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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:45 pm

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^ I like this tbh

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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:47 pm

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Who do you want shot if UD flips Town?
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:47 pm

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^@tw ONLY
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:48 pm

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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:50 pm

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Hint: You can leave it up to my best judgement, provided that it ain't you still.

P-edit: COME ON! I NEVER shoot N_M in any game regardless of my/his alignment. The only time he got shot recently with me in the scum team it was someone else's decision.
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:52 pm

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you should talk thru your maf reads because I strongly prefer a wolf win to a mafia win given this setup's history
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:54 pm

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In post 1449, AP wrote:Lynch UD today. If he flips Mafia then I will shoot tw and tomorrow it's 1-1-6. That is VERY good for the town.
Isn't it 2W:1M:5T tomorrow?
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:58 pm

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In post 1455, the worst wrote:you should talk thru your maf reads because I strongly prefer a wolf win to a mafia win given this setup's history
If I do (combined with this specific arrangement) then I'm playing against my win con.
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:59 pm

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In post 1456, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1449, AP wrote:Lynch UD today. If he flips Mafia then I will shoot tw and tomorrow it's 1-1-6. That is VERY good for the town.
Isn't it 2W:1M:5T tomorrow?
Ohm yeah.. but I'm the lynch anyway so still 14-1-4 the day after
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:59 pm

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GDI! 1-1-4
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:00 pm

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@skitter: The whole idea is giving everybody a fair fighting chance by trying to get to a 1-1-4 situation.
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:01 pm

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I'm kinda too tired to think through all the possible outcomes so I don't have an opinion right now.
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:04 pm

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On a very very very cursory level I think I'm OK with it but I don't want to commit to that till I've had some sleep.

Also I feel like you not wanting to shoot NM is maybe partner indicative but you might just be saying that to make us think that so idk.

Were you thinking I was the seer at daystart?
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:23 pm

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In post 1462, skitter30 wrote:On a very very very cursory level I think I'm OK with it but I don't want to commit to that till I've had some sleep.

Also I feel like you not wanting to shoot NM is maybe partner indicative but you might just be saying that to make us think that so idk.
I honestly do not shoot N_M no matter what. I was the SK in one game and was convinced he was the Vigilante (turned out to be wrong, but whatever) and I let him live to the end.

So, if N_M is my partner I'm not shooting him (duh!) and if he's a Mafioso it's the town's problem, and if he's town then why are we having this discussion?? :P
In post 1462, skitter30 wrote:Were you thinking I was the seer at daystart?
Nope. Never crossed my mind that YOU could be it. It's was either X or Y for me, and it turned out to be D. :lol:
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:21 pm

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catching up now and later doing some ISO digging in some guys

if anyone want to chat with me now I have some time so just say so

let's see how things are around here hmmm...

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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:22 pm

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I'm down,
how's the weather over there Fumuki?
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:23 pm

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as unbelievable as it sounds, it's kind of cold?

I've been sleeping and watching more anime than I like to admit...

how's things over there?
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:25 pm

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it's really cold here too.. ;-; come hang out and watch anime with me
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:29 pm

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okay, am I the only one finding weird how people just assumed at this point that UglyDuck is DEFINITELY scum?

There's some differences and I have only skimmed over Pintu's ISO but.. isn't Sando and Skitter related in a similar to Pintu? (the way that he strongly town read them that is).

Pintu's ISO can go to anywhere with associatives but I don't get why you're all scumreading UglyDuck for X and not scum reading other people for similar reasons. The unique one to get "cleared" by Pintu's ISO in my opinion is Ceejay btw.
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:32 pm

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In post 1467, the worst wrote:it's really cold here too.. ;-; come hang out and watch anime with me
hmmmm...good idea...

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Btw, Do you really watch anime ?
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:35 pm

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I've been out of anime since Puella Magi Madoka Magica since it's objectively the best one but if there's something good I'll check it out. :0
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:51 pm

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In post 1449, AP wrote:OK, here's a serious offer:

Lynch UD today. If he flips Mafia then I will shoot tw and tomorrow it's 1-1-6. That is VERY good for the town.
Lynch UD. If he flips town I shoot someone of tw's choice. That's also fair enough bc if I hit a Mafioso we are 2-1-5 tomorrow, and if I hit a townie that's 2-2-4, but I'm tomorrow's lynch anyway AND the duckling gets to deliver one more result on who is/isn't a WW.

Let's vote on that proposal.

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wow wow wow wow

hold your horses people. This deal is pure deception and illusion.

Think about it a little:

We have already restricted the wolves pool to people that wouldn't pick up Duckling soft claiming Seer. Do you think that there's any chance that werewolves are going to let duckling remove one more person from there?

IT'S SUICIDE. Plus, it would be very sub-optimal even if we hadn't restricted the possible werewolves to that pool.

Not only that, notice something:

There's no benefit in letting TW alive. They only get hurt.

Humans make deals when there's benefits to both parties involved, but AP letting TW alive has no benefit whatsoever because AP is getting lynched in the next day anyway. Even if UglyDuck flips town the optimal play is to shot duckling and remove the possibility of instantly losing due to dual guilty or restricting even more the werewolve's lynchpool. Mafia isn't that much of a priority anymore with the Seer outed and one of them shot down.

What AP wants here is to get rid of both a mafia member and the Seer in one go. He simply wants to get ahead in the best way he still can. No doubts of that.

This deal is utterly bullshit, but if you guys wants to deal with the Werewolves I have a good suggestion. I'm writing it in my next post.

However...well...it's a very
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:52 pm

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In post 1471, Fumuki wrote:Not only that, notice something:

There's no benefit in letting TW alive. They only get hurt.
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:02 pm

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If you like that, you should try being a guilty child impotent treestump some time.

It is *incredibly* liberating.
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:04 pm

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so I've heard. :lol:
that role does sound like fun.
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