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Post Post #21 (isolation #0) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:27 pm

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In post 20, DeasVail wrote:I'll buy a vowel please!
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I am very not pleased with my role pm here and I am currently demanding EP to review it and give me a new one.

For an idea of what I got, he gave me "errantparabola" the worst kind of role you can possibly have in this game.

I will not probably talk about my role for the remainder of this game day, but I really want this day focused on not scumhunting, but townhunting.

Right now I have a weak town read on the worst.
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Post Post #23 (isolation #1) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:30 pm

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Because role claims in themselves are not alignment indicative, and I was just about to make a comment on Punreader claim being likely truthful but doesnt mean its townie.
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Post Post #25 (isolation #2) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:32 pm

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No it doesn't.

Do you think that someone claiming is inherently townie?
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Post Post #28 (isolation #3) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:39 pm

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In post 26, Espeonage wrote:This early, with the aim to increase public knowledge, yeah. It's town points.
kind of silly if you ask me.
In post 27, Espeonage wrote:I still don't know why you picked the worst though.
Odd choice of words. Why do you think I said the worst was weak town?
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Post Post #30 (isolation #4) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:46 pm

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In post 29, Espeonage wrote:no idea

It seems like you put the names in a hat and pulled one out.
Yeah, its called my town hat. And the names pulled out are town. the worst seems to be coming from a state of ignorance and involved with the people around him a townie way. I could honestly see Shoshin as townie also for pointing out we could still use votes in a manner to display our opinions. I feel even less strongly on that sort of thinking though.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #5) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:55 pm

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In post 36, TehBrawlGuy wrote:
In post 35, Espeonage wrote:T_T

How do you know the truth?
my role is wang swinger

i can check one person each day

at night I can target someone and swing my wang at them - whoever's is smaller dies
Sounds like you need to not swing it at night, you will kill yourself within the first night if you do.

Also I would CC this claim if I believed this wouldn't turn into a cock fight.
In post 39, the worst wrote:wang vig best roleclaim ever

Maria is always scum :lol: (but really I don't think I'm good at reading her without associations). Also got minor experience with town!Espe, town!Vaxk, town!Dunnstral and town!Chara kinda but probably not enough to read them accurately.

I've also heard Chara is like really really towny as town fwiw

pedit: I shit on everything but you, you're too pretty. <3
Townie post by the worst.
In post 46, PenguinPower wrote:It's important that you all rate me highly. Both for my self-esteem, and for town.

:)
I will rate you highly if you rate me highly. Call it tic for tac. Also got any specific thoughts on anyone Penguin?

If we were going to go for a date at night, where would you like to go?
In post 47, the worst wrote:GREETINGS EMISSARY OF THE PENGUIN PRINCIPALITY
Ducks and Penguins forming alliances is a terrifying thing. Could you perhaps engage in trade wars instead?
In post 49, Chara wrote:
In post 26, Espeonage wrote:This early, with the aim to increase public knowledge, yeah. It's town points.
i don't agree with really any part of this but it kind of makes me want to townread Espeon. just a little.

and hi Fire! <3
Hello Chara.
I would ask you if I can pocket you, but I am kind of bored of the whole "let me pocket you!" and the "how can I get you to scumread me?".

Put me as null for now.

Also, how has the job been?
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Post Post #62 (isolation #6) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:58 pm

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In post 53, DeasVail wrote:
In post 50, Chara wrote:
In post 39, the worst wrote: I've also heard Chara is like really really towny as town fwiw
this is true.

i'm giving Brawl my 10 and Deas's opening was super scum for no other reason than the "i want to be liked here" vibe.
Being liked is nice though

And I want to make things fun because too often mafia gets super intense and serious and I don't want to be about that here!
This is the kind of attitude I think scum usually take to when they get scum.
But the way its done and by person, probably means nothing?

Actually I like the response the more I think of, it does say something I think could be a scum kind of feels bad about having to be a dirty scum but is established in a less about guilt.
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Post Post #63 (isolation #7) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:00 pm

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In post 51, Chara wrote:actually can't decide if i like the worst's reaction to it or Deas's post itself less.

regarding Cheet's roleclaim, i wonder about claiming a BP at all. i can see the intent is "vote me as most popular so i can use my ability" which i
understand
even if i don't particularly like it.
Chara is townie.
In post 52, the worst wrote:If it helps at all my opening posts were rvs level content :lol: :lol:
Downplaying ones own alignement indicative posts is a townie sign. More town points for the worst.

I am already forming a town league!
I feel almost good about these to town block.

Almost.

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Post Post #64 (isolation #8) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:06 pm

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In post 54, DeasVail wrote:Fire, I am torn.

I don't know whether to interpret your opening as town wanting to get stuck into the game and promote a scumhunting vibe, or whether to interpret it as scum trying hard to look town by doing "work" when everyone else was just joking around.
Its neither.
I am not scumhunting for the first thing, I am townhunting. Which is focused on taking people out of the lynch pool and focus on ensuring that these people are highest degree of accuracy.

I also have an attitude of trying to always be "into" the game for when I get into games. So doing anything for appearances is not something I care about.

I don't like this analysis of "looking like doing work", but I have found I get this almost any game I play. So it can be town but is really lazy interpretations of actions.
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Post Post #75 (isolation #9) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:46 pm

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In post 73, Espeonage wrote:he scum bc he being arbitrary.

Either that or I am completely blind to what he is seeing.
What is arbitrary? I got the idea this makes sense with my first post in game on my townread on the worst but not seeing how it makes sense now....

I cant tell what you are blind about.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #10) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:49 pm

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Like I get the specific idea you are not reading my posts Espeonage and wondering why you espouse a scumread while not reading
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Post Post #84 (isolation #11) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:14 am

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In post 80, Taly wrote:Yeah, I don't get a good feeling with this post.

Why is Espeon's scumread on you worth assuming that he's not even reading?
Did you read my posts?
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Post Post #85 (isolation #12) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:16 am

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In post 80, Taly wrote:Then what scum-motivation do you see behind Pun, if any? And I'm not just talking about his claim.
Never said it was scum motivated, just not Townie.
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Post Post #87 (isolation #13) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:35 am

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In post 86, Taly wrote:Did you read mine? I don't ask questions for no reason.

If I missed something, then point it out to me.
Yes, and if You are telling me you are reading something and then offer me a question where the answer was already provided you are substituting playing the game by making me play the game for you. This is page four.
Your question is answered in the pagetop post.

Go read.
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Post Post #88 (isolation #14) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:37 am

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If I was handing out scum points right now I would have Espeonage and Taly taking the most.
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Post Post #91 (isolation #15) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:47 am

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Did you read yet?
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Post Post #94 (isolation #16) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:55 am

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In post 89, Taly wrote:Image
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Post Post #288 (isolation #17) » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:47 pm

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I have received my prod, but I haven't read anything since basically page 4.
This post is a promise that I will read up and comment on things I have missed tomorrow morning/afternoon.

Have a wonderful night everyone.
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Post Post #289 (isolation #18) » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:49 pm

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In post 136, Espeonage wrote:
In post 135, Dunnstral wrote:Hi, this is a thing.

For my role, I need Fire Assassin to be rated highly today
And I am the antithesis, I need him to do poorly.

But that's cool bc he scum.
This is a scum post and I will go into depth on why it is tomorrow.
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Post Post #290 (isolation #19) » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:52 pm

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In post 154, ActionDan wrote:Thought process here is manufactured

Espe came off as stilted earlier but considering w.e this role mechanic that's going on between Dunnstral/Espe/Vax/FA might explain that somewhat aside from the fact that Espe's continued serious scum read on FA doesn't make sense to me.
This is townie and has some of my thinking on why espe is scum.
1) original scumread had no substance.
2) his role apparently has him making me need to be low score. Which I think is really why he has a scumread.
3) I think him telling dunn they have opposite roles might be some kind of slip of having more information than others.
which would mean dunn is probably town. Or it means nothing, but I think its a possible slip.
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Post Post #384 (isolation #20) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:26 pm

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In post 371, MariaR wrote:>is getting tr and has no idea why.
Whew
I am not townreading you. In fact I am really unsure of why you are behaving the way you have been.
Care to explain what got you so into the game?
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Post Post #388 (isolation #21) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:28 pm

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I have yet to decide how I am going to rank anyone but right now I am considering rnging it besides my lowest scores going to people I am heavily unsure or scumreading.
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Post Post #390 (isolation #22) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:28 pm

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In post 387, MariaR wrote:honestly have 0 clue what you're talking about.
I'm just playing a game of mafia man
Don't play that with me, I know you better than that.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #23) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:29 pm

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In post 356, PenguinPower wrote:Espeonage is high rating for me right now.

Taly needs to chill for a bit.
Penguin, explain the espeonage townread here.
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Post Post #394 (isolation #24) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:30 pm

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In post 334, Shoshin wrote:
In post 332, Taly wrote:
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has temporarily calmed down; what was your
original
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Change of plan. The time is actually now! (Plans to do something else ended up falling through)
And what about
TBG
made you change that thought process?
At least half the questions you ask give me the sense that you're not thinking very deeply about why players do things before you ask the question.
I came to this conclusion a few pages into the game and concluded Taly was very likely scum faking ignorance. Where you been?
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Post Post #399 (isolation #25) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:32 pm

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Chara your reads aren't high quality on day 1. Sorry but I think its true.
And I think she was into the game in the first few pages, but now yeah I agree not into it and would rather screw around.
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Post Post #402 (isolation #26) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:34 pm

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In post 397, MariaR wrote:Do you think I have a certain mood when I'm town or scum? That's wrong cause that's what makes me hard to read
Changing your tone is so fucking simple
that you can do it by changing each sentence to fit something
...or by using little sayings to fix it I guess
But please fire-kun what am I playing?
No? I know you play both games with a fluid tone, I am just wondering if all your play is mood based so far or if you have other reasons for being so into the game. And I assume everything so far than is NAI if you are telling me its just all the mood.
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Post Post #408 (isolation #27) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:37 pm

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In post 403, Chara wrote:relevant to this game isn't great.
Thats me. Not great the definition when looked up shows my face.

Why do you think Taly when he reads the posts gives questions that have answers in them. Like, no reading between lines alot. Its reading surface content as though not actually reading it. What am I missing here?
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Post Post #410 (isolation #28) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:38 pm

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In post 400, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 392, Chara wrote:also, by claiming the exact parameters of your BP, it's now useless.
i don't really get why you did except to not be ranked the lowest.
Because my Bp is based on my positive ranking, which is not likely at this point. Ascetics are almost always anti-town (which I claimed earlier), so I thought I would claim.

Explain the scum reasoning for doing what I have done.
I think Chara point is that its anti town. I believe its not really done scummy either.
Mind answering my question on Espeonage?
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Post Post #416 (isolation #29) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:42 pm

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In post 414, Chara wrote:
In post 408, Fire Assassin wrote:Why do you think Taly when he reads the posts gives questions that have answers in them. Like, no reading between lines alot. Its reading surface content as though not actually reading it. What am I missing here?
it doesn't look like he's faking content, it looks like reading between the lines isn't something Taly does while being Taly.
it's like the name-bolding thing. one of his quirks.

that and getting excited and continuing to post/trying to curb his own posting. he knows he tends to post more than he might want to.

i am interested in why he's now locktown to worst, though.
What content specifically looks like it can't be faked to you?
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Post Post #418 (isolation #30) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:43 pm

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In post 412, Srceenplay wrote:You guys blown the thread up during my drive today.

Probably to tired to read and absorb anything.

Do we all want to post how we are voting before end of day?
It might help us figure out who is getting offed at night before it happens.
Yes, we should all post our rankings before EOD.

I am right now with Chara and the worst getting 10s and Espeonage and Taly with 0
MariaR at a 5.

Unsure where to put everyone else.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #31) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:45 pm

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Hey Espeonage, you "scumread" me. Why have you only been making comments to other people about scumreading me but not engaging with me? Or even addressing my scumcase on you.
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Post Post #424 (isolation #32) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:47 pm

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In post 419, Chara wrote:everything can be faked to an extent. i haven't locktowned him, either.
but asking obvious questions isn't a scumtell for Taly from what i know of him.
when i said "it doesn't look like he's faking", i meant it as a counter to what i assume was your point, that being that Taly's questions were fake.
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Post Post #428 (isolation #33) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:49 pm

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In post 423, MariaR wrote:Claim doesn't =ali
look fhr the way they claimed that's what's important not the claim itself.
Also I hope I'm not the only one openly lying about rankings here
Why would you tell us your lying about rankings and hoping people are lying MariaR lol.
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Post Post #435 (isolation #34) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:53 pm

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How can I convince you all that Espeonage is scum and needs 0s?
Ill take a 0 if thats what it takes.
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Post Post #439 (isolation #35) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:55 pm

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In post 437, MariaR wrote:
In post 435, Fire Assassin wrote:How can I convince you all that Espeonage is scum and needs 0s?
Ill take a 0 if thats what it takes.
Fake.

Anyway going to bed
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Post Post #442 (isolation #36) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:57 pm

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Slight scum read huh. Thats interesting. Don't want to commit now?
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Post Post #446 (isolation #37) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:02 pm

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In post 440, Chara wrote:Fire, your problem with Taly is he's asking surface-level questions he should know the answer to. my answer is i've seen Taly ask more questions than necessary as town so it isn't going into my read of him. what's the problem?

pedit: obvious, but i agree with Brawl. was scumreading Penguin before the claim. even if i entirely disregard it, i still scumread him.
Just that you told me you saw genuine posts by him and than I ask you for them and you tell me that "anything can be faked" was mildly annoying to tell you the truth.
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Post Post #447 (isolation #38) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:04 pm

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In post 444, Espeonage wrote:
In post 442, Fire Assassin wrote:Slight scum read huh. Thats interesting. Don't want to commit now?
I literally said this a few pages ago. -.-
I missed that, what changed specifically?
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Post Post #449 (isolation #39) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:09 pm

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Where is the worst?
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Post Post #453 (isolation #40) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:13 pm

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Thank you brawlguy.
I feel like I should have things I want to talk to you about, but I really don't right now.
I guess I can tell you I am not sure I agree with your analysis of Penguin but I don't have any strong reasons why just feelings of uncertainty about it.
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Post Post #455 (isolation #41) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:13 pm

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In post 452, Chara wrote:also Brawl is getting a 10 and i'll fight you all on that. i'll sit on the exact why until the morning because i'm passing out and also because nobody can stop me.
I am coming over there and stopping you. We will go watch yugioh or something.
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Post Post #457 (isolation #42) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:16 pm

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In post 451, Espeonage wrote:uhhh time. Like that read was from early early game. And sure it's still there but hanging on to something with vehemence is pretty straight up wrong.

Like you are getting a zero from me regardless of anything given my role. (Ok an innocent child or something would change that but w/e)

But I'm not going to yell everyone should scumread you. I have more townreads than scum reads at this point which is kinda enough on day 1 with this mechanic no?
Why is that straight up wrong?

Are you giving me a zero because of your role?

Is the last part supposed to mean you don't care about sorting me?
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Post Post #495 (isolation #43) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:59 am

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ummm I am not okay with this?
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Post Post #773 (isolation #44) » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:54 am

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I basically don’t have energy to put a lot of effort at this moment in this game.
Mostly because work, other games and getting into games as I do I become very frustrated.
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Post Post #835 (isolation #45) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:09 pm

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I have results from previous night, but i won't post till everyones checked in.
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Post Post #839 (isolation #46) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:11 pm

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In post 836, Espeonage wrote:I can tell you people like you more than Vax.
Is this important in anyway?
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Post Post #840 (isolation #47) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:13 pm

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ehBrawlGuy - 8
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Post Post #843 (isolation #48) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:14 pm

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In post 841, Espeonage wrote:Mechanically it makes you more likely to be scum than Vax. And I am pretty much certain Dunn is town at this point.
Thats not how any of this works.
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Post Post #845 (isolation #49) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:17 pm

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Do you have anything that you think is worth talking about in regards to scores you are seeing?
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Post Post #857 (isolation #50) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:28 pm

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In post 852, Espeonage wrote:
In post 843, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 841, Espeonage wrote:Mechanically it makes you more likely to be scum than Vax. And I am pretty much certain Dunn is town at this point.
Thats not how any of this works.
Ok so are you arguing there isn't scum in the four of us, because that is what this sounds like?
No, I am saying your logic doesn't make sense.

There being scum in any group of 4 is decent enough, but the reasoning you put foreward isn't a design approach look at how people create roles/alignments.

We could be all town, I doubt that heavily cause I don't think you are town at all.
And I think this whole reasoning you are giving for townreading dunnstral, and scumreading me is mostly baloney.
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Post Post #859 (isolation #51) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:30 pm

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In post 856, the worst wrote:and Fire why Taly so low and me so low?
Cause I don't townread Taly. I explained it quite a bit, and while people gave counter points to every point I made, I still felt wasn't compelling to ignore my gut.

You, aren't a low score? I felt other people were more townie later in the day to get a better score than you.
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Post Post #864 (isolation #52) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:35 pm

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In post 860, DeasVail wrote:For now I'm going to go with:

VOTE: Espeonage

actually.

I'll be back later
Ill jump on this gladly.
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Post Post #865 (isolation #53) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:35 pm

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In post 863, the worst wrote:eh w/e I expected a higher score from you given you were literally spewing towncred into my mouth at SOD. Still your higher scores are on a few of my highest townreads so idrk how to progress this
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Post Post #867 (isolation #54) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:38 pm

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Where were you?
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Post Post #984 (isolation #55) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:51 pm

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I have a cop guilty on Espeonage.
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Post Post #986 (isolation #56) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:52 pm

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I said I had a result in my first post and wanted to wait.
Did you read?
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Post Post #989 (isolation #57) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:54 pm

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Why did you vote me when I said I had a result and start this bad wagon on me?
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Also the worst has flipped scum for jumping on me so quick.
That was bad.
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Post Post #1139 (isolation #59) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:06 pm

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In post 1131, Espeonage wrote:Ok but look at the trajectory of the game. There was no real voice saying that we were all town until you just now. And me v Fire has been going since day 1.
Which is why I checked you
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Post Post #1142 (isolation #60) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:07 pm

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In post 1105, Espeonage wrote:Ok because I am town.

But if shenanigans happened with an investigative he could theoretically not be fake claiming.

He was scum from the start anyway though.
Not doubting the claim but is looking for any possible out here
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Post Post #1144 (isolation #61) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:11 pm

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Hey Dunn why do you repeating stuff Espeonage says in regards to the mechanical scumread
I know you aren’t bad with game design so why are you repeating it like he is making sense with any of that?
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Post Post #1145 (isolation #62) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:12 pm

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In post 1143, Espeonage wrote:
In post 1142, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 1105, Espeonage wrote:Ok because I am town.

But if shenanigans happened with an investigative he could theoretically not be fake claiming.

He was scum from the start anyway though.
Not doubting the claim but is looking for any possible out here
There is a reason for this.

Because, I want a full claim from you.

There is a way for you to have a false guilty on me. And I want to hear it from you that you are lying by omission or just lying.
And what gives you this idea
Why don’t you full claim first?
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Post Post #1147 (isolation #63) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:22 pm

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I am a ranking cop. (With a certain amount of shots I won’t disclose)
Based on my rank the results I get are dependent on.

If I rank higher than the person I am checking I will get the results I should get if I was a normal cop
For example I check a Town night one and I rank higher than them then I will get “not mafia”
If I am lower I get the opposite of what I should get
In same example I would get “Mafia”
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Post Post #1153 (isolation #64) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:31 pm

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Is this the hill you want to die on?
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Post Post #1155 (isolation #65) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:34 pm

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In post 1151, Espeonage wrote:Also what the fuck kind of role is that when there is someone who needs you to rank lowly for their role too.
Sounds like a balancing tool to ensure my results won’t always be accurate
For example if I told everyone day one to give me a high ranking because role reasons and got everyone to agree the other part of my role wouldn’t matter.

Going to try arguing against that?
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Post Post #1160 (isolation #66) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:39 pm

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In post 1156, TehBrawlGuy wrote:espe where is your fullclaim I can't find it
He didn't fullclaim.
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Post Post #1163 (isolation #67) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:40 pm

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is that your full role?
nothing else?
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Post Post #1166 (isolation #68) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:44 pm

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Hey dunnstral, I asked you a question.
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Post Post #1170 (isolation #69) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:52 pm

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In post 1167, Dunnstral wrote:I believed that there was scum in our four, yes, I thought it was vax day 1, I thoguht it was you day 2

Anyways, if espeonage ends up being scum then I'm pretty much confirmed town because his role includes a vig that can only target me and there's serious setup shenanigans if we were both scum
This just seems like weak reasoning to townread/scumread people, and its like moon logic that Titus would use in a 4 player neighborhood scenario.
Like take these roles and replace them with a neighborhood and you would be chanting that one of the people has to be scum.

And theres been games with 4 town neighborhoods and 4 scum neighborhoods. Its all mod WIFOM. Unless you want to now go into EP mod meta, this isn't useful thinking nor accurate in anyway.

So is there game reasons for thinking any of these alignments are true, because I think gameplay wise, I have good reasons to think Espe is scum, and this isn't even considering my own role. Which I am sure makes him confirmed scum now.
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Post Post #1173 (isolation #70) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:56 pm

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In post 1171, Taly wrote:ugh, damnit. -_-

Fire
has 67 points to divide from.
Espe
has 69 points to divide from.

so we need screens rankings to decipher if the result was truthful or not.

but i do think
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my own calculations has something different than this.
Also I don't think screenplay submitted
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Post Post #1180 (isolation #71) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:04 pm

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UNVOTE:

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Post Post #1182 (isolation #72) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:06 pm

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Of course NicoRobin, the fucking horrible player that she can even calls herself.
Never plays the game, never tries.

Fucks my role my hard.

I am so angry. Both at her and myself for not seeing that.
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Post Post #1183 (isolation #73) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:07 pm

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Did anyone lie about what they ranked everyone?
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Post Post #1187 (isolation #74) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:08 pm

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I don't believe that Espeonage is town here.
Like I am ready to ignore the data in front of me here rn.
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Post Post #1191 (isolation #75) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:10 pm

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VOTE: Dunnstral
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Post Post #1198 (isolation #76) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:14 pm

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In post 1194, the worst wrote:hold on why do you still not think Espe is town?
but you're not voting him?
why are you voting Dunn?
I am sorting my thoughts and this makes the most sense at this moment.
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Post Post #1201 (isolation #77) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:18 pm

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In post 1190, Espeonage wrote:
In post 1187, Fire Assassin wrote:I don't believe that Espeonage is town here.
Like I am ready to ignore the data in front of me here rn.
Mate I am gonna laugh so hard if you fucked up a fake guilty because you didn't read the thread properly. Because honestly that would be the icing on the cake for your shithouse tirade.
If I was fakeclaiming, why wouldn't i just say I was a regular cop? huh dumbass
In post 1193, Espeonage wrote:
In post 1191, Fire Assassin wrote:VOTE: Dunnstral
No fuck off. He's town. He could have killed me.
you aren't worth killing if you can be lynched.
In post 1195, Espeonage wrote:Scratch that.

Dunn had TWO chances to kill me and took neither of them. Dunn is confirmed town.
see my previous point
In post 1196, Espeonage wrote:
In post 1194, the worst wrote:hold on why do you still not think Espe is town?
but you're not voting him?
why are you voting Dunn?
Because the entire thing was fake and he didn't read end of night. Like a fucking chump.
So i both faked something and didn't read? make sense of that, champ.
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Post Post #1205 (isolation #78) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:20 pm

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In post 1177, MariaR wrote:VOTE: fire
My invest was a cop as well I don't think we have 2 cops
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Post Post #1207 (isolation #79) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:22 pm

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In post 1206, Espeonage wrote:@1201:
1. Maria
2. He would have backed himself in to a corner where he is trying to get me lynched without ever voting me. Fucking stupid play, so gtfo.
4. It's called a mistake, people make them. I commend your effort.
1. Maria isn't a cop.
2. He doesn't need to vote you, your scummy play would get you lynched.
4. yeah I made a mistake with interpreting my results it seems, but i can't commend your logic here at all. Its nonsensical.
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Post Post #1214 (isolation #80) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:38 pm

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In post 1212, MariaR wrote:
In post 1205, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 1177, MariaR wrote:VOTE: fire
My invest was a cop as well I don't think we have 2 cops
Stop fake claiming.
I'm not fake claiming
In post 1213, MariaR wrote:I have 0 reason to fake claim this
I will 1v1 you if you continue this.
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Post Post #1217 (isolation #81) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:44 pm

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my ranking relative to espeonage, i thought given the ranks people gave. I was higher than him.
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Post Post #1361 (isolation #82) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:58 am

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I want to lynch Dunnstral than Maria.
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Post Post #1362 (isolation #83) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:00 pm

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In post 1301, Punreader wrote:
In post 840, Fire Assassin wrote:Dunnstral - 4
Pine - 4
PenguinPower - 4
Fire Assassin:
Your list contains three fours, and only one five; as per the rankings, we are to give out two fives and two fours. Which of your fours is actually a five? Do you know? If not, can you ask the mod?
I sent that to EP and wasn't told of any issues.
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Post Post #1364 (isolation #84) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:01 pm

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In post 1315, DeasVail wrote:Town

Taly
Dunnstral
Fire Assassin
Vaxkiller
Espeonage (I'm worried about missing something here but the reality is that he's probably town)

[Gap]

TehBrawlGuy
Punreader
the worst

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Chara
Screenplay

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Shoshin
Nahdia
MariaR
PenguinPower

Scum

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That's a rough idea of my reads right now I think.

There are probably things about it that are not quite right, but I don't really see much reason to townread the people in the last group at this point.
What are you townreading Dunnstral for?
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Post Post #1365 (isolation #85) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:01 pm

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In post 1363, MariaR wrote:
In post 1361, Fire Assassin wrote:I want to lynch Dunnstral than Maria.
Laughed
I am not.
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Post Post #1367 (isolation #86) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:03 pm

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I don't think Taly is scum anymore.
The worst probably is though.
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Post Post #1369 (isolation #87) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:05 pm

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[Dunnstral, Maria, The Worst, ~Espeonage~(i am not taking him off my scum list regardless of my result)] == Scum Team
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Post Post #1370 (isolation #88) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:06 pm

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maybe Nahdia too.
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Post Post #1371 (isolation #89) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:07 pm

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In post 1355, MariaR wrote:Nahdia Sho Deas Fire PP deaths prob win us the game anyway
Okay not Nahdia
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #90) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:08 pm

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Chara, should I be townreading you?
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Post Post #1374 (isolation #91) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:11 pm

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why are you connected to Maria?
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Post Post #1376 (isolation #92) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:16 pm

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and I am not a friend that you love?
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Post Post #1603 (isolation #93) » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:53 pm

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VOTE: Penguin Power
Don't even think this is scum.

I am just super lazy about this game right now.
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Post Post #1693 (isolation #94) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:27 am

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In post 1689, Shoshin wrote:But then Fire claims and he's scum because there can't be two cops? I thought claims weren't AI... I thought Maria was open to crazy setup stuff... but nah, guess not.

It doesn't square.
She is also lying about her claim.
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Post Post #1694 (isolation #95) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:32 am

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In post 1682, Taly wrote:I'm highly suspect of Fire at this point
Interesting change of pace.
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Post Post #1705 (isolation #96) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:21 am

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In post 1699, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 672, Pine wrote:Protected from people below them, kills people ranked higher. That screams “self-aligned” to me.

I’m not opposed to leashing it.
This is the only thing close to a read I could find in Pine’s ISO.

I could buy scum and Punreader shooting this.

Especially if SK.

I also find that with everyone giving their reads list Fire’s claim seems possible and now need to look at Maria’s. Fire still gives me the heebie jeebies of reaper influence though.
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Post Post #1876 (isolation #97) » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:50 am

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I am this close to spamming the hell out of this thread, just because of EP prodding me
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Post Post #1879 (isolation #98) » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:09 am

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Yes do that thing
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Post Post #1938 (isolation #99) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:58 am

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Hello everyone.

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Post Post #1939 (isolation #100) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:00 am

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Dunnstral is town btw.
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Post Post #2303 (isolation #101) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:03 am

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No, that isn't correct.

Also i really don't feel like going into this game alot.

Espeonage and Dunnstral are town. Lynch me if you want.

If MariaR is still alive at LYLO lynch her with no questions.
No way she lives till then being a cop.
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Post Post #2379 (isolation #102) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:48 pm

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If we aren't lynching me today.

Everyone should vote for who they want me to check, because I am so checked out of this game right now I am just volunteering my powers to the crowd.
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Post Post #2380 (isolation #103) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:48 pm

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Right now I want to check MariaR
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Post Post #2382 (isolation #104) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:57 pm

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Why wouldn't I be?
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Post Post #2385 (isolation #105) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:02 pm

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You don't get to setup spec considering your track record of setup spec mathblade.
You have always gotten the setup spec wrong.

Funny part is, I semi agree with you, but I think maria has just been lying this whole time and the fact she continued to lie about it afterwards has made me think she is scum, but maybe I am wrong.
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Post Post #2388 (isolation #106) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:06 pm

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In post 2384, Espeonage wrote:You say you check me, when I go this is fucking bullshit and Maria goes I'm a cop too you add a thing to your role. Ohey turns out you fucked up.

People buy it though.

Then we get to today and you cop the fucking guy that your innocent result says is fucking town for role related reasons coupled with day play.

And now you are possibly avoiding the lynch so instead of potentially fucking up again you go lets all pick who I investigate, because that way no one will question my target like they did today and I was lucky as fuck to not get lynched for that.

This is ridiculous how people aren't seeing this.
A) I addressed your first point no reason to address it again unless you want me to quote again how me missing relevant in game information isn't same as lying. If I was lying I could have missed that also but the fact you think its inherently a scum move is just bias.

granted I still didn't want to think you were scum after I had to admit the information in front of me, so you doubling down shouldn't be a surprise.
B) I checked dunnstral because of day play, not your role stuff you wanted to clear him on which i still agree is just bad thinking from just how a setup is designed.

and finally
C) I am literally to lazy to pick someone to cop. If you think i am scum lying, why not get me to give you a result on someone you think is my partner?
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Post Post #2390 (isolation #107) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:09 pm

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In post 2387, Espeonage wrote:Ok, lets go down that road.

Shep, name someone that has argued to fuck with you about setup spec in game and tells you forthright when you are wrong. Because that would describe me.

And if me and math are agreeing that your shit makes no sense from a setup standpoint, that means something is fucked up.
That logic doesn't even hold any water under scrutiny.
if you say because you both don't agree on a lot of setup spec but you both agree on one thing that doesn't mean you are both right about that thing.

if x disagrees with y on what a apple is
and x agrees with y on what is a orange
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Post Post #2511 (isolation #108) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:40 am

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In post 2509, guacamole wrote:Can we lynch Fire Assassin? I read that iso and don't think it's coming from town.
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Post Post #2512 (isolation #109) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:41 am

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I prefer me cop checking Maria than lynching her today.
Commander Shepherd is my pref lynch here.
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Post Post #2687 (isolation #110) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:15 pm

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Did I miss a night?
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Post Post #2688 (isolation #111) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:17 pm

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In post 2584, Errantparabola wrote:
T-BoneWelcome, MariaR.

You're a Bidoof, one of the most fearsome and strong Pokemon in the entire Sinnoh region.
You are
T-Bone
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Jack of all Trades
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Image
Alignment: Town
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Active: Moody
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Your stats change unpredictably...
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(+ATK -SPD)
Target someone to be informed of whether or not they are mafia, and do nothing the next Night Phase.

(+DEF -SP. DEF)
Make yourself bulletproof for this Night Phase and make yourself Hated (one less vote to lynch you) for the next Day Phase.

(+HP -SP. ATK)
Protect someone from the first kill this Night Phase and make yourself Voteless for the next Day Phase.


Passive: EXP Points
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To the victor go the spoils.
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9. MariaR
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Post Post #2689 (isolation #112) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:17 pm

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I am shocked.

I didn't even get my night action in.
I am so out of this game.
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Post Post #2690 (isolation #113) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:19 pm

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In post 2637, Punreader wrote:Just to put it on the record:
Since I know Fire Assassin is ranked lower than me, if we don't lynch him, I'm shooting him.
But we should just be lynching him.

In the event we do lynch him, I am not nightkilling either of guacamole or Vaxkiller tonight. (As I have strong reason to believe Vaxkiller is town, I will not shoot him. While guacamole has a chance at being pun, and has been a punread of mine the whole game, I've since come to doubt that read and feel it was wrong.)
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Post Post #2691 (isolation #114) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:19 pm

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In post 2685, Espeonage wrote:I feel so confident in the next few days worth of lynches once we flip fire.
Your deathtunnel since Day 1 has been noted several times buddy
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Post Post #2692 (isolation #115) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:22 pm

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VOTE: Commander Shepherd
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