Maria's Anime Binge Game over!

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VOTE: 1

VOTE: beeboy

N0 guilty you're welcome.

Thanks!

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VOTE: 3

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r.e. the choices, i think 1 is probably the red herring

What do you mean by red herring?

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Even if it's just 2 random ones, I think it's still worth it. I think scum will have some strong powers.


And yes, it might be reaching but it's just my first instinct, and it's only page 4. SO better to go off something than nothing.

What are you planning to go off? Taly vanished from the game. You're not going to get a whole lot of reaction.

I think it's common sense to wait to use a double lynch when the odds are better due to more information rather than less, but hey, do what you want, since I don't feel like being insulted in any more circle jerks.

What gives you the impression that we'll have the double lynch to use later?

I read "Double lynch can net 2 mislynches"
I see "I am a coward who has no confident about my reads"

I don't think it's cowardice if your reads aren't stellar and you know it.
You're going about this by appealing to ego, which is pretty questionable.


I picked 3 because it's the surest to be negative for scum. Not opposed to switching to 1 later depending on how the game shakes out, but 2 is likely to be just as useful to scum as town and I agree with Nos's 85 that the double lynch gives us setup info too anyway.

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Purrc! =^_^=

Why GIF maybe scum?

Anyone want to try and lynch GIF?

Also why? Apart from 113.

Like I would have been on board but the context for you proposing this is just glaringly terrible.

The 1% is lolScreenplayWagon and Screen reacting poorly.

If I force a townread I'd townread KidAmn rn.
But it's very forced.

KidAmn's reaction to the Srceen votes was interesting too, is that why you're townreading him?

VOTE: Option 3

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ew what an ISO, especially that last post

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Purrc! =^_^=

Why GIF maybe scum?

NOT GOING TO ASK Y I SCUMREAD U ? RUH ROH

What's the point in asking that? It puts us at direct odds and this way I get help sorting GIF as well as you. Plus your read on me is more useful to me later on, when you've been in the game for a bit.
Also answer please, you dodged ^^

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Purrc, thoughts on Tywin?

I SCUMREAD GIF BECAUSE HE SEEMS TO BE ENJOYING HIMSELF A TINY BIT (YEP)
AND HE'S LIKE THE LAWFUL EVIL VERSION OF KIDAMN WRT TO LAMIST AND THAT'S A LITTLE BAD

I don't follow at all but okay

IM NOT SURE WHAT OF HIS ISO WARRANTS U SOFT DEFENDING HIM THO

You consider asking people why they scumread someone as soft defending?
I kind of want to vet the wagon before I join it, which I was thinking about doing in 100.

WHAT DO U MEAN THE CONTEXT BTW

It looks like Srceenplay is only scumreading GIF because GIF is voting for him. Like from their combined ISOs:

VOTE: screen

I personally made a vote because I read #112.

The screen wagon is crap.
If I die Gif head gets chopped off

This is why I'm asking if he has a better reason.

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Keychain: I'm pretty sure we will get to choose the 2 choices we don't pick on future days, because i assume it's the same with how role choices seem to work. Its possible this is differemt and a one time thing, but i don't see any reason to think that. The theme is about choosing stuff, so i don't see why it would just be scrapped. Maybe we get 3 different choices in the future, but that's just more work for MariaR and co. I'd be too lazy to do that if it were me. Why ask this though?

I asked because it sounded like you had more information, and it changes the choice completely. I disagree with you - the mod phrasing "An event has taken place" makes it sound like a one off event.

VOTE: Tywin Lannister
The combination of going in hard against option 1, especially considering Purrc's point in 177, and picking option 2 based on the odd idea that town need to figure out the setup

asap

(since you're basing this on the idea that we can use all three of these at some point), are scummy. Option 2 is also scum's best option, if they're worried about not being able to control the lynch.

I thought #165 was a clear indicator of "accuse first find reason later"

Mmm but he should still get the opportunity to explain.

With that said, Purr is prob town too.
But it's as strong as page 8 read can get.

I agree with this so far.

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Srceen you look like you're panicking under pressure and your GIF and Wheme scumreads are based on them scumreading you. Trying to write it off as playstyle is weak.

Do you have any other reads?


Also Creature where are you

VOTE: Option 1

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I'm going to babble thoughts on the playerlist. Someone please talk to me about something.


4.randomidget
Getting strong town feels from here.

5.Purrcocet
Happy to keep Purrc as town for now, I think the way they're putting out feelers seems townlike.

6.acryon
V/LA. Can't remember but I think good feelings?

13.KidAmn
Widely townread it seems. His reaction to Purrc seemed town to me, but on the other hand his reaction to the Srceen wagon seemed more like scum out of sync.

3.Wisdom
For some reason I'd be surprised if GIF and Wisdom were both town - Wis just seems like he's hiding in GIF's shadow, though I guess it's possible. 269 stood out as a good post, though that probably says more about the game than him.

14.Kokichi Oma
I don't have many thoughts on Kokichi right now. Neutral.

15.Katsuki*
Play please pretty please?

10.Nosferatu
I don't feel strongly either way about Nos. I liked their early posts but not really in an alignment indicative way.

1.GuyInFreezer
Noisy and bold. Could go either way.

12.WhemeStar
No idea tbh

16.Misaka Network (FakeGod and SXTLHGaiden)*
If they keep up this third person thing for the whole game I will be majorly impressed, but so far they've been super uninvolved.

2. NicoRobin
Lurky and knows it based on most recent post

8.Tywin Lannister
Seems scummy to me. I think I said why, sort of?

7.Creature*
Lurking...

9.Srceenplay
Really not opposed to this wagon based on Srceen's play, and I'd love to hear from players who disagree because it's a really good thing to talk about nowish.

Deleted the like 5 extras of these~Maria

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Wow jeez sorry!

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Deleted the like 5 extras of these~Maria

thank you!! <3

1) Dunno how I feel about double lynch, in theory it's optimal townchoice, but at the same time we're playing a role madness game so that gives us less nights to work with.

Basic maths isn't my strong suit when I'm exhausted but I don't think we get less nights since we're on evens. I stole that from GIF's 79.

Creature is lean-town. His disinterested posts don't feel fabricated.

Can you say more on why this makes you lean town on him?

Oh just realized we were suppose to vote on options at game start...

1) Dunno how I feel about double lynch, in theory it's optimal townchoice, but at the same time we're playing a role madness game so that gives us less nights to work with.

2) Setup info to be provided is unknown.

3) Mafia getting the choice to vanillarize two of their roles sounds like a giant trap to me. Probably have some sort of negative utility or other less desirable powers to get rid of.

hmm... I'm probably gonna forget to revisit this at this rate considering I still haven't dragged myself to read anything yet so going to drop a vote first.

Vote: 2)

I eagerly await the responses to this from everyone on the Srceenplay wagon.

Were there many people who were calling voting 2) a scumclaim?

Looking back, Keychain makes a couple of references to 2 being the best option for scum (#100 and #187) and voted Tywin for him pushing against 1/for 2. Nobody outright called "voting 2 is a scumclaim" but, it

looked

to me like what provoked the wagon on Srceen was his taking up the contrary position in favour of 2; acryon stating it was for LAMIST, random's #118 gave me the impression it was related to his vote and the way he went about it...

What I'm trying to say is, I want to see what those people voting Srceen for his approach to The Choice think of Katsuki's approach. That'll tell me a lot more about that wagon.

Uh, why are you citing me? I'm not even voting him. Plus 244 actually describes why I think he's being scummy.

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I see yeah.

But looking at that interaction it would make more sense for you to be looking for examples

on

the wagon, since your 329 is clearly suggesting that the wagon is going to find Katsuki's post interesting and acryon was asking in that context.

It looks like you're scraping to support your point. random's 118 also seems to be referring to Srceen's behaviour independent of his vote choice, not because of it, and so doesn't really support your point either. What you're doing looks really really like scum trying to distract the wagon on a buddy, but without a Srceen flip that's not very useful to my read on you.

Anyway. What's your personal read on Srceen and how he's reacted to the wagon on him? The closest I can see in your ISO is not a townread in 197 and conflicted/meta scumread in 303, but it would be nice to get some more depth.

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Right at this moment I don't care about the wagon or Wheme's flip, I care about your read on Srceen based on his play.

What caused your positive read on him? I guess the thing I'm not understanding is where the conflict is coming from. You've only given one thing on him that I found, which was that scumread. I want to hear your reasons why he's towny.

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I glanced at keys iso. Not much in it bothers me.
Except,
It seems like they a posturing on me a lot.
keep saing they are ok with my lynch and even has me on the bottom of their scum list but the question others for voting me.

It's the best source of content to read them, since asking

you

anything gets me a whole lot of nothing. And if you're town, I'd rather not mislynch you.

Just realised I didn't address this:

KidAmn: Why are you worried about screenplay getting votes? Also, why choose to defend him, rather than see how he would respond? What's the TR on him for?

The reasoning most players have given for jumping on the wagon is tenuous at best, although I concede that so little is happening that this is the (il)logical result. It's not so much a TR on Srceen as a concern about the reasoning behind the votes.

I never stated I had a positive read on Srceen. I've voiced concerns about the speed of the wagon and the tenuous or lack of reasoning from those on it, but also concern about Srceens reactions. I don't know where you got this positive read nonsense from.

Uh, from the post right before mine, quoted below. I'm literally just asking what you mean when you said you felt positive on him.

Conflicted is about right. Most of the justification for the wagon has been minor or nonexistent, and Wheme's flip concerns me but could be any number of things. The reaction matching his defeatist recent scum plays as he approached being lynched has me

less positive on him than I used to be

, but I'm loath to race ahead when we have so many lurkers/low content posters.

but there's a nice shiny keychain wagon sitting here waiting for votes

Okay, I'll bite. Why are you scumreading me, kitty?

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Less positive != positive. One can slide down a scale from neutral to lesser.

Okay, that answers it, thank you

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Postering on me while questioning others about their reads on me.
Gathering ammo from my mislynch.
Knowing option 1 goes through they have things to push after wards.


I see it ass scum for the most part letting town train wreak and trying to discredit them afterwards.

You're at L-2, aren't you? And I scumread you. So I'm questioning others about their reads on you to see if I scumread you enough to lynch you, and using your wagon to develop reads on the rest of the game. Not sure why you think that's scummy.

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Welcome Toranaga! Tywin didn't even say goodbye, which is saddening.

One of my actions is to upgrade a action. 1 shot.
I upgraded my neighborizer action. I was hoping it would become friendly or something but didnt. It became I can make two neighborhoods in one night.

The number of players who have claimed or half claimed some kind of power up role (Srceen, Katsuki and Misaka) is pretty surprising to me, but the claim isn't what I'd expect from scum.
The neighbouriser is a confirmable role, and a weird choice to upgrade as scum unless his other options were really shit. Potentially his neighbouriser was

already

the two hood version and he's just fakeclaiming since his actual role for today is too scummy to claim.

We could like waste less time

Mate you've been like actively doing nothing and you're complaining about time wasting?

Who else is passive?

Are you including players who are effectively non entities, or just ones who are present but passive?

Your reads feel lazy, and when I call it out you're all "JK IT WAS A TRICK!!" that doesn't seem clever, it seems scum.

It was a very smooth catch by GIF if so. I agree with him that your reaction of "lynch lynch lynch" is scummy.

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you're doing some scum!keychain things

Name them

and you sorted me at a point when realistically town you probably wouldn't have

I think your reads seem solid enough to satisfy me for now. You're not sorted, you're on the backburner because my first impression of you is that I don't want to lynch you.
Plus I don't particularly think you come into this game as scum scumreading me right off the bat. I'll laugh if you did though.

am i the only one who sees the evil ;-;

Am I the evil <3 <3 <3

{Creature, Nosferatu, Kokichi, Whemestar, Nico} is a list of people i wouldnt mind lynching

I haven't paid much attention to Nos, why wouldn't you mind lynching them?

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Vote: NicoRobin

Shape up or ship out. There's no reason as town to be coasting with this little interaction with the game at this point.

I'd rather see how Nico plays after a flip, given what they said in 361. And since we can have two lynches today, that won't hurt us.

shes not going to suddenly learn how to play so pressure on her is wasted

shoot: Wisdom

mii mii mii.....

Was this shot directly prompted by Wisdom's post?

it's to do with how you write your posts and engage people
505 is an example

but like your aura is all innocent and stuff so the town doesnt eviscerate u ^_^

Why is 505 an example, how does it differ from what you'd expect from me as town? You're not being very specific.

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I'm an IC tomorrow, I'll choose that role. You guys just have to vote me tomorrow as "most popular" and I'll be confirmed town by mod.

What the hell? Why didn't you claim this until now?

Why would he have claimed it earlier?

Also it feels like options are being limited to Srceen/Kokichi/Nico. I'd like more votes on Toranaga - Tywin was playing scummy, then silently replaced out, and since replacing in almost two days ago Tor has done nothing except

will read later

hi everyone

@mod I voted for Option 1 a while ago

Just woke up, skimmed thread, will look at things properly after coffee.

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which does not give me towny feelings.

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Looks like you're tied with Nico.

By my count:
Srceen is at 5 votes (northsidegal, Nosferatu, Katsuki, Misaka, Kokichi)
Nico is at 5 votes (Wheme, acryon, KidAmn, GIF, Srceen)
Wisdom is voting Creature, Creature is voting Nos, Purrcocet is voting me, I am voting Toranaga, Toranaga is voting GIF, Nico is voting no one.

VOTE: Srceenplay

I think Srceen is more likely scum than Nico and deadline is coming up soon.

northsidegal replaces randomidget

Hi North!

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Deadline ends in (expired on 2018-05-16 13:00:00)

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No flip? Is that because of the double lynch or an action?

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No flip? Is that because of the double lynch or an action?

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what is it dear?

Sweetheart, it's that you reacted to a flipless lynch with thumbs up. Given that you haven't given any thoughts on the game yet, it's hard to know why you're happy with Srceen's lynch.

It's protown to assume Srceenplay was town.

Why?

With that said.

VOTE: NO LYNCH

Why??

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Creature, what are your reads right now?

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Seems like a reasonable pool, though I'm not convinced that Creature is scum. I think it's probably better to lynch someone else. Toranaga would be my pick.

VOTE: Toranaga

Since there's a bit of confusion I want to make it clear Screenplays flip will be shown at the end of the second lynch.

Well, that's something. I hope the other choices were also worse than they looked.

With that said.

VOTE: NO LYNCH

Why??

The advantage of having a double lynch is nullified by the lack of info from the first flip. I'm all for more dead bodies dropping if that's what you guys want.

We have fifteen players that exist and the option of lynching before night. No lynch doesn't really make any sense in this current scenario.

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Though I've had very bad reads recently I'd like to hear more on who players are scumreading.

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I scumread his predecessor and his lurking from replace in hasn't exactly changed my mind.

though I'm not convinced that Creature is scum

Why? Its all fake bravado
Hes acting like hes done things when hes done nothing
And he accuses people that wanted option 1 as if they were supposed to know we would get no flip
Whats not scum about it?

Because it looks like there are flashes of him displaying his thought process (315-322, 441, 458). It's enough to make me waver, though the self meta in 759 does look like he could be trying to hit the mark a bit on that one.


@Creature: what are your current reads on Wisdom and Kokichi?

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Sorry :/

I really don't like acryon's push on Creature, in that it looks like he's latching onto someone who looks mislynchable - like the push seems to be driven more by the fact that Creature looks like an easy lynch more than it's driven by actually thinking he's scum, though I could be underestimating him.

He has put the work in to read Creature's wiki in 912 to support his point (though it's obviously not page 3 anymore), but it doesn't take a lot to unearth references to Creature's meta - his title, for example - and ignoring it seems very blinkered. Moreover, Creature is an asset as town. Good reads, if you listen.

He makes a good point that Wisdom's about turn was ??? though.


If I were to roughly sort the playerlist into buckets

Keep:
GuyInFreezer
northsidegal
Purrcocet
Creature


Lynch in:
Toranaga
Nosferatu
Katsuki
Misaka Network (FakeGod and SXTLHGaiden)
NicoRobin


Needs more thinking:
Wisdom
acryon
WhemeStar
KidAmn
Kokichi Oma

northsidegal

, come talk to me please, I need your help with these buckets, particularly the last one.

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I really don't like acryon's push on Creature, in that it looks like he's latching onto someone who looks mislynchable - like the push seems to be driven more by the fact that Creature looks like an easy lynch more than it's driven by actually thinking he's scum, though I could be underestimating him.

Have a hard time understanding how "latching onto someone who looks mislynchable" applies when I came onto the wagon after multiple people got off.

I mean your opinion of his playstyle and how you're pushing him. I'll try to explain better when I have time later today.

Gonna hard disagree with the good reads part. Guy literally gave the list of 8 or so people that we need to lynch inside of today, and no one else. Then later in the day proceeds to list 4 people we should lynch, 3 of which were not on that list... A good chunk of the rest of the game is trying to gain towncred without actually doing anything on his own. I'd like for someone to show me where he has scumhunted this game.

I would find it fairly impossible to decide whether

anyone

has good reads based on this game with no flips.

Spoiler: mastina's summary of Creature for the Mod is Mafia scum team

Creature
^Everyone pretty much knows about Creature. Good reads--really good reads. Has a night/day difference in town/scum meta and thus will be seen as town. (I may be able to fuck with this a little bit but I can only do so much.) Has absolutely no charisma whatsoever. His vote in of itself can be a threat, but I'll leave it to you to decide on whether he's a good kill or not.

Creature as town posts his thoughts in thread as they happen, even when they change, and I linked to points where I think that happened in 823.

He makes a good point that Wisdom's about turn was ??? though.

I also have a problem with Wisdom's turn.

Yes, I uh was agreeing with you on the point you'd already made.

not hard to hide when 60% of the game is doing sweet f all while the other 30% talk around ourselves endlessly and Taly and Beeboy are off getting busy in a closet or whatever

guarantee 2+ scum are in that 60% doing fuck all and enjoying the free ride

My god, you're upset when people don't talk, you're upset when they do talk... If you just want a lynch, park yourself on Toranaga.

on that note

northsidegal

why?

You mean why do I have her in my keep bucket? I was townreading random pretty strongly.

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Oh Tora was scum! Nice. The second lynch was actually useful.

You mean why do I have her in my keep bucket? I was townreading random pretty strongly.

no I figured that, why did you townread random. I did not.

It was something he said about the event - that scum possibly had prior knowledge of it. I'm pretty sure they didn't, and I don't see scum

without

prior knowledge suggesting they might have it. Sounded like town uninformedness.

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gg scum, good job town! You guys did great.