Labyrinth Mafia (Endgame)

[Vartsun]

I am first

I AM ROLLED THE WEIRDEST ROLE EVER. THIS GAME IS A DOOMED.

Crumbing negative utility's gives me townvibes... mostly because I've done it as town.

The Worst Nancy Drew 39 Scioness Sajj

s

. Vartsun, TehBrawlGuy, Reality Check

ed

Shoshin. NicoRobin Riku, TPFKAP

or just

Princess of Renais Creature, WhemeStar

s

ArcAngel9

's

Joral.

First post- no RVS vote, no questions, fluff.

Eww.

I wish the goblins would come and take you away right now.

I wish the playerlist had more than 5 serious posters right now.

I don’t get it

VOTE: joral

And you follow this wagon because?

hi

who's the biggest wagon?

And how is this relevant to your reads?

So far, it looks like Joral, Reality Check, and the worst are tied at 2 each. Shoshin's got 1, and everyone else is clear for now.

Hey wait... how'd I get there...

And by "for now", do you mean people you plan to vote?

Was this a serious post? It doesn't really have substances beyond stating what people could figure out by reading the first page.

I don't think signing should be strictly necessary most of the time, both of us have very different speaking styles.

Buuuuuut if I make a longer post or use more 'formal' language or similar, I'll sign.

Has any member of your hydra ever played with

Taly

or

Varsoon

?

I'm not sure.

>

fluffpost

>

page 2 and still has RVS vote up on

Joral

>

45 states something is scummy but doesn't provide a reason or switch vote, disingenuous

I'm in a neeeiiiiighhhhborhood

What town motivation comes from this?

Vote: Arcangel9

Easy unexplained vote.

Wow.

I mean, I know the whole "Why me fry me" thing, and that can explain TehBrawlGuy's comment about tone perhaps? "Tone is off" could mean a lot of things, so it'd be nice if you coule elaborate just a bit on that one please?

On the other hand, WhemeStar is being very cavalier about tossing around death, even implying that he can't be bothered to look at the top of this page to verify my name before just dismissing it as given and on to the next to go. It's as if he has added knowledge of who is on the opposite side from him.

If he does succeed in this and when I'm shown town, remember you're following him like sheep to the slaughter.

VOTE: WhemeStar or "whatever his name is".

58 I honestly don't see

Wheme

as serious so far like multiple other players

Is this a vote based on a scumread?

Did we leave the boring phase?

I don't know. Form a read and contribute so we can find out.

this doesn't sound like town creature yet.
ok lemme do some critcialt thniknig!!!

Meh... it's too early to pick out

Creature

at the moment, but I don't see the stream of consciousness with his reads-thing yet...

i asked you about wheme

I'm still collecting my thoughts on that. Maybe it was a calculated push to see some reaction. If so, it worked. He's a bit aggravating and overzealous, with what seemed like trying to arrange a day 2 train assuming the one on me would carry through. The whole "follow me like sheep to win" ploy feels a bit scummy (maybe not vote-level) because it's asking people to not think, which ultimately I consider anti-town. (That's my read on "sheep me", unless he's asking us to shear him … ) I am suspicious, but the weight to vote isn't there yet.

At this point, I want to see some more interactions before I start assigning votes again. We're still early in the day, and I have jumped around enough.

And to be sure this is clear from the vote none before, UNVOTE: . I wasn't aware of this tag before.

Ehhh....

Wheme

is anti-town to you, but you unvote??

Also, do you have any other person that warrants a vote?

Hi

What is labryinth

I wish the goblins would come and take you away right now.

Town.

VOTE: Shoshin

bruuuuuuh
im so stoned rn

Town?

hi
who's the biggest wagon?

Scum?

VOTE: the worst

VOTE: Reality Check

Scum.

From page 1?

i red the gam

2 much work

shitpost elsewhere bby <3

also why the fuck has nobody answered that yet

and to what question is this again? I missed it through the skimming

~

VOTE: Tgkfap

serious vote.

[Vartsun]

wait fuck

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

RC BBY! <3

I'LL PROVE TO YOU THAT I DON'T FLAKE ANYMORE.

BFFS OR AFK

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Still sorting

Joral

, who the only person who has an actual reason for their vote so far is

TehBrawlGuy

, but that was 3-4 pages ago, so I don't have a high opinion on the wagon.

Reality Check

is someone else I'm sorting, I want to gauge their thought process. One vote on them is RVS, and the other is ineffective because I forgot it even existed until I reread the thread.

What's the reason for your

Shoshin

vote again?

tgkfap

has done things that have pinged me as potential scum.

In post 47, TPFKAP wrote:
I'm not sure.


>fluffpost
>page 2 and still has RVS vote up on Joral
>45 states something is scummy but doesn't provide a reason or switch vote, disingenuous

In post 59, TPFKAP wrote:
I'm in a neeeiiiiighhhhborhood

What town motivation comes from this?

How do you feel about

tgkfap

?

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Most of

Shoshin's

ISO is nothing but random votes that I overlooked I mean, they're asking questions and placing votes to emphasize their weight. So they're null to ME at the moment.

I'd like more people to reply before I evaluate wagons in depth though

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Sorry guys

Due to recent IRL events, I have been in a shitty, shitty mood for the past 48 hours, and I can't think of mafia right now.

I'm going on a daytrip and I'll post tonight most likely.

I also have no clue where

Varsoon

is ... X_X

Through skimming the thread, I'm unimpressed with

Creature

and

Renais

;

Joral

is currently my strongest townread.

Also

tgkfap

didn't really respond to me, so their readslist better be fucking good.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

ITS FUCKING TALY POSTING

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Yeah, I'm not near frustrated enough to go full caps, tbh.

But if you're going to take a shit on me pushing you and write off my posts, answer 2 things:

1)

What is so off about my vote and reason for pushing you, to where you don't see it valid to respond to?

2)

Even if this WAS

Varsoon

, why does that change how you'd respond to it?

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Hey Taly, where you at? I want to know where your head is roughly.

> tgkfap

looks like an even tastier wagon.

(Weak scumread, but strongest so far)

>

Worried that

Creature

has not displayed what I know of his town-meta.

> Wheme

is antitown, or at least appears that way in light of pushing things without stating too much of why.

(???)

>

Didn't and still don't like

Joral's

wagon and I think he's the most forthcoming person in the game; well-reasoned thoughts, does not hold back on his thinking, and with this combined that I'm voting someone that has their vote on him - unless I missed something - I'm really happy with saying this is town.

(Strong Town)

> Renai

is openly useless.

(Null, leanscum)

>

Who are

riku

and

shoshin

again?

>

Going to take a bit before I settle on

the worst

, but I get townvibes there because of their train-of-consciousness posts that have interest in progressing the game in favor of gamesolving.

(Town)

These are the biggest things coming to mind at the moment for thoughts.

You feel genuine.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Hey Taly, where you at? I want to know where your head is roughly.

> tgkfap

looks like an even tastier wagon.

(Weak scumread, but strongest so far)

>

Worried that

Creature

has not displayed what I know of his town-meta.

> Wheme

is antitown, or at least appears that way in light of pushing things without stating too much of why.

(???)

>

Didn't and still don't like

Joral's

wagon and I think he's the most forthcoming person in the game; well-reasoned thoughts, does not hold back on his thinking, and with this combined that I'm voting someone that has their vote on him - unless I missed something - I'm really happy with saying this is town.

(Strong Town)

> Renai

is openly useless.

(Null, leanscum)

>

Who are

riku

and

shoshin

again?

>

Going to take a bit before I settle on

the worst

, but I get townvibes there because of their train-of-consciousness posts that have interest in progressing the game in favor of gamesolving.

(Town)

These are the biggest things coming to mind at the moment for thoughts.

You feel genuine.

~ Taly

I agree on Joral and TGK. Disagree on the worst and Wheme.

What do you think of Sajj?

What's non-towny about

the worst

to you, and how do you view

Wheme

?

Major thoughts on

Sajj

>

Genuine stream of consciousness

>

Asking good questions... one of the few people asking questions consistently.

>

Has not stagnated their vote much at all, which I think comes more likely from town early-game that are focused on gamesolving without any specific confidence or strength in a read.

They lean town to me.

Look I don't have a lot of time or energy so I'm going to pick a middle-aged page and give reads based on that

Fluff

I don't know what happened to my post that I wrote OVER an HOUR ago but SHO is scummy and Princess is scummy on page 9. everyone oelse on that page is likely town.

>

Seems a little faked readslist. You state your post is gone but you wrote it an HOUR ago?

>

You didn't do this 'actually grand readslist', you just stated random and somewhat-relevant thoughts about page 9.

>

There were 6 other people on page 9.

{TehBrawlGuy, Creature, Princess of Renais, Joral, the worst, Reality Check}

- and you townread ALL of them, because?

Just based on a very brief skimming, I think the worst, SS, Creature are town. So far not overly impressed with Princess, Angel, Wheme.


I’ll try to read it more in depth and do some ISOs when I get the chance.

I’m also liking Jorai and Vartsun (even if he forgot I was in the game XD).

Still not liking Prncess and Angel.

Does Princess post anything other than illegible fuff?

Angel.just seems super aggressive in a weird way.

Sorry, I will try to be more active

NicoRobin, What?

I've seen aggressiveness come from both alignments, what about them is off?

Does Princess post anything other than illegible fuff?

ye
Ilegibl 2 reds

VOTE: Princess of Renais
VOTE: TGKFAP
VOTE: Princess of Renais
VOTE: TGKFAP
VOTE: Princess of Renais
VOTE: TGKFAP
VOTE: Princess of Renais
VOTE: TGKFAP
VOTE: Princess of Renais
VOTE: TGKFAP

:/ It's getting hard to choose at the moment. I'm completely happy with the

Renais

wagon given their... shitposting even for shitposting.

If people see validity in the

tgkfap

wagon - or see them as potential scum, where's their vote?

I feel a little brushed to the side...

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Better question

Who sees town within

{tgkfap, Renais, Creature}

?

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Better question

Who sees town within

{tgkfap, Renais, Creature}

?

~ Taly

Add

Nico

to this group.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

VOTE: TGKFAP just so the mod is aware.

Yeah.

This is getting close to a death tunnel.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

nico 1% higher because I think she fakes it a little more as scum

Can't go off that too much yet. :/ *shrugs*

Better question

Who sees town within

{tgkfap, Renais, Creature}

?

~ Taly

i don't really get scum vibes from Renais. besides the excessive flavor and fluff they seem more engaged in the game than half of the players.

creature and tgkfap are meh

i assume nico and riku will be replaced if they keep up their pace

I mean, I think

Renais'

fluffposting is a great excuse to be engaged without doing anything, therefore, being filler and downplaying themselves.

Have you played at least 2 games with

Creature

?

And you have no opinion of

tgkfap

?

VOTE: Sajj

...I can't follow your thought process too well with some of these votes.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

I'm going to pretend the last half page of posts don't exist so I won't deeply question and criticize the mafia ability of some players in this game.

tgkfap

is borderline scumclaiming with how poor their posts have been, and LITERALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS

VARSOON

WHEN I'VE DONE ALL THE POSTING.

Also how the fuck would I be defending

Shoshin

? Love the dichotomies you're making though, if for god knows what reason that you're town - scum must love that you don't have a moving wagon on you. I'm much more forward and direct with my stances, boo.

Really doubting that this is

Creature's

towngame. His only gamesolving-centered post so far has been 334 and it literally comes to no conclusion at all.

Shoshin

, why is

Sajj

scum to you, again? And if you think

the worst

is scum off of townreading

Sajj

, then why are you dropping your attention off of her in pursuit of him? 350

I already said I thought

Sajj

was lean-town 312 - is that scum-indicative to you?

Oh look,

Renais

finally made commentary. 338, why is

Creature and tgkfap

town to you?

Pushing

the worst

is the worst thing you could possibly do right now because he's near locktown solely due to his sensibility being higher than most of the playerlist's right now.

And no, I didn't recognize the pun until after I typed the sentence LOL

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

THIS.
IS.

TALY.

POSTING.

And yeah, I'm losing care for my hydra slips because I haven't heard from

Varsoon

about the game in 5 days, and it's pending on whether or not I'm doing this solo.

I mean, this is my last "slip" before the hypothetical reality I replace IN on my main

(which is Taly)

But I'm proving a point on how fruitless

tgkfap's

mentality and response to me is, and I'm about to drop my push because nobody seems to give a fuck and I'm wasting my time on 1 person.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

is Harpoon's internet still bad"

Yeah :/

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

At what point have I made reads and thought OR even gave the impression that:

"Yay! I'm just going to slap a read on this person because they're TRYING."

If people read my posts consistently, I'm not just basing my thoughts off surface level shit that has no relevance; I genuinely do perceive my scumreads by coming from a scum mentality and that's not SPECIFICALLY rooted in their level of effort or amount they're posting.

And honestly, even if it weren't - that's more of a reason than what quite a few people are giving, but nobody talks about that.

This

the worst

wagon is atrocious and I'll respond in a more tactful and factually based manner when I'm not going to potentially fill the thread with rage caps AND ALSO IF people want to actually engage with my reads.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

In the meantime, before I ISO people and OUTLINE everything, I suggest you ISO me

reality

and ASK on why my reads seem so uncredible this game.

worst

Why does your tone feel really really off this game?

BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T THINKING.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

....

[Vartsun]

Taly

I don't scumread you, I actually townread you

I want you on a page where I feel like I can WORK with you, but I don't think that's viable right now since... well, that's the impression I've been getting from your reads.

If that's not actually true, then fine, I'll stop engaging until I directly see it and try again afterwards.

If you TRULY townread me, please do the following.

No-engagement is the EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT I WANT TO HAPPEN.

1)

Reread my ISO.

2)

Ask questions.

3)

Don't assume that my reasons are superficial if you're not going to dig into the reasons behind my push my and thought process.

4)

Tell me why and how you disagree with my townread on

the worst

and how you disagree with my assessment of

Wheme

?

5)

Do not "stop" trying to engage with me; try to understand me.

Shoshin, why is Sajj scum to you, again? And if you think the worst is scum off of townreading Sajj, then why are you dropping your attention off of her in pursuit of him?

Sajj hasn't taken any sort of meaningful position about anyone. Look at 317, for example. Or look at how quickly her push on me evaporated - she had a tone of conviction when pushing but in reality there wasn't anything to it.

I'm voting the worst because he's making it more difficult for me to read him and Sajj by refusing to answer my question, plus his "badtown" read on Reality doesn't make any sense.

Why is "this is badtown" indicative of a scum mentality?

There's plenty of people I can say are "badtown" in this game right now! Alignment and play quality are NOT the same.

I'm also still waiting to hear why Sajj is town.

I'm also still waiting to hear why

the worst

is scum.

Because I think the votes on him make 0 sense, and he's BEING TRUTHFUL.

I WILL elaborate in FULL detail when I have time, most likely tomorrow, on my READS over the playerlist and WHY I think them.

But I'm speechless if people actually think

the worst

is scum and I've shown little to no basis behind my reads...

....

this wasn't signed
is that u Varsoon

No, it's still

Taly

:/

I just got to the point to where I didn't even think about signing.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

So..... Don't have townreads because they could be scum and don't have scumreaes because they could be town

Fuck it let's just random lynch ^~^

VOTE: the worst

What was the purpose of your 370??

because it doesn't feel town motivated shooting down the only person who seems to be putting in the effort to vocalise strong reads for discussion!

if you disagree with some of his reads vocalise it? like sitting back spewing armchair mafia logic is not gonna help us advance the game state even remotely. it encourages regression before progress.

Anka there is no world where you know me well enough to correctly toneread me as scum. This is my disappointed irritated tone!!

your responses to Taly include nothing but armchair scumhunting logic and a clear lack of actually reading his posts critically.

Please explain specifically where you disagree with him

can you please explain where you strongly disagree with Taly's comments or where you think he's coming from a blatantly incorrect place? I don't think you're actually reading most of what he's saying.

pedit: giving a fuck about the game as best I can!! save the last ~48 hrs when I've been busy as shit irl and access has been wonky

VOTE: Reality Check

[Vartsun]

Fine... do that... I've already said my peace and clearly, like with multiple other things I've said in this game, it seems to just have no effect on anything.

but I'm hard-townreading

the worst

at this point and my stances have strengthened.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

And no,

reality

, I'm not singling you out at all

I'm literally talking to the playerlist and the gamestate.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

I'm gonna think about whether or not I'm being stupid seeing scum motivation. Anka is friggin awesome as a person and I don't want to misrep her

Taly be my logic buddy when I'm calmer?

Be my logic buddy too because I've gotten a bit more heated than I'd like.

I really do like

Ank

though... it's just, of course... I can be very passionate and that's sometimes misinterpreted.

I'll get to you later or sometime tomorrow

Shoshin

, I'm a bit mentally tired - and I start my summer semester tomorrow..

Even though I have 1 class and its a SUMMER semester; I have a KINK for being prepared and in a clear mindset.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Any person that has played more than 2 games with

Creature

should have a strong understanding of how to read him.

His posts have no substance. His posts are open-ended. He's made no conclusions. He's not as engaged with more than a handful of people. He's fluffposting.

He's playing to his scum meta. I'd argue that it's best for his lynch EoD1, and we need to figure out the game more.

I refuse to entertain the

Wheme

wagon at all with his current vote.

why not play with the people who are playing and just lynch Creature EOD if he's still being scum!Creature?

may as well find 2 scum since we've got one already

Pretty sure my vote's on another scum, but you know...

I'm going to reread a few people because I want to throw up at some posts made in this game.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Help me strike people out of this list, I'll start:

The Worst

Nancy Drew 39
Scioness Sajj
Vartsun (Varsoon/Taly)
TehBrawlGuy
Reality Check (Ank/Mastina)
Shoshin
NicoRobin
Riku
TPFKAP
Princess of Renais

Creature

WhemeStar
ArcAngel9
Joral

On skimming back, this strengthens my thoughts on

the worst

being town, btw.

If

Creature's

town, he'd have far more people crossed out, or would be putting an effort into figuring them out - so his

the worst

read would be genuine.
If

Creature's

scum, then why would he only strike off ONE person out of the playerlist? If it were a buddy, it'd be a very blatant associative; but I don't think that's really true because it puts attention to his scumteam, and because he's not striking off any other townies or buddies;

the worst

is obvtown to me, and I think the lack of clarity in this post serves as WIFOM post-flip.

The singular read is disingenuous.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Creature

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Down to policy lynch any of the players who don't really want to be useful, TPFKAP/Renais/Nico all fit into this category. I think the fact that the thread hasn't come down on this shit way harder is indicative of at least one Scum in that group because they're all easy mislynch bait/vote park targets if they're town. I am aware of the irony in saying that while pushing them and vote-parking Renais, but the fact that there aren't more people on those three feels weird to me.

Have you even read my posts?

VOTE: Tgkfap

serious vote.

tgkfap

has done things that have pinged me as potential scum.

In post 47, TPFKAP wrote:
I'm not sure.


>fluffpost
>page 2 and still has RVS vote up on Joral
>45 states something is scummy but doesn't provide a reason or switch vote, disingenuous

In post 59, TPFKAP wrote:
I'm in a neeeiiiiighhhhborhood

What town motivation comes from this?

How do you feel about

tgkfap

?

~ Taly

Through skimming the thread, I'm unimpressed with

Creature

and

Renais

;

Joral

is currently my strongest townread.

Also

tgkfap

didn't really respond to me, so their readslist better be fucking good.

~ Taly

Yeah, I'm not near frustrated enough to go full caps, tbh.

But if you're going to take a shit on me pushing you and write off my posts, answer 2 things:

1)

What is so off about my vote and reason for pushing you, to where you don't see it valid to respond to?

2)

Even if this WAS

Varsoon

, why does that change how you'd respond to it?

~ Taly

Hey Taly, where you at? I want to know where your head is roughly.

> tgkfap

looks like an even tastier wagon.

(Weak scumread, but strongest so far)

>

Worried that

Creature

has not displayed what I know of his town-meta.

> Wheme

is antitown, or at least appears that way in light of pushing things without stating too much of why.

(???)

>

Didn't and still don't like

Joral's

wagon and I think he's the most forthcoming person in the game; well-reasoned thoughts, does not hold back on his thinking, and with this combined that I'm voting someone that has their vote on him - unless I missed something - I'm really happy with saying this is town.

(Strong Town)

> Renai

is openly useless.

(Null, leanscum)

>

Who are

riku

and

shoshin

again?

>

Going to take a bit before I settle on

the worst

, but I get townvibes there because of their train-of-consciousness posts that have interest in progressing the game in favor of gamesolving.

(Town)

These are the biggest things coming to mind at the moment for thoughts.

You feel genuine.

~ Taly

Look I don't have a lot of time or energy so I'm going to pick a middle-aged page and give reads based on that

Fluff

I don't know what happened to my post that I wrote OVER an HOUR ago but SHO is scummy and Princess is scummy on page 9. everyone oelse on that page is likely town.

>

Seems a little faked readslist. You state your post is gone but you wrote it an HOUR ago?

>

You didn't do this 'actually grand readslist', you just stated random and somewhat-relevant thoughts about page 9.

>

There were 6 other people on page 9.

{TehBrawlGuy, Creature, Princess of Renais, Joral, the worst, Reality Check}

- and you townread ALL of them, because?

Does Princess post anything other than illegible fuff?

ye
Ilegibl 2 reds

VOTE: Princess of Renais
VOTE: TGKFAP
VOTE: Princess of Renais
VOTE: TGKFAP
VOTE: Princess of Renais
VOTE: TGKFAP
VOTE: Princess of Renais
VOTE: TGKFAP
VOTE: Princess of Renais
VOTE: TGKFAP

:/ It's getting hard to choose at the moment. I'm completely happy with the

Renais

wagon given their... shitposting even for shitposting.

If people see validity in the

tgkfap

wagon - or see them as potential scum, where's their vote?

I feel a little brushed to the side...

~ Taly

Better question

Who sees town within

{tgkfap, Renais, Creature}

?

~ Taly

Better question

Who sees town within

{tgkfap, Renais, Creature}

?

~ Taly

Add

Nico

to this group.

~ Taly

VOTE: TGKFAP just so the mod is aware.

Yeah.

This is getting close to a death tunnel.

~ Taly

nico 1% higher because I think she fakes it a little more as scum

Can't go off that too much yet. :/ *shrugs*

Better question

Who sees town within

{tgkfap, Renais, Creature}

?

~ Taly

i don't really get scum vibes from Renais. besides the excessive flavor and fluff they seem more engaged in the game than half of the players.

creature and tgkfap are meh

i assume nico and riku will be replaced if they keep up their pace

I mean, I think

Renais'

fluffposting is a great excuse to be engaged without doing anything, therefore, being filler and downplaying themselves.

Have you played at least 2 games with

Creature

?

And you have no opinion of

tgkfap

?

VOTE: Sajj

...I can't follow your thought process too well with some of these votes.

~ Taly

I'm going to pretend the last half page of posts don't exist so I won't deeply question and criticize the mafia ability of some players in this game.

tgkfap

is borderline scumclaiming with how poor their posts have been, and LITERALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS

VARSOON

WHEN I'VE DONE ALL THE POSTING.

Really doubting that this is

Creature's

towngame. His only gamesolving-centered post so far has been 334 and it literally comes to no conclusion at all.

Oh look,

Renais

finally made commentary. 338, why is

Creature and tgkfap

town to you?

~ Taly

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Game's inactive, I get the blame.

Got it

You think a game that's been going on for less than a week and has 21 pages is inactive?

Funny.

But it's great to know that you'd rather paint yourself as "being prosecuted wrongly" alongside that "why me" undertones in your post - than ACTUALLY addressing the points onto you.

Help me strike people out of this list, I'll start:

The Worst

Nancy Drew 39
Scioness Sajj
Vartsun (Varsoon/Taly)
TehBrawlGuy
Reality Check (Ank/Mastina)
Shoshin
NicoRobin
Riku
TPFKAP
Princess of Renais

Creature

WhemeStar
ArcAngel9
Joral

On skimming back, this strengthens my thoughts on

the worst

being town, btw.

If

Creature's

town, he'd have far more people crossed out, or would be putting an effort into figuring them out - so his

the worst

read would be genuine.
If

Creature's

scum, then why would he only strike off ONE person out of the playerlist? If it were a buddy, it'd be a very blatant associative; but I don't think that's really true because it puts attention to his scumteam, and because he's not striking off any other townies or buddies;

the worst

is obvtown to me, and I think the lack of clarity in this post serves as WIFOM post-flip.

The singular read is disingenuous.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Creature

~ Taly

Wanted to strike out more players, but then I got stuck into this "should I trust or should I not?"

So.... with 500 something posts, you only have 1 read; and managed to WIFOM essentially everyone in the playerlist.

OK.

~~~

I'll explain how this is

Creature's

scum-meta tomorrow, it's late for me.

But honestly,

Creature

is scum based off of in-game play alone at this point.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

but the fact that there aren't more people on those three feels weird to me.

oh wait, misread this.

Thought you meant NOBODY was on either of those people... because it feels exactly like that, alongside myself and your vote.

What's your take on

Creature

?

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

What's your take on nd39 Taly?

Mmmm... Town lean post-ISO skim.

They are consistently voicing their stances, opinions, and thoughts. 241, 308

They've engaged 1 on 1 with several people right now, some with questions.

I don't agree with them townreading my strongest scumreads,

{Tgkfap, Creature}

; but I don't find scum motivation behind that?

471 is towny to me because she's voicing a new opinion with her own reasoning, it strikes me as genuine.

However, they haven't voted yet, and I don't know where their heads at for scum.

What do you think of them?

ND39

, could you explain your

tgkfap

read? You haven't used your vote at all in the game, do you have any read worthy of pushing?

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

[Vartsun]

ill gamesolve and get back to you

tbg

when im not about to go to sleep <3

~taly

[Vartsun]

[Vartsun]

yeah you're adding nothing but noise to this conversation pls stop with that

it's transparently a shitpost

WOW I haven't been shouted down like this in a while.

VOTE: the worst

LMAO, what do you think about my posts then?

Do you ignore and devalue them becuase I'm correct that you're scum who's being survivalistic, OR, you're scum and you want to WIFOM me for later?

u have no POWER OVER ME

The worst gets it.

I will be there for you

bruuuuuuh

im so stoned rn

watch labyrinth
???
profit

your brother is the love of my life btw

Do you do hydra sign offs btw?

thank you <3
nice to play with you again
both of you actually

VOTE: the worst
hello? do i know you?

LOL sorry
great to see you too sajj <3

I was laughing at myself, my own stupidity >;

yeah ok the future father of my ducklings has his issues..... >:

VOTE: Joral probs

Who's there

Trusting you to be town here Creature
I need my hydra buddy back

this doesn't sound like town creature yet.
ok lemme do some critcialt thniknig!!!

yeah you're adding nothing but noise to this conversation pls stop with that

it's transparently a shitpost

but fine, I think you are town. scum usually don't have the guts to throw their weight around that much.

>votes the worst

>thinks the worst is town, backtracking, but never removes vote

btw my neighborhood is almost silent

Becuase it's full of lurkass-scum like

{Nico, Creature, Renais}

and you.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

I really haven't seen anything in the past few pages that's changing my major two scumreads.

Creature

provides substance and a highly stream-of-consciousness point of view that ACTUALLY serves to generate perception in the game.

He's openly admitting to shitposting and doing nothing in his recent posts, and he's actively not engaging with the suspicion on him.

The only reason I can see him actually posting more is because is scum-meta is well-known for a lack of posts already, and that he's trying to deflate the suspicion on him.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

"Creature provides substance and a highly stream-of-consciousness point of view that ACTUALLY serves to generate perception in the game."

as town of course

also

Varsoon

has disappeared and I don't know if I should just replace /in on my main.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

The Goblin King has begun to sing!

Reality Check, The Worst, Scioness Sajj have been sent to the Underground.

Cool... engaged players all leave, and people just continue to state the obvious.

The only thing that keeps me from saying this ISN'T scum, is that it's possible this was a self-caused ability. Which I think would mostly come from town in this scenario.

I have a townish general read of the people here; so I can't see scum doing this to themselves, especially since neither one of them were in any danger of being lynched or wagoned with the present game.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Ugh... this gamestate.

the overwhelming majority on creature wagon does seem pretty weird if he's town tbh

i still don't understand why tpfkap/renais lynch aren't on the table and why this playerlist is completely OK with the level of bullshit in the thread. realtalk if it continues to be this awful I might just /out

I've never been OK with the level of bullshit in this thread.
I've never said "no" to a

tgkfap or renais

lynch, and I've voiced that they're my other two strong scumreads presently besides

Creature

.
If you're going to /out, at least be useful and talk to me on why

Creature

isn't a good lynch.

It's not hard to read him. He's made no stances in this game, and he's actively playing null. This is how

Creature

-antitown operates.

kk

OK - how's the apathy doing for yeah? Bet it's helping you fulfill your wincon.

aight yo wassup g's im here now talk to me
creature could be scum but seems kinda lynchabity nowatimsayin

So... 27 pages and you don't have many reads much at all?

And why are you saying

"

creature

could be scum but"

, if he's lynchbaity, then why aren't you discussing the wagon on him?

the three players who were removed had the highest post count in the game
while i think it probs was a scum ability, they might not have chosen who to do it on

I don't get the purpose of this post. You're parroting the fact that

the worst

,

Sajj

, and

reality

contributed the most

((which I would argue is not 100% true))

- but then you're stating that the ability was PROBABLY made by scum.

In essence, you make no conclusion or anything that someone gamesolving could work with.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Labyrinth Mafia - Votecount 1.22:

Creature (3): WhemeStar, Vartsun, Joral
The Worst (2): Shoshin, Reality Check
Princess of Renais (1): TehBrawlGuy
Shoshin (1): TPFKAP
WhemeStar (1): ArcAngel9
Reality Check (1): The Worst
ArcAngel9 (1): Randomidget
TPFKAP (0):
Joral (0):
Nancy Drew 39 (0):
Scioness Sajj (0):
Vartsun (0):
TehBrawlGuy (0):
NicoRobin (0):
Randomidget (0):


Not voting: Nancy Drew 39, NicoRobin, Creature, Scioness Sajj, Princess of Renais

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

The day will end at 7 days, 14 hours, 46 minutes.

The Goblin King has begun to sing!

Reality Check, The Worst, Scioness Sajj have been sent to the Underground.

Labyrinth Mafia - Votecount 1.27:

Creature (5): WhemeStar, Vartsun, Joral, TPFKAP, Nancy Drew 39
Princess of Renais (1): TehBrawlGuy
NicoRobin (1): ArcAngel9
ArcAngel9 (1): Randomidget
Shoshin (0):
WhemeStar (0):
TPFKAP (0):
Joral (0):
Nancy Drew 39 (0):
Vartsun (0):
TehBrawlGuy (0):
Randomidget (0):


Not voting: NicoRobin, Creature, Princess of Renais, Shoshin

With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch.

The day will end at (expired on 2018-06-07 15:00:00).

Upon looking at the wagons, I'm thinking this ability is probably done by town within

{the worst, Reality Check, Sajj}

If

Creature

were scum, then it'd make more sense to remove players ON his wagon, and to cause WIFOM.

A lot of

the worst's

,

reality's

, and

Sajj's

interactions in this game were amongst each other - as they were very active.

So now I'm little worried about the

Creature

wagon, nobody's outright defended it besides maybe

Nancy

before her vote, but I don't think people are engaging with that.

Wheme

was the ONLY sensible vote on that wagon, but he's going for

Joral

... who I should ISO to strengthen my read there - because I think he's town, but I don't where his heads at in the game if he's not voting independently. Dislike the

tgkfap

vote much like the rest of their posts.

Okay, I just ISOd my last town game with Creature on MU. I had subbed in late to that game and had never fully read the entire thread. But comparing his ISO in that game with this one, there really is no contest. Keep in mind that this game has a 2 week d1 and the game on MU had only 48 hrs and he did a helluva a lot more solving in those 2 days, than he has done here in an entire week.

UNVOTE: Rennais

VOTE: Creature

So are you thinking he's scum off meta as well, now? Or in-game thoughts? What changed?

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

I'm going to post GIFs of kitties to entice people TO DO SOMETHING.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Who do we Lynch? NicoRobin, Princess of Reinais, TehBrawlGuy or someone from my wagon?

"Yay! Because in a game filling with apathy, let's just throw HALF THE PLAYERLIST as a lynch, and then cast transparent suspicion on my wagon! WHEEEEEEE!!!

VOTE: NicoRobin

Mental note to investigate this post-flip, I mean, if people actually want to play Mafia and lynch this.

Though I'm trying to figure out what it means that Jareth took the 3 people with the most posts...

Who?

VOTE: Joral

Idc anymore not unvoting this

Can you explain this? I thought you were seeing the light,

Wheme

I am in Lebannon.

If you're going to post random flavor that adds nothing to actually figuring out the game, then at least explain what it means.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Will get to this game tomorrow.

Honestly, I'm likely going to replace /in on my main.

Varsoon

hasn't responded in a week and he's going VLA for most of this month soon anyway.

~ Taly