Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[davesaz]

That totally lines up with Hebichan's d1 read on me. And it lines up with my PR read on the slot.

It wouldn't affect the night's results given I don't have an action to begin with, but if town feels I must be removed given miller, I'd understand it. No mislynch is ever

good

but whatever is needed.

Oh this isn’t regarding Miller.

I would want you unless town confirmed IC. You were blocked and we are missing a kill.

Doing this shows whether it is you who did the kill or if scum tried to shoot ETL.

I thought it was ETL because mod didn’t tell me about Dave.

Actually lynching me gives you a town flip but it still doesn't clear Impossibear. Scum hitting the BP makes sense if they're actually a BP vig, but if they're scum claiming MWNN kill then it doesn't resolve anything.

I think we're both town and something else happened to the kill. Maybe scum also killed MWNN despite the "hey that's an obvious stupid move" you're hearing from other slots.

[OnTheMark]

i don't think this is good jingle. too many variables. both could be town and if dave flips town half the thread will want to lynch otm who could also be town. then that's 3 down plus night kills. we have to wait for more

Dude

I am legit being modkilled.

No one will ever lynch my slot after what hebichan did. You’d have to make an argument that is so far gone out of left field Hebichan correcting the mod error publically removes reasonable doubt that I can be scum.

We’re lynching Dave.

[Impossibear]

why would he be modkilled?

[Alchemist21]

Part of me wonders why we're assuming Town Roleblocker and not scum Roleblocker here. The other part of me thinks scum wouldn't have claimed here anyway.

Because we're on a deadline to get information if Math is going to get modkilled, so we make the assumptions that net the most usable information, cutting down on wasted time. We can reconsider if no mod action happens, but worrying about Math's alignment is literally the last concern we should have atm.

Fair enough.

[OnTheMark]

Part of me wonders why we're assuming Town Roleblocker and not scum Roleblocker here. The other part of me thinks scum wouldn't have claimed here anyway.

Because we're on a deadline to get information if Math is going to get modkilled, so we make the assumptions that net the most usable information, cutting down on wasted time. We can reconsider if no mod action happens, but worrying about Math's alignment is literally the last concern we should have atm.

Fair enough.

@Impossibear

You wanna make this argument?

[Impossibear]

i don't think this is good jingle. too many variables. both could be town and if dave flips town half the thread will want to lynch otm who could also be town. then that's 3 down plus night kills. we have to wait for more

Agreed, I don't think we treat this as a hard guilty. It IS possible that scum caught my crumbs and shot us. Which is why (Other than the whole cop thing) this isn't a turbowagon.

[Impossibear]

i don't know what's going on mark. sorry. i'll let jingle go on

[OnTheMark]

Part of me wonders why we're assuming Town Roleblocker and not scum Roleblocker here. The other part of me thinks scum wouldn't have claimed here anyway.

Lol uhmmm yes because Hebichan as scum would completely ignore scum chat, randomly post that she blocked someone despite me crumbling and literally saying otherwise. She would also completely ignore scum chat and then randomly post resulting in the slots inevitable mod kill. Because scum wins through modkilling themselves!

That’s a brilliant plan that I will never ever try.

Impossibear sorry this one.

If you think you can make this argument stick go right ahead. I would love to play.

But quite rationally I accept I am being modkillef.

[Impossibear]

Part of me wonders why we're assuming Town Roleblocker and not scum Roleblocker here. The other part of me thinks scum wouldn't have claimed here anyway.

Because we're on a deadline to get information if Math is going to get modkilled, so we make the assumptions that net the most usable information, cutting down on wasted time. We can reconsider if no mod action happens, but worrying about Math's alignment is literally the last concern we should have atm.

Fair enough.

@Impossibear

You wanna make this argument?

That I should reevaluate if you don't get modkilled? Yes. I'm operating under the assumption that you're town, because we don't have time to do otherwise. If we do have time to do otherwise, I stop talking off the seat of my pants and step back.

I also need to check and see from a balance perspective if it's possible town has more power/this much power, what this means for the Tchill claim, whether any specific players are scum, etc.

[Impossibear]

Waste of limited time for now. I need to think about it if you don't die. I don't need to think about it if you do.

[Impossibear]

Based on roleswapper dave is not actually a miller if scum.

Thus, if dave is scum, RC has huge scum equity.

[OnTheMark]

Without accusing me or hebi of cheating we cannot be scum. That will likely modkill me.

I kinda have weird feelings about impossibear.

RC Impossibear Davesaz?

[Dunnstral]

I'm not moving my vote right now because I think I'm needed wherever I'm voting for the l-1 thing? I lost track

[Impossibear]

If you get modkilled and it ends the day I'm not getting copped and am probably a paranoia lynch at some point in case I'm a serial killer. Otherwise, we really don't have to worry about me.

[OnTheMark]

2.05

wilky (2):

MariaR, Tchill13

Ramcius (3):

wilky, Dunnstral, projectmatt

Tchill13 (5):

Wraith, Kaede Akamatsu, Impossibear, Kokichi Oma, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE

Kokichi Oma (2):

Ankamius OnTheMark

Wraith (1):

Ouroboros

Not Voting:

Alchemist21, davesaz, Ramcius

With

16

alive,

9

to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2018-05-27 22:26:54)

VOTE: Tchill13

I do not scumread Tchill13 I just want the quest thing done so we can move on.

I think Tchill13 is l-1

[Ouroboros]

Gimme my wraith Lynch thanks.

[Impossibear]

I lost track, but if a modkill ends the day we literally cannot be the hammer vote.

[Alchemist21]

Oh yeah if the Modkill ends the Day we ... Well the quest might be failed since Impossibear can't hammer a wagon.

[Impossibear]

So no one should vote Tchill while we try to figure this out, JIC.

[davesaz]

I think we're both town and something else happened to the kill. Maybe scum also killed MWNN despite the "hey that's an obvious stupid move" you're hearing from other slots.

Eh, if we're both town then they are a BP. That's what I get for tacking on to a post that was done.

But the other point I was making in that post is still correct, my town flip doesn't clear Impossibear so that's a stupid reason to flip me. If you believe the BP and you believe they'd be targeted then you should look somewhere else because a RB is meaningless in that circumstance.

Hint: I'm town by meta regardless -- if you don't see me desperately trying to make a case on someone, I'm not desperate.
Let's not forget to finish the quest. Then whatever you want to do...

[OnTheMark]

Gimme my wraith Lynch thanks.

Not a chance in hell.

Davesaz first. If Dave flips red RC
Davesaz first. If Dave flips town then figure out what happened with the NK. Might be time for mass claim

This is what happens today. Hammering Tchill13 is a scumclaim. Even if Tchill13 flips scum.

[Impossibear]

Might be time for mass claim

Not before this situation resolves. If we don't get a lynch afterwards, there's no point in risking scum getting a free shot on any counterclaiming town power.

If we were the nightkill, who is scum?

[OnTheMark]

Might be time for mass claim

Not before this situation resolves. If we don't get a lynch afterwards, there's no point in risking scum getting a free shot on any counterclaiming town power.

If we were the nightkill, who is scum?

That’s what I was asking.

I really wanted RC’s opinion on it. :/ Like literally anyone and I woulda townread him.

What do you think?

And yes I am dodging the question I don’t want to control the narrative.

[davesaz]

You never replied to me on whether you're interested in a meta answer, gamestate answer, or both...

[OnTheMark]

You never replied to me on whether you're interested in a meta answer, gamestate answer, or both...

I am not really and I don’t remember what this in regards to.

I just know that you need to die.