Ultimate Videogame Topic 3: The Next Generation

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Should I buy an xb1. My only concern is how far my consoles are from my screen. Anyone know how long kinect cords are?

please say shitbox instead of xb1, so we actually know what you are talking about, thanks.

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tell me how elder scrolls online goes... I'm interested.

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have abilities ever had cooldowns in elder scrolls? (i believe not but i dont' want to say dogmatically)

Not entirely sure about earlier games (pretty sure no cooldowns there), but Skyrim uses a cooldown system for shouts.

yes, there were cooldowns in oblivion. And in Daggerfall there was an animation cooldown of sorts.

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"fuck it"

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Finally got fallout 3... am blown away.

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Man, people pay for mods now a days?

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also, can anyone explain to me what the appeal of gary's mod is?

what's the appeal of life?

Are you saying that Garry's mod is life???

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also, can anyone explain to me what the appeal of gary's mod is?

Massive Source sandbox where you can build contraptions with gears and levers and basically play around with physics.

Also mods for garry's mod where you can play custom gamemodes.

why hasn't some one made a free version of it?

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always wait.

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you have the best sig since also cocks

I should stop putting periods at the end of the last sentence of my posts....

anyway... Is crusader kings II worth it if not on sale?

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anyway... Is crusader kings II worth it if not on sale?

Yes. It's a great game in general and just about the only one in it's genre.

Keep in mind that it's somewhat hard to get the hang of it.

I am no stranger to TBS games... I don't know if I shloud buy it now or just wait. I know it is a great game, but I think I could get it for less.

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so do I HAVEEEEE to have the DLC to get the full experience from the game?

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done.

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whether you rule over a kingdom or an empire I believe

does your country own other countries?

not exactly. There are no "countries". Basically you control a set of land that is required to hold the title of emperor of that empire (take germany be holy roman emperor).

Also, watched 3 hours of tutorials and have concluded CKII is best game ever. I'm glad I got my wife as a Norwegian because they came in handy to buttfuck some small counties.

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god fucking dammit Umbrage, you broke the spoiler when you quoted.

argh

implication: people care. I mean really??? another zombie game? Don't you guys know the story already? I'm a tad done with the whole zombie thing, seems like the next WWII shooter...

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Are choose your own adventures a thing again?

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someone hep me get decent at counterstrike. Thnks,

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You know you have made a popular product when there is only a 30 min window on amazon.

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Haruummmmm...

Debating on getting X-COM: Enemy Unknown while it's on sale but it's not exactly a "steal" right now and I'm not sure if it's worth it? I don't know if I'd like it. Maybe I'll torrent it to try it and buy it if it's my thing.

The original game is still bette rin my opinion. Yes, you have to deal with the really weird and, at times, truly fucked up ui, but the graphics hold up in a sorta 16-bit indi sorta way. They game is still great, the AI is still great, I would try the original before the remake.

Come to think of it, I've never been too much of a fan of remakes. I can't think of one remake that I have played that I liked better than the original.

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It also looks like 80% of xbox one buyers are coming from xbox 360s, while 60% of PS4 are coming from PS3 owners. Looks like the $100 price difference is a huge obstacle for Microsoft. I believe within the next year there will be a xbox one bundle without kinect.

I think the R&D they have spent on the Kinect is going to keep them from removing it from the system for some time. If the money that would be sunk on it wasn't an issue, it would have been removed from the system as a bundle already.

yeah, but would they make more money by selling hte console separate? money is money don't you know. If what bat is saying is true then they should lower the price of the console or unbundle it in order to best deal with the, apparently, elastic demand.

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I have heard of ps4 analog stick problems.

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DO NOT BUY A VITA. There are literally no game for it.

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the vita has no games. It literally has no games. The word is correctly used.

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do you have a friend from back home that will gift it to you. sucky situation you have there.

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Just got the new humble weekly sale... interested to try it out.

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Reck, is it worth 60$ or should I wait?

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I know I'm pretty lat eon this one, but hotline miami is pretty fucking good. It plays like an action puzzle game that has just the right amount of random to make it amazing. Big thanks to TBM for the game.

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from what I have heard stick of truth really is south park.

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Get System Shock 2

Die a lot

Rage

Enjoy a fucking actual tough game where everything works together and despite that you're a rat in a cage and someone's shaking it.

Actually though.

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game is too hard for stupid people like me.

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* *Worth:* $977.44

* *Games owned:* 62

* *Games not played:* 39

* *Percentage:* 63%

* *Hours spent:* 142.2h

Seems a bit off. I was a bit late on the whole virtual game thing for a while... That was back in my idealistic drm of any kind sucks balls days.

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Just got far cry 2, I'm loving the existential overtones. Excellently set up game. The faded/washed out graphics style fits perfectly for the story being told. I love the duel between the two of you, both aspiring to be the stronger. I love how everyone else is nameless, this really adds to the whole strong/weak thing prominent in the work quoted at the beginning of the game (Beyond Good and Evil). I also find it interesting how the buddy system plays with this theme. You want to be a strong lone-wolf, but you still get help from others.

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http://www.playalterego.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alter_Ego_ ... eo_game%29

Great fun life simulator from the 80's. Still holds up though.

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Next time a humble bundle pops up that I like I'll drop the wanted games to ya'll.

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Black Flag is a really good

game

band.

ftfy

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Skyrim was kind of a bust for me. Can't really say why. I just have trouble really feeling that game I guess.

maybe because the game is a reskin of oblivion with a shitty UI? I got skyrim a while back and was disappointed...

I'm going to do some looking... is farcry 3 worth?

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Spore was good in the BEGINNING, but it got really repetitive and boring. For me, designing the creatures and the first 2 stages of evolution were the funnest for me.

I agree with this. For a $10 game it delvers better than shitty "indie" titles if we are being honest with ourselves.

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I read on some arma modding sites that ArmaIII is the way of the future for the franchise and modders have already started the transition. So I'm sorta weary of buying arma II atm.

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Euro Truck Simulator is impossible to play without a wheel controller.

wrong. I enjoyed the game 20+ hours so far with a mouse.

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This whole fake simulation genera has to stop:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/267610/

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oh my god
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments ... ing_money/
it gets better

problem detected: What gameplay is he talking about?

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I will buy this bundle, but I'm not sure if xcom and infinite are worth $20 when I have other games I haven't yet even played... suggestions?

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fine have my $20

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So I beat mafia II. An otherwise great game that seemed like it lacked one or two missions at the end. I think production on this game must have been cut short. Because is the PC going to sit back and lay low after they killed his best friend after he MURDER 100s of people for less? I think not. So one game down several more to go for this bundle... yay.

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So I'm playing Bioshock 1 right now and I think this game is a piece of shit. I hate this game. At first I thought I would like it. More maze like. More oldschool. But no, this game is shit. 1 hour in and I'm done with this game. And here is why:

The fucking vita chambers can suck my dick. Either do checkpoints correctly or not all. Period. end of story. I thought, hay, normal check point system so I don't have to quick save my game, right? "NOPE, AND FUCK YOU" says the game. SO I fight the first big daddy and lose because that is what happens wen you fight a new enemy... and where does it spawn me after death? All the way across the fucking map. But I didn't get pissed off because I found out I was right by the exit to the next level, "sweet, this system works!" but the game retorts, "No, fuck you, go back and kill the big daddy because you need 'adam' otherwise you are going to be underpowered, so go back you stupid fuck." I say, "okay whatever, I have ap bullets, so fine, suck my dick big daddy". So I walk back and find where he was and he was half health like a left him, "cool this vita system works! even though it was badly place it is cool!!!" The game responds, "No fuck you, fight another one. Yeah, I'll replay the same scripted moment for you so go kill it again. Fuck you, I hate you player." So fine, no more AP bullets left, but I've played a shit ton of this type of game so the damage I do doesn't matter, I can dodge it all day and ping away at it with normal bullets. So reincarnated big daddy goes down. Now where is the little sister that I fought this bitch for. "Hahahahahahah" says the game, "You see now I bugged up the game for you so you can't find her. Fuck you. I made you waste all of your ammo, health kits, and magic potions. How do you like dem apples ass hole?" At this point I quit the game. Because any game that tells me to go do something and then bugs out after having me walk halfway through an empty level that responds enemies that I have already killed can give me a blow job while sticking three fingers up my anus while singing hail to the chief all while pissing itself.

So yeah, fuck bioshock. It is a stupid game that is poorly designed and sure as hell never play tested outside of the dev team. SO fuck whoever made this piece of shit. I hate your guts. Maybe I'll play bioshock 2. Maybe they get better as they go along.

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short answer: you're biased because something dumb happened specifically to you, and it's not poorly designed and plenty playtested
as someone who doesn't even like FPSes much this is all still pretty clear to me

Any game that has respawning enemies on normal difficulty that relies on back tracking is not a well thought out game. Any game that tells you to walk through the maze backwards after a checkpoint is not a well thought out game. Any game that respawns enemies after death and keeps the old ones there is not a well thought out game. Any game that tells you will be underpowered unless you walk backwards through a maze you just finished is not a well thought out game. The game is basically an attempt at making DOOM meets System Shock 2 and fails epically.

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uh this doesn't happen

uh it happened to me. I'm probably going to restart the game and play through it again but this time quick save instead of using those stupid check points.

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Also, free keys in the steam IDs thread...

But the reason I'm not getting the bundle is I already have tropico 4 and Truck simulator. Both are very, very good and worth it Chevre. Tropico actually doesn't have too bad of a labor market simulator (if a bit too easy), and truck simulator is the most chill game you will ever play.

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Shit that is a nice humble bundle but I just dished out $20 for the last one and haven't even played half of the games yet (more like 2)... might give a pass.

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i have over 100 unplayed games in my library shut up cooldog
(and at least 80% are games I specifically sought out too)

But I don't want to end up like you :/.

I got Dues Ex from picard in steam IDs. Kane and lynch suck. I have just cause 2 already. The new Dues Ex game is a wash for me. SO the $15 is out already.

The only game in the $8 version I really look forward to is hitman because I have never played one of those. But hit man is in the $1 version. But even then I'm really just getting it for thief which will just sit in my steam for a year until I realize I have it. So yeah, I'll wait for the other games to come out, but as it stands I'm probably going to pass.

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Yeah, but it isn't worth $15 when I still have all the bioshock games to play, Just cause 2 to play, XCOM to finish, and specops the line to enjoy. That's at least 150+ hours of content. I just can't justify spending more when I have that much to play plus what I already had in backlog.

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Okay here is a list of games I want to play in the near future but haven't had time to yet.

Just Cause 2
Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines
Deus Ex
Finish the NEW xcom
Xcom Apocalypse because that was a game that I always saw/heard about but never played.
Bioshock 1 and Infinite (in spite of my rage)
Tropico 4
Divinity 2
Sid Meier's Alpha Centari (again... but I want to play on a harder difficulty)

I know this list is not as big a list as yours but I, like Parama, tend to spend more time than the average play through. I like to explore the game and usually play on a harder than "normal" difficulty level for a first playthrough.

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hmm.... didn't realize they were this short.

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finished specops: the line. 17 hours long... It was like Heart of Darkness the video game. Excellent story. The gameplay could have been a touch refined, but overall 8/10.

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17 hours how the hell did you get 17 hours out of it
I suck at FPSes and I didn't get 10 xD

Sorry, it was 14. Again, I took my time and played on the hardest difficulty for half the game. Then I got annoyed by the bad choice of key bindings so I toned it down. I also got more than half of the intel and listened to all of it (probably added 30 mins to the game).

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also on origin:
Sims 2 complete for free: I-LOVE-THE-SIMS

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So a friend gave me kerbal space program. I see my life slowly drifting away.

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Okay, kerbal space program is one of the best game ever. I'm doing to career mode so I can build my ships progressively and learn all of the parts. Now I'm in the planning stages of my first mood landing.

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@who... I disagree with that being the best first shot. Predicated on the fact that I came into the game having little knowledge of celestial physics and just an interest cultivated in SPACE by an engineer dad who

was

is a space nut.

With that said, I think for a first landing Mun is a better approach for a noob like me. Higher gravity is a good thing as long as your final engine can escape the gravity of the Mun (mine can). This is due to the Pull of "Earth" and the fact that there is not atmosphere on Mun. I can escape the Mun easy, but landing on it is more difficult because it requires more accurate orbital calculations to get there. Higher gravity = more forgiving.

Now, this is all given the fact that the pull of the earth from minmus is further away and thus the relative gravity maybe greater on minmus because of this distance. But for now, I'm happy to try a Mun landing for historical reasons as well as the shit ton of contracts I have for it. Again, Career mode.

ooh KSP finally has career mode working?

there goes my weekend...

Yeah they have "contracts" now that you can complete for money and science. Pretty cool actually.

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Goddamn that is some pretty advanced shit going on. I was happy to land on the Mun today and get back in one piece. I have a pretty good rocket and I think with just a few modifications I can use existing parts and get to minmus pretty easily. Right now I want to go to Mun one more time with a few modifications to the lander and the third stage (the one that sets the intercept and initiates orbit around mun).

After that I'm going to minmus. And then after that docking. That shit is intimidating.

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Multiple engines and maybe four boosters.

My current rocket has 4 engines and 4 boosters for the first stage. second stage is three engines. Third stage is one engine. Last stage is a tiny engine with the lander pod. Seems to work fine. Remember: bigger on the bottom. You want your rocket to get drastically lighter each stage. That's the trick.

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SO I got to Mun and back. I ran out of fuel midway through my re-entry burn... so I had to use RCS fuel via the docking interface. Keep in mind kids: shit goes out, you go forward. And especially true if you are going at low speeds.

Also, the game isn't that hard to learn at first. It gets more challenging later on, but the basics are pretty simple. With that said, if I got this game as a kid I would be pissed off.

My next plan is a Mimmus landing (if who is to be believed it should be pretty easy with just a hand full of modifications to the current build I'm useing). That or docking. Actually, probably docking, because I will need that later.

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Also, why did you have RCS? Why do people use RCS in general?
I've never used RCS for anything other than as the propellant for really light probes and as a propellant with an obscenely high (You can just keep adding more ports, they're all massless) t/w ratio.

1) Stability on launch. Yes engines can direct their thrust, but if you want a nice, smooth trajectory that burns less fuel, then RCS helps out.

2)

orientation for burn. The most important thing period.

It saves so much fuel. If you have to fire your engine and then turn around to burn look at how much fuel you have to waste to turn around AND counteract what you just thrusted. I can not imagine how you can be precise at all without rcs.

3) It weighs very little, so why not.

4) If you run out of fuel you got this!

5) docking.

man you guys are so much further along than I am.

Last time I played I spent a while using one of the included orbit capable ships in sandbox mode just practicing getting to the same orbit over and over again. I've launched stuff to the mun just for fun but have not even thought about landing + returning yet.

It is definitely a steep learning curve. Just remeber, anything you do in orbit will affect the opposite side of the orbit. If you slow down the other side will shrink. If you speed up the other side will grow.

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god damn it. I've wanted KSP forever, and all you guys are just making me want it more.


How much is it currently?

my ksp thread is soon to be populated by my rocket design... when I get around to it.

The game is currently $30, and well worth it in my mind. The game is still in early development and it is this good... when it gets released it will be mind blowing.

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I got it and I'm probably going to dig out my joy stick later tonight.

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yeah it's a little tough with the keyboard but it's okay. the bigger issue is the one with lots of those old games... the resolution is tiny, and if you alt-tab for any reason i can't get my DOSBox to reexpand. That's okay though. Working on the stupid cloaking torpedo exercise that I remember failing about 20 times when I first played the game.

Guess I'm going to be config-file-diving later tonight.

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Bigger rockets. Once you have the mainsail the mun is easy.

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Bigger rockets are better than pretty much anything else imho.

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so far I have done all of this by myself without looking at any builds (you can see my rocket in the ksp thread). It just depends if you want to follow a build or not.

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^crusader kings will steal your soul.

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here are two free tropico 3 codes. First come first serve.

https://www.humblebundle.com/?gift=z4NVb5sxYCFMreHq
https://www.humblebundle.com/?gift=dBn3KGETc5YFUyqG

By the way, it is free through he humble store right now, so don't get them if they are free there. I have to go to work, so this is the only time I could post them.

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F.E.A.R key: https://www.humblebundle.com/gift?key=RaPxFfqYmsGHv7Bb
Starwars empire at war gold pack: https://www.humblebundle.com/gift?key=t7d6ZcGmfr7V2D73

enjoy me cleaning out duplicate games that somehow happened.

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fucking hell.

i dont have as much $$$ as i thought for steam sale, noooo

same. The fact that I found out about a kraftwerk concert means that I drained my spending money for a while...

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ohh, here is an origin key for that shitty medle of honor game:
9CN6-F6WR-2AHM-29QY-DJS9

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you should get europa 4 if you don't already have it. It is like a better civ.

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I found the super old Wolfenstein 3d PC game on sale on steam today for like $1.25. So freaking excited.

from what I remember it uses sub-optimal dosbox settings, make sure you check them... also, don't use the steam doom version alone, get some other loader...

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so I have firefox installed on an ssd, so when I just clicked the steam icon I heard my harddrive spin up. It amused me.

in other news, I found that this game exists: http://store.steampowered.com/app/26051 ... 1_5_9__205

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Mirrors edge origin (urrg) key:
56VV-4RNH-JCNR-S9G4-PFJ5

enjoy you scum bag.

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probably thought he made records.

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I pulled Oblivion out of the closet. Man, that game was great. Modded up it still holds its own.

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Shit I don't want that you can have:

Roller Coaster tycoon deluxe (original game), STEAM: YFELC-GHXNI-MQ6AV
Burnout Paradise Ultimate Box, ORIGIN: 4Y7P-MLXZ-WVLC-GM4H-VH4L