Lynch the Wolves (Game Over)

[Almost50]

I saw "

Anonymous

3-headed hydra" and I thought RC

must

be in there, then I was shocked to see him playing by himself!!!

[Almost50]

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Awright! That's one of them.

Can I take a wild guess on the second? Titus??

No idea who the third is, unless "Luna" is supposed to be a hint.

[Almost50]

Katsuki is one of the three, idk the others.

"The Wall" is a trademark for Gork. That I know.

[Almost50]

They didn't join anonymously to consciously out one of the heads.

It's not cheetory.

Who says it's "consciously"? Only myself and Mahblade were in the rerun of

The Real Folks Blues

, so maybe he didn't intend for it to be outed this way.

But anyway, we will know soon enough because Gorky SRs me right off the bat 90% of the time.

[Almost50]

Nice try, but the missing brick gave you away.

[Almost50]

How can we solve this game?

Mass claiming is always an option.

[Almost50]

/confirm Flying Pumpkin That Shoots Laser Beams Out Of Its Ass

I wouldn't put it beyond Mastina to actually use this role at some point.

[Almost50]

i imagine TGP was joking?

I imagine that you would imagine so.

[Almost50]

Almost50 are you town? I get the feeling you are.

I always am.

I also believe I'm obliged to say "I'm town" as either alignment, so what was the point of the question?

[Almost50]

....How do you steal a bunch of goats and poison dogs without being noticed?

How is this relevant?

She's crumbing NINJA. Pay attention.

[Almost50]

....How do you steal a bunch of goats and poison dogs without being noticed?

How is this relevant?

She's crumbing NINJA. Pay attention.

Actually, Ninja Poisoner... I haven't quite figured out the stealing part, but it could be a reference to "stealth" which further confirms the Ninja modifier.

[Almost50]

People can be such bastards at times.

Here's something to ponder on: Why do we always attribute bad deeds to "bastards"? It's not like legitimate kids from legitimate marriages are less prone to being evil! Is it?

[Almost50]

Hey Almost, when will you post something semi seriously.

We're past the honeymoon period in our relationship this game.

What game? Did Mastina announce the beginning of the game?

[Almost50]

How can we solve this game?

Mass claiming is always an option.

Can we be friends?

I don't see why not. Do you?

[Almost50]

VOTE: One of the two who haven't posted yet

[Almost50]

I demand that for the duration of this game everyone calls me beautiful from now on.

OK, beautiful from now on, do you have serious reads yet?

[Almost50]

@beautiful from now on: Mind sharing?

[Almost50]

Yay I'm here. Will catch up in a bit.

VOTE: A50

OMGUS vote coming up:

VOTE: 5. Definition

Reason: "One of the two who hadn't posted" already did, and she's voting me, so I return the fire by voting the other one who hasn't yet voted.

Possible deductions:

a- A50 is scum with Cheeky and won't vote her
b- A50 is scum with Definition and is distancing
c- A50 is scum with neither of them (but scum he is) and is being goofy
d- A50 isn't scum, and is just being himself for .. WAIT! Do I need a

reason

to act like

myself

?

I could go on, but you get the drill ... drift ... draft ... whatever

[Almost50]

i've been thinking about TGP

I think he's taken though.

[Almost50]

*Do not go down the rabbit hole*

I

would

go down there but only

IF I was certain

it indeed is a "rabbit" hole. What makes you think it's not a fox den or even a snake hole??

[Almost50]

Rabbit hole is a phrase/idiom.

I know it's an idio

m

. I was just being an idio

t

.

[Almost50]

Alright, Creature's been posting elsewhere, but I'm not sure if it's AI yet (he posted in the Open Games queue, which -obviously- isn't a game thread, and that's why I dunno what to make of it).

Mathblade does look like town to me. Ursula's tone strikes me as confident, so probably town too. Not gonna force reads on any other slots so I'll wait and see how things develop.

[Almost50]

Well user:

Yuurei

, I am talking this way because this is who I am.
How does your question "How come you write and vote "user: MathBlade" is really silly to the computer, as I am voting who I believe is scum.
The computer thinks that you, user:

Yurrei

, does not care about the answer to this question and is ultimately really silly.

Bad spellers of the world: UNTIE!

[Almost50]

Well user:

Yuurei

, I am talking this way because this is who I am.
How does your question "How come you write and vote "user: MathBlade" is really silly to the computer, as I am voting who I believe is scum.
The computer thinks that you, user:

Yurrei

, does not care about the answer to this question and is ultimately really silly.

Bad spellers of the world: UNTIE!

Initiating Screenshot.Exe

The user: Yuurei
is spelled exactly identical as to the post you are referencing.

Did you miss something??

[Almost50]

Are we going to spend the whole day talking about TGP's joke? I've tried to be goofy enough with series pf lame jokes/puns in hopes to catch some attention myself. Alas. Those who know me know me too well I suppose, and my ways are getting old, maybe?

Anyway, We can -perhaps- try to look at someone whose name's not abbreviated as TGP?? There are 17 other slots, y'know. One of which hasn't posted at all, so 16 other slots. Anything? Anyone??

[Almost50]

in any case, what do you think of northsidegal's read on keychain and of my points about Luna?

NSG is likely town (but not yet a lock read). I don't see eye to eye with her on KC (I null read her still), but "maybe" she knows her better.

As for your point on Luna I also have no clear view because it takes me more time to sort players I have no experience with. I've never player with you and I don't even know who Ursula is. All I can say is I don't think the two of you are scum together, so if this is single ball at

least one

of you should be lock town. If it turns to be MB, then you could be on two different sides, but I can't rule out both being scum.

P.S. In a game this size, and with Mastina as a mod, it's be stupid to "just assume" it's single ball. This is why I'm trying to "town hunt" more in this game.

P.S.2 Gun to my head, and at this precise point, my guess is Luna vs Yuuri is TvT, but don't quote me on it just yet.

[Almost50]

reading it again, i retract my opinion about almost50 having sole town motivations there, i'll look more in-depth later but why are you criticizing the discussion about TGP's joke when we've not been solely focused on him?

we talked about other slots, it's you that showed no interest in saying anything about them

and i mean it all with no offense intended

Frankly, THIS is why I "think" you might be town. You sound too paranoid about most everybody. I'll try to give you a hint, but you're at liberty to take my advice or not: Let those who know me sort me. I'll even give you a detailed list of them:

NSG:

Played me enough times (and more recently so) and is well capable of reading me as either alignment.

Mathblade:

Also has extensive experience with me. He used to auto-SR me and even tunnel me at first, but then he learned how to read me.

RC:

It's been a while now, but he used to know me too well. I mean, the last time we played together and we were both town we still SR'd each other (off site), but overall he has some key elements about my play he is more likely to correctly peg me than not.

Now I won't claim I'm that easy to read still, but if all 3 say I'm scum then I'm 90% so. If they say I'm Town then I'm 80% so.

Next level: Cheeky & Creature. I don't know how

they

trust themselves to be able to read me, but I say it's a very good chance.

Then we have: HeWhoSwims, ArcAngel9, TGP, Vecna & hebican. The former two may have not played me but they have modded me, so they have seen me "from above". The latter 3 are familiar with me, but I wouldn't really count on them pegging me correctly in every game we play together.

The rest: Archwing & Keychain have both played me before, but it's almost as if they didn't when it comes to trying to meta me. Theta, Definition, Aronis and Yuuri are all new names to me (don't have any finished games with either), and I don't know who Luna Nova are, so I have no idea of how well they know me, and I certainly will have to treat them as total strangers to me until further notice.

tl;dr:

Sheep NSG, MB & RC and you have a very very good chance of pegging me.

Again; feel free to ignore my tip. It's just that I know I'm a hard read and especially so to those who play me for the first time.

[Almost50]

VOTE: swims

That post last post has so much wish wash logic its actually hard to parse, and the vagueness of "why these arguments" feels like you're trying to force content.

Votes here till something worse comes by me.

By this logic this very post from you is you trying to force content. Can you elaborate on why HWS post is/should be considered suspicious while yours isn't/shouldn't be?

[Almost50]

A50 why multiball specifically?

because the mod is Mastina and when you tryb to out guess her you are going to end up disappointed 99% of the time.

[Almost50]

Yuurei feels very lock-town'ish to me
The hydra under fire seems pretty town to me as well
Would love to see creature post more. Pretty please darling?
NSG, I would love to see longer posts from detailing how she feels about certain people

No people that give me try-hard scum vibes yet (-maaaybe Mathblade)

With the exception of Mathblade, I agree with all the above.

[Almost50]

How is confidence AI?

How confident are you at the start of the game when you draw scum??

[Almost50]

When you say "my ways are getting old" it sounds like you're assuming people are townreading you?

Nope. Just not falling for my traditional traps. I have to think of new tricks.

[Almost50]

Claiming to be able to soulread me is too obviously fake from my perspective

What if I told you I'm a white hat and I have just broken into the FBI main system and downloaded your entire file on a flash memory chip?

[Almost50]

@Everyone addressing me, please wait till I'm caught up (do ask/comment, but just wait for me to get there to respond). Thanks.

[Almost50]

Mathblade is very capable scum, and jumping on you for that rather awkward joke is not what I would call obvtown.

That's a bit of a contradiction IMHO. Math IS INDEED very capable as scum, and that's why he would NOT be doing such silly pushes as scum. Just my 40% of a nickel.

[Almost50]

skimming that donner game made me wish NM is playing.

M_M makes every game doubly interesting regardless of his own alignment or who's playing.

[Almost50]

Remembering that game makes me happy NM isn't here.

I almost voted you for this statement.

[Almost50]

Yah,

been not wanting to play this game lately

I'm demotivated I rolled scum.

Fixed it for you.

VOTE: Creature

@RC: You still TR this???

[Almost50]

Yeah, can agree PSG is town

I didn't know Paris Saint-Germain were playing in this game!

UNVOTE:

Creature can be town for that series of "void" posts.

@Yuuri: The difference between Scum!Creature & Town!Creature is day/night. The former just lurks unril he gets lynched. The latter posts. Whether his posts have depth is irrelevant, but eventually Town!Creature will spew off better reads than I will on my average day.

[Almost50]

I'm just copying lyrics anyway.

Spoiler:

Cuba
Quiero bailar la salsa

[Almost50]

Replying within quote

in italics

Reasons to lynch Luna nova:
They're a hydra

two heads are better than one.

They're anonymous

So are you to me.

They have more than 2 heads

Even better.

They're rude

I didn't see that.

They're mean

Ask politely and thou shalt be given generously.

They might be scum

Everyone might be. This is the idea behind playing the game.

Some of their heads are lurking

Maybe hat's why they

are

in a hydra? Maybe one head doesn't have the time to play the game on D1 but still wanted to play anyway so asked for the other two to hold the fort for them until they have more time?

This isn't hard to see guys, they need to die

I'm starting to feel this is not a natural innocent push, but I'm not quite sure what to make of it (i.e. Does Aronis know something we/I don't know?)

[Almost50]

tell you what hebichan, if you get swimming to L-1, I'll hammer

I'll promise the same if you manage to get luna to l-1.

I see you both and raise you one: I hereby pledge to do a N_M on either of you is either gets to L-1.

[Almost50]

Reasons to lynch Luna nova:
They're a hydra
They're anonymous
They have more than 2 heads
They're rude
They're mean

None of these are scumtells

1. I didn't ask for your opinion
2. They are
3. Go away

And you call the hydra rude???

[Almost50]

Aronis and Creature are town.

Ursula

If you say so.

P.S. I agree Creature is town.

[Almost50]

This started before I could complete my pre-game agenda. I feel numb inside but as I read this

a wagon seems like an efficient method of transportation

I feel as though gravity has alleviated its grip a bit. I hope we're dealing with the three-pronged trouser god, btw

My name is kuribo, and I'm a certified G, and a bonafied stud. And you can't. Teach. That.
And this right here, this is T-Bone. And he's seven foot tall. And you can't. Teach. That.
And this right here, this is Untrod Tripod. And he's hot as hell. And you can't Teach. That.
Badaboom, Realest hydra in the room! HOW YOU DOIN'?
If we had two dimes for every time someone mislynched us, we'd have ZERO DIMES.
There's just one word to describe anyone that tries to wagon us, and we're gonna... Spell it out for ya:
S
A
W
F
T
SAAAAAAAAAWFT
Concept

I'll catch up soon.

So, even though the pronoun is set to "he", Definition is actually a 3 headed hydra. Now how would Aronis feel about THAT?

[Almost50]

@11. beautiful from now on: Could you, maybe, FOR ONCE, try to lynch someone you're scum reading, rather than someone who scum reads you? I mean, I need to see the

normal progression

of reads on you, and your approach is totally ruining it for me.

Let's assume I'm 100% sure you're town (just for the sake of this argument). Obviously, scum will suck up to you and avoid pushing you at all costs, and you're going to end up mislynching a townie for sure (because only a stubborn townie would still voice their suspicions towards you). Now what? AM I supposed to SR those who TR you?? I dunno how to get reads on other people if you're going to threaten everyone who points a finger at you, and I'm sure you can argue your way out of a lynch regardless of your alignment, so why not let people freely state what they think (or want to fake) and let the rest of us try and figure stuff for ourselves?

[Almost50]

tbh don't know what to do if players want to lynch town

Spoiler: First and foremost

Don't join the wagon.

Spoiler: Second

Voice out your reasons for TRing subject.

Spoiler: Third

If you have a string SR; offer them for an alternative wagon with a good case.

Spoiler: Finally

Make sure your reads are well known before we go into the night.

How's that?

[Almost50]

When you say "my ways are getting old" it sounds like you're assuming people are townreading you?

Nope. Just not falling for my traditional traps. I have to think of new tricks.

And who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks

You might need new glasses. I'm currently a MONKEY (which is more or less "the other animal")

[Almost50]

Yah,

been not wanting to play this game lately

I'm demotivated I rolled scum.

Fixed it for you.

VOTE: Creature

@RC: You still TR this???

If this doesn't change by the time you're caught up I'm death tunneling you.

Sorry to have disappointed you, but..

[Almost50]

@Almost50 then because of that meta tell you are confident that creature is town even though i don't see alignment content from his posts? who in this game aside from you has meta knowledge in creature as well?

Almost everyone, I suppose?! I mean, if you've played 3 games on Mafiascum within the last 12 months you must've heard about Creature (and Not_Mafia). The former lurks it out as Scum and the latter lol!hammers as either alignment (so never put someone @L-1 if N_M's not already voting them unless you want them dead with or without a claim).

I can provide you with dozens of examples (here and on Mafiauniverse too), but I'll spare you the trouble and link you to a couple of his recent games.

1- Scum!Creature.
2- Town!Creature.
3- Town!Creature. (I wasn't in this)
4- Town!Creature.
5- Scum!Creature.

Now if you want more you probably can look them up yourself.

<<< Fixing tag. >>>

[Almost50]

Omg it's Mariah! XD

Tell you the truth I wasn't aware of that until you told me (I kinda stopped caring about charts and new releases a decade ago), so I googled it and got it on youtube, and boy THAT SUCKS! I mean she totally ruined a classic!!
It's like having Brendan Fraser & Sofia Vergara for the remake of Ghost or something!!

[Almost50]

Omg it's Mariah! XD

Tell you the truth I wasn't aware of that until you told me (I kinda stopped caring about charts and new releases a decade ago), so I googled it and got it on youtube, and boy THAT SUCKS! I mean she totally ruined a classic!!
It's like having Brendan Fraser & Sofia Vergara for the remake of Ghost or something!!

how dare you!!!

I happily listened to it like 5 times annoying my neighbours with my Mariah impersonation. She's my fav

Oh, I love Mariah Carey, but I don't necessarily agree doing covers is her thing (no pun)

Can you imagine .. um.. erm.. Snoop Dogg doing a cover version of Cotton Eye Joe?

[Almost50]

I wish I could say all I want to say in the open, but that would probably be anti-town at this time.
I also wish I could

ask

all the questions I want to, but then again that would

definitely

be anti-town too.

I'm in a bit of a pickle regarding some of you, and I'm still trying to figure out how to go about it.

[Almost50]

@RC: Can you share some readlist with some reasoning behind the reads? I haven't seen anything resembling the town beacon you are in this game. Not wanting to lead is OK, but you're not even sharing much either. What gives?

[Almost50]

Is A50 role crumbing?

It feels like he is.

If you are, please keep it in your pants for now.
……………………

Creature, for us in the town pool, what would you have us do that we aren't?

I'm neither confirming nor denying it (being a PR), but I'm genuinely wondering where you got that from, because I don't think I so much as hinted anything regarding the matter.

If you're specifically referring to me wishing I could say/ask what I want, it

was

a hint alright, but not of my own role.

[Almost50]

@MOD: I unvoted Creature in 481

<<< Fixed. >>>

[Almost50]

I'm not joining the TGP wagon because it feels like a deja vu

I could be right or could be wrong (about his alignment) but if you refer to the linked game I was way far off base because he played something similar to this. (If you spot a difference in his play between here and there, please do help me see it).

[Almost50]

this game pace is too much..

To each their own. I feel like the pace is just right. Not too fast I can't keep up nor too slow I get bored.

The problem is some slots have completely fallen off the face of the planet. Definition has ONE BLOODY POST. How a I supposed to get a read on someone I don't even know from one post??? (Well, I could if it was an Innocent Child asking to be confirmed, a Treestump requesting to be stumped, or maybe if he posted his role PM and got banned for it!)

[Almost50]

Uh sure, we could test other wagons and see which is better

Oh, yes. You were in that game. How's TGP playing differently here if at all?

[Almost50]

Uh sure, we could test other wagons and see which is better

Oh, yes. You were in that game. How's TGP playing differently here if at all?

He still needs to show he's town because I'm not feeling like giving him a free pass.

I'm not giving a free pass per se. Just not confident enough to want ro his lynch today, lest he flips a "Town Elemental Doctor".

You see, TGP was one of those I was referring to in the post hebi thought I was "crumbing" in. I'm not saying who else, because it's not needed. I'm specifying TGP now because a serious wagon is forming on him.

[Almost50]

VOTE: NSG

I'm not convinced she's scum here either but I'm tired of waiting for her to show the true Town!NSG I'm used to.

[Almost50]

Naaah! That doesn't feel right. I'm not gonna let someone get away with a single post all day.

VOTE: Definition

[Almost50]

I suggest we all do pressure this slot (Definition) to either post or replace out. Ankamius is at the top of the replacements queue, and I believe there are enough players who can read her in this game.

P-edit: Mathblade? Help with Definition?

[Almost50]

UNVOTE:

@Mathbalde:

I'm not gonna ISO you (You have 138 posts already and counting) to search for your response to his post, but I'll take your word for it. Still, don't you think a replacement that actually plays the game is better regardless?

[Almost50]

Will be taking a short break to eat dinner, tho.

When you're my age, eating a full dinner gives you a big belly. That is why I renamed all my 7 meals to breakfast, thus confusing the in-going calories.

[Almost50]

I'm still not going to vote until Definition is back or replaced.

[Almost50]

What do you get when you mix Nero Cain with RadiantCowbells? A FAKE DAYCOP.

[Almost50]

the claim is serious: vote there or vote me.

When was the last time you say a Day Cop in action?
Never mind that.
When was the last time you saw that Day Cop needed to submit their action in public?

Hint: I'm talking about MAFIASCUM.

[Almost50]

I am taking that completely out of context but that doesn’t change the fact that the guilty is still faked imo.

An invitation to play in my first tailored setup (in something between a month and century from now) to whomever tells me what I think is wrong with this post.

[Almost50]

I am taking that completely out of context but that doesn’t change the fact that the guilty is still faked imo.

An invitation to play in my first tailored setup (in something between a month and century from now) to whomever tells me what I think is wrong with this post.

for the record this reaction is the huge thing that everything else follows from: if they were town (regardless of read on me) there's no reason to argue that the guilty is fake.
arguing that the guilty is fake is hedging for a universe in which it's real imo, particularly given the choice of quotes to pull.

Close, but not quite. I can see a townie who knows they're town to argue against the guilty being guilty. I just don't see them adding "imo" at the end of it. On other words "the guilty is still faked" is the way a townie would phrase it because they know it's a fact. "the guilty is still faked

imo

" show doubt in their own alignment.

Conclusion: My vote is on Luna in spirit, but I still want Definition to get replaced and TALK before we end the day.

[Almost50]

I am taking that completely out of context but that doesn’t change the fact that the guilty is still faked imo.

An invitation to play in my first tailored setup (in something between a month and century from now) to whomever tells me what I think is wrong with this post.

They don't say that the guilty isn't possible because they're town and look for out-of-context evidence of it possibly being fake instead? Also why aren't they pushing RC harder if they are conf biased it's fake?

Correct. "possibly" being the keyword. "imo" suggest they "think" it "might" be faked. That is definitely how I would have said it if it was faked on me, because I

know

I'm town, so I won't "think" it's fake but rather would be

positive

it is.

[Almost50]

Almost50 what am I missing?

I'd appreciate it if you rephrased/specified while I go read the new posts

[Almost50]

Hey all

Welcome

Please do your best to catch up and post as we're running out of time.

P.S. No read on your slot since Definition posted only once then flaked. Can you help me with that?

[Almost50]

alright i think i might actually be able to read you so UNVOTE:

i do not agree with some of the reasoning for luna being scum
the imo thing for one is explained by the fact that luna is a hydra
as in that heads opinion

So, that head's opinion is that the guilty is fake, but another head might think it's legit?? GET OUT OF HERE.

[Almost50]

VOTE: Luna

[Almost50]

I dunno. I mean, I didn't like Theta's defense, while KC (I think) made a better effort at concealing her defence, stating it might be a habit rather than anything meaningful. I can take that with a grain of salt. Some people do use certain expressions (such as: like, you know.. etc)

It would definitely help if I knew who Diana is so as to search her posts to see if she uses "imo" more often like that.

[Almost50]

GET OUT OF HERE.

FA is scum.

Wait! WHAT? Theta = FA????

[Almost50]

I dunno. I mean, I didn't like Theta's defense, while KC (I think) made a better effort at concealing her defence, stating it might be a habit rather than anything meaningful. I can take that with a grain of salt. Some people do use certain expressions (such as: like, you know.. etc)

It would definitely help if I knew who Diana is so as to search her posts to see if she uses "imo" more often like that.

Alt outing IMHO is a dick move. The hydra is anonymous for a reason.

Even though they used meta in describing me, their wish was to remain anonymous so I will not answer that question.

You don't have to out them. Just do the search yourself if you know Diana, and return a result: Does she usually use "imo" casually?

[Almost50]

I find it sort of worrying that a lot of people are suddenly scumreading TGP, but only now that its highly likely that another person is gonna be the lynch today. Almost like theyre setting them
selves up to already look good for the (possible) mislynch today, so they can get town cred for a TGP lynch tomorrow.

Mate, crazy theories are

my

department, so you need my permission to post like that.

OK, let's go one further (not that I believe in anything I'm about to say), but why not say both Luna and TGP are town and scum are trying to set TGP up to look like the counterwagon so when Luna flips green TGP is tomorrow's easy mislynch?

Or, we can say they're both scum and when Luna flips red TGP looks much better because he was the counterwagon to flipped scum.

Stay tuned for more crazy shit..

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

We are a neighborizor

who cares

Can you elaborate on the underlined?

[Almost50]

and when theta flips scum, presuming we lynch them first, treat that as a guilty on Luna.

idc what your independent read on the slot is.

Walk me through this .. really slow.. please

[Almost50]

OK, so there are double roles on the town side? One that is Human and one that is a WW "who cares"?? Is that what you guys are saying or am I misunderstanding?

[Almost50]

very interested in seeing if there is any opposition to hewhoswims as i do not recall anyone saying he was town

He's null to me, and I think it's a play style thing. In other words, I dunno what to expect from Town!HWS vs Scum!HWS. Put another way: I have no reason to push him nor do I have any reason to defend him.

[Almost50]

Someone who's around, convince me on your vote?

You probably won't get an answer to this. All I see is people moving their votes around to see where it fits (with very few exceptions).

Personally, I want to move my vote of Luna, but I don't know where to vote. I'll probably settle for HWS but not because I have anything solid against him (I explained this earlier). He's just unreadable to me and is not being active enough for my liking.

[Almost50]

Am I the only one who sees it though or am I just nuts? I gotta go but there's something wrong there.

I saw it.. didn't feel like turning the thread into a circus.. decided to sleep on. You're not crazy (I mean, you

are

.. just not on this one)

[Almost50]

Did anyone do anything while I was gone?

Why should they? You're not doing anything when you're

present

! (Cheap shot, yes, but it's also true. You;re posting one-liners that add next to nothing and you don't explain any of your reads. If it was anyone else but you I'd be SRing them for the same content you have provided so far.)

[Almost50]

mastina, can you please poke the following players?
Luna Nova
HeWhoSwims

Almost50

Theta Alpine
Ankamius
TheGoldenParadox
Archwing's Replacement
ArcAngel9
Creature
CheekyTeeky
RadiantCowbells
Vecna
MathBlade
hebichan
Keychain
northsidegal
Yuurei

I would really appreciate it, thank you

Ruuuuuuude!

[Almost50]

....I literally proved it before the day began.

Wait a miunte! You had a N0 action? Please tell me more.. I mean, NOT about the current neighborhood, but about your ability. (1) Can you still add more people to it? (2) Are you going to act tonight?

P.S. I wouldn't have asked if you didn't already spell it out. I mean, I would have preferred if you didn't, but since you already did I see no harm in asking for these specific two points.

[Almost50]

Mathblade........ Just cause you got a scum PT with some friends where you can choose to kill someone

or try to find a traitor

to join you doesn't mean a neighborizer can't exist.

Where did you get the underlined from??

[Almost50]

Mathblade, that role sounds extremely third party.

Or how about the second mafia faction?

WARNING: A50 levels moonlogic detected. You're even about to leave that and enter a Titus jurisdiction (or maybe it's the other way around? I dunno)

[Almost50]

no, I'd want you to claim mason without revealing your partner, which would push you up one bracket, and then ~2 nights later when your unrevealed mason buddy died, you would be bumped to the top bracket.

Why would the "unrevealed" Mason die over the revealed one??

[Almost50]

math claimed to be in a neighborhood which voted on two things
what person they would target
and whether they would kill or neighborize that target

I didn't get it like that, but a reread makes it make sense that way too.

[Almost50]

Spoiler:

Aronis, I was taking a bath, and I had the same idea...

Yup, this is multiball.

I have proof!

Luna and Math are both opposing scum, which is why math isn't putting down a vote.

A50 cumbed having extra information, and math said some of his buddies crumbed. A50 was also the one who first brought up multiball as a possibility.

MB said I was calling him scum, when I said third party, even though I never specified third party scum.

Vecna brought up the possibility of "non mafia wolves" from his role pm.

UNVOTE:

This needs to be discussed now.
We haven't been able to lynch two leading wagons who no one has put up a solid town read on because people keep flaking off them.


If this is the case, the teams look something like
(mathblade, A50, and one of swims or less likely vecna) vs (Luna, TGP and ???)

[Almost50]

I wouldn't be if A50 wasn't both in MB's "neighborhood" and the first to bring up the possibility.

FTR, I am not in any neighborhoods (as of yet. I can't read the future so I'm speaking of the current moment).

[Almost50]

Lynch The Wolves

Playername

's Role PM

Playername, Human Villager

Welcome to Lynch the Wolves,

Playername

.

---

You are a

Human Villager

.

• DAY POWERS:
  • You may vote and use your voice.
• WIN CONDITION:
  You win if all
  Werewolves
  are dead, and at least one
  human
  member of
  the

  Town
  is left alive.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Good luck, and have fun!

Game thread is here.

AFAIK this indicates just one faction.

Sometimes I speak too soon. Creature is likely right though (I'm older now thus presumably wiser)

The way it's phrased suggests there are Wolves allied with the town (Mastina loves mixing species ). They are the "3rd party faction" (but only so to speak) and they are aligned with the town, thus their survival isn't essential for the TOWN win (but it could be in their own win-con in order for THEM to win with the town).

Where do I get this? Go check Gestou. In addition to the town faction

S

there were also non-human 3P factions that were going to win with the town if the 3 scum factions (2 main factions and one cult) were eliminated with at least one of the non-human 3P members alive. At that point we were offered the choice between "ending the war" and accepting a shared win or rejecting the treaty which would have turned it into a war between humans and non-humans that were previously aligned with us.

In short, Maybe it isn't MB as in 2 SCUM factions (yet maybe it is), but it sure is MB in the sense that not all non-scum are in the same faction.

If you still don't understand, GO READ GESTOU. That was one of the BEST games I have ever played (setup-wise, I mean).

The same applied to some of Varsoon games (SU & SU2 most notably) where a 3P faction exists but only wins WITH THE TOWN (so if the town is eliminated they would lose, but also if they were eliminated even if the twon eventually wins).

Over and out.

P.S. I am HUMAN, and I am aligned with the TOWN. A lie-detector (if exists) may check this at will. Or they may refer to my previous post where I stated I wasn't in any neighborhoods. That post is also a good hint for a PT-Cop if one exists to validate. I mean, with as many PTs as there appears to be here a PT-Cop is very likely IMHO, and YES I have seen the role before in a game I played long ago on this site.

[Almost50]

scum!A50 would want us to think it's singleball.

OMG!

I was wondering why you TR'd me when you tend to SR me all the time, and now I know. You were with me in Soccer Spirit. Right???? And you were also in Gistou (I dunno why I keep spelling it with an 'e'). Now I know, and it makes me feel better about you. (I wasn't exactly suspicious of you, but that tingling feeling of wondering why I'm such a

strong

TR of yours always bothered me some.)

[Almost50]

But why is town math not voting on Luna?

Transparency is a shitpoor excuse to give up a PR like that.

Let me get this straight: So Math is scum because he

isn't

voting Luna, and I'm his p because

I am

voting Luna, although Math is the one who almost CC'd Luna in public? Does this even make sense

to you

? One member of the faction counter claims yet doesn't vote and lets his partner vote in his stead?? Feel free to explain more if you feel that I'm misunderstanding/misrepresenting your argument.

[Almost50]

On a side-note, congratulations are in order! We have a scummer who is in need of a new account,

Actually

50!

Or I could pretend it's "Almost 50 months of playing Mafia".

Thanks, Mastina.

[Almost50]

Luna is been lurky as hell so are the other players. It's not AI.

It's bloody worrying when it's a 3-headed hydra lurking. At least from my PoV.

[Almost50]

I'm probably going to cancel the catch up until I'm a lot more motivated to do it (

basically when RL stops doing asspulls

)

That's another way of saying you're

never

catching up.

[Almost50]

whats worrying more is that luna wagon is racing up and there isn't a counter wagon yet.

I'm afraid you haven't been following the game closely. There has been counter wagons, most notably on HWS and TGP, and at some point they were even the largest.

That said, none of the 3 has been exactly active and none of them has provided a good argument for why they should be spared at all. If there's a Vig they should take care of the likes of these, I think. If you talk there's always a way to sort you. If you don't, I -for one- am not going to be able to read you at all (except when Creature decides not to talk)

[Almost50]

Nos is probably town

Nos is definitely town. I'd bet the game on both here and Mathblade being town at this point.

In fact, I also TR Vecna, northsidegal, Yuurei, RadiantCowbells &, Creature (to various degrees and not necessarily in that order)

The joke is I town lean on many, including all 3 lynch suspects, but I have nothing but guts to back that up, and they're not doing themselves any favours, so... *Shrug*

[Almost50]

Hopefully HWS isn't being townread for "being a counterwagon"

He's not a Town "read" for me.. just a town "lean", as I know he is disengagement is not AI, so I'm just reading him on guts for now.

[Almost50]

Get over it

It had barely been 20 hours since I last posted when I read this (not even when you posted it). Now add the fact that it was my 50th birthday.. you should be grateful I showed up at all!

[Almost50]

I mean, you only celebrate your birthday once every year. Your

golden jubilee

though is a once-in-a-lifetime.

[Almost50]

no, I'd want you to claim mason without revealing your partner, which would push you up one bracket, and then ~2 nights later when your unrevealed mason buddy died, you would be bumped to the top bracket.

Why would the "unrevealed" Mason die over the revealed one??

Well why would I townread the dead one?

That wasn't my question though. I asked why would they

die before

the claimed one. Like, if I was scum and I had a claimed Mason, I'd know there's "another one out there" but not whom it is. Why would I try to hunt them down and leave the one I already know alive?

[Almost50]

scum!A50 would want us to think it's singleball.

OMG!

I was wondering why you TR'd me when you tend to SR me all the time, and now I know. You were with me in Soccer Spirit. Right???? And you were also in Gistou (I dunno why I keep spelling it with an 'e'). Now I know, and it makes me feel better about you. (I wasn't exactly suspicious of you, but that tingling feeling of wondering why I'm such a

strong

TR of yours always bothered me some.)

A50 can you expand on this please? I don't understand why scum would want others to think it's single-ball? But then I suck at mech spec so *shrug*

In Soccer Spirit there were 2 scum teams and 2 separate 3P players. The SK was lynched on D1 so that was taken care of, but my team (with Wisdom and beeboy/Thor) swept the game by staying hidden and convincing most of the town there was only one scum team in the game, despite the fact there was an alignment cop looking specifically for our faction.

So, IF this was indeed multi-ball and if I was a member of a scum faction then I'd probably not reveal the "extra info" I'd have because (1) Town would be looking for just one scum faction until proven otherwise, and (2) me hinting it's MB that early attracts the NK from the other scum faction my way.

tl;dr: I would totally

not

mention the possibility there indeed if I was scum and knew it was true.

However, you (or maybe someone else) may ask "what if it's single-ball and A50 knows it and is trying to mislead the town?" to which I won't return a direct answer, but those who know me probably still will know that I wouldn't do that because it's sub-optimal play (or at least it doesn't benefit me in anyway, and especially so this early).

[Almost50]

Also happy belated bday

Thank you. I've just got word that UNESCO intend to list me as one of the most valuable human heritage items.

[Almost50]

Oh so when it's multiball factions are aware of each other?

Sometimes you know and sometimes you can guess. I mean, if your team is "Secondary Mafia" you just know there has to be a "Primary Mafia" faction. If it's "Orange Mafia" you probably would guess there's a "Red Mafia" too. But if it's a random flavour .. like "The Ugly Goons" it's not quite clear, but you may still be able to guess if there are only 2 of you in a 13-players game (say).

[Almost50]

Like in that last game we all shot each other, one team had 3 main members and were told they had one traitor. The game had 41 players, What would you think?? 37 townies vs 4 scums??

[Almost50]

GGA. Too bad this "win" doesn't affect my personal stats as I didn't actually get the time to play the game, and thud didn't contribute to the win. Hell, I would have found a way to brag about how I was the N1 kill if I actually aimed for that, but like .. this time I didn't and I didn't try to bait it but I somehow still got there.

@Math: Your play was AWESOME. I mean, I had you as a STRONG TR, and for most of D1 I was thinking I may JK you. Good play is good play even when it makes me look like a fool when the truth is unfolded and you your true alignment is known. :thumbs up: