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The only solution is to vote me.In post 32, Scioness Sajj wrote:
uh ohIn post 28, Reality Check wrote:Oh
Trusting me is usually a bad idea
I should've mentioned that first.
have not expected you to betray my trust like that, what now?
wait...- Reality Check
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Does it just look scummy or is it actually scummy?
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In post 53, mastina wrote:Out of hydra Ego post.
I'm gonna tell a joke. (Which'll continue on said hydra.)
Knock, knock.- Reality Check
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Eventually, you.In post 54, the worst wrote:Who's there
...Okay, that's probably not the funniest of jokes. Let me try again.
Knock, knock.- Reality Check
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I'd say the whole neighborhood.In post 69, joral wrote:Who's there?
...No?
Okay, one final go then.
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...Where?In post 100, the worst wrote:
who's there?In post 97, Reality Check wrote:
I'd say the whole neighborhood.In post 69, joral wrote:Who's there?
...No?
Okay, one final go then.
Knock, knock.
I've been keeping my eye out for him, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't play mafia anymore......- Reality Check
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Town.In post 13, TPFKAP wrote:I wish the goblins would come and take you away right now.
Town?
Scum?
Scum.
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Town.In post 55, NicoRobin wrote:yo
Town?In post 61, TehBrawlGuy wrote:It's a page 2 vote on two sentences of material, it's not exactly like I did detailed analysis. Looking back at it, it feels like it's trying to seem extra casual about the RVS votes. The OMGUS on Wheme looks worse, so #24's less relevant anyway.
For the record overall would have to have her as 'Town?', but would prefer more to place her there especially since I'm coming up one scum short.In post 109, Reality Check wrote:I'll let mastina judge AA9's softclaim, she's far better at that sort of thing than I am.
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Prolly not, no. Signing off of the account actually.In post 118, the worst wrote:still there?- Reality Check
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Can you unpack this for me? This is a very interesting statement considering only one head has analyzed anything so far. I only have a couple reads right now.In post 183, the worst wrote:
faintly nullish badtown rn across the both headsIn post 181, Shoshin wrote:the worst, what's your read on Reality? any reason I'm wrong about them?- Reality Check
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That's definitely null for this head and likely null for the other head too.In post 191, the worst wrote:TBC honestly. there isn't enough content to have a firm read either way.
but first impressions, they're obviously not swaying to anyone else's thinking which is faintly town-scented.- Reality Check
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Ank-head killed you in Corpse party, but otherwise we've never played before.
Mastina-head, I'm not sure, but I'm guessing your experience with her is pretty low if you have that response to her RVS reads
In post 143, Shoshin wrote:My vote on Reality wasn't "random." 67 is scummy, and Reality ignored my question about it.
I missed it, actually.In post 67, Reality Check wrote:I don't really think Joral is scum tbh
(both these posts are Ank btw)
Tone is more indicative of confidence than anything else for me; #67 is me saying that I'm not convinced that Joral is scum based on the posts he's made so far, but he's far enough into my playstyle blindspot as well as not looking particularly town, so that initial opinion is subject to change once more information comes by.
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In post 145, Shoshin wrote:I bolded some of the language that pinged me. At this point, it made no sense from a town perspective to hesitantly defend Joral - literally none - and language like "really" and "tbh" suggests that Reality don't believe what they're saying themselves. And when questioned about it, Reality completely ignored me... So I'm happy with where my vote is.
This should be a bit less confusingIn post 200, Reality Check wrote:Tone is more indicative of confidence than anything else for me; #67 is me saying that I'm not convinced that Joral is scum based on the posts he's made so far, but he's far enough into my playstyle blindspot as well as not looking particularly town, so that initial opinion is subject to change once more information comes by.- Reality Check
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Both of us have independent townreads on Wheme, but I think mastina's is stronger than mine is.In post 203, Shoshin wrote:Still reading Wheme as strong town, Reality?- Reality Check
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Good morning everyone!
Anyone interested in talking reads? I have fewer strong reads than I'd like after catching up.- Reality Check
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Alright, I've had enough fun with that.
Mastina was the one that posted reads, I've had about 2-3 before then (including the Joral read mentioned earlier).- Reality Check
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hm...
Most of those are different from my own reads, sadly. The only scumread we agree on is Scioness Sajj, despite the fact that I have five other scumreads.
I'm in the middle of hashing out the differences in mastina's and my reads though, so this could change.- Reality Check
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I agree on Joral and TGK. Disagree on the worst and Wheme.In post 287, Vartsun wrote:In post 286, Reality Check wrote:Hey Taly, where you at? I want to know where your head is roughly.> tgkfaplooks like an even tastier wagon.(Weak scumread, but strongest so far)
>Worried thatCreaturehas not displayed what I know of his town-meta.
> Whemeis antitown, or at least appears that way in light of pushing things without stating too much of why.(???)
>Didn't and still don't likeJoral'swagon and I think he's the most forthcoming person in the game; well-reasoned thoughts, does not hold back on his thinking, and with this combined that I'm voting someone that has their vote on him - unless I missed something - I'm really happy with saying this is town.(Strong Town)
> Renaiis openly useless.(Null, leanscum)
>Who arerikuandshoshinagain?
>Going to take a bit before I settle onthe worst, but I get townvibes there because of their train-of-consciousness posts that have interest in progressing the game in favor of gamesolving.(Town)
These are the biggest things coming to mind at the moment for thoughts.
You feel genuine.
~ Taly
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haha joke's on youIn post 296, ArcAngel9 wrote:
Mastina, Please tell me you're town here!!!In post 285, Reality Check wrote:Ok jokes aside, I'd like to see what the lol was about too.
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Taly, effort is not alignment indicative.In post 356, Vartsun wrote:I'm going to pretend the last half page of posts don't exist so I won't deeply question and criticize the mafia ability of some players in this game.
tgkfapis borderline scumclaiming with how poor their posts have been, and LITERALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS ISVARSOONWHEN I'VE DONE ALL THE POSTING.
Also how the fuck would I be defendingShoshin? Love the dichotomies you're making though, if for god knows what reason that you're town - scum must love that you don't have a moving wagon on you. I'm much more forward and direct with my stances, boo.
Really doubting that this isCreature'stowngame. His only gamesolving-centered post so far has been 334 and it literally comes to no conclusion at all.
Shoshin, why isSajjscum to you, again? And if you thinkthe worstis scum off of townreadingSajj, then why are you dropping your attention off of her in pursuit of him? 350
I already said I thoughtSajjwas lean-town 312 - is that scum-indicative to you?
Oh look,Renaisfinally made commentary. 338, why isCreature and tgkfaptown to you?
Pushingthe worstis the worst thing you could possibly do right now because he's near locktown solely due to his sensibility being higher than most of the playerlist's right now.
And no, I didn't recognize the pun until after I typed the sentence LOL
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Scum can be low effort and coast, town can be low effort and just not really care.
Scum can be high effort and try to pocket people, town can be high effort and try hard to gamesolve.
All of these possibilities are realistic in every game played on the site, the difference is HOW they're going about it and whether how they're going about their play is indicative of a scum mindset or not.
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You're going to have to explain this one to me, my friend.In post 346, the worst wrote:
not here nahIn post 344, Shoshin wrote:
Can you answer my question?In post 341, the worst wrote:
there is madness in my methodIn post 337, Shoshin wrote:the worst, why is Sajj town?
she's very transparently town, I'm a bit worried you don't see it- Reality Check
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VOTE: the worstIn post 372, the worst wrote:So..... Don't have townreads because they could be scum and don't have scumreaes because they could be town
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The purpose of it was exactly what I said in that post, that effort by itself is NAI.
Why did you feel the need to misrep it into me saying you shouldn't have reads?- Reality Check
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Because it's a way of reading people that isn't effective longer term? That's a reach out to Taly for him to restructure how he's getting reads because I'm seeing a lot of townreads for effort and scumreads for lack of effort, which is fine for getting people to contribute more, but significantly less accurate when you're trying to lynch actual scum.- Reality Check
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These are the impressions I got this from, plus I got a very similar feeling from your very first post in this thread.In post 379, Vartsun wrote:At what point have I made reads and thought OR even gave the impression that:
"Yay! I'm just going to slap a read on this person because they're TRYING."
If people read my posts consistently, I'm not just basing my thoughts off surface level shit that has no relevance; I genuinely do perceive my scumreads by coming from a scum mentality and that's not SPECIFICALLY rooted in their level of effort or amount they're posting.
And honestly, even if it weren't - that's more of a reason than what quite a few people are giving, but nobody talks about that.
Thisthe worstwagon is atrocious and I'll respond in a more tactful and factually based manner when I'm not going to potentially fill the thread with rage caps AND ALSO IF people want to actually engage with my reads.
~ Taly
In post 356, Vartsun wrote:tgkfapis borderline scumclaiming with how poor their posts have been, and LITERALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS ISVARSOONWHEN I'VE DONE ALL THE POSTING.
Really doubting that this isCreature'stowngame. His only gamesolving-centered post so far has been 334 and it literally comes to no conclusion at all.
Pushingthe worstis the worst thing you could possibly do right now because he's near locktown solely due to his sensibility being higher than most of the playerlist's right now.
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I think I'd have to mindmeld with mastina about that, but you were pinging me even before that. This latest engagement is only the latest example.- Reality Check
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I don't scumread you, I actually townread you
I want you on a page where I feel like I can WORK with you, but I don't think that's viable right now since... well, that's the impression I've been getting from your reads.
If that's not actually true, then fine, I'll stop engaging until I directly see it and try again afterwards.- Reality Check
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What was your play in the first several pages of the game?In post 394, the worst wrote:
this is improtat btw AnkaIn post 388, the worst wrote:because I don't think you've played with me actually giving a fuck about a game yet- Reality Check
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No point now, tbhIn post 393, the worst wrote:your responses to Taly include nothing but armchair scumhunting logic and a clear lack of actually reading his posts critically.
Please explain specifically where you disagree with him
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In post 405, the worst wrote:tbh there are signs of a scum!mastina setup already and the fact you can't logically explain yourself when you're normally too logical to be reasonable..........
if I had a dayvig rn lol
pedit: are those contrary?In post 389, the worst wrote:Ankathe worstthere is no world where you know me well enough to correctlytonelogicread me as scum.- Reality Check
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I get pushbacked for shit like this in just about every game I play, regardless of alignment. You literally just happened to catch me in the only game that I was almost completely DEAD ON CORRECT for most of the game. If anything, that game is exactly how not to read me.- Reality Check
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Actually, scratch that second part. I got pushback for shit plenty in that game too, and I was 100% obvtown.- Reality Check
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I caught Kokichi when everyone was townreading him and my initial scumread on brass was almost universally scorned despite actually being correct. I never once townread either slot afterwards, and the only reason I never caught the third scum is because I wanted to stay far away from the vengekill claim to avoid outing my own vengekill. If that edge case hadn't happened, I likely would have figured them out as scum too.In post 413, the worst wrote:what logic is there to read? you're squirming
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