Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[EspeciallyTheLies]

How about, let's claim IC before there's any reason to!!!!!!!!!!!

YEAH! THAT'S A GREAT IDEA!! WOO!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Hey ETL, here's an excellent idea, since you're so knowledgeable of the flavor of this game, and since flavor is so indicative of one's alignment, let's have everyone mass flavor claim so you can tell us who's scum!
Sounds like something GIF would let happen right?!!

wtf is this... when did I ever say that was the only reason I was townreading him? Not to mention, this is rude as hell.. who the fuck actually believes this? You really think I am this fucking stupid?

jfc...

You did say it.

Re: Wilky's flavor - I happen to be very familiar with the games. As in, I spend far too much time with Bethesda games in general. When Wilky first claimed and provided a tidbit about what he was - "a prototype synth", I knew exactly who he

could

be. I wanted

him

to confirm that for me or not.

He confirmed it for me. For the same reason that RMOJ is conftown, so is wilky, to me at least. It doesn't matter what anyone says about "yeah but mods do this and mods that with flavor"

there's no fucking way in hell that character is ever aligned with the institute in any universe whatsoever, and there are no other institute-aligned "prototype synths".

So there.

ETL

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Wow are you literal. It's the timing and the tone - something I've maintained since yesterday. The flavor is just icing.

[Ouroboros]

<3<3 Kaede.

And uh, no ETL. You said what you said. You might have meant something else.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Wow are you literal. It's the timing and the tone - something I've maintained since yesterday. The flavor is just icing.

let's disregard flavor completely and focus on the former 2 then, because as i said, flavor is irrelevant to alignment, it might not be irrelevant to role, but any mod worth their salt wouldnt let their games be flavor broken.

[Dunnstral]

You guys might have a better shot at engaging people if you didn't post hundreds of posts when everyone else has like 20

This is at least a little disingenuous

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I really don't feel like going into my ISO to quote all the times I talked about wilky's method of countering dave. But go ahead. spin whatever fucking narrative you want. You're a fucking bully and I don't want to FUCKING TALK TO YOU. LEAVE ME ALONE.

[Impossibear]

[quote="In post 1233, Impossibear"]

Pseudo Vote Count

wilky (3):

MariaR, Ouroboros, Tchill13,

Dunnstral (2):

Ankamius,

Kokichi Oma (2):

Dunnstral

Ankamius (2):

Ramcius,

Impossibear (1):

hebichan

Ramcius (1):

wilky

Tchill (3):

wraith, Impossibear, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE

Not Voting:

Kokichi Oma, Nero Cain, Alchemist21, Kaede Akamatsu, davesaz,

With

16

alive,

9

to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2018-05-27 22:26:54)

Spoiler: Ramcius wagon (Actual Votes For Quest)

Wilky, Ramcius, Impossibear,

Jungle, vote Ramcius.

Everyone else, for the love of god use pseudovotes for now.

[Dunnstral]

You're a fucking bully and I don't want to FUCKING TALK TO YOU. LEAVE ME ALONE.

How about, let's claim IC before there's any reason to!!!!!!!!!!!

YEAH! THAT'S A GREAT IDEA!! WOO!

Look, I can grab stuff out of context too.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I really don't feel like going into my ISO to quote all the times I talked about wilky's method of countering dave. But go ahead. spin whatever fucking narrative you want. You're a fucking bully and I don't want to FUCKING TALK TO YOU. LEAVE ME ALONE.

I've talked about it several times and why i felt it came from a scum mindset, yet you seem to be ignoring it and complainig that RC is ignoring you. RC has no flavor experience, as nor do I, so for us anything flavor related is irrelevant, RC has talked about the reasons they scumread wilky (or I believe they did) as have I.

There's no scum motivation for either of them to claim miller, but that's not a town tell either, simply put if you're miller everyone knows you should claim it in your first post. wilky's entrance was kinda towny, but then he started pushing the flavor claim as if it would confirm his alignment and that's how i started getting suspicious of it, I mentioned this back in day 1 too.

[Ramcius]

You guys might have a better shot at engaging people if you didn't post hundreds of posts when everyone else has like 20

This is at least a little disingenuous

i see why people want lynch you - instead of doing something productive you complain about people trying advance game

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I really don't feel like going into my ISO to quote all the times I talked about wilky's method of countering dave. But go ahead. spin whatever fucking narrative you want. You're a fucking bully and I don't want to FUCKING TALK TO YOU. LEAVE ME ALONE.

I've talked about it several times and why i felt it came from a scum mindset, yet you seem to be ignoring it and complainig that RC is ignoring you. RC has no flavor experience, as nor do I, so for us anything flavor related is irrelevant, RC has talked about the reasons they scumread wilky (or I believe they did) as have I.

There's no scum motivation for either of them to claim miller, but that's not a town tell either, simply put if you're miller everyone knows you should claim it in your first post. wilky's entrance was kinda towny, but then he started pushing the flavor claim as if it would confirm his alignment and that's how i started getting suspicious of it, I mentioned this back in day 1 too.

JINGLE PLEASE QUOTE MY SLIP PLEASE

1384 wasn't directed at you.

but i appreciate the explanation. this is the first time i feel like i understand where you are coming from. i need to leave this thing. i'm upset and not having fun.

[Impossibear]

You're a fucking bully and I don't want to FUCKING TALK TO YOU. LEAVE ME ALONE.

How about, let's claim IC before there's any reason to!!!!!!!!!!!

YEAH! THAT'S A GREAT IDEA!! WOO!

Look, I can grab stuff out of context too.

If you're town, you're throwing gas on a fire between two pseudoconfirmed town players and a nearly confirmed town player, and I'd like you to pull your head out of your ass. If you're scum, continue, because I will lynch you for it.

[Impossibear]

Spoiler: ETL

I really don't feel like going into my ISO to quote all the times I talked about wilky's method of countering dave. But go ahead. spin whatever fucking narrative you want. You're a fucking bully and I don't want to FUCKING TALK TO YOU. LEAVE ME ALONE.

I've talked about it several times and why i felt it came from a scum mindset, yet you seem to be ignoring it and complainig that RC is ignoring you. RC has no flavor experience, as nor do I, so for us anything flavor related is irrelevant, RC has talked about the reasons they scumread wilky (or I believe they did) as have I.

There's no scum motivation for either of them to claim miller, but that's not a town tell either, simply put if you're miller everyone knows you should claim it in your first post. wilky's entrance was kinda towny, but then he started pushing the flavor claim as if it would confirm his alignment and that's how i started getting suspicious of it, I mentioned this back in day 1 too.

JINGLE PLEASE QUOTE MY SLIP PLEASE

1384 wasn't directed at you.

but i appreciate the explanation. this is the first time i feel like i understand where you are coming from. i need to leave this thing. i'm upset and not having fun.

I really don't feel like going into my ISO to quote all the times I talked about wilky's method of countering dave. But go ahead. spin whatever fucking narrative you want. You're a fucking bully and I don't want to FUCKING TALK TO YOU. LEAVE ME ALONE.

Wow are you literal. It's the timing and the tone - something I've maintained since yesterday. The flavor is just icing.

How about, let's claim IC before there's any reason to!!!!!!!!!!!

YEAH! THAT'S A GREAT IDEA!! WOO!

Hey ETL, here's an excellent idea, since you're so knowledgeable of the flavor of this game, and since flavor is so indicative of one's alignment, let's have everyone mass flavor claim so you can tell us who's scum!
Sounds like something GIF would let happen right?!!

wtf is this... when did I ever say that was the only reason I was townreading him? Not to mention, this is rude as hell.. who the fuck actually believes this? You really think I am this fucking stupid?

jfc...

[Impossibear]

I've talked about it several times and why i felt it came from a scum mindset, yet you seem to be ignoring it and complainig that RC is ignoring you. RC has no flavor experience, as nor do I, so for us anything flavor related is irrelevant, RC has talked about the reasons they scumread wilky (or I believe they did) as have I.

I'll address why we think it can be from a town mindset when I have a little more free time. But again, I'm not arguing that wilky can't be scum. I'm asking for a stay of execution for one day. That shouldn't require as much faith on your part as sheeping us.

What're your thoughts on the Tchill reasoning?

And I'm headed out now, but hopefully I'll post again tonight.

~Jingle

[Ouroboros]

you lost your rights to a stay of execution for one day based off of yesterday, sorry.

you're also not confirmed town as of right now and until you become confirmed town I'm not going to treat you like confirmed town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What're your thoughts on the Tchill reasoning?

I'll check it later, im gonna be busy soon, but i'll quote this to you as a food for thought regarding tchill:

As I understand it it's a normal hider without the "weak to scum" part, so they wont die from hiding behind scum, they wont be affected by night actions if they hide, and they will die if their target is shot.
That seems like a way convoluted way to fake claim for a scum commuter if you ask me.

Dunno if your reasoning has something to do with this or not, but that's my current way of thinking.

[Ouroboros]

like you call me out for abusing strength of personality but you have had 0 rebuttal to all the points I've made about wilky, you're just trying to force of personality a defense. you guys called me toxic for force of personalitying my push yesterday and yet you're trying to do the same thing today when I've gone out of my way to ground my push in stuff that can be discussed universally.

let's get the unvotes so you can get the third vote on Wilky and then we'll get the L-1 and then you can hammer them.
even if I'm wrong here you guys still completely failed to address the reasons that I've given to want this lynch.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

you lost your rights to a stay of execution for one day based off of yesterday, sorry.

you're also not confirmed town as of right now and until you become confirmed town I'm not going to treat you like confirmed town.

who the fuck do you think you are? everyone in the thread has a RIGHT to argue their point. STOP. FUCKING. TALKING. TO US.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

YOU

ARE

TOXIC?!???? You think at ok to steamroll everyone in a game. It's not. Whether you're right or wrong doesn't justify being a bully who treats everyone like they are beneath you or like they're stupid. That's not the way to speak to anyone.

LEAVE. US. ALONE.

[Ouroboros]

OK.

Let's bring Wilky down to 2 votes. If ETL hydra fails to vote them they are scumclaiming and we lynch them instead today.

[Ouroboros]

UNVOTE:

Need 1 more unvote.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

like you call me out for abusing strength of personality but you have had 0 rebuttal to all the points I've made about wilky, you're just trying to force of personality a defense. you guys called me toxic for force of personalitying my push yesterday and yet you're trying to do the same thing today when I've gone out of my way to ground my push in stuff that can be discussed universally.

let's get the unvotes so you can get the third vote on Wilky and then we'll get the L-1 and then you can hammer them.
even if I'm wrong here you guys still completely failed to address the reasons that I've given to want this lynch.

you have got to be kidding me. we absolutely addressed your "points". saying we didn't doesn't make t so.

whatever. don't care. don't join any of my games in the future. if i had known i wouldn't have joined this one.

[Ouroboros]

y the fuck would I ever want to play with someone like you

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also before I go, here's other thoughts i've thought regarding tchill:

tchill if town can dodge bullets (and other night actions) on the risk of their target getting shot.
tchill if scum is either a commuter that made a convoluted way of fake claiming commuter (I dont think so), or is a scum hider who risks getting shot by the vig if hiding behind someone that's being shot.

Regardless of any of these situations he cant be tracked and so long as he doesnt die from hiding behind someone that's shot it's hard to confirm it as well.
If he's suspected of being scum i think the better scenario would be to force him to choose a hiding target before night begins, and then scum either know he's town and shoot anyway, removing that uncertainty from us, or cant shoot coz it would give away their cover.