Scummies Ideas, Suggestions and Comments Thread

[Pine]

I concur with LQ on this. I understand why the Scummies have been slimmed down and conflated a bit, but there ought to be some venue for recognition of older players who undergo a personal renaissance.

[Pine]

"Blast from the past" maybe? Older vet players (At least 3 years old) who came back form an extended break and had a great game?

*perks up*

[Pine]

I want a Cleverest/Most Entertaining Gimmick Alt award. My boy Caesar Wills It is a shoe-in.

[Pine]

Okay, I read that like four times and are you asking: "Are there any active hydras that play in more than one game together?"

Calcifer (Nacho + Mastina)

[Pine]

Still think there should be a Best Town Performance award (just nominate who has actually influenced town).

Seriously, I'm seeing good town performances (mini 1869) being nominated for Kodak Moment.

Didn't we have a Best Performance in a Losing Cause award at one point? That's something I'd love to see make a return, several Town players in Camn's Revenge (mini 1869) would be worthy of a nomination.

[Pine]

To expand my point, it seems to be implied that a Best Scum/Town/Third Party nominee is defined as someone(s) who won in a particularly impressive fashion, which results in a de facto state that only winners are nominated. Well, what if both sides are performing at Scummy-worthy caliber? How about a Townie who is absolutely wrecking the scumteam, but gets nightkilled and loses because the rest of the Town drops the ball? How about the Don Corleone level scum player who gets killed by the Serial Killer or opposing scumteam for being too Town?

There are lots of situations where someone puts in a remarkable performance, but due to worthy opposition or circumstances outside their direct control, ends up losing anyway. I'd like to see those folks recognized.

Yes, I know, it overlaps with Best Town/Scum/TP, but this is a specific reward for someone who was already robbed of a deserved win, and is worthy of recognition.

[Pine]

Not necessarily; this is looking to recognize something quite specific. You may also have a player who has a stellar individual game, but isn't really a candidate for a body of work award.

This is also where I agitate for a Body of Work - Scum award and a single-game Best Town Performance award. Rabble rabble rabble.

[Pine]

It may sharpen my recollections that those were the Scummies in progress when I was a Newbie.

[Pine]

Okay, then perhaps let us shift the conversation to the lack of a BoW Scum award or a single-game Town award.

[Pine]

Shrug. Good Townplay to me is not about guessing correctly, it's about the process. Just like I wouldn't nom a scum player/team for roflstomping a clueless and bickering Town, a clean Town win against a disorganized scumteam is hollow. Good Townplay is about the cool use of logic and perception against a worthy opponent, effectively gamesolving despite obstacles. A single-game Town award to me would look like a single player or a strong Townbloc defeating capable opposition, particularly if the scumteam possessed an initial advantage and the Townies rallied or came together, overcoming division to unify through leadership and teamwork.

There's quite a big difference between single-game performance, which may be influenced by environment, playerlist, circumstance, and the price of milk in Newark, versus consistent patterns of solid play as represented in BoW awards. It has never made sense to me why Town was a BoW and scum an individual award.

[Pine]

I don't know about the BoW Town award, but the Excellent Moderation BoW award requires links to at least three example games in the year in question. I would presume all BoW awards operate similarly

[Pine]

Is it worth trying to argue for Best Town Performance and Best Scum Performance team awards to come back?

Because I still think it's pretty lame that they don't exist anymore

Same ^

Agreed. I think there is a substantive and important difference between outstanding individual performances and instances where an entire team is firing on all cylinders and working together. Not to mention that all of the team noms for Don Corleone last year seemed to have been discarded out of hand...

[Pine]

Ermagerd a Faraday

[Pine]

Some things have been discussed. We're not at liberty to discuss exactly what, as official information comes from the Chair, but we are interested in diversification.

The new SSC is energetic, dynamic, and very interested in what the community has to say. However, as we are already more than a quarter of the way through the year, and coming up hard on 1/3, our marching orders are small changes only.

[Pine]

For a few awards we have open voting, following the intent of a fan-favorite Game of the Year etc. The SSC and volunteer judges select finalists for those (and other) categories, then debate and select the winners of the rest of the worlds.

Volunteer to be a judge next year