Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[Ouroboros]

And btw even if their excuse is that they copied from notepad or whatever, they did it in format, they're somewhat slower than me (which is believable)

why is town taking the time to do all this instead of posting stuff as they go? feels like it's coming from someone who has excessive interest in curating what they put out

btw notice RMOJ just disappeared: he went to scum topic to start figuring out what the excuse that Ventriloquist is going to use will be.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I mean when I naturally quote things as I read, it makes sense to have a time difference as I'm reading, the posts do seem pre-planned.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

why is town taking the time to do all this instead of posting stuff as they go? feels like it's coming from someone who has excessive interest in curating what they put out

Yeah, that's what I think.

[Ouroboros]

Like I want to go into a ton of nitty gritty about scum indicative phrasings that they've used but it's all moonspeak to y'all. There's so much I see from them that's just knee jerk scum but I can't say it in a way you'll all understand

[Ouroboros]

I'M HERE TO SMITE SCUMFIDELS AND POWER DAYVIG TITUS AND I'M ALL OUT OF DAYVIGS

[Ramcius]

OK, great. Considering there is as much a chance as anything that there is a 3 man scum team with a 3rd party and if there's a 3 man scum team then Ram thinks that none of the claims are scum then why is such a huge chunk of his iso focusing on 1 of the claims being scum? Below is quotes from Ram's iso that insinuate scum in one of the claims. I still get the feeling from Ram's post that he's more in the know than most of the rest of us.

I don't believe there's 3 man scumteam with sk, 3 man scum team with non sk 3p is out of question, i believe it's 4 man mafia and maybe some non sk 3p, or town just got weaker/less PRs

Why are we doing set up spec with no flips?

This seems weird, and its something scum try to do before town.

Who you addressing with this? Who is scum speculating setup before town?

[davesaz]

Yeah that timing is sketch as fuck.
VOTE: Ventriloquist

Tech question: how are you getting seconds in the post times?

[wilky]

Yeah that's convinced me on vent what's the current vote count?

[Tchill13]

If this guy doesn't have an alternative PT to be posting in, why the fuck is he making several separate posts in several separate posts?
This is an individual account, not a hydra, and given that they are new they don't have the ability to even make PTs.

Where is he making these separate posts properly forum formatted to be posted together when, if he's town, doesn't have access to any MS PTs?
Why is he taking so long and waiting to post everything together in the first place? What reasoning makes sense there besides him being scum who was holding off to let his team critique his posting?

Town has zero motivation to delay responses until later since clearly he had written these well in advance of 2:23- scum who is getting scumread because of their bad play and wanting team support does.

Hmmm...
738: Thu May 10, 2018 2:23:30 pm
739: Thu May 10, 2018 2:23:46 pm
740: Thu May 10, 2018 2:24:00 pm
741: Thu May 10, 2018 2:24:11 pm (To note he quoted a post 300ish posts older and made a reply in 11 seconds)
742: Thu May 10, 2018 2:25:28 pm

I dunno the first 4 timestamps look a little bit too quick, but they may be a fast typer, i'll keep this in mind for the future.

HOLY FUCK HE DID NOT TYPE THOSE POSTS IN 16 SECONDS AND 11 SECONDS.

KEEP THIS IN MIND FOR WHAT FUTURE

KAEDE YOU'RE HARD PLAYING SCUM WINCON RIGHT NOW

Actually, I guess you have a point, sorry
VOTE: Ventriloquist

VOTE: ventriloquist

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Tech question: how are you getting seconds in the post times?

it allows you to put a custom format for timetamps in the settings, knowing php it wasnt an issue to begin with, but there's a link to the date format that php uses, ftr, this is what i use: D M d, Y g:i:s a (Weekday, Month, day, Hour (in 12 hour), minutes, seconds, am/pm)

[Ankamius]

Are we going to tunnel Vent for the rest of the day?

[Impossibear]

Are we going to tunnel Vent for the rest of the day?

seems so.

I no longer have any will to fight with RC's ego. I honestly, truly, don't give a shit about this game anymore. I've given my thoughts, and if RC wants to run it into the ground, so be it. I'm not enjoying this game any longer, so.. *shrug*

ETL

[Ankamius]

Ok, I'll prod dodge until day two then.

[Ouroboros]

Yeah that's convinced me on vent what's the current vote count?

Vent is currently at L-2.

Ventriloquist (8):

Ouroboros, ManWithNoName, MariaR, Wraith, Alchemist21, Kaede Akamatsu, davesaz, Tchill13

Deadline: (expired on 2018-05-20 12:33:41)

Ghost

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anka, as of your latest reads list you have:

Kaede Akamatsu

MariaR

Nero Cain
Impossibear (EspeciallyTheLies + Jingle)
Ouroboros

hebichan
Ramcius
Wilky

REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
verylazy

Wraith
Dunnstral
davesaz
Alchemist21

ManWithNoName

Ventriloquist

Tchill12

(Bolded is the player you're voting)
I'd think you'd have more to comment on vent or even vote there considering what we just went through to prove than just "oh are we gonna tunnel vent for the rest of the day?"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Although I would rather hear more from vent before a hammer, nevertheless, i'd think for someone in your top 2 SR, you'd have more to say than that.

[Ankamius]

I think a few of Vent's posts after this whole tunnel started were icky, but that's... pretty much it.

I'm against the tunnel because I think it's going to be a net negative for the rest of the game. Scumflips by themselves are useless and could even benefit scum in the worst scenarios.

[GuyInFreezer]

VC 1.06

Tchill13 (1):

verylazy

wilky (1):

Ramcius

Ramcius (1):

wilky

MariaR (1):

Nero Cain

Ventriloquist (8):

Ouroboros, ManWithNoName, MariaR, Wraith, Alchemist21, Kaede Akamatsu, davesaz, Tchill13

ManWithNoName (2):

Ankamius, Ventriloquist

Wraith (1):

Impossibear

Impossibear (1):

Dunnstral

davesaz (1):

hebichan

verylazy (1):

REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE

Not Voting:

None

With

18

alive,

10

to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2018-05-20 12:33:41)

[wilky]

Following the posts above I'm going to iso ank this weekend now too.

[Ankamius]

Oh I should probably clarify this:

My scumreads condensed down; Tchill is actually in the same spot in my reads as he was in my first one, but everyone else shifted around to push him to the bottom.

[Ramcius]

I think a few of Vent's posts after this whole tunnel started were icky, but that's... pretty much it.

I'm against the tunnel because I think it's going to be a net negative for the rest of the game. Scumflips by themselves are useless and could even benefit scum in the worst scenarios.

I don't like this post, it feels like Ank is trying save Vent and preparing for worst case scenario by doing some damage control after Vent will flip red

[Ankamius]

Do I need to show you examples of when I abused an early scumflip to my advantage as scum?

Trust me, that's not even close to a weird statement for me to make.

[Ramcius]

Do I need to show you examples of when I abused an early scumflip to my advantage as scum?

Trust me, that's not even close to a weird statement for me to make.

So, you think this town is easy to abuse for scum?

[Ankamius]

I think day 1 scumlynches are a net negative for town unless they're way ahead of where they're supposed to be relative to the amount of information they have.

This is not that type of situation at all because this Vent-push has drowned out 80% of the game. Even if Vent does flip scum, where does that get us, exactly? Limited information based on associations towards that slot and very little else directly, and less indirect information because this push was brute forced through.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

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I am aware.