Micro 803: The Coalition

ISO · Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:07 pm

Omg I didn't even mean to hammer lol

This works though

Myloninja13 · Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:19 pm

Hm... We'll see if I believe you tomorrow.

ISO · Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:23 pm

I mean if I knew NM was at L-1 I would have seriously considered hammering anyway so

Myloninja13 · Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:29 pm

Oh lol.

If NM flips town here, what're you thinking for tomorrow?

ISO · Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:30 pm

hiraki I guess.

Myloninja13 · Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:31 pm

I think that's where I'm going? Pretty certain on Wisdom being town, and still liking TW.

Wisdom · Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:32 pm

yeah no

we are not letting tw into lylo because you want to chain lynch all townies

Myloninja13 · Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:36 pm

Oh.

What's your suggestion for tomorrow then?

Wisdom · Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:37 pm

tw obviously

Myloninja13 · Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:39 pm

I guess I'd be fine with it if there was a strong case for The Worst!Mafia? Has anyone done a post on why the worst is mafia yet?

Wisdom · Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:39 pm

because everyone else in the coalition is town and it failed
also his posts

Myloninja13 · Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:40 pm

What about his posts indicate the worst mafia?

Wisdom · Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:41 pm

are you kidding me
read the game
ive pointed out his bs on every turn

Myloninja13 · Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:42 pm

I mean, his NM progression was kinda bad.

ISO · Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:49 pm

Have you read why NM became a scumread? The fuck was bad about my progression?

Hiraki · Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:38 am

In post 1142, the worst wrote:Have you read why NM became a scumread? The fuck was bad about my progression?

Let's go back to my Ausuka example -

In post 162, the worst wrote:Can someone weigh in? Hiraki's reads seem kinda reachy but the way Ausuka is responding to them rings bells of arguing I've seen scum!suka do on marathon weekend :I

This also goes back to that asking questions thing. In re-reading, I never felt that you put a statement forward that was based solely on your own opinion. Not terrible but nothing that works. I think when I was going between you and Invisibility I had the following in mind. Invisibility had a lot of stances that were based on his own views while theworst had a lot of stances that just agreed but to an extent I previously thought wouldn't come from scum.

In post 573, the worst wrote:Send
Not_Mafia
NeenieKit
Myloninja13
Invisibility
Ausuka

Elevated to a SR after saying:

In post 395, the worst wrote:I actually think writing Ausuka off as very easy to read is a deathtrap. She says she is but she also refers to herself as bad at mafia, which is not true. My accuracy in reading her is gradually improving but I've been wrong way more often than Ive been right

In post 1066, the worst wrote:off the top of my head, if I've mixed ppl up it's in the vizzy/ausuka/mylo group

Wisdom
NeenieKit

Invisibility
Ausuka
Myloninja13
Mathdino

Hiraki

Not_Mafia

Lean town after some pairings.

In post 1074, the worst wrote:humour me, if you're town explain how you can possibly see that list and go "OH HIS READ ON AUSUKA IS SCUMMY"

Because it's fake and corresponds to how everyone on a whole is doing. You're doing the same with Wisdom too - well tried to. There was an early game moment where you were really gearing up towards Wisdom that didn't look terrible in the current but in hindsight looks pretty ech.

Hiraki · Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:39 am

And feel free to correct me anywhere - I'm ready to be wrong but I've delayed this numerous times just to double check from your posts.

ISO · Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:57 am

Is merging ones own opinions with one's townread's opinions a scumtell? If so I'll end my mafia career today because my reads solo are far more fallible than collective reads.

My experience with Ausuka has me consistently misreading her unless she has played transparently outside of her scum range. Hence why I spoke earlier about how she is not as easy to read ime as she says she is and that she has done stuff here I've seen her do as scum. On the flipside she is generally s player I'll try and sheep trusted reads on because my margin of error is greater than usual.

northsidegal · Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:32 am

Won't be able to verify a hammer / post flips until later. The thread will remain open until then.

Hiraki · Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:04 am

There's nothing wrong with it. I would just expect it to be a little bit more pronounced than a rapid change.

ISO · Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:39 am

Hmmm I think that's a personality thing mostly....

NeenieKit · Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:25 am

I hope NM is scum.
If he's town, I'm split between Hiraki and TW.

Wisdom · Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:26 am

how the hell can you be split
im starting to think youre scum

Wisdom · Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:28 am

how likely is mylo/neenie?
i dont really see neenie with tw

NeenieKit · Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:32 am

I mean I'd rather go after Hiraki, but there's two little voices telling me to go after TW.
One reminds me I used to town read Hiraki, and strongly considered lynching the Duck and it's not really their actions that changed my mind.
The other says I better lynch the Duck because people will say I'm his partner if I protect him.

Summary of what I've said about Mylo. Had trouble noticing him, then settled on him as town around when the coalition was settled. He said something that looked very towny.