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Post Post #11 (isolation #0) » Wed May 23, 2018 10:22 am

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VOTE: the worst

MORTAL DUCKLING I HAVE TRANSCENDED YOUR FORM
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Post Post #14 (isolation #1) » Wed May 23, 2018 11:02 am

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Would I ever do a joke vote?
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Post Post #16 (isolation #2) » Wed May 23, 2018 11:07 am

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It's a joke vote
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Post Post #17 (isolation #3) » Wed May 23, 2018 11:07 am

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VOTE: Zoronos

This is serious though
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Post Post #21 (isolation #4) » Wed May 23, 2018 11:11 am

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I wanna know why he wanted to know whether or not my vote was serious
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Post Post #24 (isolation #5) » Wed May 23, 2018 11:16 am

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Ooh no I was taking that as NAI

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #25 (isolation #6) » Wed May 23, 2018 11:18 am

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Ftr I am not a big fan of people asking about whether or not a vote is serious in RVS. I think the faster we break away from RVS, the better, and to do that generally involves making a mountain out of a molehill and then stripmining that mountain for its precious content
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Post Post #27 (isolation #7) » Wed May 23, 2018 11:21 am

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In post 22, Zoronos wrote:To contextualize my question - the_worst claimed scum in 9. I feel that moves the indicator (ever so slightly) on his probability of being scum. Ergo, I was curious if JJH was serious voting based on that input, or just making an RVS-vote, since his vote came after that post.
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Post Post #31 (isolation #8) » Wed May 23, 2018 11:38 am

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Zoronos had town motivation behind asking about the seriousness of my vote and clearly did not intend to reduce the pressure of it.

As an extra, even that vote wasn't actually much of a serious vote, I just said it was
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Post Post #32 (isolation #9) » Wed May 23, 2018 11:39 am

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Zor, we have a really strong playerlist, many of which know each other from places. I feel the interesting bits come immediately after RVS and beyond
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Post Post #33 (isolation #10) » Wed May 23, 2018 11:40 am

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We're maybe not quite there yet.

Worth noting that NSG is more interested in me than her wagon?
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Post Post #41 (isolation #11) » Wed May 23, 2018 11:57 am

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No idea what I'm making of it yet


VOTE: Pintu

Mr Blue Sky!
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Post Post #59 (isolation #12) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:21 pm

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VOTE: BlackStar
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Post Post #64 (isolation #13) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:28 pm

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That's how you get to happen. He's been an extremely positive presence in getting out of RVS
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Post Post #66 (isolation #14) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:32 pm

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Looks more legit to me than what you're saying
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Post Post #163 (isolation #15) » Thu May 24, 2018 2:14 am

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Oi NSG, we can talk in real time or I can just tell you why you're wrong
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Post Post #189 (isolation #16) » Thu May 24, 2018 10:56 am

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Chatting is my preferred option here.


We've never played a game together before? Except for that marathon, which doesn't count. Right now, I'm not sure whether or not you're scum, but we'll get to that-

If you don't get why I voted Zor, you don't understand the whole making a mountain out of a molehill thing. My general RVS philosophy involves making votes and trying to make them convey more pressure than they reasonably should, as this helps to generate content. This was the purpose of the Zor vote. This is why I said it was serious when it really wasn't that serious.

I'm not sure if you were scouting me out as potential lhf or if that's even your kind of jam as scum. I kinda like the look of the motivation behind your case but there's the distinct possibility of it instead being the result of this, which was what I was kinda conscious of. You were also a pretty big rvs wagon and would be looking for somewhere for people to shift votes to when things became serious. There are at least a couple of people in the game who probably understand that I'm not actually easy ot mislynch at all, but I sometimes get wagoned early on by people who haven't played with me before. It's difficult for me to see town or scum motivation in that, especially with how long it's been since I actually played an RVS.

Pintu into blackstar is a similar coming out of RVS thing with trying to place people with the aid of pressure to induce content. That said, neither really directly went anywhere.


If you are primarily scumreading me because my RVS is janky then meta me
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Post Post #194 (isolation #17) » Thu May 24, 2018 11:14 am

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I voted pintu because I wasn't voting anyone and it couldn't do any harm

I don't really scumread blackstar, so to speak. Maybe a lean? I voted because he was scumreading Zor, and the reasoning on that (specifically having two reasons, one being a crappy RVS reason and the other being a crappy attempted reason) is bad. And I'm still voting there because nothing better has shown up.

LHF is low hanging fruit. Basically, I think it's possible you were trying to figure out if you could mislynch me or not as opposed to trying to place me, and bringing that up before seeing where you went with your fixation on me wasn't gonna help there.
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Post Post #366 (isolation #18) » Fri May 25, 2018 1:23 pm

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Falling behind a bit due to mafia-related circumstances. Should be more active in about 24 hours.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #19) » Fri May 25, 2018 3:00 pm

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Oh sorry, yeah I did vote blackstar just for voting Zor. That was the face reason
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Post Post #417 (isolation #20) » Fri May 25, 2018 5:48 pm

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It's probably a combination of me not being able to be particularly active and you viewing my past day 1s through the lens of hindsight

Also I've hardly said jack shit in terms of reads
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Post Post #468 (isolation #21) » Sat May 26, 2018 4:29 pm

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Blackstar was most likely scum where I was at when I voted and a bit after. Now, IDK, and I should reread the stuff I've skimmed
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Post Post #531 (isolation #22) » Sun May 27, 2018 8:28 am

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Yeah I know why you're doing that we can't really 1V1
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Post Post #533 (isolation #23) » Sun May 27, 2018 8:31 am

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Nah, we'll see where things go. Ofrhz is town though so I'm not doing that and will chastise those on the wagon
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Post Post #535 (isolation #24) » Sun May 27, 2018 8:34 am

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I would normally 1V1 someone like math here
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Post Post #536 (isolation #25) » Sun May 27, 2018 8:35 am

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But then normally people are scumreading me for playing like I always do whereas in this case I'm super inactive
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Post Post #539 (isolation #26) » Sun May 27, 2018 8:39 am

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Might be worth comparing to that large normal I lurked in if you want to meta, maybe cross compare with the paint mafia large which was a lurkscum game
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Post Post #543 (isolation #27) » Sun May 27, 2018 8:40 am

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Now here's someone who I could use reasoning from
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Post Post #547 (isolation #28) » Sun May 27, 2018 8:45 am

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Why is ruru a "core townread"
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Post Post #550 (isolation #29) » Sun May 27, 2018 8:53 am

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Whose metaread is it
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Post Post #573 (isolation #30) » Sun May 27, 2018 9:20 am

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VOTE: Pintu
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Post Post #601 (isolation #31) » Sun May 27, 2018 10:38 am

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I should always be the final duck tbh because I am the end
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Post Post #603 (isolation #32) » Sun May 27, 2018 11:36 am

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Iso them. They're doing a lot of engaging with other people, and I think it comes from a town mindset here. It's not mudslinging or stirring shit, just good questions

Also wagon was bad
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Post Post #607 (isolation #33) » Sun May 27, 2018 12:56 pm

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In post 604, ruru wrote:
In post 603, jjh927 wrote:Also wagon was bad
Howso
Blackstar is dodgy in general. TW on that wagon specifically is bad and I don't like his progression.

In post 606, BlackStar wrote:
In post 603, jjh927 wrote:Iso them. They're doing a lot of engaging with other people, and I think it comes from a town mindset here. It's not mudslinging or stirring shit, just good questions

Also wagon was bad
Quote some of these good questions
Spoiler:
In post 253, ofrhz wrote:
In post 181, BlackStar wrote:Hitalt, pint and something smart seem town to me. I'm not sure about anyone else yet
Could you go into these a little bit more
In post 504, ofrhz wrote:
In post 378, northsidegal wrote:First order of business:

Blackstar voters, justify yourself.
His classification of things as genuine or not genuine feels arbitrary and made up

finding a reason to scumread me in how I caught up in a large burst of activity but not considering the more likely alternative which is that I had a large chunk of time to sit down and play the game but have been busy otherwise

But probably by far the largest reason is that I have a hard time believing that someone read my scum game in Newbie 1865 like he claimed (my only finished scumgame on-site) and came to the conclusion that I could be scum this game. I kinda think the differences in my gameplay have already been night and day
I'm feeling pretty good about blackstar being town here. <snip>

and, reading the thread myself, i can
see
where his thought is coming from.
Could you explain which of his thoughts make sense to you? I’m guessing you’re not talking about his initial gut read of Zoronos since you had Zoronos as a townlean early
In post 509, ofrhz wrote:
In post 344, HitAlt wrote:
In post 254, the worst wrote:ofrhz sure sounds a lot like ofrhz
And
In post 255, the worst wrote:actually not sure why this wagon is happening, can someone give me a hand?
Seems either like a scum with TMI-knowing it's a mislynch, or scum softly trying to steer the wagon.
Scummy posts anyway.
In post 424, HitAlt wrote:I have no reason to reverse my scumread on the duck.
I'd argue we can see scum!Zoro more easily after duck really flips scum.
Pintu legit feels like town.
One scum in ruru/orcfz is probable.
Blackstra is likely town, and the ones who have poked/voted there so far likely have scum in them, looking for a potential mislynch.
This caught my eye b/c you've locked onto the worst here, and I don't quite follow

Pintu in also said I am playing a similar game to one of my town games, which is kinda similar to tw's . Could you explain how pintu has towntold?

HWS recently questioned why I'm being wagoned. What do you think of that?
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Post Post #609 (isolation #34) » Sun May 27, 2018 1:01 pm

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the worst
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Post Post #611 (isolation #35) » Sun May 27, 2018 1:14 pm

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Hasn't really changed since I last voted you tbh

Maybe we just have different thought processes or maybe yours is artificial
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Post Post #647 (isolation #36) » Mon May 28, 2018 11:02 am

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VOTE: The Worst

I can get on this
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Post Post #657 (isolation #37) » Mon May 28, 2018 2:02 pm

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Expand on your progression on ofrhz
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Post Post #659 (isolation #38) » Mon May 28, 2018 2:25 pm

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I'm not sure how you went from disagreeing with people scumreading ofhrz, to being unsure, to agreeing with them, when the reasoning never actually changed
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Post Post #736 (isolation #39) » Tue May 29, 2018 5:37 am

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Come at me

What the hell do you know about my meta
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Post Post #771 (isolation #40) » Tue May 29, 2018 10:43 am

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In post 737, ruru wrote:I don't think the dinosaur would lie about this
In post 199, Mathdino wrote:Would NSG be aware that jjh has a reputation for being super obvtown as town?
and you're not obvtown to me
Yeah that's a shit reason.

Mathdino hasn't actually played with me iirc, he's just seen me play at least twice. I'm pretty easy to read if you know how I play but I am of the opinion I don't obvtown conventionally. Like, math would probably agree I obvtowned in team mafia, but I still got wagoned significantly day 1.

So basically, Math is wrong. If I have a reputation for being obvtown it's within the group of people who have frequently played with me.


You got anything else?
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Post Post #824 (isolation #41) » Tue May 29, 2018 5:51 pm

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In post 781, Zoronos wrote:@JJH -
I'd like to pester you for some thoughts on two players.

What do you think of MathDino? Ignoring his meta take on you, I'm not concerned with that (I realize it's a burden-of-proficiency-by-proxy take and at what level do you usefully argue with that). More like, do you think he's scummy / not scummy.

What do you think of Daveasz? Scummy or towny?
On Math:
We don't have to ignore the meta take right off the bat. It's lazy. It's not the only time in this game he's taken an approach to this game that is lazy. I would like him to not be lazy, but it doesn't mean he's scum. That said, while I haven't played with him before, I can see he's been doing the whole townread PoE thing- even if I don't think his reads are necessarily accurate here. Probably town, and should be easier to place as the game goes on.


On Davesaz:
Either result is possible.

But no seriously he's probably town because he's got this air of semi-competent cluelessness going and IDK if he can replicate that as scum because I haven't seen him play scum but my natural assumption is that it's very difficult to fake this kind of authentic tendency to bark up the wrong tree. I'd anticipate that he might actually make sense as scum? Not 100% sure but unless someone with more of a grasp on his meta tells me otherwise, I will be assuming he is town.


Good people to ask about btw
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Post Post #849 (isolation #42) » Tue May 29, 2018 11:00 pm

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Fwiw I am not considering myself active here
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Post Post #850 (isolation #43) » Tue May 29, 2018 11:06 pm

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Preflips are bad, Math voting me is questionable, I don't know what IIoA means and the worst is still a really good lynch rn
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Post Post #852 (isolation #44) » Tue May 29, 2018 11:15 pm

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You're still on ofhrz, which is still bad and one of the main reasons I scumread you

Who else do you think is scum
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Post Post #856 (isolation #45) » Wed May 30, 2018 2:30 am

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In post 853, the worst wrote:Have you read my posts? srs quessun
Yeah, but there's a lot of shit and I don't remember you saying who you scumread recently and an iso glance suggests that I'm right.

Who do you scumread that's not ofhrz
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Post Post #858 (isolation #46) » Wed May 30, 2018 2:50 am

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In post 717, the worst wrote:Turn up your brightness and zoom in! The ducky is there.

pedit: I feel u bro, I'm not getting a scumread on anyone this game. Worst thing so far was Pintu's too-late push on me which was highly gross but the rest of his ISO is fine and I'm comfortable with putting it down to him misreading some shit since he is wonderful.

But like most of this game has been LARGE WALLS OF TEXT WITH SENSIBLE ARGUMENTS which frankly I cbf reading intent into
That's the most recent relevant one
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Post Post #859 (isolation #47) » Wed May 30, 2018 2:51 am

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and it's shit and you can do better and you can also do better than your last one
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Post Post #861 (isolation #48) » Wed May 30, 2018 2:54 am

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I don't think town avoids finding scum like you've been doing
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Post Post #863 (isolation #49) » Wed May 30, 2018 3:00 am

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Is that an ATE OMGUS combo
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Post Post #864 (isolation #50) » Wed May 30, 2018 3:01 am

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Hello, everyone, and welcome to the open queue's first annual duck off
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Post Post #1093 (isolation #51) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:27 pm

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I got prodded and you guys are being dumb

I had a particularly difficult exam yesterday
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #52) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:29 pm

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I could full on case the worst here but I'm done writing essays, at least for a bit. Maybe tomorrow
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Post Post #1095 (isolation #53) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:30 pm

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NSG is being surprisingly incompetent from my pov, the worst is scum, mathdino should know better, IDK shit about ruru



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Post Post #1097 (isolation #54) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:20 pm

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I'm saying that your two real votes are wrong and you've been tunneling those reads
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Post Post #1101 (isolation #55) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:22 pm

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Okay incompetent was probably harsh
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Post Post #1102 (isolation #56) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:23 pm

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That said, the worst is obvscum here and I'm flabbergasted that people are voting me here
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Post Post #1104 (isolation #57) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:54 pm

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Why are you focused on teams on day 1
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Post Post #1112 (isolation #58) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:09 pm

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In post 1110, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 1095, jjh927 wrote:NSG is being surprisingly incompetent from my pov, the worst is scum, mathdino should know better, IDK shit about ruru



Pintu- what's different about me here than in noir
Why are you asking me and not Mathdino, competent player who was the mod of that game and is scumreading you too?

My answer is "I didn't read you in Noir 'cause I was focused on mutant's lynch and you had to claim tracker so it was never necessary", but if you want me to reach, you seemed more relaxed there than here even when people was voting your predecessor. Here you seem frustrated any time someone votes you or scumread you.

Also to be completely honest your avatar is freaking me out and I would be glad if I don't have to see it anymore in this game
Because you're the most likely scum on my wagon that isn't the worst.

That's a bullshit answer. May I redirect you to the day I replaced in?
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Post Post #1114 (isolation #59) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:54 pm

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In this particular case, bullshit is where I am accusing you of being completely and verifiably inccorrect rather thanjust giving a bad answer.
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #60) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:55 pm

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You absolutely did make an effort to place me when I replaced in in noir. You are now attempting to write it off
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Post Post #1124 (isolation #61) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:55 am

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In post 1120, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 1114, jjh927 wrote:In this particular case, bullshit is where I am accusing you of being completely and verifiably inccorrect rather thanjust giving a bad answer.
In post 1115, jjh927 wrote:You absolutely did make an effort to place me when I replaced in in noir. You are now attempting to write it off
No, jjh, i didn't make an effort to sort you in that game. I asked you which song would you like, you asked me if I was already townreading you and I said no, that I asked for it if I ever thought you were townie enough to be in my townbloc, but that you were in good track. That's all I said about you before you counterclaimed tracker. So not only your answer to me was innecesarily agressive, you also made me lose my time and go read another game to realize you were the one lying. Don't make me lose my time again with unjustified bullshit

Making no effort to place me but saying I'm on good track are two mutually exclusive things. That IS an effort to place me. You never objectively made a call because I was being towny while my predecessor was considered scummy. That's all.
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Post Post #1125 (isolation #62) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:56 am

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In post 1118, HeWhoSwims wrote:If I gotta choose between jjh and the worst I think I'd prefer to lynch jjh but I'll overthink it and see if I have time to read his scumgame I modded.
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #63) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:35 pm

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Oh you were talking about the worst rather than outing yourself as an alt of 1 of 2 people
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Post Post #1172 (isolation #64) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:24 am

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I guess I could properly case the worst if that would help
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Post Post #1232 (isolation #65) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:49 pm

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Me softing PR is news to me because that sounds like something I wouldn't do
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Post Post #1238 (isolation #66) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:58 pm

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I'm the jailkeeper and this would have been a lot less messy if you'd have helped wagon the worst imo
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Post Post #1239 (isolation #67) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:58 pm

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Now shift
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Post Post #1245 (isolation #68) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:01 pm

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I like all the not ccing but I'd rather be out of lolhammer range rn?
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Post Post #1248 (isolation #69) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:03 pm

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Oh that's fair, scum just kill me and I should probably explicitly not use an action so that people know what X is
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Post Post #1377 (isolation #70) » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:50 am

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Well if you want to trade 1 for 1 when you'd just kill me anyway that's fine by me

I don't see a way I'm not getting lynched here though
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Post Post #1381 (isolation #71) » Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:00 am

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I don't really crumb, just embed words into series of posts and I didn't have time to do that or think it would be useful
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Post Post #1386 (isolation #72) » Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:20 am

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Post Post #1387 (isolation #73) » Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:21 am

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I'd do some open wolfing but I gotta go roleplay
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Post Post #1389 (isolation #74) » Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:22 am

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VOTE: jjh927

Pretty sure Math already hammered but I need towncred so I'm gonna bus myself
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Post Post #1393 (isolation #75) » Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:26 am

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My bike's brakes are broken.
They get worse every time I use them.
And I don't have enough time
to be everywhere
without being on my bike.

So maybe I should slow down,
And try to do
less things.
But my bike's brakes are broken.
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Post Post #1395 (isolation #76) » Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:26 am

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BBL cycling to roleplaying
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