Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[Ouroboros]

I can 100% tell you the RC isn't scum

Why?

And yeah I know 5 man scumteam doesn’t make sense logically.
But if we are going by “feels” and not logic, that’s who I would say the team is.

Your feels are that anyone who contradicts you agenda is scum, this is exactly the shit you pulled in Civilization, if I were scum I know exactly how to push your buttons and let you throw the game and you know it.
Davesaz isn't never scum but we're lynching Wraith today and we'll deal with davesaz later.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kaede.

Can I please point out to you that even in twilight I had a knee jerk feeling about Wraith and said to instalynch them tomorrow?
Then I stopped scumreading them basically because they were on the wagon, but when I actually went back through the game again I didn't like them so much.

You found my Ventriloquist development scummy as well: anyone in this game can verify that me changing reads is at worst a null tell and that presence or absence of snap read changes is how some people read me.

Well you havent explained yet what caused the 180, hence it's a 180 that popped out of nowhere, i.e magical.

[Kokichi Oma]

Well Maria, when you read me as scum, it's hard to trust you on any of your reads since you're wrong on me

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kokichi's 100% town yes.

[Wraith]

Okay lynch me and then stop fucking listening to RC

Deal?

This will be a win-win since I won't have to bother catching up.

[MariaR]

Kokichi's 100% town yes.

Yeah I'm gonna need you to explain this one please

[Ouroboros]

Meh.

I actually don't want to play this game anymore.

I'll talk to anonymousghost.

[Dunnstral]

I'm just waiting for this game to become fun for myself again at this point.
Pedit: I don't understand that vote

Well I can't get Kokichi today, I'd rather lynch Wraith than Dave, I townread dave and tchill

Why Tchi?
Why is Wraith scum?

I don't have good reasons for Wraith, I'm just joining the wagon. Tchill's claim was towny, and I haven't seen a reason to jump at them from their play

Disagree on Tchi can you read Wraith and give me your thoughts.

Finally some god dam interaction up in here.
Pedit: It's not as black and white as you're presenting it to be Math

Yes. It is.

There is no other protective or they would claim.

If another protective exists it is scum. Too much power rule.

Since there is no other town protective then it’s literally scum shot ETL or Dave did the kill.

That is it.

I don't see dave's play as scummy or the type of player to fake claim miller he's very laid back with his play and drawing a light to himself with the miller claim is very ? I don't get why he'd do that. I don't want to throw my dave tr out the window when we don't have all the facts in play and just lynching dave is the easy play

Wraith looks scummy to me, half their posts are complaining about game length and he pushes tchill which I find scummy

[MariaR]

Well Maria, when you read me as scum, it's hard to trust you on any of your reads since you're wrong on me

That's shitty logic and you know it. You've read me wrong I've read you wrong it happens.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kokichi's 100% town yes.

Yeah I'm gonna need you to explain this one please

Except I already did.
You know during your "Let's ignore Kaede" phase.

[Ouroboros]

Well Maria, when you read me as scum, it's hard to trust you on any of your reads since you're wrong on me

That's shitty logic and you know it. You've read me wrong I've read you wrong it happens.

He wasn't calling you scum btw, he was saying that he doesn't trust your judgement.

[Dunnstral]

Okay lynch me and then stop fucking listening to RC

Deal?

This will be a win-win since I won't have to bother catching up.

This post makes me second-guess though

[MariaR]

Why is it scummy when he pushes Tchill but not when I do it (you have me as town last I recall)
Pedit: Then quote it please and stop with w/e you're doing I already said why I think we should ignore you.
Pedit2: I know this

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well Maria, when you read me as scum, it's hard to trust you on any of your reads since you're wrong on me

That's shitty logic and you know it. You've read me wrong I've read you wrong it happens.

Actually I do agree with MariaR here xD
I mean there's been several games where you're scumread, not exclusing DRV3 mafia.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kokichi being obvscum is kokichi being kokichi.
I mean if you ever read DRV3 mafia I had to defend him from Wisdom and co all fricken day 1.
OTOH, the only time i've seen Kokichi scum is when i spectated Steam VN upick and i could hardly tell he was scum at first.

Basically he doesnt look like the type of scum player that would make a blunder like "refering to a vig when they know their shot failed", and even then, he did initially think that was a scum shot (hence the "how ironic" statement).
Double that into the fact that Vent's post were proven to be doctored on a scum PT, and i dont think you're gonna catch scum by conventional means specially if RC's part of it.
Alchemist seems to think otherwise tho, but i dont get it (even tho he already explained it to me)

[Ouroboros]

Okay lynch me and then stop fucking listening to RC

Deal?

This will be a win-win since I won't have to bother catching up.

This post makes me second-guess though

yeah it made me second guess as well

[Dunnstral]

Pushing tchill is most of what he's done this game, though, so it's most of what I have to go off of, you have other interactions

[Wraith]

Yeah Dunn I tend to get disengaged from being proactive when I'm constantly scumread by everyone for literally no reason.

This is absurd, just mercy kill me so my presence is no longer poisoning the efforts to catch avtual scum

[MariaR]

Kokichi being obvscum is kokichi being kokichi.
I mean if you ever read DRV3 mafia I had to defend him from Wisdom and co all fricken day 1.
OTOH, the only time i've seen Kokichi scum is when i spectated Steam VN upick and i could hardly tell he was scum at first.

Basically he doesnt look like the type of scum player that would make a blunder like "refering to a vig when they know their shot failed", and even then, he did initially think that was a scum shot (hence the "how ironic" statement).
Double that into the fact that Vent's post were proven to be doctored on a scum PT, and i dont think you're gonna catch scum by conventional means specially if RC's part of it.
Alchemist seems to think otherwise tho, but i dont get it (even tho he already explained it to me)

I can't disagree with it mostly because I don't think I fully understand your line of thinking. You don't think he's scum because he wouldn't dumb tell the vig thing?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kokichi being obvscum is kokichi being kokichi.
I mean if you ever read DRV3 mafia I had to defend him from Wisdom and co all fricken day 1.
OTOH, the only time i've seen Kokichi scum is when i spectated Steam VN upick and i could hardly tell he was scum at first.

Basically he doesnt look like the type of scum player that would make a blunder like "refering to a vig when they know their shot failed", and even then, he did initially think that was a scum shot (hence the "how ironic" statement).
Double that into the fact that Vent's post were proven to be doctored on a scum PT, and i dont think you're gonna catch scum by conventional means specially if RC's part of it.
Alchemist seems to think otherwise tho, but i dont get it (even tho he already explained it to me)

I can't disagree with it mostly because I don't think I fully understand your line of thinking. You don't think he's scum because he wouldn't dumb tell the vig thing?

Pretty much.

[OnTheMark]

Okay lynch me and then stop fucking listening to RC

Deal?

This will be a win-win since I won't have to bother catching up.

This post makes me second-guess though

yeah it made me second guess as well

Okay so you’re second guessing.

Is there anyone you’re willing to bet your life on is scum that is not Dave?

Because I am literally betting mine Dave is.

[MariaR]

Can we get off Wraith yet are we done with calling Wraith scum? Ty
Pedit: Alright thanks.
Pedit: REEEEEEE

[Dunnstral]

He can be scum and be genuinely confused about the vig thing....

[Ouroboros]

The fact that at least 2 of you scumreads are wrong makes me really dicey about trusting your read on davesaz.

I'm thinking

[Kaede Akamatsu]

He can be scum and be genuinely confused about the vig thing....

Not really, remember as i said, that Vent's post were doctored in the scum PT and this was proven and that's how he got lynched. This means that this scumteam is being very careful to post the right things.