Open 728: Sharing is Caring (GAME OVER)

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Little too convenient if you ask me
VOTE: Zoronos

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Third vote you say?
VOTE: NSG

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ALL HAIL

PRESIDENT

GOD EMPEROR JJH

what's on your mind zoronos? if you can end RVS effectively on page 1 I might have to marry you post-game

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ALL HAIL

PRESIDENT

GOD EMPEROR JJH

what's on your mind zoronos? if you can end RVS effectively on page 1 I might have to marry you post-game

zoro this was not a joke post

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if you can end RVS effectively on page 1 I might have to marry you post-game

Come on, duckling! You know better than to make a joke like that in my presence

lest I demand jus primae noctis

VC coming soon, btw.

Surely you would buy me dinner first....?!

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same. this has been a good 2 pages.

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blink

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Ruru strength of townread on NSG?

you wish sweetie<3

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how do you find zoro's posting so far?

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Isn't the answer to the question in the question? @ruru

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HitAlt can you talk me through 1+ of those reads?

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HWS gonna be around for a bit?

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Fwiw I like early vig shots, stops us from wasting lynches and more flips = more sm0rtness

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I'll send stress-crying tissues and chocolates :'< good luck with your exam

Actually Math described optimal n1 vigs imo so anything I'll say will be a repeat. I also hate setup spec in opens so tend to leave it to cleverer folk.

What do you think of NSG/jjh and BlackStar?

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Ducks don't eat soup
I inherently dislike this plan

But I will let you do you as long as you swear you'll actually talk about things later

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@HWS I'm vibing your reads. I actually like NSG's case for town, just not sure she's got her guy yet.

VOTE: Blackstar

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HWS gonna be around for a bit?

I am.
What you wanted from the Grandpa, you can likely get from me too.

What would you like to talk about?
I picked the grandpa because I liked his first catch up post and he was open about his reads. ATM there isn't much I wanna talk to you abt

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But I will let you do you as long as you swear you'll actually talk about things later

I don't like swearing.

the fuck not?

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bruh >; am sorry
is there something in particular you wanna talk to me about? or just suggesting I ask the same q's I asked HWS to you? I'd welcome your take on them too of course

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I actually like NSG's case for town, just not sure she's got her guy yet.

Wait what case exactly do you mean?

The jjh case?

pedit: Alty you an alt?

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JJ, explain what made you unvote?

This + her avatar being cute AF makes me think she is town.

lol
also, yes
her follow through on this was good as well

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reeks of lurkscum opportunism tbh

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real talk are you getting anything from it other than tonal pings?

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reeks of lurkscum opportunism tbh

I'm not sure I'm following - can you contextualize this?
I think it's a response to HitAlt but I'm not sure I understand the post in that context, so I'm left kinda head-scratch who / what you're referring to and I'd like to understand.

This was a shitpost sorry

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math is the setup spec king.
pintu is a slow burn kinda player.

have no strong feelings on either of them yet. I don't mind your take on their setup spec emphasis but they're both gonna be more sortable later in the phase

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lol. might know who you are

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yeah it was just a minor ping, btt it would be unfair for me to say
carry on

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your secret is safe Alt and so far it's certainly a hit.

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The Worst, do you have any reads right now?

wat

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The Worst, do you have any reads right now?

@HWS I'm vibing your reads. I actually like NSG's case for town, just not sure she's got her guy yet.

VOTE: Blackstar

Far be it for me to interject, but uhhh that seems a bit of a redundant question in light of 123?
Or are you asking if the_worst's prior reads have lapsed / changed since that post was made?

I meant any other reads

Nothing strong no. I tend to spew what thought I have itt

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What are your reads Blacky?

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dayvog: amlsott50

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Mini Normal 2005 was great fun, I was really proud of that game.

nsg carried hard tho

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ofrhz sure sounds a lot like ofrhz

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actually not sure why this wagon is happening, can someone give me a hand?

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Elli tell is posting elsewhere onsite probably

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oohhhhh ok, someone said it was the posting elsewhere on site thing. that seemed pissweak for Elli.

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sorry to disappoint. wanna talk about anything?

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VOTE: the worst

wat.
this is scum entering the wagon 100% of the time

VOTE: BlackStar

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rereading ISO that is scum entering the wagon 107% of the time.

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I wasn't totally sure who I was voting
Either way, dramatic effect makes it worth

Why did you ask that

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I'm going to have a cup of tea then try to talk to you, will you be here for a bit?

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I remembered why I'm lurking....actually not sure I have much I'm interested in talking about

for the sake of it talk to me about ofrhz ruru and hitalt?

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where are you at with zoronos, too?

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ofrhz/ruru interactions?

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HitAlt I think I want to talk to you at some point as well.

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VOTE: ofrhz

Aggressive

Ruru is probably town guys

This felt like buddying to me

Duh they're friends
keep going

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What did you think of ofrhz and ruru's interactions?

rereading ISO that is scum entering the wagon 107% of the time.

Also, why'd you say this?

HEY buddy I'm the duckling asking questions around here.
I'll answer when I'm satisfied you've answered me

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if I said there was something missing from your ISO which was pinging me what do you think it is

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Lol. It looks like scum buddying up to town. Something I do a lot as scum is try to buddy up to people who are very strongly scum reading me. This reminds me of that. Also I don't understand why being aggressive would make him town. It seems like a weird reason to town read someone

If you think THAT'S a weird reason you're gonna LOVE me townreading ofrhz for that post.

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Quid pro quo, bro

fo sho bro <3 all in good time

if I said there was something missing from your ISO which was pinging me what do you think it is

Detailed cases? Hard pushes? An over abundance of memes?

all essential to winning mafia NATURALLY
what is bugging me: where tf is your stance on ofrhz until I call you out on it?
you've been prodding and poking me all day when clearly paying no attention to my posting.
you're flip flopping at the speed of light on ofrhz and refused to vote her. like, I find it really hard to believe that your take on her/ruru is your actual read after this gem:

ruru is probably town. I’ve played two games with her, one scum and one town, and in her scumgame, she was passive (in her gameplay), like I don’t think scum!ruru would vote me in big text like she just did. Her posts were also stiff in tone in contrast to her RVS entrance. It’s occurred to me that she could have fabricated her game entrance (a few other people were in the same Newbie 1859 game where ruru was scum, so it’d be extremely beneficial for scum!ruru to do this) but I don’t think it’s likely given the ad hoc nature of the content

NSG is town mainly for asking people why they think she’s town and the early case focusing on JJH, which I don’t think are things that don’t come from scum NSG.

I have a weak townread on HWS because 121, specifically paragraph 2 where he analyzed JJH’s vote

I think I believe you...

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Orfcz+duck are scum btw.
More certain of the duck.

VOTE: the worse

you're presented with this opportunity
you pick me over ofrhz. I don't think this was just for the wagon. I genuinely think you have me pinned for a mislynch and jumped on board out of sheer opportunism.

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okkkkk.....and yet you've reached the conclusion this is scum!ofrhz trying to pocket town!ruru?

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o wait I might have mixed up your tense
are you saying

first impression: scum buddying
reconsideration: maybe townie
final conclusion: scum buddying

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that's still got me a bit but at least it's something to think about
I literally thought you changed your mind 3 times in rapid succession this page


I'll come back to you--is there anything you still wanna know from me?
I'm pretty sure I've answered your question in a roundabout way but lmk

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Why do you townread him for that?

Because they're not concerned in the slightest about being voted to the point of being flippant about it, and they are actually trying to turn it around into something positive.

It's an argument that probably wouldn't occur to most people as scum.

playing devil's advocate here, I actually arrived at a net townlean on ofrhz as well
but I kinda feel like it's totally instinctual for scum to reactively townread people who suspect them? like say ruru is town and ofrhz is scum technically ruru would be correct...?

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that's still got me a bit but at least it's something to think about
I literally thought you changed your mind 3 times in rapid succession this page


I'll come back to you--is there anything you still wanna know from me?
I'm pretty sure I've answered your question in a roundabout way but lmk

Is active lurking scummy in your opinion?

it's definitely scummy for certain people.
if you wanna talk universal tells, I think there's ~ways~ town active lurks and ~ways~ scum active lurks.

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that's still got me a bit but at least it's something to think about
I literally thought you changed your mind 3 times in rapid succession this page


I'll come back to you--is there anything you still wanna know from me?
I'm pretty sure I've answered your question in a roundabout way but lmk

Is active lurking scummy in your opinion?

it's definitely scummy for certain people.
if you wanna talk universal tells, I think there's ~ways~ town active lurks and ~ways~ scum active lurks.

Okay, so could you explain that more?

probably, any particular context or in armchair terms?

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do you have issues with my general activity or specific posts? if specific posts, please quote them and I'll explain.

I actually think I was fine with expressing my thoughts. :/

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you're gonna hate playing with me.

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nah we can be friends

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self meta makes me want to throw up, do you want to know why

I

make a point of active lurking/fluffposting as town?

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pretty much I'll weigh in through the day if I have a thought on something. I try to create content by actually engaging players. this phase hasn't really been overly interesting for me.

for the most part I pretty much throw in off lines and jokes to stay engaged with the player list
buddying fo sho but i'm usually extremely bored if I don't have people I want to talk to in a game

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I genuinely think you have me pinned for a mislynch and jumped on board out of sheer opportunism.

There would be easier targets in the game if I wanted mislynch.
But so it happens, I want to buss you D1.

this is not what we discussed in the PT!

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I genuinely think you have me pinned for a mislynch and jumped on board out of sheer opportunism.

There would be easier targets in the game if I wanted mislynch.
But so it happens, I want to buss you D1.

this is not what we discussed in the PT!

You didn't get the memo?
The boss isn't happy with your performance so far.

oh the boss.. damn, what was our code name for him again?

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Orfcz+duck are scum btw.
More certain of the duck.

VOTE: the worse

you had me like 20% interested here and then you stopped

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I'm wondering about BStar as well.
will probably mull it over overnight

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which post?
and you're not independently scumreading ofrhz?
kinda tryna gauge where your head's at, this post really stuck out for me.

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that like.
ofrhz' posting doesn't seem AI
why exactly are people scumreading them

sorry if I wasn't explicit enough? I thought it was pretty clear

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preferably not!!!

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swinngung town a little on of rhz

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First impression says bad. I need to talk through them with Hit.

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who got blackstar meta

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TIL he is the omgus king, I have been DETHRONED

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flipping coin
heads = play along and smile
tails = admit i have no idea

.... fuck it was tails

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sorry ruru, I'm not sure D:

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oh. yes. I am bored.

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the most natural conversation stirrer itt is the mod.
fuuuu

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pretty much read his early game as busywork and thought his vote on me was terrible

I'm kinda coming around to town!BStar tbh just not sure where to start next

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how confident are you in scum!ofrhz? I'm starting to feel like I might be being stupid.

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HitAlt is pretty null for me. he doesn't really ~feel~ scummy but I'm also having some issues parsing the trajectory and reasoning behind his reads.

GTH ofrhz seems similar to open 721 here. in reality I should go reread some.

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437 put my confusion with HitAlt a lot more legibly than I would've

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Zoronos I think your reads are probably more calibrated than mine at the moment.

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Ruru what's your read on Math right now?
also your ofrhz vote was likely on scum, why knee-jerk vote davesaz?

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Ruru what's your read on Math right now?
also your ofrhz vote was likely on scum, why knee-jerk vote davesaz?

If you think ofrhz is likely to be scum, why don't you mind that you're on the same wagon as him?

I was quoting ruru

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VOTE: ofrhz
good thinkin tho!

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I like where you're coming from, after extracting a bit more of your thought process.
tbh I think I'm being dumb with ofrhz. tonally she seems similar to our last game, but there's something awkward there.

also wagon motivation checks out

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ofrhz (3): Mathdino, northsidegal, BlackStar,
BlackStar (3): jjh927, the worst, ofrhz,
Mathdino (2): pinturicchio, davesaz,
the worst (1): HitAlt,
davesaz (1): ruru,



also like compare the options.
ruru's thinking @ dave is OK and I think she's town but eehh
I am too adorable to lynch
wagoning Math who is low-energy just seems pointless to me??
starting to like you

I'm not nearly interested enough rn to come up with something new

@jjh927/ofrhz

-- do you think BlackStar is likely scum rn?

pinturicchio

why are you on the dino?

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asdfghjkl;' that is so cute and so weird i'm melting

adorabloc {tw, ruru}

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maybe, that sounds like a lot of effort.
ohey our accounts were made within a day of each other's!

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friendliness?

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#staywoke

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maybe, that sounds like a lot of effort.
ohey our accounts were made within a day of each other's!

Would you mind doing this thing? I think it would be helpful.

you're lucky I like you.
I'm not seeing ofrhz' thought processes as much this game.
was actually pretty OK with the Ruru TR but in hindsight I reckon that's something ofrhz more than likely does as either alignment.
timing of her read on Blackstar doesn't feel as natural.

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just to be a hypocrite I probably would've liked her Blackstar vote ~ 2-3 pages before

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dat pagetop!

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I have about a 1% success rate with actually using meta. Just feelings.
Assume you're going to share at some point before EOD?

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Drinking and mafia is good! as long as you don't forget everything
ya I haven't asked yet


ofrhz what pronouns do you prefer?

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I’m a little worried that NSG isn’t as rapid about prosecutin her scum case as in 2005 but maybe that’s because she’s setting a clever trap idk she mentioned that the other day, but the raw emotional intensity is missing so I’m concerned. Or maybe she’s just not sure yet but I have concerns.

I'm trying not to hold NSG to that metric here. post-2005 discussions, that was very much her trying a different playstyle to her usual one.
still townreading her.

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tbh I think I'm being dumb with ofrhz. tonally she seems similar to our last game, but there's something awkward there.

also wagon motivation checks out

This feels like distancing and bussing at the same time

this feels like distancing and bussing at the same time

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how so tho pintu?

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them not finding a good wagon yet is one implication of scum!worst

scuse fucking you?

the fuck are you basing this on? I'm suddenly thinking you have no idea what I'm like as a player, and your BoP bullshit is raising more red flags than anything.

Who cares if anyone refers to it as stalling? We are not even close to deadline. Seriously question.

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Pinochhio

duck-prime

This is great

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GOD EMPEROR JJH IS THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA

ofrhz was the second duck

@mod

--might have very limited access for ~48 hours sorry. I'll mark V/LA on profile etc. in a moment.

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I mean very little readable content is concerning in itself but idfk

HitAlt I have a few issues with your meta read and general scum!ducky reasoning here. I am a complex and confusing human being and your meta read is very basic. If you want to talk about it hmu. Have you read 1+ of my scumgames and maybe know a few of my town games?

Irrespective I'm an awful D1 lynch so I'd strongly suggest finding someone else.

Also just a quick apology in general, I'm busy irl and have really inconsistent internet access (hence cautionary v/la status). My level of energy for mafia is super low and this game is lowish as far as my level of engagement goes

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What do you want exactly

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was being dumb with my initial read imo
I talked myself out of the stuff I was liking from ofrhz for being AI

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didn't really process that post. you took 354 out of context, refer to like 254 or thereabouts (where I talked about ofrhz originally, which is what I was elaborating on in 354 anyway)

Are people just going ctrl+f and searching for ofrhz in my iso? because I talked w blackstar about my read trajectory as well so that's gonna be confusing.

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Blacky--what if anything did you get out of us talking in real time?

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feels like I'm stuck explaining myself in circles.

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omfg I didn't even make that connection

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Sharing is Caring D1 VC #10

ofrhz (3): northsidegal, BlackStar, the worst,
jjh927 (2): Mathdino, ruru,
BlackStar (1): ofrhz,
Mathdino (1): pinturicchio,
the worst (1): HitAlt,
ruru (1): davesaz,
pinturicchio (1): jjh927,

Not Voting: HeWhoSwims, Something_Smart, Zoronos,

S_S V/LA till Tuesday

(expired on 2018-06-06 23:00:00)

A neutron goes into a bar and asks the bartender, "How much for a beer?"
The bartender replies, "For you, no charge."

This still confuses me

ofrhz why are you voteparked on Blackstar?
Pintu why are you voteparked on Math?

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Blacky--what if anything did you get out of us talking in real time?

Talking to you helped me to better articulate the reasons why ohfrz seems scummy. It also moved you from scum to null

we're on a similar page wrt ofrhz then

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Also... if you think my activity is indicative of anything other than me playing Settlers of Catan with my brother, you'd be wrong.

Catan > mafia.
ALWAYS.

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Concrete and Gold is lit.

My guess is RR playstyle shakes people up and cures boredom. What's on your mind Hit?

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If you're scum using this tunnel shit as a smoke screen I will akshully 1v1 u irl bro

Zoronos, I'm totally at a loss. I'll do some fun reading later. Who do you think is scum rn?

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OK but your argument was literslly
> TW prefers town to scum
> TW seems disengaged

am I wrong? have you read any of my games? I try to make a concerned effort to be difficult as scum and am more inclined to boredom as town. And now you're adding "tone" to that?

Dude have you actually caught scum in your career? One? Maybe two?

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Turn up your brightness and zoom in! The ducky is there.

pedit: I feel u bro, I'm not getting a scumread on anyone this game. Worst thing so far was Pintu's too-late push on me which was highly gross but the rest of his ISO is fine and I'm comfortable with putting it down to him misreading some shit since he is wonderful.

But like most of this game has been LARGE WALLS OF TEXT WITH SENSIBLE ARGUMENTS which frankly I cbf reading intent into

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I actually kinda hate Dave's voting but idrk what I'd do different

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Which connection exactly

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Ruru just like... is town imo? That vote was the one that pinged me harder than the Math vote.

Either way that's 2x vote's on people who would be stupid as shit to actually wagon. From memory Ruru defended Math when Dave voted him. his vote on Ruru might have been tinged with disdain from the math vote ig. I have not been paying stacks of attention to most of Dave's posts lemme have a read

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The Mathdino I know power towns.
Votes have multiple purposes.
Why categorize it as lazy? I see it as thought provoking.

Lazy would be ruru refusing to answer my question. In fact I can’t decide if voting me is more a diversion from my question or a chainsaw.

I probably dislike this more than the original vote if I'm honest.

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I have never played in a game with ruru.
The MD games that ruru has seen are not the same MD games that I have seen.
The sets are disjoint, there is no comparison between them.
And yes, I would be hugely surprised if MD played every scum game the same way. Multiple metas are a given, else he'd get lynched every time as scum. This is mafia 101...

Actually I like this a lot. Feels more like town pushing theories than scum pushing BS.

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Which connection exactly

The scum ducky --> scum Zoro one. Which I just mentioned

Fairo, blonde moment

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I'm pretty comfortable leaving Dave on null, I think he and Ruru need to talk more.

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Yeah, my memory had some stuff backwards. Dave seems fine for now but needs to talk w Ruru imo

Damnnnn dude your vocabulary is awesome

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I don't know how much I like S_S off the S_S/NSG interactions earlier.

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I mean, it's logically disconnected. Because his initial SR was based on MD having exactly one town meta but ???? number of scum metas.
Which is... exactly what I said prior about his voting. Like, in what world is someone going to go "Yeah, nobody will suspect this! "

okkkk yeah sorry. Your call on Dave is pretty much where I'm at now. finally back to normalish so need a bit of calibrating.

I'm content just like ignoring him until he's talked with Ruru more.

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ofrhz if you aren't scum who is?

I'll give you a hint: we're not lynching me today.

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like you clearly don't believe in where you've parked your vote. you're not communicating anything and just asked one of the townier players in the game to sleep you onto a really bad vote which she's been smart and voiced her intentions to leave until d2?

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Dude have you actually caught scum in your career? One? Maybe two?

If only you knew.
And while you are undoubtedly very good at this game, your AtE and potrayed aggression isn't top notch yet.

my new friend if you could here the ridicule in my voice....

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that's intriguing
talk to me about Bstar and Pintu?

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that wasn't an omgus reaction that was my knee jerk reaction

I haven't town told yet

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I will don't get sacked because of me.

Btw did you answer which pronouns you prefer? I think the pronouns I use to refer to you have changed and IDK if I'm getting stupider

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I'm around as well if anyone wants to play tic tac toe or smthn

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I'm around as well if anyone wants to play tic tac toe or smthn

Want to talk a bit about BlackStar? How do you feel regarding him at the moment?

I actually like him. I thought he was kinda floating by earlier in the phase but much more comfortable he's actually playing the game rn

Leaning town basically.


Where are u at with Bstar?

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I'm around as well if anyone wants to play tic tac toe or smthn

redacted btw I am garbage at tic tac toe

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I am more comfortable rn that you are playing the game
in a general sense
d1 is boring, I rarely hold inconsistent enthusiasm against ppl (let he who is guilty blah blah)

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What did you make of the S_S/NSG dialogue math?


pedit: his thought process checks out to me off the top of my head. I don't want to lynch him d1

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his thought process checks out to me off the top of my head.

Is this something you know him to be incapable of faking as scum?

Because in my experience scum usually have not had trouble making thought processes that make sense if you don't think about them that hard.

why the nitpick bro?

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I'm satisfied enough that his logic comes from town that I don't want to lynch him day 1. I am not locktownreading him as that would be stupid as shit. I'm happy not pushing for his lynch, and letting him do his thing, and I'm p satisfied if he is easily capable of faking this as scum it'll be easier for me to sort him decisively after some flips anyway.

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find one scum first tbh

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the wagon on me isn't important, they'll settle down before EOD

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incorrect and we need to focus elsewhere

also

╭∩╮（︶︿︶）╭∩╮

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Have you read my posts? srs quessun

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OK if you've read my recent posts I'm not sure why you'd bother asking me that question. If anyone probably you rn tbh

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You can do better than voting town

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I'm voting my strongest scumread ATM and have been putting about as much energy into this game as I can muster d1. I feel like I've been pretty open about how turned off this game I am and frankly who the fuck are you to BoP or criticise my playstyle?

VOTE: jjh927 flips red

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Is that an ATE OMGUS combo

#scumposting

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okay HitAlt is just full of shit too. I might be slightly biased by knowing for a fact I'm not scum with Zoronos but your casing is absolutely awful and you're stuck in the most disgusting tunnel. This isn't actually towny pushing.

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This game is getting gross. I feel like some people here are easy to work with but {jjh, Hit} are just tunnelling me to the point of being completely awful at mafia. There's 1-2 scum here, and I can actually see them as scum together.

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That's a pintuREACHio read

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so let's just get this fuckin straight guys

pull up TW ISO and ctrl+f by "ofr"

so what we got is a soft defence of ofrhz throughout the entire first half of the day
- WHY ARE PEOPLE SCUMREADING OFRHZ HMMMM? (345)
- IDK OFRHZ KINDA SEEMS LIKE TOWN (317)
- STOP FLIP FLOPPING ON OFRHZ (306)

and then suddenly he's like "whelp NSG, blackstar and dino are on the wagon, maybe i'm stupid, WAGON HO!"
ignoring the fact that i was obviously just sheeping someone and didn't have a read on ofrhz myself

amusing sidenote, i missed 664 literally asking if people are ctrl+f'ing "ofrhz" in his ISO

regardless, it's opportunistic as fuck, ofrhz is known to be an easy D1 lynch

low key had a feeling you'd sr me this game
so........ 664.......did you read the interactions around me talking about ofrhz? There's 200% scummier fucks here but I really can't bring myself to hard townread her after taking a decent critical look at my first impression read.

Why are you confident she's town?

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sheeping NSG?
I'd be a lot more open about sheeping NSG if I was sheeping NSG bro.

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A50 is so funny and amazing.... I want to be like him in 25 years~

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I'm starting to doubt that ofrhz is scum, but I don't have strong suspicion towards anyone else. The thread has been filled with I depth analysis over the past couple of days but it's overwhelming me a little bit to go through it all. I'm not really good at this type of speculation and it easier to get engaged after the first lynch

this but jjh is scum

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newbie 1865

brbrb

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newbie 1865

brbrb

if this is a good example of her scum game I am highly upside down in how I interpret ofrhz

definitely colder on her now but I've been getting colder anyway

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newbie 1865

brbrb

if this is a good example of her scum game I am highly upside down in how I interpret ofrhz

definitely colder on her now but I've been getting colder anyway

I feel like 1867 is better

?

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was ofrhz in 1867?

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was ofrhz in 1867?

yeah, for most of D1 before replacing out

newbie 1865

brbrb

if this is a good example of her scum game I am highly upside down in how I interpret ofrhz

definitely colder on her now but I've been getting colder anyway

WHO'S DIZZY DUCKLING NOW

I lol'd at this

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what's on your mind?

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what's on your mind?

-shrug-

wondering how confident i can really be in my reads

what i have right now

feels

right, i guess just now i'm waiting for either confirmation or the harsh sting of rejection

for the most part I'm on the same page w your reads unless we have like hella deepwolfing going on.... and something about the game feels satisfying / doesn't feel like hella deepwolfing

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1) transparently town

2) I'm flip flopping like a pro on HWS. his name reminds me of Hot Water Service which is very distractinggggggg

I liked his earlier posts a lot but in hindsight I think that was primarily a tonal read, it doesn't feel like he's offered a lot of genuine imitative and insight. So probs a nullish town feeling.

But also too many townreads and I haven't really considered where this puts him from a PoE POV

Also jjh is a scumfuck and I haven't really thought abt if they're partners

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for the most part I'm on the same page w your reads unless we have like hella deepwolfing going on.... and something about the game feels satisfying / doesn't feel like hella deepwolfing

How does this relate to the game being "gross"

the game state is gross in that I hate trying to process text walls and don't feel like I'm being very engaging and fun to play with

the more exciting part is that we've actually got some spicy wagons. jjh basically scumclaimed in his interactions with me. wrt lack of deepwolfing that's just gut, I don't feel like town is being steered off a cliff if you know what I mean?

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Least genuine push so far has been jjh maybe followed by HitAlt? but also I don't feel like HitAlt's push was malicious, it had a lot of convinction it was just really bad.

are there cases being pushed hard which you find particularly disingenuous? we can talk about those if you want?


pedit: uuuhhhhhh I haven't put much effort in but town lean, Hbu?

pedit2: d'aww

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So like, that post to nsg felt a bit unnatural compared to how you acted toward HA's case (which I felt was towny and possibly accurate)

this part I don't really understand what you're seeing :/ shoot quotes at me

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I'm disappointed you're actually townreading me as uncharacteristically hard as I thought you were

this sentence has so many feels in it

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tell u l8r

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that question makes me think a reason I'm townreading you might be incorrect which you might be able to signal for me discreetly

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I legit have no idea why you're townreading me

If it's wrong then I'll literally just say "no that's within my scumrange lol"

Are you seriously pr hunting me

I think you know that's not within my interests as either alignment bro

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So is HA town or?

I think so (sorry hard to respond to text walls at work, breaking this up)

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Not really, it's day 1

Unless scum really screw up, we all make up reasons to suspect each other and then lynch the least charismatic player

I feel like scum haven't really screwed up yet in a way that's noticeable to me, so I'm just sorta bored/frustrated with it being d1

I don't exactly relate to a "game solved" mentality I guess

I'm actually going to get you a cake for this string of sentences. Also I don't see anything else I can actually comment on rn but hmu if you need anything.

I think we're on the same page with MD

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one thing that's irritating me

Math you how I treat you 75% of the time and also know that I am a deeply inept meta reader so I'm not sure why you're expecting me to cough up a specific towndino tell? unless I'm totally misreading your question?

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haha I forgot who was modding this
a50 is the gr8est

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Nah lynch elsewhere today, I am not a good lynch.

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it prolly shld

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There's different ways to question a consensus I guess. either #staywokely or like, actively chaotically.
which consensus is on your mind Zoro?

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o yeah nah HWS read on Ruru was tragic

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When I find myself in times of trouble
Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom
"Lynch jjh go d2"

amen sista

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yeah nah HitAlt lacks an ounce of nuance. this is clearly a fake tunnel.
but jjh's read was also so fake
and they're defending jjh

This can wait for d2

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How so>?

the associative read with ofrhz really really pinged me. I feel like its easy enough to get a read on Ruru on her own merits--ignoring other slots where are you at with her?

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no overnight flashwagons pls I need to sleep

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also don't think I'm interested enough in this game to properly implode currently

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It feels like we're just wasting time until the deadline. Speculation is cool and all, but its easier to make solid connections and cases after we lynch someone. So lets just do that already

i agree with this. it feels like we're waiting on something that just isn't coming.

i'd like to hear some specific thoughts on what the people off of the jjh wagon are doing / think of that wagon.

It feels like some people just voted for him because they saw the momentum and not because they actually felt he was scum

who?

The Worst and pintchurrio

he voteparked me for ages then spewed out some nonsensical garbo about his reasons for it

think I've explained in more detail already

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I guess I could properly case the worst if that would help

oh fuck this would make my day

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HitAlt's tunnel on the duckling reminds me of a fake tunnel that vulcan logician had on me on our last game, and by fake I mean "scum hard tunneling someone since early D1 until the end". We either lynch the worst or HitAlt before LyLo, 'cause in that game I lived until MyLo and the other scum option was vulcan and it was not nice to be in that situation, @duckling you know what I mean

ugh thank you someone else feels this

Yeah the tunnel is getting bad. He's like refusing to play the game and continuously circling back to me when he clearly has no case.

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always go to narnia
ALWAYS.
<3

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Is that a term here?
I don't know the corresponding jargon you guys use for 'creating a new train and suddenly lynching someone who was not previously among leading lynch candidates'. The forum I used to play on referred to that phenomenon as 'going to narnia'.

Ohhh I guess a flashwagon if it's really last minute
If it's HitAlt I'm town. I'm reasonably confident he's scum with jjh rn and I want one of them

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HitAlt I'm town

I'm down*

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Nah I'm not today's lynch
next option?

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Zero and ofrhz please have another read of my ISO.

jjh and HitAlt are scum.
I am not getting lynched today. Literally in any scenario.

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I'm not abt that casing life bruh I've already said why I have two scum pinned

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I have not totally read past the jjh claim but this day phase is fucking hilarious

Also is this just something he does as scum

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cool ez

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lynch A50?

I still want jjh or hit

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Honestly yeah. If he is actually JK I'm fucking lolling at how bad this day is.

Hit is probably scum. He's pushing me for terrible reasons even though it's obvious I'm not getting lynched........his response to this is tunnelling me and largely ignoring the rest of the gamestate. This is scum pushing.

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Why is scum more likely to carry out a largely ineffective and attention-drawing push than town is?

are you reading my posts tho?
this kinda tactic is meant to draw questions like this. the whole things a smokescreen.

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yeah no we're not lynching me
e v e r

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Mmm

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quack quack quack