Hello friends! I have some changes to make already. First, 1 is not a prime number.
Second, I'm thinking I'd like to replace the Mafia tracker with a Disloyal Governor. No X-shot.
They can pardon Townies or the SK if they like for the WIFOM and Towncred, but with serious risk of it backfiring.
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Changed fruit vendor from loyal to disloyal. I was considering it a bit trollish, but a clever player can turn it into a cop by demanding that anyone who received a fruit claim it. Receiving fruit hard-clears recipient. No one claims, they know their target was scum.
Disloyal is more interesting, as it isn't an obvious investigative power."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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+ Informed Townie will receive the following information: "All roles in this game, aside from Vanilla Townies and/or Mafia Goons, have some element to them which was recently whitelisted for Normal games."
+ I didn't think of the Babysitter/Hider interaction, good catch. Perhaps replace Babysitter with a more robust protective role. Perhaps straight Doctor? Modify the Informed Townie to say "All roles but one." That would help with an unfortunate fakeclaim. Alternatively, drop 'Loud' from the fruit vendors and append it to the Doctor.
+Town is less weak than it looks. It has two complementary weak investigators, both of whom have a chance to catch the SK. The Loud Loyal Fruit Vendor, if they're clever, can also turn their role into an ad hoc investigator, countered by the Mafia version of same.
+Ninja is weaker than it looks, as the only tracking role is 2-shot from the SK. Most recent notes from me indicate that 1 is not a prime number, so it's essentially N2/N3/N5/N7 jailkeeper. The Bulletproof goon is only 2-shot activated; they choose which nights they're bulletproof on, max of two nights. Odds of that actually being relevant are scant. Does not work against vengeful townies, as it's night protection only.
+Tracking aspect of SK is weakened by the presence of a Visitor and two fruit vendors.
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Spoiler: Vengeful Townie Role PM
Mod Note: Both Bulletproof roles specifically stopnightkills. Both are vulnerable to this shot.
Spoiler: Detective Role PM
Spoiler: Psychologist Role PM
Spoiler: Town Hider PM
Spoiler: Town Loyal Fruit Vendor Role PM
Spoiler: Town Loud Doctor Role PM
Spoiler: Town Visitor Role PM
Spoiler: Informed Townie Role PM
Spoiler: 2-shot Activated Bulletproof Townie Role PM
Spoiler: Vanilla Townie Role PM
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Spoiler: Mafia Prime-Number-Night Jailkeeper Role PM
Spoiler: Mafia Goon Role PM
Spoiler: Mafia Ninja Role PM
Spoiler: Mafia Goon Role PM
Spoiler: 1-shot BP Multitasking 2-shot Tracker Serial Killer Role PM
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Three small new matters: Should the Hider be made into the more-common Weak Hider, which dies if it targets non-Town? Does a Loud role still inform the target if the user is roleblocked/jailkept? Should the activated BP Townie die if both the Mafia and SK target them on an activated night? Pending counsel by reviewers, I have written the role PMs as if the answer to both questions is 'No.'"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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This, particularly the underlined, suggests to me that all manner of X-night modifiers are whitelisted.In post 33, implosion wrote:Four more roles/modifiers are being added to the whitelist:
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Modifiers:
Any-nights-specific:you may only use your non-factional abilities on the specified nights. For instance, the following are all now whitelisted:- Night 1 and 3 cop
- Night 2+ vigilante
- Night 1-4 jailkeeper
- Night 1 and even-night neapolitan
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What follows are sample role PMs for a Vanilla Townie and a Mafia Goon:
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Whoops, reposted here instead of to the game thread.
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