SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

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random voting.... I miss you.....

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/innnnnnnnnnn

VOTE: Espeonage

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can't see any kinda vote modification in my role PM unless I'm going crazy/ier

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and he's from australia..... intent to give a 10

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Bloody oath, cheers!

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Rate my bottom

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wang vig best roleclaim ever

Maria is always scum (but really I don't think I'm good at reading her without associations). Also got minor experience with town!Espe, town!Vaxk, town!Dunnstral and town!Chara kinda but probably not enough to read them accurately.

I've also heard Chara is like really really towny as town fwiw

pedit: I shit on everything but you, you're too pretty. <3

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@Vaxk I think it was shitposting (I hope)

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Brawl you are fantastic

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GREETINGS EMISSARY OF THE PENGUIN PRINCIPALITY

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If it helps at all my opening posts were rvs level content

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espeYOnage why you scumreading DV's townread?

pedit: l0l gr8 minds

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I wanna hear why you townread his flurry of posts btw

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It's page 3 and the start of d1. If you're not seeing what he's seeing throw me some contrary opinions or some kind of read of your own?

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I don't mind the pseudolynch idea but I'm feeling like it's kinda better to talk in circles then discuss our intended votes?

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1) QUACK! Hi the worst! <3 What do you think of Fire townreading you? Also, do you have any intended votes right now?

quack quack Taly <3

I am sliiiiiiightly uncomfortable with how many towny points Fire is throwing at me right now
they need to talk to Espeonage more first though.

Chara entry was towny, otherwise notrly



pedit: did you post cute gifs as a form of town meta insertion =_=

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i'm uncomfortable about the same thing. sort of.

Fire threw town points at you for downplaying your own posts as RVS... which might be ok, except i said i might be scumreading you for those posts. so why wouldn't scum downplay them? i might be missing something obvious.

and same question to you, why was my entrance towny? all i remember doing is throwing minor shade your way. :>

you threw shade at me?! how mean >:

I liked the critical approach and also you had a couple of thoughts which are sitting straight at the back of my mind currently.

I mean rvs quality posts are never ZERO content I'm always trying to do something in rvs. So I'll gladly admit there's a form of ~agenda~ there and it shouldn't be taken 0% seriously, it's just executed in a very different way than I'd execute reads outside of rvs...bc rvs

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Enjoy the beach

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Too many people are playing null right now. It's a bit hard to conjure reads.

It's 5 pages in. It will come. It will come. Also I no longer trust your ass anymore!

goodfuckingposting scum!Taly is basically satan

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more like tiny warm towny feelings?
I wouldn't say I have a strong read but her entrance felt fine

who's reads on her are pinging you if anyone's DV?

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PINE<3333

TBH I think if someone's role is impacted by the d1 mechanics or has a strong negative utility or something it's worth claiming otherwise probably not. I like whoever made that BP claim less the more I think on it

Dan and Shoshin are looking ok

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yeah nothing by Punreader has impressed me

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not sure how to feel about the fact I don't think that team has any scum in it

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Can we do some type of voting system? I'm having a difficult time parsing where people really are without some sort of vote.

thissssssss
I'll probably try and do a rudimentary thing later tonight if I'm freeish

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How are you sure Dan, Shoshin, and DeasVail are likely town?

Does this impact your read on Screen?

did I say that?

Srceen I'm not ready to read with any kind of confidence. I've played with him as both alignments but treat it as dead null for me.

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meant I like Dan and Shoshin for town rn btw

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BP claim I initially thought was kinda ballsy and towny but in hindsight idrk why I thought that. Do you have an issue with my comments on Pun Taly?

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TALY STOP READING MY POSTS UNCRITICALLY

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and also wrt srceen it would be anti town for me to explain what I find different about his play, I've played with him as scum once and town 3?+ times. Also read a few older games but he doesn't roll scum often.

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and also wrt srceen it would be anti town for me to explain what I find different about his play, I've played with him as scum once and town 3?+ times. Also read a few older games but he doesn't roll scum often.

What’s/why is anti town?

uh

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Sup DV?

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Sup DV?

Just got back to Sydney from Lithgow for the weekend! (I don’t know where in Aus you’re from so this could be meaningless). And I have the long weekend off which is really nice

What about you?

Long weekends are the greatest!!!
I've been invited to go hiking so just wondering whether I'm too lazy and need to flake..

I'm in Adelaide btw.

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Yeah, I don't quite get this post...

That is OK you don't have to

Not enough readable content and his v/la is prejudicing my read so gonna need a bit of time

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EVERYONE here is going to give tehbrawlguy a 0. We are lycnhign him tonight, hands down. Im open to the other person who gets killed.

No

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Yeah, I don't quite get this post...

That is OK you don't have to

Not enough readable content and his v/la is prejudicing my read so gonna need a bit of time

also FTR other people scumreading srceen makes me want to townread him lol.

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Town
ReubenWasFine
NicoRobin
VaxKiller

Free square

Shoshin
Chara
Punreader
Scum

If you landed on the free square, you may be given a high or low number. This may already be decided.

I'll bite
why is Nico your highest townread?
also curious why Shoshin/Chara are on the lower end

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Ugh

Also, it annoys me that people often say they don't know how to read me. That just sets me up for WIFOM later which happens a lot.

well, that won't be a problem here, seeing as you're town.

what makes you say that so confidently?

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I'm currently one of the most vocal people in this game

The fact that my alignment or the conclusion of my alignment being questionable makes me feel a little uneasy.

I think I'd rather be scumread than be neutral/null. At least with a scumread, there's not this passive

"muddy the waters"

thinking on my slot.

There's more to work with when someone has an opinion or defined read on you.

I just think scum looks at me and thinks

"hmmm, this is an easy person to cast uncertainty on"

I'm "sort post-flip" basketing you
I literally feel like I've told you this is the way I'll be treating you ingame from now on

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happy to talk about it if you'd like, Chara. I've seen Taly fake some pretty impressive stuff as scum before.
he's not going below the null line here unless something seriously changes, but he's very very unlikely to be in my top ~5 EOD1.

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but you raise a fucking convincing point regarding his reactions to being townread. I'm still really not satisfied he's rolling outside of his scumrange but I'm reconsidering my insistence about sorting him later.

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concur

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yeah okay fine Taly is probably town whatever

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yeah okay fine Taly is probably town whatever

is this a towntell for taly or something?

give me your thoughts on 307 and 308

1) going by the last few pages he's more likely to be town than he usually is yeah
2) what about 307/308?

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they are BIG POSTS with lots of thoughts in them and I think you guys need to talk it out between yourselves a bit more before I'm comfortable giving some kinda read that's actually got any weight

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Dude be careful being Sailor Moon
her townbloc kinda all heroically sacrifice themselves from time to time

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yeah nothing by Punreader has impressed me

Wanted to come back to this and say: I am doing a reads compilation, and am rereading the thread to look for any aspects I've missed. You probably won't be impressed by the posted list (it's not special), but I intend to post the

reasons

behind the list approximately 24 hours (give or take 6-10 hours) after the reads; I'll be quite curious to see your reaction after.

fire emoji
I'm keen for it bro

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@punreader
absolutely amazing alliteration, amigo

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huh I think my first 10 is going to Taly McDeepwolfFace
colour me surprised

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i am interested in why he's now locktown to worst, though.

heavytown more so than locktown, it's a gamestate mind melding thing I experienced while going through Taly's posts which I haven't experienced before and totally didn't expect

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Ratings are hard to figure out because I need to find where to put my townreads, the people I want alive, the people I want dead, and the people I sr.
change PP to a 10

this is a good post imo

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I like Maria

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So hey you guyz

EP was just in the Fox Discord just now, and told me that Brawl is Town. Like legit confTown. Seems SUPER UNPROFESSIONAL to me, but whatev.

They also hinted that if we were smart, we’d downvote Punreader. I dunno. They might be drunkmodding.

I lol'd

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So hey you guyz

EP was just in the Fox Discord just now, and told me that Brawl is Town. Like legit confTown. Seems SUPER UNPROFESSIONAL to me, but whatev.

They also hinted that if we were smart, we’d downvote Punreader. I dunno. They might be drunkmodding.

Why not listmod here and replace out?

yikes

@srceen did you not realise Pine was shitposting?

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So hey you guyz

EP was just in the Fox Discord just now, and told me that Brawl is Town. Like legit confTown. Seems SUPER UNPROFESSIONAL to me, but whatev.

They also hinted that if we were smart, we’d downvote Punreader. I dunno. They might be drunkmodding.

Why not listmod here and replace out?

yikes

@srceen did you not realise Pine was shitposting?

No.
That’s why I asked for clarification.

yikes

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I have 3 townreads I like a lot : ]
a few I like less

someone tell me how to feel about DV/TBG or talk to me about it

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I have 3 townreads I like a lot : ]
a few I like less

someone tell me how to feel about DV/TBG or talk to me about it

I am getting Brawl's intentions are genuinely town and wanting to gamesolve. Recent pages have really gotten that to a much better read from when I was liking DV's case.

On that note, I liked DVs case on TBG at the time and felt he truly believed it which means town.

ok sweet I'm not going crazy then

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Espe towny
PP not towny

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Shoshin is by far the player that interests me the most atm.

I like her. What's on your mind?

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@all.
Engage with me.

Anything you wanna talk to me abt ATM or

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It's really hard to explain the best way to say it is her posts look towny but I don't want to tr them? She's interesting someone I want alive for sure to look at and think about. That's prob the best way I can answer it

Do you think she'll be easier to sort later, or like... it's better to leave her alive on the probability that she's town?

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piney y u bein lazy

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@all.
Engage with me.

Anything you wanna talk to me abt ATM or

I lol'd

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....wait that's the wrong way to react to a proposal T_T

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It's really hard to explain the best way to say it is her posts look towny but I don't want to tr them? She's interesting someone I want alive for sure to look at and think about. That's prob the best way I can answer it

Do you think she'll be easier to sort later, or like... it's better to leave her alive on the probability that she's town?

Both for the most part

sweet good takes I agree strongly w the second one

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I'm strongly against ending the day early.

I strongly advise for it before apathy sets in and people second guess there reads
I rather have an early day that everyone feels confident on then a long day that is pathy

QFT

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how

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beer is too great to drag down with mafia

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good thinking

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having a good night srceen? you've been on fire in the speezy

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, can you give me a less-biased-than-myself view of

TBG's

posts?

Do you have any preference or ending the day or actively not ending it?

I don't have a preference Nah, I'll defer to the vox populi ^_^ I'm OK with this pace but whenever the day ends, it ends.

also a reminder to read TBG's posts more critically

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I have content to respond to, which I will in circa 12 hours.
DO NOT END THE DAY BEFORE I CAN EXPLAIN WHY I AM DOING THIS AND GIVE RESPONSES TO THE RESPONSES TO MY READS.

Claim: Conditional Bulletproof/Conditional Vigilante; the conditions are inverses.

I actually lied.
I DO have a conditional bulletproof, but it only protects me from those who are ranked HIGHER; I was aiming for an ungated Vig, with the illusion of being bp.

To explain, I can kill people ranked lower than I am, but they can kill me; I can't kill people ranked higher than me, but they can't kill me.

This is why PenguinPower is literally a punclaim.

Details for everything in 12 hours.

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also holy shit I want to point out that he's exactly the wang vigilante

its real guys

LMAO

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Nothing really changed rereading TBG's recent posts.

I'm starting to kinda like TBG honestly. his reactions have felt more genuine as the day has progressed and I think he's on the right track pretty much for the most part?

He's focused on mechanics sure but we have a heavily mechanically weighted d1 so I'm actually kinda feeling like that's fairly pro town.



Part of me wants to ask him for a reads list but also I hate reads lists but also were gonna be forced to do a compulsory one shortly so...... TBG can you sum up your current reads for me?

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There is a voice in the back of my head that kinda hates how PR claimed. the rest of their posting also feels pretty surface level and busyworky. anyone wanna talk to me about PR?

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PP can you talk to me about your attitude towards d1 in general, across all mafia games? L

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There is a voice in the back of my head that kinda hates how PR claimed. the rest of their posting also feels pretty surface level and busyworky. anyone wanna talk to me about PR?

His reads list feels pretty fake, for reasons I've mentioned. He makes it seem like he's been tracking rankings very carefully (e.g. Vax moving from 6 to 4 to 5) yet his rankings don't correspond with the actual rankings so the whole thing seems pretty fake. Like, what's the point of tracking rankings to that degree of precision but using a meaningless spectrum of rankings instead of the correct one? Thoughts?

the spectrum doesn't bother me too much TBH allocating % weight to your reads then fitting them to the actual metric later is totally fine

I just feel like they're kinda reading.... Things. Not reading what people are actually thinking. it's a lot of time spent looking busy without applying tonnes of critical thinking to the game

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I'm starting to think I want to give PP a decent score

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I have a feeling abt who Punreader might be

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I have a feeling abt who Punreader might be

update: I'm probably right and if so they're likely either actually a serial killer or just being totally honest.

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probs also not scum with pine for what that's worth

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I trust pun's claim but this play is bad
lean town on pine tentatively

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I trust pun's claim but this play is bad
lean town on pine tentatively

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00ps

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I kinda agree with you about read lists generally but in this game specifically were kinda obligated to do one at EOD1. I was thinking having a quick snippet of where your mind is at might help me calibrate my read on you but your response is understandable.

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but I feel like you've got a lot of content I haven't digested adequately and you've definitely applied more effort to this phase than I have >:

ok lemme do some work and I'll try and get back to you with some gear to talk about O7

Do you wanna ask me anything?

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I purely asked for a synopsis so that I have context for where your mind is currently at as I read your thought process! ^_^ but I also would probably refuse to produce a reads list on demand rn so l0lhyporcisy


pedit: cyoot

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hmm as a vegetarian I can offer a lot of onions on this subject

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mm Indian food is ideal TBH, legumes and spices = easy win ^_^

cooking vegetarian is so economical and easy, I'm glad to hear more people are doing it! I know some people who only really eat meat when they go out.

I feel like a lot of Italian food really benefits from meat but pasta is also my spirit animal so ....... same...

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yup australiatan!italian food is best veggo for sure. ^^

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want a cup of tea?

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Can I not like and like pun at the same time?

This is me and half the playerlist

o/

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agree TBG wrt Pine. I'm basically half coasting this phase as well so hard to h8

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I try my best, great envoy of the Tree Sovereignty. O7

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Serious question.
Have you played with Pine before?

yes and he's a crafty fucker as both alignments.
at the same time he's ended up with ~the same approach to today that I have and he's very clearly not pushing a malicious agenda. he's optimal for the middle of a reads list imo.

BTW do you think it's likely I've correctly identified who you are?

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agree TBG wrt Pine. I'm basically half coasting this phase as well so hard to h8

The difference is you're half-coasting but still contributing.

Pine's all coast and no contributing.

sure fair, he's not a strong townread.

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I don't know your track record with reading Pine tbqh

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I can comfortably say you'd be lying as little as possible about your role though. if I'm right abt your identity. which gives slight warm fuzzy feelings.

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VOTE: end day


LOVEBIRD <3

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coughbullshitcough

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oh yes I was
I meant it's definitely more important playing mafia but also congrats : D

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morning

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I think so. I'll go grab mine.

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I got some numbers and names ^_^ who wants em

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OK w/e
10 - the worst
10 - Taly
10 - Chara
9 - Espeonage
8 - MariaR
7 - Nahdia
6 - TehBrawlGuy
6 - DeasVail
5 - Punreader
5 - PenguinPower
4 - Vaxkiller
4 - Pine
3 - Shoshin
2 - Dunnstral
1 - Fire Assassin
0 - Srceenplay
0 - ReubenWasFine
0 - NicoRobin

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fam do you guys wanna talk abt each others scores or should we mass post them first

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is that even a question?

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OK w/e
10 - the worst
10 - Taly
10 - Chara
9 - Espeonage
8 - MariaR
7 - Nahdia
6 - TehBrawlGuy
6 - DeasVail
5 - Punreader
5 - PenguinPower
4 - Vaxkiller
4 - Pine
3 - Shoshin
2 - Dunnstral
1 - Fire Assassin
0 - Srceenplay
0 - ReubenWasFine
0 - NicoRobin

I would like to know why Maria and Espeonage were so high on your list

I feel like I've spoken about both of them a fair bit already

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given your history of reading me what's making you think you'll succeed here? o.0

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PenguinPower - 8
Taly - 5
MariaR - 3

Nahdia why PP so high and Taly/Maria so low?

Taly - 2
the worst - 7

and Fire why Taly so low and me so low?

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You haven't talked much about Espe from what I can see, and I would like an idea of why you feel that Maria's posts are coming from town rather than scum.

I guess the best answer would be I'm really not tunnelled on anyone coming off d1. I felt like both of them came from a similar mindset than I was on reads and setup.

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DV's and Espe's lists I don't really want to ask questions about atm for obvious reasons

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eh w/e I expected a higher score from you given you were literally spewing towncred into my mouth at SOD. Still your higher scores are on a few of my highest townreads so idrk how to progress this

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eh w/e I expected a higher score from you given you were literally spewing towncred into my mouth at SOD. Still your higher scores are on a few of my highest townreads so idrk how to progress this

What?

I was surprised I was only a 7
but all the people you rated higher than me make sense

kinda just a knee jerk question

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I was thinking that shot probably came from you.

Is it worth protectives or roleblockers claiming actions here? I'd be surprised if Pine was the scum NK too.

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would you say you townread those who you gave high scores to save from the lunch?

Love the spreadsheet btw I wish I was that clever/bored

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given your history of reading me what's making you think you'll succeed here? o.0

9:12

LMFAO okay you got one

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I might have to hit you up sometime post-game. I love spreadsheets and love mafia but I kinda get a disconnect when I try to combine the two.

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Ahhh yeah same here. I live in Excel and the voices in my head speak VisualBasic

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have you been reading Vax?

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Mobile posting, so I can't provide full details now, but:

I am Cheetory6, and I have a Conditional Bulletproof.
The main condition is me being the most popular player.

This isn't quite as broken as it sounds because there IS a second condition, but for obvious reasons, that condition is best left unclaimed so that the pun don't know when I can/cannot be shot.

I have content to respond to, which I will in circa 12 hours.
DO NOT END THE DAY BEFORE I CAN EXPLAIN WHY I AM DOING THIS AND GIVE RESPONSES TO THE RESPONSES TO MY READS.

Claim: Conditional Bulletproof/Conditional Vigilante; the conditions are inverses.

I actually lied.
I DO have a conditional bulletproof, but it only protects me from those who are ranked HIGHER; I was aiming for an ungated Vig, with the illusion of being bp.

To explain, I can kill people ranked lower than I am, but they can kill me; I can't kill people ranked higher than me, but they can't kill me.

This is why PenguinPower is literally a punclaim.

Details for everything in 12 hours.

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the pine shot is kinda weighing on my mind but I might sleep on it.

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same as any vig role? to blast through the lynchpool at double speed?

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given Pine is hard to read correctly and they were scumreading him they did position it as like an.........ok shot

but if my assumption re identity is correct I believe pine has sound experience in reading pun's main. furthermore I don't think pun made any effort to engage with pine d1. if memory serves they talked around his responses and told me I should sheep them.

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my mind is a gooey mess of WIFOM right now :c

pedit: omglol

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pun basically powertowned and demanded we give them good scores so they can vig effectively

pine very LOUD AND PROUDLY active lurked

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actually solid I didn't read your list before

why hard TR pine and scumread like Taly and Maria?

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why is TBG your biggest scumread as of rankings?

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I kinda relate to PP's d1 gamestate frustration
not enough for a hard TR but I think it's town indicative
He also stated strong dislike for d1, if I'm bored sometime I'll check whether he normally comes across the way he did as town

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I kinda relate to PP's d1 gamestate frustration
not enough for a hard TR but I think it's town indicative
He also stated strong dislike for d1, if I'm bored sometime I'll check whether he normally comes across the way he did as town

this was @Taly

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there were a few pretty polarising slots day one honestly

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ughhh PP I'm still kinda parsing and expecting more from today. I kinda like TBG for town rn. Fire could definitely be scum honestly but I am intentionally lurking through that read rn

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this is pretty much d1 though in a conventional mafia sense and you're obvtowning so just focus on recalibrating your reads with the new gamestate

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VOTE: Vaxkiller

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gotchu fam<3

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I mean there's a reason why I went from paranoia lock-5ing you to townreading you (also Chara helped a lot w that)

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no shit, dude, when you leave it as vague as that it encompasses pretty much everything

this sentence speaks into my soul (this is exactly what I thought as I facepalmed)

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I feel like I'm scumread solely as an excuse to NOT engage with me. I cannot be the only person that thinks this.

I'll second this actually
not convinced people are reading your posts here

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are yiu implying I don't normally get things?!!?? >:[

because that would be correct but mean

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I'm ok with this one

VOTE: Fire Assassin

pedit: lmfao Taly r u durnk

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PP's rankings don't look like the rankings of a townie

How so

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@shoshin

Spoiler: top secret message for shoshin's eyes only

@FireA you've been pinging me all game so I stand by jumping on that wagon. really didn't parse that you had a guilty and I'm surprised you didn't out it right away.

VOTE: Espe

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I highly doubt Taly is scum, TBG.

+1

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bruh >:

luv you too though so all forgiven

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Taly gets a lot of needless flak for it. I like reading thru his posts and addressing anything directed at me before processing his other points :>

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Taly

**

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Also, didn't TBG say that he put me a low number solely because he didn't think I'd need numbers? I see this coming from town more often?

Why do you see this as coming from town? I'm not sure I understand the mindset behind that.

same reason people shift brackets in the actual supp I guess, it weights those he thinks need the points. reserving his high numbers to townreads who he doesn't feel are agreed on shows a high level of conviction in his reads. IDK it's hard to put into words but I like it too.

the little voice in my head is asking what would scum intent would be here. tank obvtown and reserve to his scumbuddies?... just doesn't seem like a scummy thing to do.

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Hold on I mightttttt be a wizard

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Sheet version edited out btw tbg

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@TBG use this

Code: Select all

[table][row][cell]Player#[/cell][cell]Player Name[/cell][cell]Ranking[/cell][cell]Reasoning[/cell][cell]Order ranking assigned[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]1[/cell][cell]TehBrawlGuy[/cell][cell]10[/cell][cell][/cell][cell]1[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]2[/cell][cell]Taly[/cell][cell]1[/cell][cell]Doesn't need the points and I want to make sure my lowest point values go to people not on the lynch block[/cell][cell]9[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]3[/cell][cell]Punreader[/cell][cell]10[/cell][cell]I buy his claim and I want him to be superpowered[/cell][cell]4[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]4[/cell][cell]MariaR[/cell][cell]8[/cell][cell]Gaming the vote system to prevent lynch[/cell][cell]7[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]5[/cell][cell]DeasVail[/cell][cell]5[/cell][cell]See Notes[/cell][cell]15[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]6[/cell][cell]Espeonage[/cell][cell]0[/cell][cell]obvscum[/cell][cell]3[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]7[/cell][cell]Dunnstral[/cell][cell]9[/cell][cell]He needs to be > espe[/cell][cell]5[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]8[/cell][cell]Nahdia[/cell][cell]6[/cell][cell]Filler Town read[/cell][cell]14[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]9[/cell][cell]the worst[/cell][cell]2[/cell][cell]Doesn't need the points and I want to make sure my lowest point values go to people not on the lynch block[/cell][cell]10[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]10[/cell][cell]Pine[/cell][cell]10[/cell][cell]Gaming the vote system to prevent lynch[/cell][cell]6[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]11[/cell][cell]Shoshin[/cell][cell]7[/cell][cell]Filler, but a combination of Sho seeming different than her scumplay in our last game, and thinking she's decent skill-wise[/cell][cell]12[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]12[/cell][cell]Fire Assassin[/cell][cell]4[/cell][cell]See Notes[/cell][cell]15[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]13[/cell][cell]Lovebird[/cell][cell]5[/cell][cell]See Notes[/cell][cell]15[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]14[/cell][cell]Chara[/cell][cell]6[/cell][cell]Filler Town read[/cell][cell]13[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]15[/cell][cell]Srceenplay[/cell][cell]3[/cell][cell]Doesn't need the points and I want to make sure my lowest point values go to people not on the lynch block[/cell][cell]11[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]16[/cell][cell]Vaxkiller[/cell][cell]4[/cell][cell]See Notes[/cell][cell]15[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]17[/cell][cell]PenguinPower[/cell][cell]0[/cell][cell]obvscum[/cell][cell]2[/cell][/row]

[row][cell]18[/cell][cell]NicoRobin[/cell][cell]0[/cell][cell]hard lurking, not sure if Scum but would rather PL via rankings than actual lynch[/cell][cell]8[/cell][/row][/table]

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I'm not locktowning TBG quite as hard as others but at this juncture I'd be really surprised if he was scum

that said he was in about the same tier as Espe and I haven't really gone back and worked through how I was so far off base there..


pedit: Excel trick, basically edited emdashes into your posts to use as delimited "text to column" breaks, did the thing, then inserted new columns in between the actual columns to use for bbcode :>

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gngn PP

I concur, Espe is going down today.

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He realised he misunderstood that btw

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yas I could see Vax's posting coming from scum

could you not?

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like in fairness, hindsight is 20/20 and there was an element of knee-jerk in my vote but I'm really not doubting that inno

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how the fuck did they strike you as pretty town?

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I can probably elaborate after work on what was pinging me. I'll admit there was an element of knee-jerk and sheer pressurevote there but like....that's a weird take without the prob!inno

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actually

might dig in my heels and insist you explain first.

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sure that's an okay read I guess. I'm still really not sure that's all that difficult to fake as scum but it's probably fair to say my reaction was spilled over by being irritated more so than Vaxk #scumposting or w/e

Look tbh I rushed my ratings because I was sick as a dog over the weekend and kinda bad at taking much away from d1 in a general sense but vaxk didn't get a great rating from me because he was just kinda.... an occupant of the game......

I also kinda leantowned on Pine as discussed but some of us actually made a deal of it. Here's the extent of Vaxk's discussions on Pine. brace yourself......

Pine where you at here with scum/town

dats it.
like I spoke out about pine because for a while I could see his slot potentially being at risk of being PoE'd into a rankings list. considering the strength of Vaxk's read I was kinda surprised he just chilled while Pine lurked himself into the abyss then jumps into d2 like "no0o0o0o0o my townread is dead"

so we may be at an impasse but I feel like Vaxk's posting is liable to be fake. given the current shenanigans I'm chill w shelving it and letting Vaxk produce more AI content

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was kinda nervous you were trying to push me into a corner where I'm forced to over explain something I don't feel all that strongly about.

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there's a greater than 0% chance Vaxk is still scum sure but it's not a probability by any stretch

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and that's L-1

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Vaxk was the last kill of D2. he felt really towny early on but much less so later.

and yeah as you indicated we basically ultimately ended up lolshooting based on gut all game.

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why is our take on Vaxk exactly the same

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took a screenshot of my brain

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MariaR/Chara

@ep

is this like this intentionally?

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tbf I think it's kinda likely to be third party

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ohhh I meant Pun's role is probably TP

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honestly I forgot you'd claimed, mb

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I feel weirdly comfortable with this

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UNVOTE: Espeonage

why unvote here?

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UNVOTE: Espeonage

why unvote here?

I'm 2 seconds away from unvoting, but I won't revote anyone just yet. Should I or should I not?

don't unvote

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also definitely want Shoshin's answer here

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did someone say data~?

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tfw pine is more useful than srceen

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mm let me think about this

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Did anyone lie about what they ranked everyone?

possible but I'm crunching numbers atm and it's unlikely
if so, probably minor

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y

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I'm reserving judgement until my attention isn't divided ftr

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once we have points from srceen's slot half of the list can be correctly scored

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hold on why do you still not think Espe is town?
but you're not voting him?
why are you voting Dunn?

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Nico's rating counted double, keep that in mind for calculations

got it. thanks.
only her ratings on others by the looks of things. bit of PoE to get it exact.

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nico's votes are public, pine posted his 10s and 0s

do we just need like fire's and espe's scores?


fire c. 4.69
espe c.5.93

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can throw down an interim one if anyone's interested (pending srceenslot rankings) but the results are wonky so I don't wanna shit up the thread too much

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hmmm it's ALMOST certain espe is higher than fire

I'll reread with a more ~focused mind~ after I'm done shopping

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UNVOTE:

COOOMMMBBBBOOOOO

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Maria is there any reason you could potentially doubt your ability?

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uh doubt your result, rather

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the 80% thing was messing with my head

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this doesn't actually sound too bad

Maria is a lot more towny than Fire by play IMO but his role sounds like a thing.

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kinda weird spot but currently kinda leaning yes

I read Espe as town before Dunn d1 but Dunn's play today has also been good. we also probably have a clear on Espe.

at the same time I'm not sure how to feel about the protect thing because I really wouldn't have expected Espe as a NK target last night :s

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The balancing tool is that either me or dunn becomes vanilla. It doesn't need another one.

Also, EP flavour, in your best paraphrasing, and go.

Whoever won the bet got to choose to vig, protect, or vanillaise the other.

he said it was possible but has elaborated since

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basically probably maybe somewhere in
1. TehBrawlGuy
2. Taly
3. Punreader
4. MariaR
11. Shoshin
14. Chara

doesn't really make sense for scum to shoot Espe N1 here given the slapfight with Fire d1

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remove Shoshin from that list, blonde moment

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The NK didn't happen last night.

I protected Espeonage from night kills

not sure if 1shot / doc / full BP situation

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how is PP obvscum

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how is PP obvscum

Do you have a reason to think

PP

isn't scum?

Would it be bad for me to tunnel

PP

, coach

TW

? D;

I'm not really sure how he's lower than nullscum honestly. If I'm honest his play wouldn't be hard to fake as scum but it also doesn't feel like how scum approaches this game... :/

Tunnelling is usually probably bad but if you think PP actually has high scum equity can you show me what he's up to here?

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What do you think of Fire vs Maria Taly?

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O_O

I'm starting to seriously doubt that

Maria V Fire

are TvS.

I don't know if it's TvT or SvS, but my brain's weird shit right now, and I don't know if I'm 100% on point, or extremely off. So I'm going to think here.

Am I going crazy

TW

?

BRUH NO YOU JUST WALLPOSTED THE CONTSNTS OF MY BRAIN

Or maybe we're both going crazy idk yet

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@Pun you're quite right, my memory didn't serve as well as intended. The feeling I got was that you were talking AT Pine rather than attempting to engage with him. the case also felt highly overblown.

but looking back at this in ISO I actually think (ironically) I'm misreading playstyle as malicious distancing. it is slightly strange to me that you and Pine have so much history yet both allege that each cannot read the other....but also Pine is dead so this is just another piece of tinfoil on my hat.

I'm shelving this, I kinda doubt that you're groupscum and which means your claim is very likely legitimate, or you're just an SK.