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Yes.In post 62, Wisdom wrote:Why do you guys HURT people who arent in your coalition
Is it meant to signify you scumread someone or?
Why aren't you voting then?In post 64, Wisdom wrote:You, math, invisibility town
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HEAL: WisdomIn post 119, Wisdom wrote:you are not hiraki and thus you cannot know what pings him and what doesnt
Correct, within the span of 3 posts on 2 pages, you had 2 people healed and 1 person hurt. You have 3 solid reads by page 2? Really? And you're calling me fake?In post 106, Ausuka wrote:Hiraki's read on me is hilariously fake and he should never be allowed into any townbloc. Consider the fact that
Then to justify it your response is:
If it's gut, and it's page 2, why did you feel the need to vote? You never asked any questions and you just went right for it. That doesn't seem town motivated to me.In post 47, Ausuka wrote:gut
Correct - because you've done NOTHING to dig yourself out of the hole. I'm surprised people aren't actually reading you. At face value, your little sneaks through the game aren't very bad. Keep the above in mind when you say -In post 106, Ausuka wrote:And yet he seems to scumread me so strongly that he has to keep reminding everyone about it;
Which again reiterates that you have no intention of figuring out the game but you're just going to let it slide super hard.In post 84, Ausuka wrote:Considering the content I've given so far scumreading me feels flat-out disingenuous.
I don't really react to things like a Youtuber.In post 106, Ausuka wrote:Hiraki had no reaction.
I think the best point to look at how much snipping Ausuka is doing here to look for specific key text and phrases rather than actively questioning is here:
Note that the original quote was -
Yet Ausuka went right onto the point that might have insinuated her a little as scum. She doesn't even bring up the point that Wisdom is TRing her.
In post 117, NeenieKit wrote:I wouldn't call anyone town for certain, but I don't see why Hiraki thinks Asuka is mafia.Yuck.
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I'm pretty sure not having the right mindset is how it works.In post 124, Wisdom wrote:
You're both put off by the other not doing what you expect them toIn post 122, Hiraki wrote:Then why hasn't she asked me why I'm scumreading her?
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Gonna try something new in a few games. Everytime I write long posts, I'm gonna bold what I think are the most important points for other people to read. Boldnotes, if you will.
Gut reads. On page 2. Mmmk.In post 127, Ausuka wrote:... what? I voted because it's a way to indicate reads. There is no purpose whatsoever to not voting. It's a good practice in general.
Pretty disingenuous and completely misses the point. I'd hope that maybe your town meta is better than this.In post 127, Ausuka wrote:What am I supposed to ask? "Hey Invisibility, why do you ping me? I expect an 100 word essay and I want it by Thursday." or something?
You should try and figure out why your reads are doing something abnormal from town behavior.
This is a two parter:In post 127, Ausuka wrote:I have no intention of figuring out the game because I don't think someone scumreading me just because I had 3 reads on page 2 is realistic??? I obviously do have intentions of figuring out the game. I have reads, I've shared them, and I've got a 5-player bloc that I think solves the game. In comparison, you've only healed the popular townreads and tunneled on me.
On page 6? That gut must be pretty strong.In post 127, Ausuka wrote:I have no intention of figuring out the game because I don't think someone scumreading me just because I had 3 reads on page 2 is realistic??? I obviously do have intentions of figuring out the game. I have reads, I've shared them, and I've got a 5-player bloc that I think solves the game.
Should I not be healing townreads? What's the difference if they're popular? This is a paradox in itself. Ausuka is backhandedly saying that I'm just sheeping people and then also reminds everyone that I'm tunneling on someone who is a "popular townread". This is probably one of the worst backhands I've seen.In post 127, Ausuka wrote:In comparison, you've only healed the popular townreads and tunneled on me.
Actually, it quite clearly was. I don't react to things unless they require reaction your post:In post 127, Ausuka wrote:That's not the point I was making and you know it.
I didn't include the MathDino quote because I didn't really care to edit. Ausuka wanted me to talk about something that I didn't talk about. I don't even get what this means except that I didn't react to it.In post 106, Ausuka wrote:Clearly, the fact that I scumread Invisibility didn't mean anything to him (even though that's pretty much the only thing in those posts that can be read into) considering that when Mathdino did this;
Hiraki had no reaction.
Why should I have commented on MathDino's SR? It's pretty clear he's not in the game right now.
In post 127, Ausuka wrote:after you literally just snipped my post to respond to something completely out of context.Yeah, for the same reason, because I didn't want to deal with the quotes. The same intention is still there and the fact that you are actually calling me out on misrepping a post when I clearly addressed the point is super scummy.
Never said this. Here's what I said - which you quoted but either didn't read or are just trying to misrep:In post 127, Ausuka wrote:Also snipping quotes to respond to the bits you want to respond to is absolutely not a scumtell and I don't think town!hikari thinks it is? Like, I can give links if you want but I don't know why I need to.
Which refers to something you just brought up next in the post where you're going for zingers rather than comprehensive reads.In post 120, Hiraki wrote:I think the best point to look at how much snipping Ausuka is doing here to look for specific key text and phrases rather than actively questioning is here:
Yeah, but I don't think you read that far. The above kind of proves that.In post 127, Ausuka wrote:HE LITERALLY SAID I WAS PROBABLY TOWN. And I'm worried about him insinuating me as scum? What? He literally just said he was disagreeing with my reads but I was town. If I'm scum that's just as good to me as agreeing with me and calling me town.
In post 127, Ausuka wrote:Why should I ask you for reasoning? If there's reasoning you want to give, just share it; otherwise I'll just assume there's nothing you want to say about it, otherwise you would've just, you know, given your reasoning?Right - we're still on 4 people townbloc all on gut.
Except if it's not yours. Won't fail if you just follow me.In post 134, Mathdino wrote:Can't really blame the coalition- Hiraki
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I thought about this a little more. I'm not a fan. Too much risk.In post 136, Mathdino wrote:As in we should agree on who's the most lynchable within the coalition if and when things go wrong
If we have 3 or 4 definite townreads, one should be difficult to read and likely to win as scum- Hiraki
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1) That person had 6 posts in one page.In post 152, Ausuka wrote:Are you saying I'm not supposed to have gut reads on page 2? because that makes, like, no sense. I can even link a game where I had a gutread on page 2 off the top of my head. Here.
2) As stated earlier, the problem is not that you had gut reads. It's that you had 3 gutreads that you were willing to vote for on Page 2. Saying you have reads and voting them are two very different things.
3) Wisdom only posted twice in that period. Is that really enough to vote for?
In post 152, Ausuka wrote:The point was, as I said in that very post, that the thing you objected to about me couldn't have been the invisibility SR because Mathdino did it and you did nothing. That was accurate.In post 143, Hiraki wrote:Why should I have commented on MathDino's SR? It's pretty clear he's not in the game right now.
MhmmIn post 152, Ausuka wrote:Again, the bit about his read on me had NO relevance to that WHATSOEVER and there is NO reason for me to quote it and/or respond to it.
Correct. You had to manually edit that out of the post or just highlight part of the post. Why?In post 152, Ausuka wrote:And you're saying it's scummy for me to not respond to Wisdom saying "she's probably town."
Then when it doesn't pass, you'll be interested in lynching within you, Math, mylo, wisdom, and TW, no?In post 152, Ausuka wrote:No, there's just been no reason for me to push my townreads, because atm nobody is really scumreading in {Math, mylo, wisdom, tw} as far as I'm aware. I gave my reasons above anyway though.
I don't really take advice but I'll keep that in mind.In post 182, the worst wrote:Taking Wisdom's word on you a tiny bit--the original case did feel reachy, but honestly I don't see town benefiting from doing what you're doing this game.
@Mod: Does Mafia have daytalk?
Can you unvote yourself for now though? That's what Math was talking about earlier about unvoting themselves. This way your last vote is yourself for your coalition.In post 237, NeenieKit wrote:And since I know my own alignment, I am logically the best kitten to put in the block. Anyone else I won't 100% certain on.
HEAL: NeenieKit
Yeah, I was trying to get a read on him earlier but I got nothing. I'm still at nothingwhere.In post 247, Wisdom wrote:Because i dont remember hiraki shading invisibility
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In post 272, NeenieKit wrote:I sort of like that last post of Hiraki's. But it could still have come from Hiraki as scum.- Hiraki
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so far every suggestion you've had toward changing the idea of coalition has been shot down and even made people (not me) look at you weirdlyIn post 330, Mathdino wrote:WIFOMing me into being scum is super questionable considering the amount of theoretical control I could have over a setup like this- Hiraki
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Blatant misrep to the actual situationIn post 380, Mathdino wrote:TW, Hiraki was one of the people in my game who refused to lynch Kiana Kaslanas vigclaim lol
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So let's be clear here -
1) You misrepped me just to make a point that I've been wrong but not actually because I never said anything that you said, I just didn't vote because of the circumstances of that game.
2) You've actively criticized people for reading Ausuka without knowing anything while also simultaneously saying that you think, from what you've heard, that she is easy to read.
3) You are confused that people are having trouble reading Ausuka which leads us to:
You have no read on Ausuka.
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You just said you misrepped me for fun and lied about me - for fun. What part shouldn't I take personally? The part where you tried to attack my integrity by lying or the part where you hide behind the fact that you're calling it meta?In post 411, Mathdino wrote:
Don't see how this is at all personalIn post 410, Hiraki wrote:
Won't replace into your games anymore then.In post 407, Mathdino wrote:You could say that yeah
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