Micro 803: The Coalition

[Mathdino]

well invisibility is fucking town and all that suggests is that N_M isn't scum with the worst

the primary thing pointing to N_M being town is not understanding the coalition mechanics, which seems unlikely given daytalk

granted i'm fairly sure i wouldn't understand the coalition mechanics even if i had daytalk considering i thought the only people who could vote on a coalition were the people in the coalition itself

so in addition to being an unfun setup it's also a confusing one

i'm not going to lynch a V/LA duck after i just got strongarmed into dropping him into a coalition against his will, dude

[Ausuka]

If you're talking to me, which considering the wagon on NM, you probably are... I'm really not convinced any of those are scum?

I am terrible at typing.

Still. My coherency is absolutely horrible today, sorry. This is what I mean to say.

[Wisdom]

im talking to whoever is town

math is weird as fuck
tw is most likely the scum in the coalition
invisibility is just scummy

theres no way this is a town wagon

nm has done nothing outside of his usual town meta for them to scumread

[Wisdom]

i'm not going to lynch a V/LA duck after i just got strongarmed into dropping him into a coalition against his will, dude

i dont even

[Wisdom]

vla is a bs excuse
hes clearly capable of answering

[Wisdom]

ebwop: I meant math is using it as an excuse as if him being vla means we shouldnt pressure or lynch him, not that tw is faking vla

[Ausuka]

I mean NM tunnelling that coalition and then just randomly pinning it on the duck even though he was NM's original TR seems scummy and he's just a better lynch in my eyes than any other viable option.

I guess tw/neenie is possible? But idk. It really does feel like scum pushed the coalition through (and tw didn't vote for it iirc) and are now pinning it in tw when the whole thing was scum motivated from the start. I still hate that the fact that scum just weren't threatened by that Coalition was basically handwaved away.

[Wisdom]

i dont understand this "randomly pinning it on the duck" argument

Again, from his pov, one of the rest of us in the coalition is scum

Hiraki, Mylo and myself are way townier than tw

It's natural to think tw is the reason it failed

[Ausuka]

No it isn't? I don't see why those players are so towny that NM immediately wants to lynch tw.

NM is pretty scummy, just overall by the way he's been doing next to nothing except tunnelling his incorrect coalition and going “Math scum lol“ and then getting townread for it.

I also don't think we should be following the same bloc that decided the coalition. Feels like there's scum in there trying to mislead the town.

[Ausuka]

Although I have to ask @Math; why did you sign up? You clearly dislike the mechanics very strongly.

[Not_Mafia]

I like the set up

[Ausuka]

I don't disagree but Mathdino does.

[the worst]

I keep wanting to yell at wisdom for his defence of NM but his whole stance otherwise feels town

Now taking applications for my Voice of Reason

[Hiraki]

I mean, I thought you gave me that position.

[NeenieKit]

From recent posts, Mylo is town.
I'm sticking to Wisdom as town.
Same with Hiraki, but if everyone else in the coalition had flipped town, I'd go after him over Wisdom. Not sure where Mylo fits into that hierarchy.

For the previously mentioned reasons of the Duck only getting in by chance, and NM's posts being much less useful than in the linked town game, I would rather lynch NM.

Bit I'm not doing that with no recent vote count because I'm by no means ready to hammer.

[NeenieKit]

Though Math making the same point does make me a little uneasy about it.

[Wisdom]

neenie who do you see as scum with nm? everyone seems to be okay with his lynch

[NeenieKit]

Not Math, because the capital from being involved in a successful scum lynch would not carry him far enough to win, even with the way NM has
Not Vizzy because I think he's smart enough to not kill his partner.
Possibly Ausuka, they really didn't interact much. But Ausuak is in on the NM lynch too.

So that leaves me with the Duck as a possible partner. You win, Wisdom.


(Unless it's you and NM, in which case you definitely win.)(ftr, this is a joke)(because people can misunderstand)

[Mathdino]

I've had Hiraki as scum if Not_Mafia isn't for a good while tbh

[Hiraki]

Yeah, I would lynch me if I was wrong about my ability to read someone too.

[Wisdom]

or we can lynch tw and then invisibility and win
math if it isnt invisibility

[the worst]

ok but this is d1 why are we discussing associatives and not lynching the most conspicuously scummy as fuck player and sorting out their partner tomorrow?

anyone who thinks NM treats his partner the way NM has treated my slot is absolutely nuts or needs to read NM in ISO with more critical thinking. we've been scum together before and it was a fucking blast. this ain't it. if I were scum with NM how fucking easily could I have dug in my heals and insisted that one of us were not in the coalition? wonky access and lack of energy for mafia aside, I never to into d1 phase 2 as scum with a 2/5 chance of one of us being lynched.

this entire situation is actually steaming bullshit and uncomfortably I feel like Wisdom should know better than how he's acting

everyone is ok with his lynch???? I only see myself Math and Ausuka here? there is active counterwagoning? what are you even angling at?

[the worst]

I still think you're town you're just playing at like a tenth of your IQ here bro. I'm fighting every urge not to turn this thread into a massive unnecessary TvT shitfight.

[Hiraki]

I don't think N_M is scum here. I was conflicted over you v/s Invisibility, still think that was my problem here.

[NeenieKit]

ok but this is d1 why are we discussing associatives and not lynching the most conspicuously scummy as fuck player and sorting out their partner tomorrow?

anyone who thinks NM treats his partner the way NM has treated my slot is absolutely nuts or needs to read NM in ISO with more critical thinking. we've been scum together before and it was a fucking blast. this ain't it. if I were scum with NM how fucking easily could I have dug in my heals and insisted that one of us were not in the coalition? wonky access and lack of energy for mafia aside, I never to into d1 phase 2 as scum with a 2/5 chance of one of us being lynched.

this entire situation is actually steaming bullshit and uncomfortably I feel like Wisdom should know better than how he's acting

everyone is ok with his lynch???? I only see myself Math and Ausuka here? there is active counterwagoning? what are you even angling at?

Breaking the possibility of you and NM being a team, after I've narrowed it down to you as most likely partner, doesn't really leave me anywhere to go other than crazier places, or NM being town.

Except I still think you would have found some better way than chance to ensure you got into the coalition, so i don't know.

I'm beginning to hate conundrums.

I'll be out and about for the next few hours, after which most people will be napping. So no more input until later. Next morning for some of you, maybe.