Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)
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I wasn't voting because I wasn't caught up to the game. I do think the nonvotes outside of me and Assembler are interesting.
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Interesting as in I'm interested into knowing why they were not votingIn post 922, Joey_ wrote:
Interesting in which capacityIn post 921, Jodaxq wrote:I wasn't voting because I wasn't caught up to the game. I do think the nonvotes outside of me and Assembler are interesting.
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I was in the middle of a catchup when I quoted and answered a post that was addressed to me. Ranmaru asked a question that had not been answered so I reiterated it.In post 924, Joey_ wrote:Chara and myself were voting and fosing the IC, we both unvoted then I fosed Varsoon who made a mistake he aknowledge, so i gave botd and unvoted. Whats your problem with non-voting people, would you prefer i place a vote im not confident in?
pedit: then read the game and dont half-shade people not voting
Right before this post Marshy makes a call to all of those on wagons with single votes. He says it's basically the same as nonvoting. Why are you calling me out in specific for wanting to address non voters?- Jodaxq
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I am caught up now, yes.In post 939, Chara wrote:hey Kiana! <3
Joda: are you caught up yet? because it looks like you've just glanced at whoever isn't voting to ask a question that can be answered by reading the game.
also 925 is bad.
Ranmaru's post was the only post (unless I missed one which is entirely possible) that asked me a question directly. That is why I responded to it. I am still having internet issues and I'm having to do this completely on my phone, so I am not going to do a hyper post catch up.- Jodaxq
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I am willing to discuss why I am town.In post 940, brassherald wrote:Can we discuss why Joda is not town?- Jodaxq
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As I said I've been without internet. Like literally no access to a computer with internet. I didn't even log into the site yesterday. I have an appointment with a technician tomorrow and will hopefully be back up and running then.In post 1509, brassherald wrote:Jodaxq is in this game?
I literally forgot she was.
Nero, from the normal that is still being discussed, do you remember if Jodaxq lurked around during the shitshow that was day 1?- Jodaxq
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I've been skimming through this morning before work so I'm sure I've missed stuff. I saw a lot of debate about which resolutions Brass and Titus should pick and I know which options were available. I know the two resolutions we're voting onIn post 1532, Chara wrote:i believe you about the internet, Joda, but are you keeping up with recent posts?- Jodaxq
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Once I have internet I will absolutely have zero problems keeping upIn post 1535, brassherald wrote:Kiana and Joda are going to have a rough time keeping up with this one.
We're getting past 100 pages Day 1, boyos!- Jodaxq
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Did anything else happen to you last night?In post 1947, brassherald wrote:I can confirm A50 did spread Taoism to me, was waiting until someone mentioned that if at all.
Also, I KNEW A50 was China! WOOT! Personal victory!- Jodaxq
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Can you think of a reason that someone other than a religion spreader would want to target you?In post 2029, brassherald wrote:
Not anything of which I am aware.In post 2028, Jodaxq wrote:
Did anything else happen to you last night?In post 1947, brassherald wrote:I can confirm A50 did spread Taoism to me, was waiting until someone mentioned that if at all.
Also, I KNEW A50 was China! WOOT! Personal victory!- Jodaxq
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If you were targeted by a hider, you wouldn't have been converted to Taoism, right?In post 2044, brassherald wrote:
If there is a hider, I'd be a pretty good target last night.In post 2037, Jodaxq wrote:
Can you think of a reason that someone other than a religion spreader would want to target you?In post 2029, brassherald wrote:
Not anything of which I am aware.In post 2028, Jodaxq wrote:
Did anything else happen to you last night?In post 1947, brassherald wrote:I can confirm A50 did spread Taoism to me, was waiting until someone mentioned that if at all.
Also, I KNEW A50 was China! WOOT! Personal victory!- Jodaxq
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My bad I read hider wrong.In post 2049, brassherald wrote:
They are independent of one another. A hider would be looking for protection from Night Kills, not hiding me.In post 2046, Jodaxq wrote:
If you were targeted by a hider, you wouldn't have been converted to Taoism, right?In post 2044, brassherald wrote:
If there is a hider, I'd be a pretty good target last night.In post 2037, Jodaxq wrote:
Can you think of a reason that someone other than a religion spreader would want to target you?In post 2029, brassherald wrote:
Not anything of which I am aware.In post 2028, Jodaxq wrote:
Did anything else happen to you last night?In post 1947, brassherald wrote:I can confirm A50 did spread Taoism to me, was waiting until someone mentioned that if at all.
Also, I KNEW A50 was China! WOOT! Personal victory!- Jodaxq
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I agree. So who would want to target brass other than a religion spreader?In post 2057, Chara wrote:a hider targeting you is actually pretty unlikely, unless they really needed to hide. most hiders aren't looking to avoid nightkills, they're trying to conftown players because hiders are weak, or else guilty scum. it's essentialluy Elbirn's role.- Jodaxq
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No one seems to care about my softing so I'll put it like this:
Someone, who is not A50, targeted Brass last night. Is this anti-town? My first thought would be that, like Shaziro speculated, there's a mafia group that can obtain a religious victory. This person tried to convert brass, but was either blocked because of A50's move or less likely, brass was converted to the bad religion and is keeping his mouth shut about it. What do you all think?- Jodaxq
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This exactly. I had no idea what it could have been until the religion mechanic came to light, so I believe it is tied to that. Assuming A50 and pidgey are town religion spreaders, I think a third is very likely to be anti-town. They cannot be a hider as I tracked them.In post 2177, brassherald wrote:
I didn't want to out what you were hinting at there, but I really have no clue what the other person would be, I am Taoist now.In post 2175, Jodaxq wrote:No one seems to care about my softing so I'll put it like this:
Someone, who is not A50, targeted Brass last night. Is this anti-town? My first thought would be that, like Shaziro speculated, there's a mafia group that can obtain a religious victory. This person tried to convert brass, but was either blocked because of A50's move or less likely, brass was converted to the bad religion and is keeping his mouth shut about it. What do you all think?- Jodaxq
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@Gamma Emerald: why did you visit Brassherald last night?In post 2178, Almost50 wrote:
Why didn't you say so? All the while I thought you were only talking about me.In post 2175, Jodaxq wrote:Someone, who is not A50, targeted Brass last night. Is this anti-town?
OK, some protective could have tried to protect the IC, although that would probably imply they were not reading and didn't understand the resolutions. I wouldn't expect Scum to pay brass a visit last night because he was protected and thus NK immune. He had a confirmed role for anyone to try and find that out too.
I suggest you use your own best judgement as to whether the slot in question was active enough (and has shown comprehension) or not. If they were and did, you may ask them for an explanation. If not, then I'd just assume inattentive protective.- Jodaxq
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It's weird to you? Even though you had this same theory yourself in 2098? Shaziro also speculated that mafia could have a religious victory condition and we had a mafia religion spreader.In post 2204, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I think this is a weird ass theory and idk where you're getting it fromIn post 2175, Jodaxq wrote:No one seems to care about my softing so I'll put it like this:
Someone, who is not A50, targeted Brass last night. Is this anti-town? My first thought would be that, like Shaziro speculated, there's a mafia group that can obtain a religious victory. This person tried to convert brass, but was either blocked because of A50's move or less likely, brass was converted to the bad religion and is keeping his mouth shut about it. What do you all think?- Jodaxq
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That's not why I outed him. I asked around several times to see if someone else visiting Brass was anti-town or not. Either I was ignored or people outright said they didn't know and I should ask.In post 2233, Chara wrote:Gamma, Joda tracked you. she didn't see Almost target brass. she only saw you target brass.
i was considering if Joda scum would do this, but not sure if scum would handle the report like that, with all of the guessing around. thinking about it further i also would have expected to see a watcher on brass, for the reason Gamma stated. (a strongman kill attempt, not the resolution.) i wish she hadn't outed you over Shaziro's theory.
Shaziro's reaction to Gamma's claim deliberately constructed what he was saying as a lie instead of looking for an explanation.
not sure i want to wagon Shaziro at the moment, though. doesn't feel very right. :<
And it's not just Shaziro's theory. Gamma himself speculated in 2098 that A50 could have a religious based win condition. When I received my results I had no clue why anyone would target Brass, and the religion thing made me reach the possible cult conclusion on my own. Shaziro's post and others only helped add to that thinking.- Jodaxq
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I disagree with your disagreement. Theres always ways to half-coordinate for room to wifom yet helps more townIn post 2227, Chara wrote:i disagree with coordination. it tells scum how to navigate town abilities effectively.
and a day 1/night 1 of multiple scum flips can be dangerous. of course, we're doing well, that's a good thing. but if we start thinking "it will be easy now", that's when you get the string of town lynches.In post 2236, Joey_ wrote:
Spoiler: My reads
Changes :
Assuming Gamma and Joda can't be scum in the same team, added that to my reads
+ Baju kinda towntold
Okay, before we go any further with this, I'm going to full claim. I'm not tracker. I'm Darius I of Persia. I'm the Town Golden Ruler. Each night I receive a random invention that must be used that night. Obviously, last night I received a track and used it on Gamma.- Jodaxq
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No.In post 2239, brassherald wrote:
Sorry, not choose from, that can be granted to you.In post 2238, brassherald wrote:I was thinking you might be an Even night tracker, not an inventor.
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No idea.In post 2245, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wait wasn't there a ban gold resolution? What would that have done to you Joda, do you know?- Jodaxq
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I wanted to pick an active player who had formed a lot of associations. Of the active players, I felt like Gamma was the most suspicious in regards to the Creature wagon.In post 2249, Joey_ wrote:
Why did you track gamma ?In post 2247, Jodaxq wrote:
No idea.In post 2245, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wait wasn't there a ban gold resolution? What would that have done to you Joda, do you know?- Jodaxq
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He first says he'll vote Creature if Dunker became more active. Then, he votes Creature for all of one post. After his unvote, he continues to say Creature is obvscum until Creature came in with a few weak posts. Then it's "I'm not confident in Creature being scum." He then jumps on kind of late.In post 2251, Joey_ wrote:Why was he sus about creature's wagon?
It just looked like a strong possibility that he knew he had to bus Creature but looked for opportunities to jump off.- Jodaxq
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The Gamma v Nero fight is a pretty big turn off, but I think they're both town. I buy the arguments for a town Gamma and definitely want to give him another night to provide results. I think Nero's push is bad, but I trust Joey's read on him as I've seen Joey correctly and instantly identify town Nero elsewhere.- Jodaxq
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Is that you trying to say you think he's town?In post 2532, Nero Cain wrote:Ran was never super active to begin with.- Jodaxq
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2250 is my explanation for why I tracked Gamma.In post 2533, Nero Cain wrote:
What arguments are those?In post 2527, Jodaxq wrote:I buy the arguments for a town Gamma and definitely want to give him another night to provide results. I think Nero's push is bad
All I remember seeing is an argument that we shouldn't lynch a claimed JOAT today. I feel like the JOAT claim is a little sketch. Like dude got tracked so he had to claim something that was plausible and the "WAIT I'M NOT A WATCHER!" Kinda gives him a little wiggle room. I also feel like he totally should have waited to use his watch when Brass wasn't protected. I still feel like his content is confusing and potentially scum motivated.
Me being wrong isn't a foregone conclusion but the wagon on him feels mostly town so what: Am I just wrong and scum are sheeping me? Gamma hasn't really talked about this either and it's shortsighted at best.
There's also a potential guilty.
What made you track Gamma?
The argument for a town Gamma is that there isn't a scum role that fits with wanting to visit Brass. My original thought was that he was the orange religion spreader (or potentially third party/third team spreader) but the other religion spreader PM suggests that brass would have been notified of both religions visiting him. I also think that if he is scum, he now has to continue to fake results which would be pretty tough to continue to get verified results.
I also buy A50's argument that Elbirn was shot by scum. This is something that will become more apparent as the game continues and we can know for sure if there's a vig/SK/third team.- Jodaxq
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It says "no discernable or tangible night effects" so I don't think it would be blocked by another religion visiting.In post 2548, pidgey wrote:In post 2545, Jodaxq wrote:
but the other religion spreader PM suggests that brass would have been notified of both religions visiting him. I also think that if he is scum, he now has to continue to fake results which would be pretty tough to continue to get verified results.
Where did you got this part from? I dont really see anything about that in my role- Jodaxq
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All of her posts are only surface level contributions. She talks a lot about setup/mechanics and things that are known. Her posts relating to her reads are all of a "wait and see what develops."In post 2985, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Can you tell me why wrt TitusIn post 2984, Jodaxq wrote:I really do not like Titus' posts. She is in my lynch pool for today along with Ranmaru.- Jodaxq
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I'll wait for his full claimIn post 3165, Kokichi Oma wrote:Then vote gamma.- Jodaxq
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I was wary of the commuter shot claim especially since I thought Kokichi soft counter-claimed. If I had to pick one way right now though I'd still say he's town.In post 3590, Chara wrote:Joda, what was your read on Gamma on night 2?- Jodaxq
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I don't like this post. The "I think that counters" just feels kind of forced.In post 3586, Gamma Emerald wrote:it is multiball, I think that counters
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Disagree that the game's young. We've had 1/3 of the game die. I think we should massclaim soon. Tomorrow at the absolute latest.In post 3587, Klazam wrote:eh im against massclaim- sure lots of info's out there, but the game's still young, and theres still (probably) 3 scum to go. Dont see reason to potentially out more roles, esp since the revealed roles looks like they either do nothing (religion), or are challenging to play around like joda's inventor, joey's commuter, and gamma's joat.- Jodaxq
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VOTE: Caeser Wills ItIn post 3601, brassherald wrote:Where is Caesar Eats Salad? - Jodaxq
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