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Post Post #11 (isolation #0) » Sat May 12, 2018 4:15 pm

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Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Sat May 12, 2018 5:04 pm

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What's a DV?
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Post Post #61 (isolation #2) » Sun May 13, 2018 2:23 am

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I had a dream that the game got to 68 pages overnight and I had to replace out because there was no way I could keep up. Glad that didn't actually happen lol.
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Post Post #63 (isolation #3) » Sun May 13, 2018 2:33 am

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In post 42, Eddie Cane wrote:35 seems mildly townie. nothing else linked looks ai.
What looks townie about 35? I got the opposite reading of the post.
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Post Post #64 (isolation #4) » Sun May 13, 2018 2:33 am

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Hey I take offense to being called a lurker :igmeou:
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Post Post #69 (isolation #5) » Sun May 13, 2018 3:15 am

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@Pine is your scum read on Muffin from his DV push or something else?
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Post Post #72 (isolation #6) » Sun May 13, 2018 3:23 am

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Do you think he's serious? I don't.
P-edit: That's why I think there's no way he could be serious about it.
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Post Post #77 (isolation #7) » Sun May 13, 2018 3:46 am

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I like offing group 1 rn, both of the people who have irked me are in it.
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Post Post #83 (isolation #8) » Sun May 13, 2018 4:05 am

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In post 78, Wisdom wrote:
In post 60, BuJaber wrote:
In post 53, Wisdom wrote:Its troubling me than other than kokichi everyone else in 2 interpreted the grouping like I did, but its still the case
Im put in 2 so we dont lynch 2

Do we or do we not lynch 2?

Getting mixed signals
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Scum put me in 2 so that we don't lynch 2
So we lynch 2
You could say this about any group though. There are strong well known players in every group (DV in group 1 and zMuffin in group 3 and you in group 2).
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Post Post #86 (isolation #9) » Sun May 13, 2018 4:11 am

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In post 84, Kokichi Oma wrote:Okay we can lunch my group. Idc VOTE: group 2
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Post Post #111 (isolation #10) » Sun May 13, 2018 5:51 am

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REAL MEN DONT NEED TINFOIL TO FIND SCUM
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Post Post #117 (isolation #11) » Sun May 13, 2018 5:56 am

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In post 114, northsidegal wrote:
In post 110, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 101, northsidegal wrote:I'm pretty sure kokichi is town.
Why? I've done literally nothing but vote my own group. Which others have as well
I can peer into your soul.
What games are you using to meta here
(i think i have a pretty good handle on what your scumgame is and i'm not seeing any of it yet, but i'll keep you posted)
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Post Post #118 (isolation #12) » Sun May 13, 2018 5:56 am

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In post 117, SirCakez wrote:
In post 114, northsidegal wrote:
In post 110, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 101, northsidegal wrote:I'm pretty sure kokichi is town.
Why? I've done literally nothing but vote my own group. Which others have as well
I can peer into your soul.
(i think i have a pretty good handle on what your scumgame is and i'm not seeing any of it yet, but i'll keep you posted)
What games are you using to meta here
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Post Post #120 (isolation #13) » Sun May 13, 2018 5:58 am

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In post 63, SirCakez wrote:
In post 42, Eddie Cane wrote:35 seems mildly townie. nothing else linked looks ai.
What looks townie about 35? I got the opposite reading of the post.
@Eddie pls
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In post 111, SirCakez wrote:REAL MEN DONT NEED TINFOIL TO FIND SCUM

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REAL MEN NEED HOT PIZZA TO FIND SCUM
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Post Post #122 (isolation #14) » Sun May 13, 2018 6:00 am

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I take your manly death and raise you SEPPUKU
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Post Post #124 (isolation #15) » Sun May 13, 2018 6:04 am

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Post Post #134 (isolation #16) » Sun May 13, 2018 6:30 am

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In post 126, Eddie Cane wrote: just gave me a townie gut vibe cause it annoyed me when group 1 was being rvsd too
I didn't get that at all but gut is gut I suppose.
In post 132, Kokichi Oma wrote:I'm trying to think of a reason I'm in this group. I am known for being mislynched a lot, so maybe that's why I'm in the group with 5.
I used to get mislynched constantly and I'm not in that group. That doesn't really hold water.
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Post Post #140 (isolation #17) » Sun May 13, 2018 8:58 am

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@Buj those two have just mostly been shit posting. Is that really too scummy to be scum?
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Post Post #146 (isolation #18) » Sun May 13, 2018 9:44 am

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Muffin Northside and Fitz. I didn't mind the initial Fitz post but I dislike how after there was a bunch of discussion about them they popped in with a fluff post and nothing else. Northside for some of their posts feeling kinda fake like their weird meta argument.
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Post Post #150 (isolation #19) » Sun May 13, 2018 11:25 am

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@Wis that's not entirely true
In post 76, dramonic wrote:Then you need to sharpen your senses (branches?) Cuz we already have two visible scum in group 1 and 2.
Japanese name person in grp 2 and 1 long meaningless name in grp 1 (on phone too lazy to look back)

I havent really checked whos in my group besides muffin but he doesnt ping me.
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In post 109, Wisdom wrote:2 has Pine in addition to me
2 has one more person to account for scum losing members
Certain if not most people in this playerlist probably don't have much experience with zmuffin

2 is better than 3
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muffinman --> wisdom -----------------------------------------> pine

who's accounting for what?
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Post Post #157 (isolation #20) » Sun May 13, 2018 2:29 pm

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In post 151, Wisdom wrote:you misunderstood the second one
real was responding to me re: who is better scum
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I see what you're getting at regardless, but I don't agree just yet.


Speaking of DV I am wondering where they are now that it's been about a day.
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Post Post #230 (isolation #21) » Mon May 14, 2018 2:01 am

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In post 160, riku wrote:The fact that only people in group 2 are voting group 2 is now worrying me. Wisdom, how does it suggest scum in our midst?
This post is such a disconnect. First riku says they were now worried about group 2 issue, then they ask Wis how it means group 2 has scum. Like if you are worried about only people in 2 voting 2 then it should be obvious how scum are "in their midst".
In post 163, BuJaber wrote:So nobody in group 1 is voting for group 1?

@Cake - yes I think so. I think muffin and RMOJ were trying to wind people up. I'm not saying it's necessarily scummy but it's anti-town. RMOJ also used a whole lot of words to basically say "scum must be in group 3 because they put me in group 3". (If I misunderstood tell me but I think that's a concise summary of all of his theories). This is more or less what anybody who voted for their own group has said, so why did RMOJ need to do it in a 'showy' way?
I'd maybe consider it scummy if it was later in the game but they were both only in their entrances, so I'd have to disagree.
In post 167, BuJaber wrote:Maybe dramonic/koki/nsg
Because I don't like how dramonic called koki "japanese name person".
What kind of cruddy reasoning is that?
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In post 146, SirCakez wrote:Northside for some of their posts feeling kinda fake like their weird meta argument.
eh. disagree on this
actually part of the reason i think NSG is town is that she's one of the only players i think is actively trying to sort the game and i don't mind the way she's doing it
They haven't really done much real sorting. There was their Koki townread from meta and an unexplained REALMEN townread thrown out. I don't see anything else.


Pine do you have any sort of read besides disliking those two people in 2? Your ISO is rather void.
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Post Post #231 (isolation #22) » Mon May 14, 2018 2:02 am

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In post 227, riku wrote:
In post 226, Wisdom wrote:Then why is your vote still on group 2 if you wanting to lynch it is a joke?
Because I don't believe in unvoting.
Also this is lol
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Post Post #232 (isolation #23) » Mon May 14, 2018 2:04 am

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I would not mind offing 2 but I feel like 1 is our best bet still. Gal I've talked about, Eddie Cane and fitz are super underwhelming. DV not super impressive either.
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Post Post #244 (isolation #24) » Mon May 14, 2018 2:49 am

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In post 241, northsidegal wrote:
In post 232, SirCakez wrote:I would not mind offing 2 but I feel like 1 is our best bet still. Gal I've talked about, Eddie Cane and fitz are super underwhelming. DV not super impressive either.
it's been ~20 hours since either of eddie cane or fitz posted. what makes them underwhelming to you?

maybe it's just hypersensitivity to my own group, but i feel like people have been "okay with" group 1 going since the start of the game even without much real reasoning. i'm not sure why that would be specifically, but that's how it feels.
Them being MIA for that long is underwhelming in itself. Fitz I already mentioned that I disliked their fluff post when they were being discussed and Cane's ISO has nothing that makes me lean either way, so I don't mind him going.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #25) » Mon May 14, 2018 3:02 am

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Oh I completely missed that V/LA derp. I need to see more from both slots.
Group 1 is the group I'm most confident has scum, not sure what you're getting at there.
I was leaning scum but I did like your response to the DV case so we shall see.
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Post Post #254 (isolation #26) » Mon May 14, 2018 3:20 am

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In post 247, northsidegal wrote:i don't understand why the group that you're most confident has scum is the group who has a single person whose posts you don't like, a person whose "ISO has nothing that makes [you] lean either way", me who you're apparently not sure about, and DV, who was "not super impressive".

explain this for me? i hope you see how it's reasonable that i'd assume that group 1 wasn't your most confident given the way you're describing things.
Sure I see where you're coming from. The way I see (or rather saw) it was that there was no one in group 1 who I thought was townish while in 2 Koki and Wis lean town for me and in 3 RMOJ and zMuffin. Thus most likely to be at least one scum in the null/lean scum crowd of 1. Basically PoE.
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Post Post #265 (isolation #27) » Mon May 14, 2018 5:28 am

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In post 259, BuJaber wrote:@riku - how difficult is it to read kokichi's name, and call him koki? Especially when seeing everyone else calling him that. I just got a sense that he's doing it to downplay how much contact he has had with koki.
I don't think this makes much sense. How does saying "japanese name person" downplay contact?
In post 262, Pine wrote:I'm getting scumvibes rn from Riku, BuJaber, Dramonic (sry bb ilu), Muffin, and Kokichi. Tally ho!
Can you talk about the dram read? That's a black hole for me rn.
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Post Post #269 (isolation #28) » Mon May 14, 2018 5:38 am

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In post 266, havingfitz wrote:
...that depends on who the scum are and whether they are familiar with Kokichi or your's mislynchability. Scum could have no experience with Koki (or you) and one or both of you could be in your groups for no particular reason. i.e. your mislynchability/grouping could very likely be completely independent of his mislynchability/grouping.

...so I have 2 posts and the one that for lame reasons is found to be suspect by zMuff you have no problem with...but the one where I congratulate Pine on the arrival of a new child does? That's f'd up and lamer than the zMuff shade.

VOTE: Group 3
The first thing - highly dependent on who is scum which is why speccing on that probably doesn't lead anywhere.
I have 0 problem with you congratulating Pine, but you had literally nothing else to offer despite there being a discussion about you on the previous page.
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Post Post #271 (isolation #29) » Mon May 14, 2018 5:39 am

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@Fitz what makes you townread Eddie Cane and DV?
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Post Post #274 (isolation #30) » Mon May 14, 2018 5:42 am

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In post 265, SirCakez wrote:
In post 262, Pine wrote:I'm getting scumvibes rn from Riku, BuJaber, Dramonic (sry bb ilu), Muffin, and Kokichi. Tally ho!
Can you talk about the dram read? That's a black hole for me rn.
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Post Post #276 (isolation #31) » Mon May 14, 2018 5:45 am

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Ah. Dram is always opaque though which makes me wary to lean either way for that reason.
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Post Post #283 (isolation #32) » Mon May 14, 2018 5:51 am

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In post 278, Pine wrote:
In post 276, SirCakez wrote:Ah. Dram is always opaque though which makes me wary to lean either way for that reason.
Well, you and Muffin are scummy, so if I have to lay my friend dram upon the pyre for Great Justice to be served, so be it.
Weren't you just scumreading dram though?
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Post Post #294 (isolation #33) » Mon May 14, 2018 6:56 am

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In post 285, Pine wrote: PE: Scummy in this game doesn't make him not my friend. He as much as said he was only playing this game to play with me.
Mmm ok
In post 290, Pine wrote: I just think that long-term strategy is better served by G3 today.
Explain?
Kokichi Oma wrote:I'm a one shot scum detector. There is scum in group 2
I can buy this.

Not voting because group 2 pretty close to L-1 I believe.
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Post Post #296 (isolation #34) » Mon May 14, 2018 7:06 am

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Post Post #309 (isolation #35) » Mon May 14, 2018 8:40 am

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In post 298, BuJaber wrote:
In post 265, SirCakez wrote:I don't think this makes much sense. How does saying "japanese name person" downplay contact?
It implies he forgot the actual name.
That's reachy af still.

And it's definitely not mountainous.
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Post Post #325 (isolation #36) » Mon May 14, 2018 11:01 am

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In post 311, Kokichi Oma wrote:Agreed. I think pine and wisdom are scum. I'm willing to sacrifice myself for us to win.
Why Wis? This intrigues me.

Also group numbers best play analysis is fine but I'm not gonna focus on that.
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Post Post #335 (isolation #37) » Mon May 14, 2018 12:26 pm

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In post 327, riku wrote:Oh, and Cakez for scum, probably.
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Post Post #395 (isolation #38) » Tue May 15, 2018 8:06 am

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In post 341, BuJaber wrote:Let's talk about dramon individually - the people who townread him.. what is townie about their posts? I've read their ISO multiple times and don't see anything that could give you that impression. I can accept a null read but please link one post that is townie. Because I read indifference at best and intentional fluff at worst.
This is very accurate for dram. Honestly I don't see the scumreading logic either. It's just null AF.
In post 353, Pine wrote:Sigh.

Wisdom, you fucking suck at reading me.
This is a scummy ass response.
In post 360, zMuffinMan wrote: was a really town post
Agreed also. I'm now townreading NSG ftr, that post + her later pressure on me really flipped my perspective. Rest of Group 1 remains ugly though.
In post 369, havingfitz wrote:
In post 271, SirCakez wrote:@Fitz what makes you townread Eddie Cane and DV?
Eddie for no scum pings and softing group 3 conf scum.
DVs 218 felt town to me. Why? Because. Gut. Felt town.

Why were those the only town reads of mine you were interested in?
Because I saw nothing that made those two worth townreading.
In post 378, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:the overwhelming and surprising number of REAL MEN in group 2 who are so EAGER TO DIE WITH HONOR leads me to think that they are NOT SCUM
mmm this could be just WIFOM though. Also Pine has been pushing back (see below).
In post 379, Pine wrote:That's what I've been saying. I'm ready to "die with honor," but I think three is a better tactical decision
Doesn't sound like you are that ready to die with honor, then.

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Post Post #399 (isolation #39) » Tue May 15, 2018 8:19 am

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In post 398, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: 3
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zMuffin is the only one I'm townreading so IDK. Dram and RMOJ could go either way for me.
Moreso I found it intriguing b/c you spent the last 16 pages insisting 2 dies.
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Post Post #404 (isolation #41) » Tue May 15, 2018 8:38 am

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In post 402, Wisdom wrote:have you heard about read progression? or did you even read my reads?
I did read your reads but I didn't see your "might vote 3" below the readwall. You seemed really convicted earlier but rereading the previous page it makes more sense.
Wisdom wrote:or are you just trying to shade me now that 3 is in danger?
I don't mind 3 dying. Tbh I don't mind any of the groups dying now that I think about it.
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Post Post #424 (isolation #42) » Tue May 15, 2018 8:59 am

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how is calling dram null and saying idc if they die softdefense
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Post Post #427 (isolation #43) » Tue May 15, 2018 9:01 am

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I also said I can't see the townreads either
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Post Post #430 (isolation #44) » Tue May 15, 2018 9:03 am

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how is that irrelevant
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Post Post #433 (isolation #45) » Tue May 15, 2018 9:07 am

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I didn't even realize Bu was trying to push dram with that, I just thought it was an open question about how to read dram.
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Post Post #440 (isolation #46) » Tue May 15, 2018 9:11 am

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Also on an unrelated note: I am enjoying this game's pace nicely. Part of the reason I had to stop playing mafia was b/c people would post 10 pages overnight every day. This is much more manageable :)

P-edit:
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In post 433, SirCakez wrote:I didn't even realize Bu was trying to push dram with that, I just thought it was an open question about how to read dram.
I'm actually really easy to read, but I might be biased.
If I were scum I'd play like NSG or Kokichi, aka bs content generation.
Idk whenever I see you play you're always like this - sassy and fluffy regardless of alignment.

I still think 1 is the best lynch FTR.
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Post Post #454 (isolation #47) » Tue May 15, 2018 9:21 am

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In post 453, dramonic wrote:Well no shit, you opened your role PM.
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Post Post #462 (isolation #48) » Tue May 15, 2018 9:26 am

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koki who is your "guilty" on?
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why do people do fake guilties in normal games?
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Post Post #482 (isolation #50) » Tue May 15, 2018 11:13 am

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fitz continues to scumpost
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Post Post #490 (isolation #51) » Tue May 15, 2018 11:32 am

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Scum in group 2 is almost certainly Pine or Riku IMO.
I will vote 2 given the guilty but not yet.
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Post Post #492 (isolation #52) » Tue May 15, 2018 11:34 am

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I am definitely leaning Pine but I don't want to rule you out yet. Doesn't really matter either way I guess.
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Post Post #497 (isolation #53) » Tue May 15, 2018 12:03 pm

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On another topic since 2 is dying today - can we talk about REALMEN? I just looked at their ISO and it's entirely shitposting, mechanics talk and unexplained reads. There's no real gamesolving. IDK how I had them at null.
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Post Post #500 (isolation #54) » Tue May 15, 2018 12:18 pm

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What does that even mean
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Post Post #508 (isolation #55) » Tue May 15, 2018 12:32 pm

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That would be a waste.
I vote for Fitz, Eddie or RMOJ.
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Post Post #509 (isolation #56) » Tue May 15, 2018 12:32 pm

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Also before we hammer I want to see that promised content from DV.
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Post Post #517 (isolation #57) » Tue May 15, 2018 12:45 pm

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In post 499, Pine wrote:
In post 497, SirCakez wrote:On another topic since 2 is dying today - can we talk about REALMEN? I just looked at their ISO and it's entirely shitposting, mechanics talk and unexplained reads. There's no real gamesolving. IDK how I had them at null.
Lol no, this is scared scum. Go ahead, try to take down the unexpectedly ballsy guy. See if that works for you.
I still don't understand this.

@Wis why save RMOJ over Muffin?
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why is rmoj obvtown humor me
the muffin reasoning sure
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also I thought RMOJ was a hydra?
P-edit: it makes sense to me Eddie
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lol look at pine flail
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dram why does koki suicide like this as scum? presumably they didn't know about Wis' swap thing.
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Post Post #536 (isolation #62) » Tue May 15, 2018 12:56 pm

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In post 531, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 523, SirCakez wrote:also I thought RMOJ was a hydra?
P-edit: it makes sense to me Eddie
the setup is about partitions, cop saying "this group has scum" is against the spirit. i am asking him how his pm words it because it seems abstract and not viable.
not really, since the claimed role involves the partition mechanic by analyzing a whole group and not just one person.
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Post Post #541 (isolation #63) » Tue May 15, 2018 12:59 pm

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fair enough I suppose
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i still don't think they are scum but the possibility is there
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unrelated topic - where did northsidegal go? they haven't posted for a day
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and before someone calls that scummy redirection no that's not what i'm trying to do
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Post Post #549 (isolation #67) » Tue May 15, 2018 1:04 pm

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In post 525, Pine wrote:Wisdom

I am Town

If I were scum I would NOT be advocating a self-lynch. I am actively campaigning for it.

Kokichi says there's scum in 2. Swap him out for Cakez, that's a double scum lynch.

Quit being a pansy.

PE: We are not lynching 3 anymore. 2 has guaranteed scum in it, and it's not me. I get lynched with either plan, so go with the guaranteed 1-2 scum lynch
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I am actually entirely fine with a G3 swapping me in for RMOJ

Suboptimal, but I'm prettt sure it's still 2 scum

Actually wait. That means 1 Town plus me dies. And you know for sure that one of G2 is the remaining

I endorse this

Tell me which to vote
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In post 550, Pine wrote:I am scum
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pine for someone so convinced I'm scum I find it interesting you have 0 reasoning in your entire ISO as to why
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Post Post #569 (isolation #70) » Tue May 15, 2018 1:27 pm

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i still have seen no explanation for rmoj townreads
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In post 596, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 591, SirCakez wrote:I knew who Muffin was. He's part of why I joined.
Is that why you put him in your group?

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In post 532, SirCakez wrote:dram why does koki suicide like this as scum? presumably they didn't know about Wis' swap thing.
What does the Wisdom claim have to do with the Koki claim?
because wisdom was proposing swapping koki out
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Post Post #601 (isolation #73) » Tue May 15, 2018 3:05 pm

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gal why is realmen town
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Post Post #602 (isolation #74) » Tue May 15, 2018 3:08 pm

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and eddie cane for that matter
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Post Post #606 (isolation #75) » Tue May 15, 2018 3:15 pm

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i'm just gonna talk to myself

if it's 1-1-1
then prob 1 of (eddie, fitz) (riku, pine) (realmen, dram)
hmm I think (fitz, pine, realmen) is plausible
pine is like lockscum
fitz eddie realmen leanscum
riku dram nullish

nothing explains all these trs on realmen tho

sorry if this is too spammy! @implo
i just keep thinking of stuff to add

P-edit: thanks for actually acknowledging that re;realmen! unlike some people...
eddie is not top of my kill list atm anyway, i think flips will be really revealing as to his alignment
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Post Post #608 (isolation #76) » Tue May 15, 2018 3:18 pm

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buj townread is reaffirmed by ISOing
i like the townblock that is forming of (wis, koki, gal) which makes me think lynching 3 is a better idea
dv remains a total wildcard
wis being unable to read muffin also is making me shaky there
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Post Post #609 (isolation #77) » Tue May 15, 2018 3:20 pm

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can probably toss buj in that townblock
mm muffin's claim was pretty townie now that i think about
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Post Post #612 (isolation #78) » Tue May 15, 2018 3:22 pm

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highly disagree, koki's claim is town and wis' hardheadedness here is town for him and gal has been townposting since that wall responding to DV
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Post Post #615 (isolation #79) » Tue May 15, 2018 3:26 pm

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In post 613, havingfitz wrote:If we know there is scum in G2 if we believe Koki's claim...why would we swap someone out of G2 (potentially not the scum) into group three (for potentially a G3 scum) and then vote out G3...potentially helping scum dodge a bullet instead of getting lynched?

If people believe Koki's claim and that he is town wouldn't the best move be to swap him into G3 for anyone (potentially a G3 scum) and vote out G2 for possibly 2 scum removed.
everyone is confident in pine/riku scum so the logic goes if it's not one of them we get the other next day
and there's three pretty confident townreads in 2 (buj, wis, koki) that are worth saving
zMuffinMan wrote:ok, so after thinking it through i don't think anyone should swap anyone and we just lynch group 2 - it's safer to lynch g2 than doing a swap and potentially fucking things up (or hitting less scum as a result)

this also covers the outside chance that kokichi is just scum, even though i think that less likely than him being town atm. swapping koki out isn't a bad idea per se, i think it's just less safe

i'm considering the merits of one other possibility where i swap wisdom for myself and he swaps me + someone else outside of group 2. this might give us a better chance to hit multiple scum

there may be other better alternatives i havent thought of
this seems like a waste when i'm sure we'll need the swaps later
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Post Post #618 (isolation #80) » Tue May 15, 2018 3:33 pm

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In post 616, havingfitz wrote:
In post 606, SirCakez wrote:nothing explains all these trs on realmen tho
You are omitting RMOJ from all your scum scenarios...why are you questioning people's tr on him/them/she/it if you aren't scum sorting him/them/she/it?
read my posts on this page again
In post 617, zMuffinMan wrote:what do you mean "need the swaps later"?
like for later days if scum fuck us up by putting obvtowners with obvscummers
that doesn't really make sense now that I think about it but it's what i meant
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Post Post #629 (isolation #81) » Tue May 15, 2018 3:42 pm

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i went back to look at death note mafia (great game btw) which was the only game i could recall with wisdom scum and isoed him and yeah he just feels different there, more explaining of stuff, more trying to insinuate with town
this might just be me confbiased tho lol
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In post 615, SirCakez wrote:everyone is confident in pine/riku scum so the logic goes if it's not one of them we get the other next day
and there's three pretty confident townreads in 2 (buj, wis, koki) that are worth saving
There is no word for how wrong you are <_<
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In post 615, SirCakez wrote:everyone is confident in pine/riku scum so the logic goes if it's not one of them we get the other next day
and there's three pretty confident townreads in 2 (buj, wis, koki) that are worth saving
Then we should be swapping pine for whoever the most likely to be town in withing G3. If that RMOJ or zMuff...the man...the " "legend" "...the claimer? Or if riku is suspect as well...zMuff could swap himself with riku to double G3's scum prospects.
the issue is i'm not gonna get swapped out because most of the game null/scumreads me, so it will probably be RMOJ but I want death to RMOJ >.<

i also have something that is relevant to the lynching group 3 discussion but lemme think more before revealing it
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Post Post #631 (isolation #82) » Tue May 15, 2018 3:43 pm

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always true that the only way to guarantee death to scum is to lynch 2
the real question is is it worth sacrificing so many townreads
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Post Post #632 (isolation #83) » Tue May 15, 2018 3:44 pm

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i haven't stayed up late for a mafia game like this in a while
it's so exciting :)
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Post Post #640 (isolation #84) » Tue May 15, 2018 3:55 pm

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In post 635, dramonic wrote:Okay, correction, we could end up 4-3 if Koki is both lying and town.
I'm choosing to exclude that possibility for my own sanity.
lol

wis is probably not gonna let lynching 2 no swaps happen anyway knowing how stubborn he is
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Post Post #648 (isolation #85) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:03 pm

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scum probably have some prs of their own to keep balance so i'm more going off play
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Post Post #653 (isolation #86) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:07 pm

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i am also liking dram more from the last few pages
inb4 wis calls me protecting "my buddy" :roll:

pine is that the only thing you can offer from the last 3 pages
why so suicidal all of a sudden?
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Post Post #654 (isolation #87) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:08 pm

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In post 652, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 626, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 588, Kokichi Oma wrote:I. Already. Did. Its. One. Shot. And. Detects. If. There. Is. Scum. In. A. Group.
why would you target the bigger group and your own group
both are suboptimal
Getting 5 town cleared instead of 4 town is suboptimal?
this doesn't make sense
you should already know you are town so no matter what you would be clearing four people?
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Post Post #657 (isolation #88) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:12 pm

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In post 655, Kokichi Oma wrote:Because I become clear myself, instead of "what if he's scum" posts and all that shit.
ah I thought you were talking from your own perspective, not the crowd's
dramonic wrote: Wisdom's role is made antitown by Koki's.
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Post Post #661 (isolation #89) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:28 pm

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it's not necessarily anticop in the way you're suggesting if he swaps out koki to save them and puts some other scumfuck in
also off to bed now
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Post Post #888 (isolation #90) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:41 am

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wtf guys i said not to post 10 pages overnight
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Post Post #891 (isolation #91) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:44 am

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Post Post #900 (isolation #92) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:58 am

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PART 1
In post 662, dramonic wrote:If he swaps out Koki and Koki was fakeclaiming (which is my primary theory) we're most likely in lylo.
You're also ignoring the possibility of Koki fakeclaiming but there being scum anyway.
In post 693, Pine wrote:So we're all agreed, we're lynching me

In the group we know contains scum

Swapping out confirmed Town for another scumspect like Cakez or Dram
Why so suicidal (repeat from earlier)
In post 706, dramonic wrote:
It's [BuJaber, Wisdom, Kokichi, Pine, Riku].
You don't fuck up the guilty for the lolz because you think you're better than facts.
You lynch the group as is and you get your scum lynch
Regardless of opinion on what dram wants, this rage posting from dram feels rather town.
In post 742, Wisdom wrote: The cop result will still be true tomorrow even if my swap misses
This is a good point.
In post 763, Wisdom wrote:
In post 750, DeasVail wrote:Wisdom, why is it just one scum?
Because me, Kokichi and Bu are 100% town.
I don't see how Bu is 100% town from your POV. Strong town sure but not 100%.
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Post Post #901 (isolation #93) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:59 am

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AND NO THATS NOT SHADE CASTING AT BU I THINK THEY ARE TOWN TOO
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Post Post #902 (isolation #94) » Wed May 16, 2018 2:07 am

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PART 2
In post 772, Wisdom wrote:And now that im caught up
Unless i see a rational response on why I shouldnt swap Pine for realmen and lynch group3, thats what Im doing and then I am forcing your hand because youre not going to lynch g2 without Pine in it.
I called this
In post 776, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:my reasoning:

PINE IS BEING A REAL MAN AND WILLING TO DIE WITH HONOR

riku isn't so much
PINE WILLINGNESS TO BE A REAL MAN IS OBVIOUSLY FAKED AFTER HE GOT A BAD RESPONSE TO BEING AN UNREALMAN
In post 783, Wisdom wrote:In other matters I agree with DV that fitz is the G1 scum
His play feels different than town-fitz
glad to see people coming around on this one

people voting 3 pre-swap - what are you doing??
I feel better about DeasVail now.
(realmen, fitz, pine) feels even more likely.
fuck me i was getting close to taking #1 post count then this happened damn
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Post Post #904 (isolation #95) » Wed May 16, 2018 2:10 am

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good shit muffin
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Post Post #908 (isolation #96) » Wed May 16, 2018 2:19 am

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Wisdom wrote:Why do you keep scumreading realmen

@cakez
Earlier their ISO looked really crappy with a lot of surface level stuff that looks like scum trying to blend in and upon reviewing that doesn't look to have really changed.
And this new push on Muffin is looking ugly to me, especially since Muffin's most recent post was town af
And then when I asked why people were townreading them the only two who responded were gal who said something about tone and then said she was reconsidering, and Buj who agreed they look scummy.
And then also just PoE if we assume it's 1-1-1 I have decent townreads on Muffin and dram so that just leaves realmen.
I wish I knew who the players were because it could potentially affect my read if my suspicions are right.
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Post Post #911 (isolation #97) » Wed May 16, 2018 2:23 am

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also no one is considering that if we do the swap and lynch 3 play and we're wrong about the scum in 2 then scum will take whoever the next suspect is and bury their ass with a bunch of obvtown tomorrow
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Post Post #920 (isolation #98) » Wed May 16, 2018 2:32 am

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In post 913, Wisdom wrote:Still better than lynching the same bunch of obvtown today
At least we get a chance at not being wrong

@cakez
True I guess
I'm mostly paranoid about someone I'm strongly townreading being the scum because I've been burned hard by that before.

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Post Post #932 (isolation #99) » Wed May 16, 2018 3:08 am

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alternate idea - lynch 1? And swap gal out.
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Post Post #963 (isolation #100) » Wed May 16, 2018 4:46 am

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In post 937, Wisdom wrote:
In post 932, SirCakez wrote:alternate idea - lynch 1? And swap gal out.
Nah
DV and eddie are townleans
Meh
In post 954, Pine wrote:Plz lynch group 2

Swap scummy people into it

Ready to die for the cause
Look at how useless Pine is being. He knows he's caught scum.

I'm feeling kinda indifferent towards which way we go with the swap. Is that bad lol
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Post Post #979 (isolation #101) » Wed May 16, 2018 5:02 am

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In post 964, Wisdom wrote:cakez you feel like you agree with whatever
i dont see you having a strong opinion about anything
Eh this is somewhat true, this is a tough game.
I do have strong scum reads on the pool of pine, fitz, realmen and strong town reads on Buj, gal, Muffin, dram, koki, you. Eddie, DV, Riku is my waffle pool.
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Post Post #981 (isolation #102) » Wed May 16, 2018 5:02 am

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I'm p sure dram vs wisdom and realmen is not going anywhere productive.
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Post Post #1000 (isolation #103) » Wed May 16, 2018 5:17 am

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In post 983, Wisdom wrote:cakez, realmen is town here. What he's saying is what I'm thinking.
scum parroting is not very difficult, they are just agreeing with what you have already said in thread
In post 995, Wisdom wrote:i want you to flip, realmen, sorry
it's not natural for you to agree with me so much
wait who is realmen actually?
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Post Post #1005 (isolation #104) » Wed May 16, 2018 5:21 am

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In post 1002, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1000, SirCakez wrote:wait who is realmen actually?
Idk, I didnt mean that as personal
oh I thought it was a meta argument

Dram for Pine sounds ok to me if we are going down the lynch 3 route.
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Post Post #1022 (isolation #105) » Wed May 16, 2018 5:43 am

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In post 1020, Pine wrote:
In post 998, Wisdom wrote:Swapping Pine for dram as it is. Probably in a few hours.
In post 999, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:if dram is scum you cucked yourself

if pine is town you cucked yourself double

proceed
Double-cucked Wis, then.

I hate this game.

Lynch me for safety, annihilate the center row because guilty.

Swap in a scummy player like Cakez, dram, Muffin also good.
somebody isn't reading the game!
swapping muffin is a bad bad idea because he will just swap himself out
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #106) » Wed May 16, 2018 6:00 am

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but you have pine as town???
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Post Post #1038 (isolation #107) » Wed May 16, 2018 6:13 am

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In post 1033, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:
In post 1031, SirCakez wrote:but you have pine as town???
thats why he isnt 'fucking town' you get it?
No...
In post 1034, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:
In post 1029, Wisdom wrote:how is pine town
he's all over the place
one moment he wants to be swapped to g3 then he wants g2 to be lynched instead
being 'all over the place' isnt scummy

you're all over the place too
I know this wasn't aimed at me but pine has no progression to his reads, it's very fake. Plus the last like 10 pages he has done nothing but shitpost about trying to get himself killed.
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Post Post #1043 (isolation #108) » Wed May 16, 2018 6:20 am

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In post 1039, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:oh no shitposting about trying to get himself killed is SCUMMY god FORBID

my lowkey townlean on you has been withdrawn. fuck cakez i'm down to lynch this wanker
when he got shit on for trying to save himself and there's been tons of stuff to comment on that he's ignoring ya it is
since when did you have a townlean on me lol
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #109) » Wed May 16, 2018 7:52 am

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I don't think people are confused about the proposal, I think they just oppose not lynching everyone in the "guilty pool".
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #110) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:14 am

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Mmmm now both my strong scum reads aside from fitz are in 2..
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #111) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:16 am

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In post 1087, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1082, Pine wrote:
In post 1078, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1076, Pine wrote:Waiting for Muffin to swap me to G3.
i regret not swapping pine
this makes no sense
Muffin's another switcher, right?

I thought the plan was to swap RMOJ-riku and Pine-Muffin, then lynch 3 for a solid chance at a clean scum sweep.
You know yourself to be town.
Why do you want to be switched into group 3?
Do you expect Riku to flip town?
The answer here is Pine scum, hes not an idiot.
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Post Post #1090 (isolation #112) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:16 am

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He's just playing a mega WIFOM game
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Post Post #1109 (isolation #113) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:23 am

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Wis will murder me for this but I like lynching group 2 even more now b/c my two strongest scumspects are there now and if they all god forbid are town then riku is confscum.
this won't happen though of course
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Post Post #1114 (isolation #114) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:24 am

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Wisdom wrote:
In post 1109, SirCakez wrote:I like lynching group 2
yeah youre scum
you're playing both sides and now that youre in danger you went to the other side
called it lol

+1 to that Eddie, this is a fun game and people are flipping out unnecessarily :)
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #115) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:24 am

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In post 1113, Pine wrote:
SirCakez wrote:Wis will murder me for this but I like lynching group 2 even more now b/c my two strongest scumspects are there now and if they all god forbid are town then riku is confscum.
this won't happen though of course
This is one of the scummiest posts I have EVER SEEN EVER. It is ASTONISHINGLY self-serving.
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Post Post #1120 (isolation #116) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:26 am

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group 3 will almost certainly die anyway I was just tossing that out there so that postgame we can all look at the post and sigh
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Post Post #1125 (isolation #117) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:27 am

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how is that backpedaling I take nothing back
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Post Post #1126 (isolation #118) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:27 am

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Post Post #1128 (isolation #119) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:28 am

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anyways it feels like an echo chamber in here
wish we could hear from the other 2/3 of the game a.k.a deasvail, havingfitz, northsidegal, bujaber, kokichi, riku, muffin
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Post Post #1129 (isolation #120) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:28 am

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and realmen in there too whoops
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Post Post #1133 (isolation #121) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:31 am

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what happened to pine
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Post Post #1137 (isolation #122) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:32 am

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he seems pretty much the same to me tbh dram
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Post Post #1140 (isolation #123) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:35 am

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In post 1112, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1109, SirCakez wrote:I like lynching group 2
yeah youre scum
you're playing both sides and now that youre in danger you went to the other side
also for a more legit response to this it should be obvious why my opinion changed
i thought my strongest scumread Pine was gonna get switched in and have a townread dram taken out
instead my second strongest scumread RMOJ was taken out and a null read riku put in
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Post Post #1142 (isolation #124) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:37 am

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yeah that's why at the bottom of that post i literally said 'this won't happen though of course"
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Post Post #1146 (isolation #125) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:40 am

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who is even scumreading dram any more?
p-edit: i don't think so
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Post Post #1151 (isolation #126) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:42 am

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that's now what I meant lol, I meant what happened to you in wisdom's scumreads
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Post Post #1158 (isolation #127) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:45 am

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In post 1151, SirCakez wrote:that's now what I meant lol, I meant what happened to you in wisdom's scumreads
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Post Post #1159 (isolation #128) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:46 am

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In post 1146, SirCakez wrote:who is even scumreading dram any more?
Also reposting this because no one responded
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Post Post #1167 (isolation #129) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:54 am

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ya that's why I like this game
even though I need pine's BLOOD I don't actually

unlike some games I have played where people seem to be fighting for their lives irl...
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Post Post #1178 (isolation #130) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:11 am

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Yes we need to kill Pine for a D1 win lol
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Post Post #1179 (isolation #131) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:11 am

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No Riku probably needs to go at some point
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Post Post #1187 (isolation #132) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:15 am

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I mean if the group 3 lynch goes through dram
I still don't understand how that comment was backpedaling, the game state changed in a way I wasn't expecting and didn't want so it's a progression.
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Post Post #1189 (isolation #133) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:15 am

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I'm not tunneling Pine.
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Post Post #1193 (isolation #134) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:19 am

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Wis why are you coaching him
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Post Post #1198 (isolation #135) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:21 am

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Bu is universally town read lol
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Post Post #1203 (isolation #136) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:23 am

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Look now he's lining up lynches for tomorrow after group 3 mostly/completely flips town
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Post Post #1214 (isolation #137) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:30 am

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In post 1206, Pine wrote:
In post 1203, SirCakez wrote:Look now he's lining up lynches for tomorrow after group 3 mostly/completely flips town
P-edit besides you Pine
How can I line up lynches if I flip red?

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Post Post #1220 (isolation #138) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:34 am

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i'd also be fine with that group dying ftr, kills most of my scum/null reads
don't think i ever explicitly said that
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Post Post #1221 (isolation #139) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:35 am

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Wisdom wrote:i more get the impression pine is scum who knows riku is flipping town
hes both trying to get attention on bu (as alternative guilty in g2)
and trying to mindfuck muffin into not swapping him into g3
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Post Post #1228 (isolation #140) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:49 am

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koki did your role specify if there was one scum within the group or just some unknown amount of scum?
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #141) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:51 am

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Post Post #1233 (isolation #142) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:54 am

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Post Post #1235 (isolation #143) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:55 am

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so then it's also important to keep in mind that people from 2 aren't necessarily conftown even if we get riku/pine scumflips
inb4 someone calls this shadethrowing
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Post Post #1249 (isolation #144) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:24 pm

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also Pine being ready to die does not mean jack when he is not in the lynch target group
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Post Post #1255 (isolation #145) » Wed May 16, 2018 3:05 pm

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Post Post #1258 (isolation #146) » Wed May 16, 2018 3:37 pm

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Wow DV's reads are nearly identical to mine
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #147) » Wed May 16, 2018 4:45 pm

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No people thought Eddie was softing being able to move people and then it just sort of turned into everyone taking it as a claim, despite no actually hard claim lol
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Post Post #1333 (isolation #148) » Thu May 17, 2018 2:20 am

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Yo before 3 is lynched I have to claim something
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Post Post #1336 (isolation #149) » Thu May 17, 2018 2:38 am

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ok so I have a 1-shot ability that lets me leave my current group and go to another one and it resets the VC and adds time if under 48 hours and all that jazz
Obviously I'd like to not die by using that but a lot of people are scumreading me and my flip will probably give a lot of info and if I don't die today scum like Pine will keep using their scumread on me as a crutch so I'm thinking I shouldn't use it? any opinions?
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Post Post #1337 (isolation #150) » Thu May 17, 2018 2:39 am

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also I didn't actually read last few pages so gonna do that now
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Post Post #1339 (isolation #151) » Thu May 17, 2018 2:42 am

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yeah I noticed that but my role title is completely different - free walker
I also crumbed in a few spots but that was kind of stupid since it's confirmable anyway if need be lol
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Post Post #1340 (isolation #152) » Thu May 17, 2018 2:43 am

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also Eddie never actually claimed being able to move people so the "mover" is not really confirmed
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Post Post #1341 (isolation #153) » Thu May 17, 2018 2:45 am

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btw happy scumday dram!
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Post Post #1343 (isolation #154) » Thu May 17, 2018 2:52 am

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sure I guess
also only thing I got from last few pages was riku looks scummier
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Post Post #1348 (isolation #155) » Thu May 17, 2018 3:03 am

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In post 1344, Pine wrote:Guys

Scum being able to move others would be overpowered

Scum able to move themselves makes sense

That’s a scumclaim from cakez
this doesn't make sense if you subscribe to the swapper, self swapper, mover, self mover theorem

I'm leaning towards not using it for reasons I said above ftr
But I don't think muffin scum :/
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Post Post #1363 (isolation #156) » Thu May 17, 2018 3:26 am

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In post 1359, Kokichi Oma wrote:Lynching Group 2 is a scumclaim when cakes already scumclaimed by doing the 180. You guys had your chance to lynch group 2. Not anymore
I STILL don't understand how that was a 180 ffs
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Post Post #1382 (isolation #157) » Thu May 17, 2018 3:43 am

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In post 1365, Kokichi Oma wrote:Cakes waited until after riku was swapped to say he wanted to lynch group 2 when he was advocating group 3 the whole time before
I responded to this ages ago
In post 1140, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1112, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1109, SirCakez wrote:I like lynching group 2
yeah youre scum
you're playing both sides and now that youre in danger you went to the other side
also for a more legit response to this it should be obvious why my opinion changed
i thought my strongest scumread Pine was gonna get switched in and have a townread dram taken out
instead my second strongest scumread RMOJ was taken out and a null read riku put in
my status in whether I die or not is irrelevant
In post 1374, Pine wrote:Also, come on people. A role that can only move itself has ZERO Town utility and TONS of scum utility. Cakez is scumzor.
I was trying to keep it in my pocket for late game but that went out the window. Mainly if scum is close to majority late game it could be used to counter fucky groups that put me with someone scummy or something like that. But that obviously didn't work out.
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Post Post #1384 (isolation #158) » Thu May 17, 2018 3:45 am

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Wis you're good with Muffin swapping himself with Pine right?
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Post Post #1409 (isolation #159) » Thu May 17, 2018 4:13 am

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In post 1393, Wisdom wrote:I am not
But now that cakez claimed this you figure that his flip will incriminate you further
So youre pushing g2 even more
This sounds like you think I'm town now??
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Post Post #1416 (isolation #160) » Thu May 17, 2018 4:21 am

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In post 1413, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1409, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1393, Wisdom wrote:I am not
But now that cakez claimed this you figure that his flip will incriminate you further
So youre pushing g2 even more
This sounds like you think I'm town now??
I do, I've said so
I see
What if Muffin and I both flip town?
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Post Post #1420 (isolation #161) » Thu May 17, 2018 4:25 am

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There's also the possibility of other unrevealed roles
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Post Post #1428 (isolation #162) » Thu May 17, 2018 4:31 am

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Wis why did you take realmen out of your murder pool?
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Post Post #1437 (isolation #163) » Thu May 17, 2018 4:37 am

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Hmm
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Post Post #1450 (isolation #164) » Thu May 17, 2018 4:57 am

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i'm gonna be gone for the next few hours don't hammer yet
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Post Post #1453 (isolation #165) » Thu May 17, 2018 5:08 am

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As it stands more of my scumspects are in 2 and riku would be made confscum if 2 is all town somehow so I would like a lynch there.
But that's not realistically gonna happen and lynching 3 does give more information readwise to the remaining people.

don't hurt me wisdom
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Post Post #1578 (isolation #166) » Thu May 17, 2018 9:30 am

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yo I have to do night start for a game I'm running offsite and then I'll be here
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Post Post #1581 (isolation #167) » Thu May 17, 2018 9:49 am

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In post 1454, dramonic wrote:
In post 1453, SirCakez wrote:But that's not realistically gonna happen
It's not realistic because you're all saying crap like this.
Well who would vote 2 besides muffin, you and myself?
In post 1455, Wisdom wrote:Making riku confscum doesnt help if scum put them in a group full of town tomorrow
We should lynch scum today
This is one of the reasons I wanted to save the swaps for later...
In post 1465, havingfitz wrote: Then there is
Cakez
who didn't like the fact I posted a one liner over the weekend (while v/LA) congratulating Pine on becoming a dad and that I didn't see fit to make comments on actaul game related stuff. there wasn't anything I had seen that deserved a comment for the brief check in amoutn of time I was devoting mafia...which on weekends is usually little to none. I noticed Pine's sig and thought it deserved an atta boy. So sue me.

Someone, idnr, thought I was suspect for posting late in the game? In a game that opened on a Saturday (while I don't care about mafia) + see previous weekend activity thoughts. Lamest (not Lamist or LAMIST or La Mist) NAI shade attempt ever. On par with newborn congratulations fluff posting shade. smh.
This is not why I'm scumreading you anymore. Although continuing to misrep that as me criticizing you for congratulating Pine is rather scummy.
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it's not what i'd do with his role

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I have thought about this
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If I swap out there is gonna be that immediate suspicion of "was he scum saving himself?" for the rest of the game that I'm not gonna be able to shake. I don't think I'm a good enough player to be able to shake that and convince people I'm town.
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Post Post #1586 (isolation #168) » Thu May 17, 2018 10:22 am

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what's so funny?
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Post Post #1593 (isolation #169) » Thu May 17, 2018 10:59 am

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Pine
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Post Post #1594 (isolation #170) » Thu May 17, 2018 10:59 am

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In post 1592, Pine wrote:Sigh

We're going to have a perfect setup on scum and then they're going to abandon ship, aren't they?
just look at how fake these posts are lol
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Post Post #1596 (isolation #171) » Thu May 17, 2018 11:09 am

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What are you gonna do Muffin Dram and I all flip town?
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Post Post #1597 (isolation #172) » Thu May 17, 2018 11:11 am

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The answer to that btw is he's gonna push on Buj which he was setting up earlier
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Post Post #1600 (isolation #173) » Thu May 17, 2018 11:18 am

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It's quite obvious what I meant there
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Post Post #1608 (isolation #174) » Thu May 17, 2018 3:17 pm

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JOIN OR DIE
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Post Post #1628 (isolation #175) » Fri May 18, 2018 12:27 am

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This is acceptable. Go for it.
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #176) » Fri May 18, 2018 12:27 am

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Remember to look at realmen and Fitz tomorrow.
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Post Post #1632 (isolation #177) » Fri May 18, 2018 12:30 am

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Fun game :)
Good luck town!
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Post Post #1677 (isolation #178) » Fri May 18, 2018 4:39 am

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hey im not dead yet
If both Riku/Pine do flip town for some god forsaken reason don't be afraid to look at Wisdom. Muffin v Wisdom may very well be TvS.
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Post Post #2435 (isolation #179) » Fri May 25, 2018 4:32 am

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This game was fun and I'm glad I joined. Makes me want to play mafia again :D
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