Turn of Camn ~FIN~

[Pine]

MASTINA IS SCUM
MATHDINO IS SCUM

IMPLOSION IS PROBABLY SCUM THOUGH LOWER CONFIDENCE THAN THE ABOVE TWO

NOT SURE ABOUT 4 BUT OH FUCKING WELL

TOWN
Centipede Syndrome
Northsidegal
Mulch
Keychain
BBmolla
Lady Lambdadelta
Ginngie

MOST LIKELY TOWN
Firebringer
MariaR
xRECKONERx

MOST LIKELY SCUM
Implosion

SCUM
Brian Skies
mastina

PEOPLE LEFT
shos
DrippingGoofball
Aristophanes
Madoka and Homura

I just felt like pointing this out.

[Aristophanes]

I just felt like pointing this out.

Why!?!?

Goddamit Pine I have my own wine! I don't need any of yours!

[Keychain]

There's no real wine from your perspective, not sure what's bothering you. If DGB is conftown, all that post says is that you're scum. If you're town, you already know that's incorrect, so you can disregard it.

Okay, that does seem legit.

Why wouldn't Implo have been all over that too though? He never once voted scum the entire game! Surely if a quick death was hoped for he would have jumped on that, no?

Having all three of them do the same thing on D1 would tie them together too much, I would think.

[Aristophanes]

There's no real wine from your perspective, not sure what's bothering you. If DGB is conftown, all that post says is that you're scum. If you're town, you already know that's incorrect, so you can disregard it.

Okay, that does seem legit.

Why wouldn't Implo have been all over that too though? He never once voted scum the entire game! Surely if a quick death was hoped for he would have jumped on that, no?

Having all three of them do the same thing on D1 would tie them together too much, I would think.

Yeah, I decided not to worry about that post. I figure he's up to something so let's not give Pine any attention! (Sorry my friend! <3)

Yeah also true, good point.

Goddammit! Camn, DGB, do either of their cases help you? I am still feeling Key but she has some decent points here
I'm doing all I can here but geez!

[DrippingGoofball]

I put myself in a scum's shoes. My scumpal mastina announces her self-immolation in her first post.

I'm bus'ing/ I'm spending the whole day bus'ing. Nothing else.

And that's what molla did.

[DrippingGoofball]

Math's vote on her is really strange the more that I think about it. It's in this place where he's calling it a policy vote and repeatedly espousing that she's the perfect policy lynch, but at the same time he seems to be half-assedly justifying why she is more likely scum than town. Which feels a bit intellectually disingenuous. But I still think a lot of his posting has been town. Like 88.

It is really interesting how divisive her wagon has been but I don't think it's especially meaningful especially in this kind of game. And also especially since I still think she's town and wagons on town are less informative. If she does flip scum at some point I'll think more about it but.

Reck's tunnel on mastina is possibly scum. BB's by contrast is pretty town based on the way he's justifying it (he's also town for several other reasons). Reck's just looks like scum using it as an excuse to not give real reads. He's only declared it as a policy lynch and just said that he thinks it's a lynch on town? Which is weird because for a purported policy lynch it has jack shit momentum. I don't think he'd be this gung-ho about it as town. And I don't know his meta well so it's theoretically possible that he's literally just treating the game as completely bogged down and so is refusing to put in effort to sort people but even the reads he's given are pretty meh.

[Pine]

Combined with the softing of a PR, then forgetting and claiming VT, I'm sold.

VOTE: Molla

[DrippingGoofball]

Yep. If you want to draw the kill you don't soft a PR like that.

[camn]

The softing hurts me, tbh. Like...if it's 'im trying to draw the kill', what happened later on? Why only D1?

When I'm trying to draw nightkills, which I do sometimes....I fucking draw nightkills.

[BBmolla]

viewtopic.php?p=6954580#p6954580

here's a tirade where I go off about some fake claims I've done

looking for examples of softing I've done

[BBmolla]

The softing hurts me, tbh. Like...if it's 'im trying to draw the kill', what happened later on? Why only D1?

When I'm trying to draw nightkills, which I do sometimes....I fucking draw nightkills.

we're looking to lynch me when there's not a role in existence that I could be to balance a setup with the amount of town power that would be against me. are we really questioning why I'm here and not dead???

here's me doing the opposite, claiming to be unimportant when I am important

I feel so stupid for not reading more into the Molla soft claim and not realise what he was actually doing.

Do accept my apologies Molla.

It's fine honestly, I have no bitter feelings about the whole thing.

oh hey this looks familiar

woah check out this sick 360 noscope play by me

Saying "I'm probably Cop" is the equivalent of saying "There is a possibility I am a cop"

it's literally

meaningless

actually don't claim, let's assume you're a role who can get another report and no lynch, I'm probably a protective role.

wow guys look at that

FUCK THE SOFT CLAIM THE ONLY ONLY ONLY PEOPLE WHO SHOULD GIVE A SHIT OR NOTE IT ARE SCUM

EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD FUCKING

IGNORE

IT

CAUSE

IT'S

MEANINGLESS

huh you know guys this whole soft claiming doesn't seem to work out for me, maybe I shouldn't do that anymore

[BBmolla]

DGB I really don't know what to tell you other than you're making assumptions that just aren't true. I voted mastin cause whenever she does these stupid fucking gambits she is scum. ive played with her multiple times. there was no secret plot from the start, I'm sorry that im so good at reading mastin I'll try to suck more so it's more "believable."

like fuck I don't know what you guys want from me, I'm not scum, all the fucking arrows point to me not being scum, can we instead look at which player in this LYLO would actually fool everyone and lynch them instead of the obvious lynchbaits?

[BBmolla]

like I think Pine has been super obvious all day about key being his partner but wifom whatever, ill quote this postgame after we mislynch me and me and pine can have a good laugh about how dumb you guys were

[BBmolla]

You are assuming that molla, if scum, is a goon. A scum busdriver and town redirector is a strange combo, I reckon.

Town-Odd night redirector and Scum Even Night Bus Driver

that's not odd, that's expected and actually makes sense

[BBmolla]

My role fits me really well too fwiw

What did this mean, BB?

also what kind of lame payoff as scum would it be for me to set myself up here for a badass role slam dunk and not take it

that's fucking lame

[BBmolla]

Subject: Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

Thor please take me off the list, I'm important, thank you.

Subject: Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

Yes this is a soft claim, I'm not going into night as a vig canidate so fuck off.

I was cop for these quotes, I donno if that means anything

[BBmolla]

and then I claimed VT who was getting amn cop results

what a fun game that was

[BBmolla]

How does aristo-scum come up with this lol doc-claim? Theoretically?
It seems to ~bad~ to be fake.

Why do you see that claim as bad?

Don't you see how much sense it makes with a scum bus driver?

[BBmolla]

keychain if ari is scum, what role do you think they have? likely an even-night something still, no?

[BBmolla]

game is hard ladies and gents.

[camn]

You are assuming that molla, if scum, is a goon. A scum busdriver and town redirector is a strange combo, I reckon.

Town-Odd night redirector and Scum Even Night Bus Driver

that's not odd, that's expected and actually makes sense

I kind of agree.
And this game IS hard.

[camn]

Actually, Goof...I'm feeling a 180 in myself on the softclaim business.
Like...as scum I'm gonna set up my fakeclaim. Im gonna be ready, and consistent. If I have a PR, I'm gonna play it as if I were town, so if I'm tracked, my targets all make sense.

Keyblade did this.
Molla did not.

Could molla be shortsighted, crappy scum? Maybe. But probably not....and DEFINITELY not with Pine in his scumchat- for seven fucking days.

The bus on mastina is scummy, sure. But on claims I like Key for scum more. I liked Parama for scum too. I think we gotta go Keychain here, and if we are wrong, and got scooped by BBmolla lolscum, so be it.

[Pine]

Awww come on, don't let BB off the hook like that! He's obviously flailing.

[DrippingGoofball]

Pine is giving us some solid right here.

[Pine]

I'm trying to help! Don't let BB off the hook so easily!