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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 3:35 am

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In post 1161, acryon wrote:
In post 499, Katsuki wrote:Theres a theory I wanna test out and I think it's possible that screenplay may be scum.

VOTE: SCREENPLAY
@Katsuki: What was the "theory" you were testing out here?
Someone mentioned some sort of meta tell for Screenplay scum offsite around that time and it seemed to apply here. Looks like it was wrong.
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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 3:39 am

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In post 1175, Katsuki wrote:
In post 1161, acryon wrote:
In post 499, Katsuki wrote:Theres a theory I wanna test out and I think it's possible that screenplay may be scum.

VOTE: SCREENPLAY
@Katsuki: What was the "theory" you were testing out here?
Someone mentioned some sort of meta tell for Screenplay scum offsite around that time and it seemed to apply here. Looks like it was wrong.
Also were you motivated?
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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 3:57 am

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Maybe.
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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:00 am

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katsuki who is scum?
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:01 am

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No one replied to my posts :(
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:02 am

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Toranaga's ISO is pure anti spew.
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:07 am

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Vote me most popular hurry up. And we lynch nico today
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:14 am

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In post 1166, acryon wrote:
In post 1163, Taly wrote:Acryon, you lost me when you boiled my vote down to a Wisdom sheep.

1) I'm pretty sure you were replaceable with that hammer.
2) If you cared about claiming, why didn't you try to slow down the votes?
3) Why is Purr so bad? You're not giving a valid assessment here.
4) I get you're trying to narrow options here, but you're not looking at the full "who voted for what" with the dayphase powers... So I don't know what all connections you're making to support your idea for people being scum, when it's possible they are just wrong town.
5) I stated my case for Katsuki. Do you have a reply to that?
6) Thoughts on Misaka?
1) Maybe
Why maybe? Did you think people were magically going to unvote Toranga at L-2?

And if you DID think Tiranga was in no danger of an actual lynch, why want a claim in the first place?

Your reasons and actions do not line up.
acryon wrote:2) Because it seemed unlikely he would show up anyway.
....Your post asking for a claim was 7 posts away from your hammer.

The only thing that changed in the game between those posts was KidAmn voting Toranga.

You didn't really give time for a claim, I would argue

Your position on Torangas lynch seemed to have changed upon him being pushed to L-1

You didn't even really express intent for the lynch.
acryon wrote:3) Yeah probably not. It's still primarily gut, which is why I'm not doing anything there.
Gut reads progressively lose validity after D1.

If you're going to cast suspicion on Purr then provide a reason.
acryon wrote:4) I'm still not sure what to make of the dayphase powers, so not going to make a decision based on it. Of course it's always possible they are wrong town, but I need to start somewhere today, so this is my way of narrowing down the playerbase for starters.
Here's an easy decision.

SCREWING SCUM OVER IS GOOD. Option 3 nullifies them.

Option 1 should've been best utilized if many people felt someone was confscum. Yes, our 2nd lynch did hit scum, but it's impractical and unhelpful to say "I don't know what's best to do" for Town in every fashion.

You VOTED for a 2nd lynch, but you were a vote on the dumb mislynch of Screen, and I haven't found what made you think Tiranga was scum in the first place.
acryon wrote:5) I like it, but I'm wary about pushing on your alternative lynch to me, because it feels like that will just distract from finding the truth. Trying to eliminate the noise.
Didn't you JUST day that Katsuki was on screen wagon and off toranga wagon and stated that we should look their for our lynchpool?

It feels to me that you're hesitant in constructing a well reasoned push.

My case on Katsuki was NOT solely because he is noise.

You're not providing unique content for your thinking. You're minimizing mine because I'm likely correct.
acryon wrote:6) Feel better about the slot than Katsuki, although not by much. Neither player has actually done much, but I do like the vote and questioning on Creature, mostly because I felt the same way so I feel like it was genuine.
...Misaka was also in your lynchpool that you gave less than 4 hours ago.

Why is Misaka better? Why aren't you voting or pushing the people you suspect?
In post 1169, acryon wrote:What adjustment? The point is that I did
not
make an adjustment. I did a clean cut based on votes.

Wheme is not in my pool because I just made the lists based on votes. I don't have a lot of time to play mafia, so this seemed easier than looking at every player's ISO to see if they should've been specially included/excluded my list.

You can argue I should've made an adjustment, but given my time, I chose to do it simply. Wheme probably should be on, but he's not, which is fine for me right now because I think the two people I got to are very reasonable slots to look into for scum.
What's odd about Wisdom wanting to know your pool? I think non end of wagon votes matter as well.

And what 2 slots do you think are scum? Because apparently you don't think Misaka and Katsuki are worthy pushes???

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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:14 am

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yeah no. we lynch acryon
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:15 am

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that was @kokichi
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:15 am

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In post 1181, Kokichi Oma wrote:Vote me most popular hurry up. And we lynch nico today
QUIT BEING SHIT TOWN
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:16 am

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Hi Katsuki, I exist.

Also beeboy, Toranga is dead.

Talk to me about living reads. <3
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:35 am

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I'm waiting for more Acryon votes.
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:37 am

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Also Acryon if you townread me and
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I'm sheeping Wisdom

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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:38 am

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In post 1182, Taly wrote:
In post 1166, acryon wrote:
In post 1163, Taly wrote:Acryon, you lost me when you boiled my vote down to a Wisdom sheep.

1) I'm pretty sure you were replaceable with that hammer.
2) If you cared about claiming, why didn't you try to slow down the votes?
3) Why is Purr so bad? You're not giving a valid assessment here.
4) I get you're trying to narrow options here, but you're not looking at the full "who voted for what" with the dayphase powers... So I don't know what all connections you're making to support your idea for people being scum, when it's possible they are just wrong town.
5) I stated my case for Katsuki. Do you have a reply to that?
6) Thoughts on Misaka?
1) Maybe
Why maybe? Did you think people were magically going to unvote Toranga at L-2?

And if you DID think Tiranga was in no danger of an actual lynch, why want a claim in the first place?
It's possible. And typically that's the right way to play things as town, but after hearing others' opinions, I agreed he would likely not show up anyway.
In post 1182, Taly wrote:Your reasons and actions do not line up.
acryon wrote:2) Because it seemed unlikely he would show up anyway.
....Your post asking for a claim was 7 posts away from your hammer.

The only thing that changed in the game between those posts was KidAmn voting Toranga.

You didn't really give time for a claim, I would argue

Your position on Torangas lynch seemed to have changed upon him being pushed to L-1

You didn't even really express intent for the lynch.
I would agree I didn't give time for a claim; I don't think anyone would argue that. However I absolutely expressed intent for a lynch. Is no explicit enough for you?
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acryon wrote:3) Yeah probably not. It's still primarily gut, which is why I'm not doing anything there.
Gut reads progressively lose validity after D1.

If you're going to cast suspicion on Purr then provide a reason.
I agree, but it's literally the very start of D2 so let's give it some time. Again, there's a reason I'm not pushing there.
In post 1182, Taly wrote:
acryon wrote:4) I'm still not sure what to make of the dayphase powers, so not going to make a decision based on it. Of course it's always possible they are wrong town, but I need to start somewhere today, so this is my way of narrowing down the playerbase for starters.
Here's an easy decision.

SCREWING SCUM OVER IS GOOD. Option 3 nullifies them.

Option 1 should've been best utilized if many people felt someone was confscum. Yes, our 2nd lynch did hit scum, but it's impractical and unhelpful to say "I don't know what's best to do" for Town in every fashion.

You VOTED for a 2nd lynch, but you were a vote on the dumb mislynch of Screen, and I haven't found what made you think Tiranga was scum in the first place.
Obviously if I knew we weren't going to get a Srceen flip, then number 1 looks bad. You can't punish people for not expecting that. Also, sorry you weren't around to be able to tell us your strong feelings on which option to choose, but it was the majority choice for a reason.
In post 1182, Taly wrote:
acryon wrote:5) I like it, but I'm wary about pushing on your alternative lynch to me, because it feels like that will just distract from finding the truth. Trying to eliminate the noise.
Didn't you JUST day that Katsuki was on screen wagon and off toranga wagon and stated that we should look their for our lynchpool?

It feels to me that you're hesitant in constructing a well reasoned push.

My case on Katsuki was NOT solely because he is noise.

You're not providing unique content for your thinking. You're minimizing mine because I'm likely correct.
You misunderstood my post. I am not calling your case noise. Let me be more clear. If I were to strongly jump onto your Katsuki vote, all it does it draw more people to me because it looks bad for me to jump on your alternative lynch. If Katsuki is scum, I think the path to getting the slot lynched is letting your case play out and letting me ask questions. Me sheeping your case will distract people from a proper case by making them focus on me looking opportunistic. I would be the noise in that case, not you.
In post 1182, Taly wrote:
acryon wrote:6) Feel better about the slot than Katsuki, although not by much. Neither player has actually done much, but I do like the vote and questioning on Creature, mostly because I felt the same way so I feel like it was genuine.
...Misaka was also in your lynchpool that you gave less than 4 hours ago.

Why is Misaka better? Why aren't you voting or pushing the people you suspect?
Mostly gut. Neither has actually said much, but Misaka is better for the reason I said. Both are still my lynchpool.
In post 1182, Taly wrote:
In post 1169, acryon wrote:What adjustment? The point is that I did
not
make an adjustment. I did a clean cut based on votes.

Wheme is not in my pool because I just made the lists based on votes. I don't have a lot of time to play mafia, so this seemed easier than looking at every player's ISO to see if they should've been specially included/excluded my list.

You can argue I should've made an adjustment, but given my time, I chose to do it simply. Wheme probably should be on, but he's not, which is fine for me right now because I think the two people I got to are very reasonable slots to look into for scum.
What's odd about Wisdom wanting to know your pool? I think non end of wagon votes matter as well.

And what 2 slots do you think are scum? Because apparently you don't think Misaka and Katsuki are worthy pushes???

~~

Yeah, the more I read Acryon, the more inconsistencies I find with them and think theres a strong associative argument with him and my other scumreads

Why are people shitposting instead of voting?
There is nothing odd about him wanting to know my pool. There is something odd about him being confused why I'm not including myself in my lynchpool, and I just don't even know what to say to someone who doesn't understand that.

At this point, I think Katsuki is likely worthy scum, but am abstaining from voting for the moment because the reasons I laid out above. My goal is to find scum, not create noise. I'm not particularly worried about actually getting lynched, but the fact is that from my perspective drawing votes onto myself is bad for town, so I'm going to try to avoid it.
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:43 am

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In post 1188, Taly wrote:Also Acryon if you townread me and
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I'm sheeping Wisdom

Then why aren't you trying to convince me your reads? Do you have scumreads?
Town requires tact too, which I'm attempting to exercise.

I can put together a full readslist, but I doubt it placates my critics. The truth is my reads are largely gut-driven at this point. Yesterday was a bit of a mess with the 2nd half being such a non-day and so many people lurking. It's very possible most scum exists in the lurkers.
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 5:54 am

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I was massively busy and will continue to be busy until Friday or so.

I have some things to claim to help town scumhunt:

I motivated Katsuki last day.

I gained 1-shot track at the start of night last night.

I tracked Katsuki to myself and Katsuki.

Start of day 2, I have become loved and it takes one more vote to lynch me than usual.


I'm guessing Katsuki's power was lover maker and he picked me and him for his targets.

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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 5:56 am

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why was that worth motivating
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 6:00 am

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How did you gain 1-shot tracker at the start of the night?
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 6:01 am

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Dunno but I'm guessing that no one had big powers in the first place

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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 6:03 am

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In post 1194, FakeGod wrote:Dunno but I'm guessing that no one had big powers in the first place

Dunno how I got the tracker
My point is how did she have two abilities for D1/N1? We picked abilities for D2/N2, so the only way to track someone N1 was if you had the ability already. But the ability they had was motivator.
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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 6:05 am

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Someone prob had day one track inventor and picked me
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 6:07 am

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someone sent it to them during d1 obviously
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 6:08 am

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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 6:08 am

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In post 1186, Taly wrote:Hi Katsuki, I exist.
?

What do you want me to say to you outside of that all your points regarding me were a hot steaming pile of shit?
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