got blocked/Kill healed". In a 10p game, scum only needs a few days of delay..In post 185, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm assuming you're referring to my asking for a claim from Arc. If you're referring to Hopkirk that's ridiculous as his claim is self-resolving and would be suicide SOD."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Srceen is almost surely town here, based on his tone in a few of his previous games..In post 188, the worst wrote:Oof I'm not townreading Srceen this time
Arc Srceen or Cheeky are seeming scummiest to me. N_M is null as shit. Others can be townleans, no one strikes me as super towny yet.
Agree on Arc and Cheeky though, so good ducky there!
Would scum!Cheeky be ballsy enough to talk about their buddy this much though?In post 189, CheekyTeeky wrote:Why am I scummy? Why is Arc scummy?
This makes me feel better about still having scum in Hopkirk/ArcAngel, but not together.In post 191, ArcAngel9 wrote:You have never explained your reason to town read LOVE. You just you read him as town. It doesn't make any sense. She contributed nothing to the game apart from a BIG mouth. So how could you read her town until unless your faction tells tht she is.
VOTE: Hopkrik
So I'm still looking at Cheeky+either one.
Good job on this.In post 191, ArcAngel9 wrote:No. I wont claim. If this town this dumb enough to lynch someone so early without strong reads. So be it. Role claiming on day 1 narrow things for mafia. I hate it."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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This post screams scum!Arc as a partner for Cheeky to me.. While she started by saying that she doesn't want Srceen lynched today, she is now seemingly pushing him over Arc.In post 198, CheekyTeeky wrote:Yeah Arc/Srceenplay could be a thing. I don't like how she keeps asking him about the claim and makes nothing of it - voting TChill instead who is the towniest player SOD. Her reason for voting TChill is counterintuitive and makes no sense. All her pushes seem to be on Low Hanging fruit.
I don't want Arc lynched with so much time on the clock though. Consider my vote there is spirit.
That is why he is only #3 in order..In post 209, Tchill13 wrote:Lol hop is the only one sorting in a reasonable manner I'm not sure why you'd call him scum.
I'd call him a good scum if he flips that then?
It's just what people in this site do.In post 214, Lovebird wrote:Idk why people just call me terrible every game. I didn't even do anything this time.
If you keep being genuine with the way that you play and read, your own style will evolve and shine through.
I still suck at this game, but almost everyone who has played more than a few games with me, are now able to understand how I reach my own conclusions (whether right or wrong), and therefore are more accurate in sorting me too.
Good of you to notice..
Yea, two townies agreeing on something!In post 222, CheekyTeeky wrote:*notes Alice/Love association*
I know you feel the same thing that I do!
Actually disagree on this, but we'll see.In post 230, Lovebird wrote:Btw, reread the duck. He can still be scum.
Astute observation btw! I didn't think of the whole replace-out -angle.. I just think her need to push my slot over Arc (and obv. herself) is incriminating enough..In post 234, Lovebird wrote:If you two are scum together, you don't forget the replacement thing. Don't think it's faked? When I've seen things like this before they're never faked.
So many of us seem to agree on this, so maybe we go there now that I'm here?In post 236, Tchill13 wrote:gun to my head ark and cheeky are most likely to be scum atm.
Yes, this.In post 241, Lovebird wrote:
He has scummy style I think, so lots is NAI.In post 239, CheekyTeeky wrote:Why is everyone blind to srceenplay?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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+In post 256, Hopkirk wrote:Can you explain your Screen/Cheeky reads?
Such a quick townbin on my #1 scumread never feels good..In post 257, Hopkirk wrote:Cheeky can be town.
Bolding my own - the question seems..redundant?In post 258, Hopkirk wrote:who's the second?Why shouldn't someone claim if they're on L1 with possible intent to hammer?
Any thoughts on Alice sort of wanting to hammer?
In post 258, Hopkirk wrote:
more good stuffIn post 242, CheekyTeeky wrote:It's legitimately bs that he has been here the whole day and I have a handful of content and get insta scumread.
...how is that good stuff?
This list makes Hopkirk/Cheeky seem more likely than not again..In post 261, Hopkirk wrote:Townpool: Love/Cheeky/Tchill/The worst
Potential town or potential scum: Screen/Alice
Null: Havo/NM
Scummy: Arc
Also wondering why there's a separate bracket for "null" and "Potential town or potential scum"..
..and I'm guessing she will not have a chance to answer this before flaking?In post 262, Hopkirk wrote:VOTE: Alice
What are those extremely scummy things you mentioned earlier for both me and Arc?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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+In post 266, Srceenplay wrote:
Is this still a thing?In post 260, Hopkirk wrote:@Screen: are you retracting the vig claim yet.
If town thinks I’m vig they have nothing to worry about.
If scum thinks I’m vig they better watch out because I’m shooting them.
+In post 267, Hopkirk wrote:Who's your scum/shootpool?=MASTAPIIS.
I love me some Srceen.
I think you have similar hunches as I had.In post 270, Havo wrote:Could Hop/screen be scum theatre? Just putting it here for later reference maybe.
Screen being very defiant, hop has a town feel.
The difference seems to be that I have a solidish townread on Srceen because of "meta" and such, and I feel like Hop is actually the one causing a flaw in tone...or whatever it is that pings me as scum.
Arc has given scummy vibes to almost everyone in here, there's no disregarding that.In post 270, Havo wrote:Arc working too hard this early, Tchill & NM’s votes on Hop look shady.
I'd say N_M and Chill both have a tendency not to care who they vote and when, if they feel like doing it.
The uncanny ability to be around to place a L-1 or hammer- vote on D1!
Arc or Hop I'd say.In post 282, Lovebird wrote:From wagon looks like cheeky only scumpartner is arc or worst anyways.
...a total contradiction on what you said previously..In post 283, Lovebird wrote:I guess Alice could be cheeky partner too.
Posted on the same minute as the above..a scum slipping and trying to rectify, or just felt the need to clarify?In post 284, Lovebird wrote:Just from vote timing, that is. Still had that thing from earlier.
DISLIKE.In post 292, Hopkirk wrote:I'd like it publically known that I'm not a fan of lolhammers on players who flip town.
Cheeky is probably town.
I'll ask him nicely, if you promise not to try and mislynch me too!In post 296, CheekyTeeky wrote:NM will you stop effing mislynching me?
Where are you going with this?In post 297, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ugh now to find who started this. Hold up.In post 298, CheekyTeeky wrote:Oh it's Havo/Alice"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I was just wondering how to format my appreciation for it too, but you had already bundled them!In post 335, Tchill13 wrote:In post 329, CheekyTeeky wrote:Oh you idiot. Omg you lynched a townie!!!
Lol you get 0/10 for that fake hammer. But thanks for confirming you're likely town for trying.
This is my favorite sequence of posts I've ever seen on site.In post 331, Lovebird wrote:Reaction test over.
Not the worst, but a bad vote at this time..
Please don't.In post 347, Hopkirk wrote:How about we disband the Cheeeky wagon before someone gets hurt.
Hate the idea that you are so careless, as long as it's not Cheeky..In post 349, Hopkirk wrote:Alice, back to Arc, try your luck on NM. Whatever.
This seems as plain a bundle of posts I've ever seen, of one having a consistent tone with a clear agenda, while the other is only trying to misrep and shade.In post 356, Havo wrote:
I have no other reason to scum read you. Why would I push anything else?In post 355, CheekyTeeky wrote:
Yeah except clearly you don't. There are better ways to get people to scum read me, like how you're doing now, sadly you've mistimed it so it doesn't look genuine. It just looks like you're trying to cover your ass.In post 346, Havo wrote:I know an over reaction to pressure when I see one. Doesn’t matter if I’ve never played with someone.
I made my point weather you agree or not. You are not above being sorted. Period.
Why are you scared of being sorted? I welcome it. Townies should always welcome it.
This would still keep all the options open, assuming scum!Hop would be paired with scum!Cheeky that is. Assuming town!Hopkirk, it is VERY important to note that their stubbornness on Cheeky could end up costing us later if she doesn't eat rope today..In post 367, Hopkirk wrote:Havo: Alice or Arc?
I see that your break from this game has been most unbeneficial for town..!
Yeah, you really lost your touch here man!
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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..and you are being accurate here.In post 401, Lovebird wrote:Idk why you're all scumreading Alice. Strong reads? Doesn't seem scummy
...and unaccurate here. I guess it's easier from my POV, being the one catching up on a one big read-through, I think it's clear that Srceen has been themselves early game (I'd call it "surface-level scummy"), and yet still had accurate reads.
Your town-read on Havo seems to be correct too, trust that later.
I too, think the worst has been towny so far. Or at least they haven't been very scummy!
This, or Cheeky. But seeing as I'm most confident on her, we should lynch her D1, and move on from there.In post 408, the worst wrote:Like really the issue is we need to see what happens with Arc's slot
That is not what is happening here! You have it all upside down - you had it the right way around before you voted my slot!In post 409, Srceenplay wrote:Look at scum stone walling the Alice wagon.
0%, swear it on my grannys baggy panties.In post 410, Havo wrote:What’s the percentage Alice flips scum?
^^directed at Cheeky.In post 419, ArcAngel9 wrote:You come from me being scum to IDK? sounds oppurtunist.
Bless you for this.In post 420, ArcAngel9 wrote:After reading today...I think Tchill, love bird are my strong town reads
Cheeky and hove are my strong scum reads
Hopkrick may be town or sucm
theworst is null
Alice i am not sure. the wagon doesn't look compromising. I need her to come back and talk more.
Not Mafia usually more active as town, this odd trolling behavior is worrying me a bit.
VOTE: Cheeky or i am good with Hove too.
So we lynch in Cheeky/Arc and solve the game from there now.
Presto manifesto.
Heavy disagreement for Srceen wouldn't likely even be in it if they hadn't been inactive with the game for a while..In post 423, Hopkirk wrote:Alice wagon is made up well atm.
Hop isn't lynched today, but I'm still a poor alternative. Go Cheeky/Arc.In post 428, Tchill13 wrote:Hey arc hopkirk isn't getting lynched today. It'd be nice if you hopped on the Alice wagon.
THIS. IS.In post 429, Not_Mafia wrote:Why should you, Havo and Hopkirk sway the whole town?SPARTACONTENT?!?! N_M, I think I'm finally getting to understand you. Not just in this game, but in general."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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This post from Chill returned my hope for mankind.In post 434, Tchill13 wrote:I've played multiple games with havo and I've yet to see him find a suitable style for day 1. Sometimes he scum hunts. Sometimes he hammers first wagon. Sometimes he lurks.He's a multiple day read.Not willing to lynch day 1 because as town he's a help.
NM is a multiple day read. He's better than he let's on. Why he trolls and lurks I could not tell you.Of the multiple day reads I'm willing to lynch him the most.
Hopkirk is a great asset to town if he's town.One of the only people that can play transparently town.Vig claiming day 1 is questionable solely because of the claim but I'm not lynching him today.
Screen is a multiple day read also. I've seen him help town too. Not lynching him today.
I could lynch cheekyor Alice.
Probably wouldn't lynch worst or love today.They don't give me scum tingles like the other two.
Ark is lean scum btw.
PLEASE NOTE: I BOLDED EVERYTHING IN THAT POST THAT I AGREED WITH.
Arc/Cheeky = 10/10.In post 437, Tchill13 wrote:Best case scenario we lynch one you shoot the other.
Good.
No idea what happened here. This is either scum doing lots of heavy lifting, or I really need to research people like this too..In post 445, Hopkirk wrote:Did the analysis of Tchill. Assuming the games I looked at are still relevant to his playstyle, the difference was substantial enough that I think I can tell his alignment with 90%ish accuracy.
Doing it semi-manually, so my arm is kind of hurting and i haven't actually looked at how it compares to this game yet.
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Measuring a specific set of metrics on a scale. They were at 39/36/36 in the three towngames and 14/19 in the two scumgames.
Results above 50 or below 10 should not occur I think.
All I know of him is the usual " \o/ " and his alt that was something like GameReplacement or something. He was scum with Boon, and I managed to be in a winning town against them! (was my first normal-game, my first PR on site, and my first win!)In post 452, Tchill13 wrote:Talk about a blast from the past. I enjoyed playing with that player named vedith. It's been so long I forgot his name but I learned a good amount from him.
Ech. Pockettó.In post 453, Hopkirk wrote:Anyway, this game gave a result of 41. Given I was already townreading you, and remembered some meta points while doing it, we're Best-friends (the mason style) now.
I think I'll start stalking you from now on. You have a gift for making obvious statements that others seem to miss.In post 460, Lovebird wrote:Why is alice wagon growing but she's not even here?
I'd say this is the best possible lynchpool if I had to 50/50 it. You should try and take more names out of it before days end though. My personal preference would be to strike out Srceen and Havo for D1 too, but if I had to pick 5/10 for D1, this would likely be my list too.In post 465, Lovebird wrote:Not_Mafia
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ArcAngel9
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Tchill13
Hopkirk
I think this looks good."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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...and then your back to this???In post 470, Lovebird wrote:Cheeky Alice works as scumteam actually.
Wasn't that a replacement??? An honest mistake, or another careful attempt at shading?In post 476, Hopkirk wrote:Would first time scum Havo avoid RVS intentionally?
Yet again, the bolded makes it a 100% contradiction with what you said earlier..In post 477, Lovebird wrote:Ok, I guess I could lynch cheeky today.I only think alice is scum if cheeky is scum, so makes more sense to me to lynch cheeky first.
And, if I die, don't ignore the duck.
Sad but true.In post 483, Tchill13 wrote:Hey you know what'd be nice? If we caught one scum instead of trying to catch teams
This post was otherwise good, but I think you have the wagon on my slot interpreted upside down. And no wonder since the game seems to have stalled almost completely. But I think the solution is in the phase where you guys were pushing for Arc/Cheeky. I have a feeling that Arc was going to be mislynch after all, and Cheeky was a genuine, towny wagon. The wagon on my slot has been a very slow counterwagon to it, but it isn't as plain to see because it has taken a longish time to develop.In post 487, Tchill13 wrote:The resistance to the Alice wagon is the havo push.
It's easier to see from my PoV, and with the luxury of reading the game on one sitting.
Me neither.In post 489, Lovebird wrote:Still don't know why people scumreading alice.
Mmhmm.In post 490, CheekyTeeky wrote:I don't want alice lynched until we get a replacement it's pretty simple logic really.
Yet another, amazingly astute observation! I wouldn't have even noticed this if you hadn't brought it up.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Towny boyscout over here.In post 503, the worst wrote:I don't wanna burn Alice for some reason.
They aren't though..In post 506, the worst wrote:also I hate how few townreads I have this game.
Cheeky is getting better though
Scummyscummy scumscum.In post 507, CheekyTeeky wrote:I've already said I'm overgamed so expect a shitty game from me for a while. I'll kick ass if I make it past N1 so I'm worth keeping around plus we should try to lynch scum today, not me.
Not even a little.In post 516, CheekyTeeky wrote:TChill so scum.
This post is absolutely correct. But. I hand out an exception to myself.In post 523, Tchill13 wrote:I don't understand why we're focused on preflip associations. It makes scum hunting much harder on the day with the least amount of information we'll have.
Focus on one. It's much easier.
People can easily talk themselves out of a scum association due to the fact sometimes players don't associate as scum like people think they would.
Cheeky went from one team. Dropped a player. Added a whole new player. Dropped a player.
It's almost like puzzle pieces.
While doing a catch-up, I find it a LOT easier to keep everything coherent in my head, when I sort of "lock-on" (tunnel) to an early scumvibe.
It often starts with something very small, but I try to stick to it.
I had such feelings especially for Arc/Cheeky, but also a point or two for scum!Hop.
While I've been reading the game and posting my thought process along the way, I tend to observe all of my reads from the perspective of "do they fit with X as scum?" with X being my top scumread at the time.
This often helps me realize more easily how wagons are formed etc. but it definitely doesn't stop me from altering and evolving my reads along the road.
Like in this game, Cheeky and Hop have both risen in my eyes as scum-candidates, while Arc has actually gotten closer to the null-line.
Simultaneously I've been able to find solidish townreads for multiple slots, including you, Srceen, Havo, N_M, Lovebird and the worst.
And what do you know?
Thats 7/10 with me included (obv.), and therefore my 3 scumleans are also my 3 "least townreads".
And that means that I'm satisfied with my reads, until proven wrong.
According to page-numbers I'm getting to status quo..why aren't we lynching her yet?In post 524, Havo wrote:So this is Cheeky setting up her excuse when she lynches a townie.
This is not a townie who’s being objective. At all.
Your entire argument for me being scum is OMGUS.
Ah, what a brilliant way to simplify my rant from above!In post 530, the worst wrote:ok but imo if you see a player associating with others and think
p1/p2 = there is scum in this conversation
p1/p3 = there is scum in this conversation
p1/p4 = there is scum in this conversation
so forth
it's perfectly natural for town to conclude that p1 is likely to be scum yeah?
And here I am.In post 540, Nero Cain wrote:UnaBombaH replaces AliceRaider45 effective as soon as he posts. I've added an extra day to the deadline.
One last post after this with a vote included, and I'm ready to sleep.. But no worries, I'll be most active if you decide to keep me around, so no more solo-posting and spamming from me after the next one!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Thanks!In post 541, the worst wrote:welcome Una!
Thanks! L-1 too, I think?
Please don't hammer before reading my catch-up and engaging me.
I WILL NOT CLAIM HOWEVER, SO IF THAT IS ALL ANYONE IS AFTER, HAMMER AWAY AND FACE THE MUSIC TOMORROW.
Thanks!
I hope we are buddies (I think we are), and you really mean this!
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...and the rest is me spamming my catchup.
I'M WILLING TO LYNCH EITHER OF MY 2/3 SCUMLEANS - HOPKIRK OBVIOUSLY EXCLUDED BECAUSE OF THE VIG-CLAIM.
VOTE: Cheeky
I'd especially like for Srceen/Hop/the worst to give their comments on my reads and catchup.
No need to mass-quote or wall, just put it into your own words.
The thing is though, that I really need you to read my posts with thought for this to work..
-Off to bed now!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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5 days is nothing in the grand scheme of life."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Interesting.
Just to make sure btw - I found it very likely that Hop wouldn't be able to produce a confirmable shot for us.
No need to drench it all in wine, but whether the vig or scum, I thought it obvious we wouldn't have to deaths tonight."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Care to explain the bolded?In post 686, the worst wrote:Given the player base I am not surprised there was only one kill butHop checks out."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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And what game is this in reference to?In post 686, the worst wrote:I have this nostalgic feeling about vig shots failing on me n1....... *glance @ una*"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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This is what I meant.In post 689, Hopkirk wrote:Roleblocking seems more likely.
Roleblockers are so common on scum nowadays it seems, that claiming vig D1 is often a waste of power."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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What is, and why?In post 696, Hopkirk wrote:That is really bad phrasing Una."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'm not sure where to push.
I felt confident with my read on Cheeky, but was wrong.
Now I'm thinking one of my townreads will have to be wrong too.
Will make clarifying comments tomorrow when it's my day off.
The NK doesn't make sense, and makes Hops Vig-claim look worse IMO, but I'll think about it."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Wow, read my mind..
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I think this is somewhat flawed.In post 731, Tchill13 wrote:I didn't expect his shot to go through due to the fact he was the only PR that claimed.Screen cc'd and LIED as town, which I hate, but it seems that he may have drawn the NK, idk why else he would have been killed, so we lucked out on that.
Out of the two of them Srceen is the one who retracted the claim.
Hopkirk didn't, and in fact talked about who his shot would be all the time.
I am, however, giving Hop the benefit of the doubt for today, and assume he was RB'd then, but then that confirms Srceen as a scumkill.. (I mean, I know there's likely no alternative anyway)
Scum would only ever shoot Srceen in this game for one of two reasons - their reads were worryingly good(?), or they thought he was actually a PR.(??)
I for one can't believe he was actually ever considered a PR-threat after claiming Vig D1 (even if he retracted), so I guess at least one of his scumreads must've been good, or one of his SOLID TOWNREADS WAS BAD.
Now, from my PoV, this sort of streamlines things, asSrceen only ever voted for Cheeky(town), me(town) and Arc.
VOTE: Arc"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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How do you make it so hard for us guys..?
I really need to tryhard if I want to sort Chill/Havo/the worst correctly, don't I?
Please try to towntell guys.
I propose everyone makes an oldfashioned readslist with no more than 1-2 in the same bracket.
I'll do one myself too."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Good on you wurst.
I'm trying to understand why I'm on so many lyncpools.
Guess it's because I wanted Cheeky lynched? Or?
Like, assuming scum!me, and the effort I wanted to put into this game when replacing in, you guys think Cheeky was the "easiest" or the "least suspicious" push I could've gone for?
I think scum will surely be on the lynch, and were also on my slot at some time or another.
I know the above is very heavy on WIFOM, sorry for that.
Will compensate with a straightforward list later."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Like, I have a tingling feeling Chill is the read I had wrong. I thought about the Cheeky-flip, and had a realization during the night.
I wanted to see his list before putting any more pressure there, but I think his list has his buddy in the upper brackets."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Not agreeing here though.In post 849, the worst wrote:Una I think you're great but the time put into this post woulda been better spent on a rudimentary read list
I can whip up a list based on my current feelings any time now, but I'm a few pages behind in reading, and can't format properly with my phone.
Current thoughts:
Love, N_M
Havo
The worst
Hop, Arc
Chill"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Very convenient that I'm scum after I'm the only one who scumleans Hop.In post 852, Tchill13 wrote:Very convenient you think I was the wrong read after I shined the light on an UNA/?.? Scum team pushing for a quick havo lynch.
Very convenient for scum!Una that I'm the designated lynch after Cheekys flip.
Very convenient that I'm not lynching Havo today??"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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In what way??In post 854, Tchill13 wrote:Thanks for making my case easier for me UNA.
Oh Chill, my man, I think this is the second time I will call you and your team down D2.
I just hope this isn't the second time I get shot at night by a scum fakeclaiming vig."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I just realized Chill votes on Havo himself..In post 852, Tchill13 wrote:Scum team pushing for a quick havo lynch."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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VOTE: Tchill
I think I'm ready to vote here.
I feel confident that his buddy is in the upper brackets of his readslist."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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In post 865, Tchill13 wrote:I wouldn't get ahead of yourself with the pride UNA. I'm pretty sure you lost the game you actually got it right didn't you?
I remember the loss..In post 859, UnaBombaH wrote:I just hope this isn't the second time I get shot at night by a scum fakeclaiming vig."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I just am quite certain you are scum.In post 870, Tchill13 wrote:So am I scum because of someone else's actions here or?
It's hard to explain to anyone else right now, but if I said that you give off a similar vibe to Blessed Mafia, I wouldn't be stretching the result of my realization too far."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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This pretty much confirms scum!Hop with scum!Chill IMO.In post 867, Tchill13 wrote:You're not the only one that's saying hop could be scum... I said it too. I'll vote the guy rn I don't really care. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one that brought up the fake claim argument in detail. My gut says he's town.
The epitome of a 50/50 read.
Furthermore: I thought I was rather open with my suspicions on Hops claim. Go ISO me if you're doubtful."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Heh, I tried to softly fake a copguilty on you Chill.
Don't know what to say or do anymore here, since it seems like no one is acting on these.
I might need to reread again, but after failing on Cheeky it's hard to find motivation for it.
I think it's a toneread that Chill is scum.
I can't probably ever explain it sufficiently to you guys, but it feels plain to me.
Therefore I'd rather be lynched today than tomorrow, if we don't lynch in Hop/Chill."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I don't think N_M is mafia here, similarly how I thought Srceen was obv.town. (#meta or whatever)
Arc CAN be scum, I thought so yesterday too, but I feel that Hop is almost surely scum.
This is more of a "mechanical" read, since I feel like
A) his Vig-claim D1 wasn't towny
B) his N1-result was lackluster (although I knew it would be, ahead of time)
C) outside of his claim, he hasn't been massively towny either. (but then again, we have very few obvious townies in game at all)
This means that it's a pairing of Hop+? for me.
Like I said at the start of the day, Arc would've made sense based solely on D1 votes and wagons, when looking for someone who had reasons to kill Srceen, but I think you might have had a motivation for that too.
I think Srceen might be able to tell your scumgame apart from your towngame, so he would've been a threat."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Lovebird might be the only "locktown" for me this game left though.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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The worst CAN go either way in the end, but for now I'd call them town for sure."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Havo isn't a very familiar player to me, so I can't sort them as easily as I feel like I can with you/N_M/Srceen.
I think Havo is the one with the most surprise-potential, but I don't see them as scum as of now..
Maybe I should just succumb to the pressure and we lynch him today, but I assume there's very little to no chance tomorrow isn't a MyLo though?
And I don't want to be alive tomorrow unless we lynch in Chill/Hop/Arc today."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I just think we are left in the toughest possible MyLo if we lynch in N_M/Havo today. (unless I'm mistaken with one/both of them )"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Oi, N_M.
I know you rarely make exceptions when posting, but could you like...TRY...to...um....give some reasonings?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Had to make sure redirections are under the "explicitly Non-Normal" -category still..
I wonder why Hop didn't claim the Srceen-kill."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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+1 for the GG-reference."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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BUT THEN THERE's THE PROBLEM OF ME NOT ACTUALLY WANTING TO LYNCH HAVO!!!In post 920, Tchill13 wrote:Very easy for scum! Una to see if they can lynch cheeky day 1 they can lynch havo day 2. Wouldn't you agree?
It feels like you're trying slide this narrative by every chance ypu get.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I mean, this is what I had to do to get you on the trenches.
VOTE: Hopkirk - Chill is back to town if this hits scum. If this hits town, we are fucked anyway."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I trust my instinct that you wouldn't buss Hop D2 in this situation. Not with MyLo still very much achievable for you D3.In post 935, Tchill13 wrote:why am i town now without the mention of worst being the scum partner with hop?
So if Hop flips scum, you are good to go.
If Hop flips town, you are still one of my main suspects."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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10p games feel very..."tight" for town.
I mean, we can only miss twice and we are in MyLo already.
This is assuming no saves or guilties.
By play alone, I feel like a smaller game might benefit town since there's simply less interactions to analyze.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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^^just a personal thought/rant above - feel free to disagree and disregard."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Unless I'm "slipping", a town-"perspecive", I'M not slipping..In post 943, Hopkirk wrote:I think this is a is is a perspecive slip.
I'll explain why when I'm not on my phone (definitely tonight)."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Can I get your reasoning on this!?In post 942, the worst wrote:In post 931, UnaBombaH wrote:
BUT THEN THERE's THE PROBLEM OF ME NOT ACTUALLY WANTING TO LYNCH HAVO!!!In post 920, Tchill13 wrote:Very easy for scum! Una to see if they can lynch cheeky day 1 they can lynch havo day 2. Wouldn't you agree?
It feels like you're trying slide this narrative by every chance ypu get..
ty. VOTE: UnaIn post 934, UnaBombaH wrote:I mean, this is what I had to do to get you on the trenches.
VOTE: Hopkirk - Chill is back to town if this hits scum. If this hits town, we are fucked anyway.
Like, I think worst is town and then he comes up with a badly fake setup-analysis and an even worse vote.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Town often do this when they tunnel.In post 946, the worst wrote:You just accused tch of forcing a narrative then voted someone else so....??"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I missed this part, and I'm not very good at setups myself, BUT I think 7v3 would be so swingy (especially with a speculated vig) and unbalances to boot..In post 947, the worst wrote:Particularly the latter, I really wanna talk through this shit because I have no experience with closed Normals.
I also asked people for their thoughts and feedback. Everyone ignored it which is w/e but you actually actively called it bad without acknowledging me asking for feedback so
Scum motivation+++
Like, that is why I speculated the part about 10p games in general - even 8-2 seems "easier" for scum imo.
Newbie games are semi-open which helps narrow things down a bit.
I think 8-2 with a goon+RB seems likely."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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After a bit more pondering, I've come even further with the decision that I want Hop lynched today.
Scum!Hop would clear Chill for me, and possibly fit scum!worst as a buddy after all (??).
On the other hand, town!Hop would scuminate Chill and in the contrast clear the worst for me.
I feel comfortable drawing these associations."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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@arc, havo, N_M, Lovebird - I hope you guys catch up and then communicate as clearly as possible who you are willing to vote as lynch today. Even better if you are willing to actually switch your vote, and see where the lines are drawn then.
I think it will help us greatly, if not today, then tomorrow."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I do not know what Hop means with those numbers, but apparently they make someone town, and someone scum..?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Um...anyone else see this being posted into the scum-PT?In post 972, Hopkirk wrote:Hard defending before anyone attacks me is kind of eh. Setting the tone might have value, but it's auto-lose if people intend to attack me since TW was posting early today."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Like, before people jump off their seats - I mean that it's easily misinterpretable as a slip in to the wrong thread, not that it necessarily is!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I said I meant it as a joke, no need to worry!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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