Turn of Camn ~FIN~

Aristophanes · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:24 am

/Confirm!!!!

I am so excited! =D

Aristophanes · Post Post #27 (isolation #1) » Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:12 am

Which guard am I? I need to know where to vote XD

Aristophanes · Post Post #33 (isolation #2) » Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:21 am

I'm going to assume 2/3 scum are from the prein list. He would want to be sure his preferred team is invited!

Aristophanes · Post Post #34 (isolation #3) » Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:22 am

In post 30, Mathdino wrote:
In post 27, Aristophanes wrote:Which guard am I? I need to know where to vote XD
yeah this is problematic

i'm old guard by 2018 standards but the Older Old Guard keeps tunneling my towngame so i think i'm defecting to new guard

See, this is my problem!

Thanks for sorting it for me FB!

Aristophanes · Post Post #628 (isolation #4) » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:17 pm

Oh my god, this opened 9 hours ago and we have 25 pages!?!?

Fuuuuuck!

I just git diuble ninja'd writing this.
God damn!

Aristophanes · Post Post #769 (isolation #5) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:50 am

Okay, let's see about catching up here! =D

Aristophanes · Post Post #811 (isolation #6) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:30 am

"He's just a poor Bee from a poor colony!
Spare him his live or you'll face Alisae!" XD
Poor Beeboy

Mastina, WTF is 46??? Insta scumread, so thanks for that!

If i can sort you this quickly this game is ez money!

In post 50, Mulch wrote:NOTE:
I talked to alisae and, unbeknownst to me, at least before we talked, alisae ASSIGNED the town people’s roles. For example, I’m a role that fits me really well. This was really easy to miss in the rules, so realize that roles are NOT random, and that we can townfirm people (at least some) by how well their role fits their personality

Well then I am confused.
What prompted you to ask this btw?

In post 51, Centipede Syndrome wrote:no dayending actions without our permission etc etc

I'm not getting fucked by d1 ending before we're ready and then getting nked

LAMIST right off the bat, eh?
Why do you think, in a game with players of this caliber, that the day will end prematurely or that you are the designated NK? Rather presumptuous if you ask me.

In post 53, mastina wrote:
These players are not mastina's scumbuddies:

Centipede Syndrome (Ellibereth + Chara)
Northsidegal
Aristophanes
kuuhaku (Kiana Kaslana + Shiro)

These are players who it's hard to tell:

Mathdino
shos
BBmolla
DrippingGoofball
Firebringer
MariaR
Mulch
xRECKONERx

The following contain mastina's scumbuddies she'll distance but not bus:

Parama
Implosion
Lady Lambdadelta
Ginngie

I bet there's a ninjascum in the top category!
The last one seems right though. Probably 1-2 scum.

You shouldn't make this so easy Mastina! XD

In post 58, MariaR wrote:Don't worry Camn-san I'll protect anyone who tries to harm you they won't lay a finger on you while I'm around aha~
All foes of Camn and allies of pine I will make sure meet a swift end

Kiana's opening post is town she can help me protect Camn-san
VOTE: LLD

Lmao I love this! <3

New post because wall already I think...
I'll quote less as the game gets going. I always do!

Ninja'd
Fucck off Reck! XD

Aristophanes · Post Post #842 (isolation #7) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:36 am

In post 833, northsidegal wrote:so who's excited for mastina's 20+ page catchup?

Oh god, this will ve something! I know I'm wordy, and even I dread this a bit

In post 835, Mathdino wrote:
In post 833, northsidegal wrote:so who's excited for mastina's 20+ page catchup?
Can ellibereth solve the game before this happens so we can just speedlynch mastina

Uhh, so is this a scumread or a "stfu mastina" read?
Because...

In post 836, Mathdino wrote:
In post 46, mastina wrote:Hey.
VOTE: mastina.
Dead serious here.
I'm entering in a 1v1 with mastina.

Like. If she flips town POWER lynch me here.

I was informed that role assignment wasn't random this game.
Pine knows me to be a stellar scum player and not quite as strong a town player, yet I wasn't one of his picks for the scumteam.
But unless I massively misunderstood the game's nature: Pine did in fact get a choice in at least ONE scumbuddy, if not all three. (Something about a draft order.)
He didn't select me.

I refuse to believe he allowed both me and mastina to be town.
So lynch me, lynch mastina, doesn't matter who you lynch first but mastina is scum.
Guaranteed.
Goodposting

This implies a townread.
Also I disagree that this is goodposting. What makes you say it is?

Aristophanes · Post Post #845 (isolation #8) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:37 am

Oh, ninja's answered me. I see.

Aristophanes · Post Post #909 (isolation #9) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:07 pm

In post 901, xRECKONERx wrote:no comment

Savage! XD

Aristophanes · Post Post #997 (isolation #10) » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:04 am

In post 78, MariaR wrote:
Hey everyone! Hey hey!
I think LLD would flip scum for sure! She's a decent scum player and Pine would prob pick her and Ali wouldn't pick a town LLD because we'd prob want to lynch her if anything she'd prob be one of the last picks and I could see Pine picking LLD trusting her scum skills!
This is gotta be scum ahahaha~

Interesting theory. I'm trying to refrain from guessing scum via draft though! Otherwise Mastina/Ginngie/someone old school like DGB would be my guesses. Gotta go by play tho!

Oh good, I'm in more of a reading, less of a responding mood today! That means I'll make even more progress!

Apparently that was a lie

In post 102, northsidegal wrote:people claiming scum,
yawn

Yeah, it's great isn't it! XD
What do you think of mastina and Fire's claims to be scum?

In post 107, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 102, northsidegal wrote:people claiming scum,
yawn
this post + miller claim => lynch this player before lylo always.

Thanks in advance.

LLD, why!?
I think the role distribution giving them miller makes a tonne of sense! Do you have any experience with NSG? They obvtown really easily!
Also, hi! It's been a while, I'm glad you're still around though!

In post 115, Centipede Syndrome wrote:i'm serious about us being nightkilled first.

You never answered me why you think this btw... :poutyface:

In post 116, mastina wrote:
In post 98, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I already hate this.
Then lynch her. I'll back you up on it, even.

And then lynch Ginngie after that because Ginngie's 100% scum regardless of mastina's alignment but definitely if mastina were to for some ungodly reason flip town.

Dammit mastina! Why must you make such compelling posts! Like, I already think the two of you are prime draft candidates for scum!

Aristophanes · Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:27 am

Okay, at this rate I'm never catching up...

I'm going to read the last ~10 pages and get myself settled in here! If I need anything from the missing bits it should come out in Isos

Let's do this!!!

Aristophanes · Post Post #1350 (isolation #12) » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:32 pm

In post 975, Firebringer wrote:How do I get more people to vote scumstina?

Do I like need to hold a raffle and give away a chance of winning a new car by voting mastina?

Starting at page 40 and this is the first post. I mean, I'll enter that raffle if you do! =D

Wtf is 935!?
I have never seen mastina play like this. I don't know if scum her would stray this far from reason though!

In post 978, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 954, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Reck is 100% town.
dont do this to me again babe

Reck, what do you mean by this and why?

In post 982, Mathdino wrote:i'm pretty sure i don't need to say this but claim + non-random alignments + early play + this post alone make NSG 100% town

I don't disagree, but what do you read as conftowning them in this post? NSG is certainly ton, but what about this one in particular screams this to you?

In post 990, Kuuhaku wrote:Guys hear me out, we all really don't townread Parama from my understanding yet nobody but me actually votes him.

He has been active without really having said anything of substance. This truly seems like someone feigning activity in order to not draw attention for either lurking or doing something wrong.

The mastina/gigngie thing will solve by itself, if anything fire will solve it at night.

It is a distraction right now that had dominated most of the game. Let it go.

~Shiro

Shiro!!! Hi! =D
Has Parama been scummy or just not towny?

Apparently a post a page. Uggh!

Aristophanes · Post Post #1356 (isolation #13) » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:50 pm

In post 1355, Centipede Syndrome wrote:Also we're under 24 hours boyz.

We have almost 11 days wtf are you on about??

Aristophanes · Post Post #1360 (isolation #14) » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:51 pm

In post 1004, Pine wrote:Well, that would be telling!

I actually love you Pine <3

1006 is really meh...
If this is a defense for being scum it's really poor!
Wht gives Parama??

In post 1008, Parama wrote:your post : actual content ratio is even lower than mine so i don't know what you're talking about, fire

I don't see how attacking someone who is trying here is productive...noted though!

In post 1023, Mulch wrote:Mastina is either scum that is being HARD, hard bussed, an endgame setup bus, or they’re town

This can prolly be said about any wagon tho...

Aristophanes · Post Post #1370 (isolation #15) » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:30 pm

In post 1367, Madoka and Homura wrote:I'm not even a madoka fan.

Aristophanes · Post Post #1385 (isolation #16) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:17 am

In post 1384, Madoka and Homura wrote:But I don't believe in monarchy.

If anything it's a constitutional monarchy which I can totally support!

Plus, if Camn says so, I'm in! =D

Aristophanes · Post Post #1511 (isolation #17) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:15 pm

This catchup isn't working. We still sheeping Mulch, camn?

Aristophanes · Post Post #1513 (isolation #18) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:20 pm

In post 1512, Pine wrote:No, we're sheeping Ellibereth.

Shut up you! I'm asking town! XD

Aristophanes · Post Post #1734 (isolation #19) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:17 pm

I guess this is where I check in?

I'm all for a fast day!

VOTE: Briian Skies

Aristophanes · Post Post #1746 (isolation #20) » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:48 pm

Dammit FB!

Okay what are we doing today? Implo right?
VOTE: Implo =D

Aristophanes · Post Post #1749 (isolation #21) » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:01 pm

In post 1748, Pine wrote:VOTE: MariaR

Conftown

Wow!

Thanks for that Pine!

You are so helpful!

Aristophanes · Post Post #1763 (isolation #22) » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:12 pm

In post 1762, Ginngie wrote:
In post 1761, camn wrote:I tried to save you firebringer.....by naming you as my 4th Lynch
guilty conscious

camn is scum

Kill it with Fire!!!

Aristophanes · Post Post #1764 (isolation #23) » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:12 pm

Wait, Fire is dead! We can't kill camn then! :O

Aristophanes · Post Post #1901 (isolation #24) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:21 am

In post 1877, Madoka and Homura wrote:Ginngie - town
shos
DrippingGoofball
Aristophanes - town
BBmolla
Lady Lambdadelta - town
Keychain
MariaR - town
Madoka and Homura (GuyInFreezer + Shiro)
Mulch - town
Northsidegal - town

As long as those labelled town here is correct, we win even if we trade 1:1 every time.

This list is solid!

I'm not voting DGB because we need the day to be longer than the last ones and the claim is intriguing! We are sitting pretty though! =D
I don't know how Elli did it but well done!

Are we going to bother with a Pine lynch?
That sounds like fun, but also useless.

Aristophanes · Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:14 am

In post 1919, BBmolla wrote:Townreads on Ari need to be explained, Ari has done nothing but been pleasantly about this whole game and I could easily see Ari do that as scum

Nah, I didn't get a chance D1 and we've sped through the rest! Whrn I get home I'm gonna di some Isos of those questionmarks in Elli's reads and hopefully we can make it a perfect win!

Aristophanes · Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:02 am

In post 1930, Keychain wrote:
In post 1921, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1919, BBmolla wrote:Townreads on Ari need to be explained, Ari has done nothing but been pleasantly about this whole game and I could easily see Ari do that as scum
Nah, I didn't get a chance D1 and we've sped through the rest! Whrn I get home I'm gonna di some Isos of those questionmarks in Elli's reads and hopefully we can make it a perfect win!
Ari - would you be able to give some real quick, top of your head, off the cuff reads on your fellow question marks? Or just put them in order from most likely town to scum.

Sure!

Shos - I don't remember any of his posts and actually thought he was a replace in! This one requires an Iso to actually have a read on.

Dgb - Voting Pine is Wack but the claim sounds legit. For the moment I want them alive for it and it's not like we have a shortage if lynches!

Homura - The towniest of the list! I <3 these guys

Keychain - I don't see why people are saying youre top scum candidate but I'll look into it! I assume associatives with dead scum will help a lot here! At least youre asking me questions tho!

BBmolla - Iunno call it Omgus but they keep throwing subtle shade and doubt my way and that's kinda shifty if you ask me! Would once again need to Iso but this feels like a possible scum!

Aristophanes · Post Post #1934 (isolation #27) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:12 am

In post 1933, Madoka and Homura wrote:Ari it actually has to do with the predescessor on the slot Prama

~Madoka

Oh! Okay!!

I'll Iso them together then!

Aristophanes · Post Post #1938 (isolation #28) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:27 am

In post 1935, DrippingGoofball wrote:This thread is missing possibly pointless Pine votes.

It's literally not even moving your vote to an unvote...

Why are you still on this?

Aristophanes · Post Post #1940 (isolation #29) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:40 am

In post 1939, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1938, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1935, DrippingGoofball wrote:This thread is missing possibly pointless Pine votes.
It's literally not even moving your vote to an unvote...

Why are you still on this?
I got nothing else as to why I'm paranoid because of his presence in the game. If you have a better theory, by all means, let's hear it.

I don't know, have you tried invetigating him or camn?

Maybe checking him will do spmething by looking fear in the eyes and overcoming it! Maybe investigating camn will inspire you to not be afraid!

But this vote isn't doing anything but clutter the thread and it's getting a little annoying.

Aristophanes · Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:02 am

In post 1948, shos wrote:
In post 1932, Aristophanes wrote:Shos - I don't remember any of his posts and actually thought he was a replace in! This one requires an Iso to actually have a read on.
Lol
Please entertain me with your results

Also have you even read my posts?

Ive read this one and the zillion townies

I probably have read others I have no memory of though! XD

Aristophanes · Post Post #2019 (isolation #31) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:19 am

In post 2018, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Oh.

Godfather + Paranoid cop. How does that interact...

Paranoid Cop always gets a guilty regardless of the other player's role, so I would give a guilty if I were the mod.
However, I could see the argument that Godfather overrides that and gives an Inno, which may be the condition Alisae was talking about!

@Alisae
In theory, if a Paranoid Cop investigates a Godfather, would they get an Innocent or a Guilty result, assuming no other roles or modifiers interfered?

Aristophanes · Post Post #2061 (isolation #32) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:57 pm

Guys I don't know if they're keeping me here and I don't know if I can do anything tn.

I have the tabs open to Iso the question marks but I can't right now

I'm really sorry.
For all of this.

Aristophanes · Post Post #2068 (isolation #33) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:03 am

Yeah actually this is really depressing.

V/LA until Sunday

I'll try to do things before then and I hope this is figured out well before then, but we'll see.

Aristophanes · Post Post #2340 (isolation #34) » Wed May 02, 2018 9:45 am

In post 2334, shos wrote:
In post 2323, Ginngie wrote:So I think I just aced my Calc 2 exam
AND I GOT A 96 ON MY THESIS EXAM!!!!

YEAH BABE

physics M.Sc. here officially

Fantastic!
Congrats to you both! =D

I'm back to a good place so I'll be looking at this today/tomorrow. Going to see if I can find the final scum by dead associatives from d1. I'm sure there's something there

Aristophanes · Post Post #2351 (isolation #35) » Thu May 03, 2018 4:11 am

In post 2350, Alisae wrote:I’ve broke a keyboard before!

Apparently It's a more common issue on this site than you would think! XD

Aristophanes · Post Post #2367 (isolation #36) » Thu May 03, 2018 4:05 pm

In post 375, implosion wrote:{
mastina
, ginngie, bbmolla, nsg,
mathdino
,
parama
[keychain], mulch}

Interesting quote. I don't think he would put all three of his scumbuddies on the list, just a mafia theory thing, and none of the rest have flipped. If we take this and cross it with

In post 1829, Ginngie wrote:Town: Ginngie, Mulch, LLD, NSG,
Maria
, Ari, BB

Who left:
shos
,
DGB
, Keychain
Madoka

and it leaves us DGB and Shos as the question marks that likely contain the last scum.

In post 891, implosion wrote:
In post 872, Mulch wrote:I'm pretty much in my town meta.
Camn
is town.
Math
, ari, and
mastina
are solidly in their town meta, although I'm having some reservations about
Math
because I know he's a capable scum player. But there have been a few subtle things here that are making me read him town.
MariaR
,
kuuhaku
,
Firebringer
, and
Implosion
are also solid meta town treads. Same with northsidegal, although not as confident. And I really like
Centipede's
last post, but not going to lock them town yet.
I agree with basically this entire list sans maria. My poe pool is actually really small right now that I count the people in it (
reck
,
shos
,
dgb
, lld,
maria
).

I'm certainly wrong somewhere but alas.

Implo is really jazzed about the list Mulch presented, which makes sense! He seemed to townread most of the scumteam!
But it seems really likely that his PoE contains one scum name! 3 of them are unflipped and guess what names appear again! (I put them in blue because I am having fun with colours tn

)

Also other than these mentions the pair appear nowhere else in his Iso but his "I forgot DGB was alive" quip on Page 1.

I'll check the other scum and the Isos of these two, but I think we have our scum!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2399 (isolation #37) » Fri May 04, 2018 5:39 pm

In post 2397, Pine wrote:
In post 2396, Alisae wrote:

VOTE COUNT 5 . 33

Katsuki
---------- 3 ( Keychain(7), northsidegal(25), BBmolla(8), Pine(21) )
L- 2

Ginngie
---------- 0 ( No One )
L- 5

shos
------------- 0 ( No One )
L- 5

DrippingGoofball
- 0 ( No One )
L- 5

Aristophanes
----- 0 ( No One )
L- 5

BBmolla
---------- 0 ( No One )
L- 5

Lady Lamdadelta
-- 0 ( No One )
L- 5

Keychain
--------- 0 ( No One )
L- 5

northsidegal
----- 0 ( No One )
L- 5

Not Voting
------- 6 ( camn(12) , Ginngie(17), shos(13), DrippingGoofball(3), Aristophanes(3), Lady Lambdadelta(3), Katsuki(12) )

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch
Deadline is in (expired on 2018-05-14 20:09:38)

Fake news

Voting shos.

Yeah, Keychain, NSG and Molla are too at the least.

Actually did you just assign the votes to the wrong person???

Aristophanes · Post Post #2401 (isolation #38) » Fri May 04, 2018 5:40 pm

In post 2400, camn wrote:worst votecout ever

Poor Alibae!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2404 (isolation #39) » Fri May 04, 2018 5:44 pm

In post 2402, Alisae wrote:AAAAAAAH okay I saw my mistake sorry I'm fixing that right now.

In post 2403, Alisae wrote:votecount fixed!

please don't hurt me

Wow look at that backpedal!

Alisae, are you the last scum!?

Aristophanes · Post Post #2406 (isolation #40) » Fri May 04, 2018 5:49 pm

In post 2405, Alisae wrote:(in all seriousness I'm trying to finish up designing a game for 451 that should have been done days ago I'm sorry ok)

I can always help

balance it

if you like

Aristophanes · Post Post #2407 (isolation #41) » Fri May 04, 2018 6:02 pm

In post 2387, Keychain wrote:Which of the two do you think is more likely scum?

By their postinf it looks a lot more like Shos. His weird dissonence with the game even when supposedly reading it just feels off! Like he's disengaged due to an inevidable loss and can't be bothered to do much else.

I think it may be this easy!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2414 (isolation #42) » Fri May 04, 2018 6:36 pm

In post 2409, Ginngie wrote:Ari vote shos

Yessir!

VOTE: Shos

I believe that's L-1 ya?

Aristophanes · Post Post #2429 (isolation #43) » Mon May 07, 2018 3:41 am

Ginngie!!

Mulch was probably just bad town, why do you think Kats is scum?

Aristophanes · Post Post #2527 (isolation #44) » Mon May 07, 2018 6:26 pm

In post 2524, DrippingGoofball wrote:I'm ready to vote for Kats as soon as camn or LLD gives me the go-ahead, how's that?

I've read up and pretty much this.

Some theory talk I've seen a lot says you lynch the claimed PR to confirm their guilty before lyncbing their guilty but I always found thag stupid! And with LLD claiming to have good reason to live till tomorrow it only makes sense that Kats die today.

I believe LLD so tomorrow probably isn't an issue anyway!

VT claim is weaksauce btw. What possible postgame reason is there that can't be said now!?

Aristophanes · Post Post #2529 (isolation #45) » Mon May 07, 2018 8:03 pm

That is the approval we needed!

VOTE: Katsuki

That's L-1 everyone

Aristophanes · Mon May 07, 2018 10:27 pm

In post 2532, Pine wrote:
@Mod: Immediate emergency V/LA. Lady Pine and I about to leave for the hospital to welcome baby Pinecone! Yayyyy! I may or may not check in over the next couple of days, depending on how often I can/need to take a break from being a new dad. Posting should stabilize over the next week or so.

Break out the cigars!

OMG PINE GET OUT OF HERE!!!

I am so so excited for you! <3

Aristophanes · Mon May 07, 2018 11:24 pm

In post 2537, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2531, Pine wrote:Sigh

Lady Pine is going into labor, guys.

Can we just wrap this up so it doesn't get drawn out?

Good game, pack it in, let's have a pinecone

VOTE: Katsuki
If Kats flips town after this post I'm never trusting Pine ever again.

This angleshooting would be legendary.

You ever trusted Pine to begin with!?

His job is literally to fuck with us!
Though this would be next level...

Aristophanes · Post Post #2555 (isolation #48) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:30 pm

Wait wtf!?

We no lynch today and massclaim tomorrow.
This NK makes no sense!

I'll Iso everyone alive tomorrow but what the hell!

VOTE: NL

Aristophanes · Post Post #2556 (isolation #49) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:31 pm

In post 2554, Pine wrote:
In post 2537, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2531, Pine wrote:Sigh

Lady Pine is going into labor, guys.

Can we just wrap this up so it doesn't get drawn out?

Good game, pack it in, let's have a pinecone

VOTE: Katsuki
If Kats flips town after this post I'm never trusting Pine ever again.

This angleshooting would be legendary.

I use what the Good Lord gives me.

In this, He gave me an infant.

Oh Pine

I hope you know that we can't let you win simply because you have a kid now! XD

Aristophanes · Post Post #2558 (isolation #50) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:37 pm

In post 2557, DrippingGoofball wrote:Checking in and congrats for the new pine seedling.

Antrhing to say or...?

Aristophanes · Tue May 15, 2018 11:56 pm

Okay, we either massclaim today or tomorrow. Whenever we do we may as well use that day to lynch so scum can't take advantage of the info.

Keychain, if this is a true inno it doesn't matter if we do this today or tomorrow, so I'll leave it up to you if we are to go for it or not today!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2578 (isolation #52) » Wed May 16, 2018 7:12 am

Yeag, DGB is almost assuredly town either way, so what good dies another night do us?

UNVOTE:

Camn, you should decide the order of the massclaim so scum don't get an advantage!

Aristophanes · Wed May 16, 2018 11:34 am

Dealeo!

I'm an Even-Night Doctor!
I protected NSG, Ginngie, and NSG. That is why their death perplexes me!

I am assuming a strongman was used or something...

Aristophanes · Post Post #2613 (isolation #54) » Thu May 17, 2018 1:57 am

Okay, so Molla it is then! Thanks for making it easy!

The amount of shit being flung in that post!

So let's look at this. I have not once claimed that Pine would never pick me. I did not use that a sinvle time I can remember! As scum, especially last scum, I would be doubling down on that SO hard to solidify my spot as town! Whenever I have gotten anything to latch onto as scum to make me look town I have always gone all in on it!

My activity is meh, but I have legitimate reasons including the fact that it is almost always Night in this game! Like, when I do get a chance to post I am not actually able to! It's a sad irony.

As for NKs, I don't think a strongman is necessitated anymore by simple mechanics. Ginngie would have had no protection N5 when they died, and NSG was busdriven so my protection wasn't there!

And why in gods name would I kill Ginngie, ever!? She was one of the few who had me in the "never lynch" pile when Elli had me as a maybe! I would have to be an idiot to kill her! Seriously!

Keychain could be scum bus driver, we all agree on that. Bur the logistics really don't work else either NSG should be alive or they shot DGB and redirected their own kill for whatever reason they would do that (if scum can even sumbit an action and kill at the same time).

Aristophanes · Post Post #2621 (isolation #55) » Thu May 17, 2018 6:50 am

In post 2620, Pine wrote:Nah, go to NL.

It's the safest.

And give you more time to scheme??

Ya right!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2624 (isolation #56) » Thu May 17, 2018 7:44 am

In post 2622, camn wrote:Also Aristo- You say you would never kill Ginngie- wasn't she a redirected kill? Don't play dumb- you knew that.

Didn't LLD redirect Kats onto Ginngie?

Since Kats couldn't have killed that night, Ginngie was probably a direct kill.

Aristophanes · Post Post #2647 (isolation #57) » Thu May 17, 2018 2:41 pm

I can compile this, gimme a minute.

Do you want all dead actions we know of or just the ones pertaining to us?

Aristophanes · Post Post #2652 (isolation #58) » Thu May 17, 2018 3:25 pm

In post 2649, BBmolla wrote:
In post 2647, Aristophanes wrote:I can compile this, gimme a minute.

Do you want all dead actions we know of or just the ones pertaining to us?
all if you got time

Cool, this'll take a bit of time, but let's see what I can do!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2653 (isolation #59) » Thu May 17, 2018 4:00 pm

I think this does it!

D1: Lynched mastina
N1: LLD Redirects Implosion onto Brian Skies/Mathdino
Centipede Syndrome dies

D2: Lynched Mathdino/Brian Skies
N2: Aristophanes Protects NSG
Keychain/Parama Busdrives LLD and Shos
Firebringer Dies

D3: Lynched Implosion
N3: LLD Redirects MariaR onto Shos
xReckonerx Dies

D4: Lynched Madoka and Homura/kuuhaku
N4: Aristophanes Protects Ginngie
Keychain/Parama Busdrives nobody
MariaR Dies

D5: Lynched Shos
N5: LLD Redirects Katsuki/Mulch onto Ginngie
Ginngie Dies

D6: Lynched Katsuki/Mulch, Vengekills Lady Lambdadelta
N6: Aristophanes Protects NSG
Keychain/Parama Busdrives NSG and DrippingGoofball
NSG Dies

Aristophanes · Post Post #2657 (isolation #60) » Thu May 17, 2018 4:41 pm

In post 2654, BBmolla wrote:
In post 2651, camn wrote:
In post 2648, BBmolla wrote:The only way she couldn't be is if she was a second Godfather, which, tbh, I think Alisae would provide us more clues to infer that in some way.
OK, I agree. So you have two relatively-seasoned conf-town players to convince.
We are leaning scum on you for the reasons described, on setup-spec, on whatever.. but we are NOT leaning town on you because of our own crapcase scumplay. So Bluster is probably not gonna be effective here.
We are open to reason.
So reason.

A meta-argument- "this is not my scum meta" is no argument at all. I have won
literally
1,000,000 scumgames with that argument, and also it will not fly... be it true or false.
The BEST case, of course.. is
not
why you are town.. it is who is the last scum . That's what we are interested in. And it is your chance to shine

Aristo? Or Keychain?

You
maybe
made some points earlier while ranting.. but they were hard for me to see cuz my eyes were rolling too hard (i know! Im trying to quit!)... so lets hear it more coherent this time!
Fuck EVERYTHING I said

I think Keychain is telling the truth about role and last night's action but lying about n4 and n2 actions (And likely n1 and n3 and n5 night actions) and likely used them instead to kill the nk target

Mafia 2-shot Roleblocker, Mafia Bus Driver, Mafia Godfather, Mafia Goon VS. Town Paranoid Cop, Town Fruit Vendor Arsonist(Which gets all kinds of fucked up by Bus Driver, Redirector, and Nexus keep in mind), Vengeful, Odd-night Recruiter, Even-Night Doctor, Miller is the most balanced setup you can get out of these claims.

FUCK I wish we had more night actions to analyze. Where the fuck did Firebringer's first fruit go???

@mod: If there was a paranoid cop, would they get innocent on the Godfather?

In post 2020, Alisae wrote:
In post 2019, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 2018, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Oh.

Godfather + Paranoid cop. How does that interact...
Paranoid Cop always gets a guilty regardless of the other player's role, so I would give a guilty if I were the mod.
However, I could see the argument that Godfather overrides that and gives an Inno, which may be the condition Alisae was talking about!

@Alisae
In theory, if a Paranoid Cop investigates a Godfather, would they get an Innocent or a Guilty result, assuming no other roles or modifiers interfered?
Paranoid cop gets an Inno on a godfather

Asked and answered!

I have to look at Molla and Keychain. We have to get this right!
Molla's flail is looking more like an honest reaction to all of this and I actually do like their points. With the apartment hunt and a

V/LA Saturday through Monday

as I am camping this long weekend, I'll be slow to analyze everything. We have the time though! Let's use it!!!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2658 (isolation #61) » Thu May 17, 2018 4:43 pm

In post 2654, BBmolla wrote:Mafia 2-shot Roleblocker, Mafia Bus Driver, Mafia Godfather, Mafia Goon VS. Town Paranoid Cop, Town Fruit Vendor Arsonist(Which gets all kinds of fucked up by Bus Driver, Redirector, and Nexus keep in mind), Vengeful, Odd-night Recruiter, Even-Night Doctor, Miller is the most balanced setup you can get out of these claims.

This does make a hell of a lot of sense...

Aristophanes · Post Post #2659 (isolation #62) » Thu May 17, 2018 4:44 pm

And by Recruiter you obv mean Redirector, ya?

Aristophanes · Post Post #2663 (isolation #63) » Thu May 17, 2018 4:52 pm

In post 2660, BBmolla wrote:Let me put it this way as well: If I was scum, what role could I possibly have to balance out the above town power + town even night bus driver?

And yes let's please take our sweet time

I mean, I can't think of anything off the top of my head.

In post 2662, BBmolla wrote:I forgot that as well, a mason nexus

Like that's a LOT of town power

Yeah, I assumed you had that included when you mentioned them fucking up the fruitvendor

I still need to read both of you. Lynching by role is only so reliable, especially with an Alisae game where Pine had some influence on the roles! So Play is a huge factor we need to consider!

I'm willing to give you both a chance

Then the scum will fall!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2665 (isolation #64) » Thu May 17, 2018 5:14 pm

Beat you to it Alibae!

Take that! XD

Aristophanes · Post Post #2670 (isolation #65) » Fri May 18, 2018 6:31 am

Okay, so camp was cancelled but now I am moving on Wednesday...so

V/LA Monday-Thursday
Cancel the last V/LA

What a life.

Aristophanes · Post Post #2695 (isolation #66) » Sun May 20, 2018 5:58 am

I have a few hours begore a wedding reception and DnD night, gonna see what I can do here!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2697 (isolation #67) » Sun May 20, 2018 6:06 am

Can I trouble you to put

tags around individial VCs?

It would honestly help me immensely <3

Aristophanes · Post Post #2702 (isolation #68) » Sun May 20, 2018 6:12 am

That legit makes it 100x more readable!

Thanks =D

I'm getting home now, lets do this!
You gonna be around so we can sort the game together?

Ninja'd, thanks for the update!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2710 (isolation #69) » Sun May 20, 2018 6:40 am

And looking at Molla I doubt scum pile onto mastina all at once like that. I mean, usually scum don't vote beside each other on VCs and you almost never have that many scum bus off the bat and not unvote!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2712 (isolation #70) » Sun May 20, 2018 7:17 am

So I just did an Iso of Molla and Key-Rama and crtl+f'd mastina. I was going to do this for all the scum team, and still might, but holy shit is it obvious this is Key-Rama Scum!

I'll make this into an actual case in a bit so long as time permits, but wow, with this, voting placement on D1, and the claim, I'm pretty positive we have our scum! =D

Parama did a horrendous job distancing and it's extremely obvious in retrospect! Molla, DGB, take a look and you'll see exactly what I mean!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2714 (isolation #71) » Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 am

In post 2711, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2710, Aristophanes wrote:And looking at Molla I doubt scum pile onto mastina all at once like that. I mean, usually scum don't vote beside each other on VCs and you almost never have that many scum bus off the bat and not unvote!
Mmmm don't forget this was part of some self-lynching mastina BS. They might have planned this in the PT.

Truuu, but I don't think mastina ever intended to eat that lynch and it doesn't seem reasonable to make the wagon grow so fast. I guess it could be distancing for exactly this kind of analysis and mastina and Pine would be ready for this, but I don't think so.

Pine wrote:
In post 2711, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2710, Aristophanes wrote:And looking at Molla I doubt scum pile onto mastina all at once like that. I mean, usually scum don't vote beside each other on VCs and you almost never have that many scum bus off the bat and not unvote!
Mmmm don't forget this was part of some self-lynching mastina BS. They might have planned this in the PT.
Full disclosure: I was a bit pissed when Mastina self-immolated. That was not part of The Plan.

Yeah, I 100% believe this actually!

Should have chosen better, Pine! XD

Aristophanes · Mon May 21, 2018 12:03 am

Keychain, this all actually makes so much sense! Your argument is flawed!

Town love lylo because it takes out a variable and makes it more likely all town will vote together. Mylo is waaaaay better for scum because getting all 3 townies to agree is tough enough, and getting them all to vote scum is even tougher! Mylo is simply way better for scum!

As for why you inno'd DGB, well you needed to secure that vote on *not you*! What is the best way to do that? Claim an inno on them so they trust you! It makes perfect sense really!

Aristophanes · Mon May 21, 2018 12:27 am

Tl;dr on Key's post

Elli:
Townread Keychain and Molla
Nullread Ari and DGB

Fire:
Townread Ari, Keyrama
No read on Molla or DGB

Reck:
Townread Molla
Nullread Ari
No read on Key or DGB

Maria:
Townread Ari and DGB
Scumread Molla and Keyrama

Ginngie:
Townread Ari and Molla
Scumread Key and DGB

DGB:
No reads listed?
Key seems to identify as a scumread of theirs but apparently no reads have been made in a while.

Aristophanes · Mon May 21, 2018 12:41 am

Actually, one last thing to add to it!
If Key is scum busdriver they targeted DGB knowing they would be killing NSG instead!
So here are NSG's reads from a month ago:

In post 2055, northsidegal wrote:{nsg}
{Mulch}
{Ginngie}
{MariaR, Lady Lambdadelta}
{Keychain, Aristophanes, DrippingGoofball, shos} <- too lazy to sort tier
{Madoka and Homura}
{BBmolla}

In post 2057, northsidegal wrote:being honest with myself list:

{nsg}
{Mulch}
{Ginngie}
{MariaR, Lady Lambdadelta}
{Madoka and Homura, BBmolla}
{Keychain, Aristophanes}
{DrippingGoofball, shos}

it was a quick revamp over 3 posts to get the "honest" reads.

NSG:
Nullreads Molla
Scumreads Ari, Keychain, DGB

In readimg their posts though stated reads are
NSG:
Townreads Ari and DGB
Scumreads Molla
No read on Keychain

NSG was a strong swing variable and that probably scared scum because a swing vote in endgame can really mess things up, especially from an essentially conftown.

Aristophanes · Post Post #2738 (isolation #75) » Mon May 21, 2018 9:52 am

In post 2736, Keychain wrote:
In post 2731, Aristophanes wrote: As for why you inno'd DGB, well you needed to secure that vote on *not you*! What is the best way to do that? Claim an inno on them so they trust you! It makes perfect sense really!
Again, why her though? Why not you, for example?

Why not me? Because I'm a less believable kill target than DGB, and because I'm already easily won over!

Aristophanes wrote: NSG was a strong swing variable and that probably scared scum because a swing vote in endgame can really mess things up, especially from an essentially conftown.
...Ari, you are suggesting Goofball was not a strong swing variable and that I chose to bring her into endgame. Please explain that. She had very few reads posted and I have not played with her before.

Yeah, but NSG was a strong swing that already scumread you and you would just be reconfirming them as town, not making anything new.
By doing this you get a new conftown who you are giving a clear to thus essentially bribing good favour! Because they haven't really stated reads it makes sense that they will townread you more for giving them this inno and thus secure a lynch elsewhere!

I mean, it didn't work for you, but it is a pretty good manipulative play that I could totally see Pine pushing!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2739 (isolation #76) » Mon May 21, 2018 9:53 am

In post 2737, BBmolla wrote:
In post 2725, Keychain wrote:What is my motivation for conftowning Goofball today instead of taking the no lynch?
To appear town?

Fear for whatever me or Ari might be?

Because Mylo is always better for scum than Lylo??

Because otherwise when you claimed tomorrow we would question why you didn't say so today?

Aristophanes · Post Post #2747 (isolation #77) » Tue May 22, 2018 4:49 am

You'd love for us to rush this, wouldn't ya Pine!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2756 (isolation #78) » Thu May 24, 2018 1:44 pm

I mean, you all know whete I sit on that one

I'm 100% mobile until I get my internet set up but I will work on that keyscum case asap

just a lot of quotes to pull and such.

Aristophanes · Post Post #2766 (isolation #79) » Thu May 24, 2018 4:25 pm

DGB, my biggest priblem with that is like, why would ScuMolla bus mastina so hard? I'm sure mastina never intended on being lynched so I doubt a scum buddy would be that consistently vocal against them! It just doesn't quite make sense to me.

Is there any more to your case?

Aristophanes · Post Post #2776 (isolation #80) » Thu May 24, 2018 9:46 pm

Sleep is not coming back to me, so Camn, talk with me

I toom a look at the Scum Lynch final VCs and noticed Molla wasn't on either after mastina. I was going to say it looked bad but they only had 1 post among those two days, which was intent on Brian Skies/Mathdino. I doubt they made it on otherwise and that was a day that ended in a Ginngie quickhammer.

Last posts from the Key and BB that day were:

In post 1737, Keychain wrote:
In post 1734, Aristophanes wrote:I guess this is where I check in?

I'm all for a fast day!

VOTE: Briian Skies
Oh no did I forget you?

That's L-1 with Ginngie not on the wagon, I think.

Brian is 100% the lynch today but by going to night without hearing from players it's like we're throwing potential information away, for no reason apart from impatience.

In post 1698, BBmolla wrote:Intent to hammer, claim

(Bonus, mine is quoted

)

Molla's L-1 seems natural, Key's insistance on waiting despite what may as well have been a guilty from Elli sounds rather LAMIST to me. Like, there was no way that wasn't an extremely fast day, so why draw it out but for town points or to try getting someone else implicated for the next day instead of Implo? I see no reason for that post from town.

I do agree that the Molla softs are questionable, but they did say they were doing so to bait an NK didn't they?

Ninja'd
Hey Molla!

Aristophanes · Thu May 24, 2018 10:51 pm

In post 2777, camn wrote:can you cite that behavior?

Cite which now?

Sorry, I'm dumb

Aristophanes · Thu May 24, 2018 11:04 pm

Ah! XD

All good then!

Aristophanes · Thu May 24, 2018 11:26 pm

I honestly don't see it being Molla tho. Their play just doesn't line up with what I would expect from scum!

Aristophanes · Thu May 24, 2018 11:40 pm

Yee, that should tell us a lot!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2791 (isolation #85) » Fri May 25, 2018 1:13 am

If you and Camn agree on Molla I'll oblige, I just dont feel it! They have an heir of innocence KeyRama doesn't and I don't know that they can pull that off as scum! I mean, their tone is just wrong for scum!

And ya, claims are shitty to deal with atm, but I'd believe the VT and Scum Busdriver a lot more than another goon and a town busdriver! Plus, sorting a game ny claims sucks and I really think KeyRama sounds scummy in their interactions with scum!

Even that quote you posted from 268! It was an attempt to move focus off of mastina and onto another scum who had less heat, probably because Pine didn't want to lose mastina and wanted to ensure the Godfather role stayed intact!

Like, I reaally don't see it not being Key.

Aristophanes · Fri May 25, 2018 12:26 pm

In post 2796, Keychain wrote:I don't think that scum would have been relying on keeping mastina around longterm, and indeed a D1 quicklynch would probably have been super useful to them and worth the bus.
Also if your problem is really with a scum buddy being that consistently vocal against mastina, you may want to skim through Mathdino's ISO. Or are you taking that into account already?

I doubt it but I don't think a D1 hardbus was in the plan. It doesn't make sense! Why lick mastina just to have her implode?

And yes, I am taking Mathdino into account. I could see one scum bussing for cred but a double hard bus? I don't see that as likely at all!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2799 (isolation #87) » Fri May 25, 2018 2:53 pm

Okay, that does seem legit.

Why wouldn't Implo have been all over that too though? He never once voted scum the entire game! Surely if a quick death was hoped for he would have jumped on that, no?

Aristophanes · Post Post #2801 (isolation #88) » Fri May 25, 2018 3:42 pm

In post 2800, Pine wrote:I just felt like pointing this out.

Why!?!?

Goddamit Pine I have my own wine! I don't need any of yours!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2803 (isolation #89) » Fri May 25, 2018 4:04 pm

In post 2802, Keychain wrote:There's no real wine from your perspective, not sure what's bothering you. If DGB is conftown, all that post says is that you're scum. If you're town, you already know that's incorrect, so you can disregard it.

In post 2799, Aristophanes wrote:Okay, that does seem legit.

Why wouldn't Implo have been all over that too though? He never once voted scum the entire game! Surely if a quick death was hoped for he would have jumped on that, no?
Having all three of them do the same thing on D1 would tie them together too much, I would think.

Yeah, I decided not to worry about that post. I figure he's up to something so let's not give Pine any attention! (Sorry my friend! <3)

Yeah also true, good point.

Goddammit! Camn, DGB, do either of their cases help you? I am still feeling Key but she has some decent points here

I'm doing all I can here but geez!

Aristophanes · Mon May 28, 2018 12:20 pm

Welp, moving took all my time. Imma look at both Isos later tn but I'm really sure it's Key still

Aristophanes · Post Post #2848 (isolation #91) » Mon May 28, 2018 2:58 pm

Alright, I've got some wine and Im ready to go!

Really wish I had internet atm but I guess mobile will have to do! Apologies in advance if this is clunky

Aristophanes · Post Post #2849 (isolation #92) » Mon May 28, 2018 4:39 pm

Lets do this!

Parama:
31 and 200 are dubious. 31 should be a joke but 200 doubles down on it. 200 calls Mathdino town for an extremely NAI post and calls mastina 3p, giving them a good enough reason to bus without actually putting pressure. Classic early scum move!

The 208 "confscum" on ginngie is shite too! Like, literally voted Ginngie for voting mastina! Holy shit!

232 his reads are: Scum Ginngie, FB, Centipied, Molla with 3p mastina. So it looks like Parama was pushing all town members and making light of his scummates. The joke at Implo to stop being scum also looks like a bot of forced distancing ehile reminding them to do better at being towny!
Oh whoops, take mastina off as a suspect because, and I quote,

In post 232, Parama wrote:195 - never lynch this ever this is pure town

245

Like, there is so much wine built into this post! Its purposely misleading! Oh, lol at 247 tho! What art!

303 Mulch townread him!!!!!
This means obvscum right? RIGHT!?!?
I mean, I am kidding. But I'm also not...

In post 409, Parama wrote:bored of this game let's sing bohemian rhapsody that's always a good time

*ahem*

In post 410, Parama wrote:IS THIS THE REAL LIFE

#ThatAwkwardMomentWhen noboby responds to your shitposting but call you on it instead XD

Apparently 233 was good enough to double quote at Camn so lets look at it again.
Centipied, Ginngie, Molla for sure scum. Already said FB was the fourth. Implo distancing confirmed with the comment to him. Ya, this post is scummy AF amd making such a big deal of it is biting him in the ass atm!

267 shows no intention on having Gonngie lynched. It was only when things became dire that they killed her! Like, this is literally such a copout! "I read you as scum because Ginngie! But since we aren't lynchong Ginngie lets mislynch you instead!"

I almost see no point continuing. This is literally so obviously the final scum! But lets finish this.

In post 469, Parama wrote:anyways
it's a completely valid strategy to tunnel one player d1
in a large game because there's way too many people to sort otherwise &
i only can kill so many people in a single day
anyways so why waste my breath, a single scumflip gives off a lot of great association tells & until then association tells are completely useless so again why bother. the early stages of a game are far too chaotic to be worth spending that much effort on

Literal scumposting. Holy shit!

476 makes a case out of Ginngie's sass which is...like, really shitty lol

525 I don't know how to take but like, sounds like he didn't read the scumchat until after he posted and tried to make distance where there wasn't any.

538 is an amazing way to get out of giving reads D1! Well done Parama!

746 - "let's lynch mafia thats, like, important guys!" Lol

748reason ti not read Mathdino and 749 scumread on Centipied. I don't know what else to say about this wrongness and insistance on giving bad reasoning for it!

1010 is just lol and the 1100 replace put sucks. The "no reason to be here" is wine that Pine didn't choose them after begging them to join according to Parama. And as I say, I assume those he asked to join likely hold the majority of the scuteam. This really sicks as an argumentand looks like it was meant to throw us off his trail. 1127 feeds this wine.

Ya Parama was scum. Finishing the rest asap today/tomorrow but like, this is the Scum we're looking for!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2850 (isolation #93) » Tue May 29, 2018 1:45 am

Keychain:
1272 is the first big reads post from Keychain (ilu too <3) and I find it reeeeeally interesting that her reads are almost identical to Parama's! Like almost exact! Either they have inentical analysis methods or Ket has some marks to hit on from the scum PT! Like, I have never seen this level of consistence from a replacement unless there's a reason (ie scum)

1285 is weird. Who makes a case by making statements and adding question marks to the end of them!? Like, that's just a weird and timid way of doing it that I don't think is very towny. It lets Key get out of any hard reads really easily.

1421 lowball, open question with no followup. This is scum's favourite thing to do! Looks active and helpful but does nothing to advance the game!

1526 Math/Brian read comes out of mostly nowhere. Almost no mention of them previously and then suddenly sure they are scum? As well it pulls attention off mastina and tries to push the wagon in the other direction. It also has dissonance with 1533 where she says Dino/Skies (much better combo name!!!), mastina, and Centipied are scum together. This doesn't make any sense given the reads that mastina is possibly town accedentally on that scum list and that the thought that centipied is town prese ting this list, both ideas mentioned in 1526 literally 7 posts earlier!

Ohey 1724 is another (well, the first, but I've noted previously) post where they ask to not end a day in the name of "getting more info!" This is so LAMIST! 1737 was the other one I noted previously.

OH LOOK!!! They didn't keep this mentality at all the next day! Key hammered Implo with no mercy in 1773 mere hours adter the thread opened! What happened to wanting people to check in and give info and associatives? They junt jumped in to end all that ASAP! And actually, they never asked my to unvote at the end of D2, they just commented on wanting to not have the lynch yet knowing Ginngie would quickhammer! Holy shit!

And then they start the next day, 1782, blaming mulch for their own hammer after mulch gave them a VC at their request! How!?!?

1988 keeps all options open too. None of the question marks come out very towny or very scummy, giving optimal mislynch range. As the final scum this is necessary! GG Key!

Also you write too much

I may have to pause this for work but I know deadline is fast approaching. I'm gonna look at Molla and come back to Key but like, this is scum holy crap!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2851 (isolation #94) » Tue May 29, 2018 2:16 am

Molla:
47 and 49 seem like simple RVS tho 49 makes me raise an eyebrow. I know it is wine but "thanks for drafting me" is another LAMIST and I hate those!

55 is the first of many softs that Molla later explains away as looking to get NK'd and not worrying about cinsistency. I'm skeptical of this.

64 is an insta scumread on mastina for her shenanigans and I mean, either they know mastina is scum already or their meta checks out. I'm partial to believing the latter but I will take either as a possibility. They double down in 129 and 137 and I feel like commenting on this repelatedly is a waste of time. Tl;dr they seemed almost overconfident in mastina scum and that coyld be indicative that they already knew she was scum coming into D1.

Jokes around with Pine in 177 which I think scum would be a little afraid to do. Town have no worry in engaging him. It's a little thing but I feel like it is towny!

Oh and HAPPY SCUMDAY MOLLA!!! =D

In post 497, BBmolla wrote:Mastina or no lynch

No lynch is actually kind of nice for ~reasons

Dafuq is this shit??
NL for ~reasons~ my ass!
What were those reasons Molla??

915 is hugely towny! The annoyance at the game's speed and lack of lynch on mastina is genuine AF!

1383 could be argued that they know Mulch's reads suck because they kniw the scumteam but that would be all the more reason to support the idea of Mulch Kingmaker so...

In post 1471, BBmolla wrote:
In post 1421, Keychain wrote:I am fascinated to see how this shakes out.

Ginngie what's your mastina read?
Holy yikes this is scum

You called this so early! This mylo is infuriating!

1698 asks for a claim pre-hammer which could be LAMIST as we were lynching no matter what but it's also their standard so o ce again, meh

1919 is also towny. I see no reason for my being townread for a lot of the game and I like that they actually pushed for reasons!

In post 2010, BBmolla wrote:
In post 1978, Mulch wrote:
In post 1976, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: Keychain
You are an idiot for not listening to ELLI

He fucking got 3 scum and you are arrogant enough to think your own personal scumread is better than his townread on Keychain?? Gtfo

This is a perfect example of why MS towns suck

Sorry for hostility
Lmao

Just cause a person got some reads right doesn’t mean all their reads are right

Quoted because one of these is scum and it really looks like Key in this post. Key's overblown reaction sucks and Molla answers quite well.

K making this faster because I really do have to go...

2384 looks less LAMIST and more frustrated and I believe it.

The rest os all from this dayphase and I think we've gone through it all mostly. The softs suck and the mastina push is too confident. There's a healthy amout of LAMIST in here.

Aristophanes · Post Post #2852 (isolation #95) » Tue May 29, 2018 2:17 am

I'm gonna be the first.
I'll unvote after work if you want me to Camn and DGB

VOTE: Keychain

Aristophanes · Post Post #2876 (isolation #96) » Tue May 29, 2018 2:29 pm

Pine
Your vote doesn't count and this is

MYLO

!

Thats not a hammer! XD

Aristophanes · Post Post #2877 (isolation #97) » Tue May 29, 2018 2:31 pm

Fantastic tho!

I didn't think 2 even-night roles made sense!
Like, key must have just made that part to fit with LLD's claim!

Makes perfect sense this way

Aristophanes · Post Post #2917 (isolation #98) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:09 am

WOOOOOOO!!!!

Best game to leave on!!!

I had so much fun with you all!

And Pine, I fucking love you dude

Thank ypu so much for helping me through this!!!

Aristophanes · Post Post #2926 (isolation #99) » Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:59 am

In post 2922, Gamma Emerald wrote:You guys are aware this is the exact fucking same sequence of events as the last one right?
Town has some sort of super-boon at the beginning
scum is reduced to one
the last scum endgames
If you decide to run another game like this don't be trite ok?

Okay, but last time town legit would have won if I hadn't played how I did post-hammer! I drew the vengekill onto myswlf like an idiot because I didn't follow my rule and play to the whistle! I'm not downplaying Cakez's play, but I really fucked it up!

This time, I made cases and tried my best to play my towngame in Mylo and scum pulled out a win! I take partial credit for both scum victories, but this one was intended that way!

Aristophanes · Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:01 am

Reck, I am just bad at mafia and a lot of the time I legit don't check or have time to read up on my games! My guaranteed scumtell has become an Ari tell and is part of why I need a break!