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Post Post #200  (ISO)  » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:35 pm

The "the worst" award for ?excellence? is a fine award
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Post Post #201  (ISO)  » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:39 pm

I think they cut too many Scummies and we need to bring some back!
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Post Post #202  (ISO)  » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:19 pm

Legitimately, there are people I love playing with who I don't particularly think qualify for any of the current scummies. Should we not recognize their contributions to the funness of games. (Yes, that's a word, now)
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Post Post #203  (ISO)  » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:26 pm

that's not what awards are for
To be clear: this is allowed

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Post Post #204  (ISO)  » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:46 pm

In post 203, SleepyKrew wrote:that's not what awards are for

Yes, it is, to recognize people that make a community a better place.

Why do you think the Miss America Pageant has a Miss Congeniality?

Or the Roberto Clemente award in baseball?

I think it's totally legitimate to recognize the people who are around to make the games more fun, and just be a positive force in the community by being a nice and fun person, not necessarily by being the smartest or most cunning.
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Post Post #205  (ISO)  » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:26 pm

In post 196, mastina wrote:
In post 195, ActionDan wrote:Talking about Paragon, do incumbents have term limits?
Only self-imposed. Candidates are capable of, should they wish to, self-disqualifying themselves from the award.

But failing that, yes, if Ellibereth is nominated again--and yes he is eligible for 2018 Paragon because of his gamebreaking THIS year in multiple towngames--he can and would win it again.


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Post Post #206  (ISO)  » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:34 pm

There's a new thread up designed specifically for the input and ideas expressed in the last few days/weeks in this discussion.

An elegant and finely-crafted link to the 2018 Scummies Community Poll

In the meantime, more nominations! Did someone do a good job in a recent game? Nominate them! No game is too small for consideration.
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Post Post #207  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:32 pm

I can finally do this.
Nominate Beeboy for Paragon
I’ll explain a lot more later BUT the tl;dr reason is:
They have the best reads out of any town player I am aware of that isn’t Ellibereth.
They are always extremely obvious town
They can get their reads lynched

Like they’re probably just he best town player that still plays currently. Let’s look at Varsoon’s recently ended game.
By D2 they had the whole scumteam in their FoS pool and build an extremely strong townbloc. Their play was so strong that most of their reads would be carried out even after death if V didn’t completely abandon his game (we still love him though). He is the only reason why the village would have 100% won that game.
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Post Post #208  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:19 pm

Just nommed skitter30 for Don Corleone

I'm trying to find a good quote that summarises just how hard mutantdevle got pocketed by skitter here but there are so many. I'll go with the (first) bit of source material:

Spoiler: Mutant fed this directly to scum via a messaging mechanic
I am a mason.
Aronis is my mason partner. Our mason chat is only open at night including night 0.
I believe Wheme is a role cop who checked me night 0. The reason I believe this is because of his posts: 145 (initial crumb to me), 192-194, 249-251, 454 and it wasn't until my 494 that he stopped trying to emphasise how town I am.
You obviously send these messages and I town read you anyway.
Ausuka is a lie detector and probably not scum.
the worst has be confirmed town by said lie detector.
And obviously you've just seen 123456789 claim and I also think that comes from town.


So basically we have a town block of {me, Aronis, Wheme, you, Ausuka, the worst and 123456789} that's only really known to me, you and Aronis. I expect someone from this list to die tonight. I hope this information aids you in your reads and at some point I'd like to think that claiming this block and all their roles will let the town PoE everything else.

I'm slightly cautious of Wheme tbh because of his third-party claim but I think he's just doing that to not get night killed. And 123456789 obviously gets confirmed if Firebringer is scum but if he's town then I wouldn't consider 123456789 part of this block.

But yeah skitter carried the scumteam to a perfect scum win which involved 6 consecutive mislynches.

Game was Gerrymandering Shadow Government Democracy Mafia btw
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Post Post #209  (ISO)  » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:59 am

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Post Post #210  (ISO)  » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:42 pm

In post 208, jjh927 wrote:Just nommed skitter30 for Don Corleone

I'm trying to find a good quote that summarises just how hard mutantdevle got pocketed by skitter here but there are so many. I'll go with the (first) bit of source material:

Spoiler: Mutant fed this directly to scum via a messaging mechanic
I am a mason.
Aronis is my mason partner. Our mason chat is only open at night including night 0.
I believe Wheme is a role cop who checked me night 0. The reason I believe this is because of his posts: 145 (initial crumb to me), 192-194, 249-251, 454 and it wasn't until my 494 that he stopped trying to emphasise how town I am.
You obviously send these messages and I town read you anyway.
Ausuka is a lie detector and probably not scum.
the worst has be confirmed town by said lie detector.
And obviously you've just seen 123456789 claim and I also think that comes from town.


So basically we have a town block of {me, Aronis, Wheme, you, Ausuka, the worst and 123456789} that's only really known to me, you and Aronis. I expect someone from this list to die tonight. I hope this information aids you in your reads and at some point I'd like to think that claiming this block and all their roles will let the town PoE everything else.

I'm slightly cautious of Wheme tbh because of his third-party claim but I think he's just doing that to not get night killed. And 123456789 obviously gets confirmed if Firebringer is scum but if he's town then I wouldn't consider 123456789 part of this block.

But yeah skitter carried the scumteam to a perfect scum win which involved 6 consecutive mislynches.

Game was Gerrymandering Shadow Government Democracy Mafia btw

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but honestly I think that speaks more to mutant being too trusting
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Post Post #211  (ISO)  » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:46 pm

I thought "just nommed" would convey that I had indeed used the form
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Post Post #212  (ISO)  » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:31 pm

I figured you had recently eaten :P
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Post Post #213  (ISO)  » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:32 am

the mention of the name looked like you weren't aware of the form, eh
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Post Post #214  (ISO)  » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:20 pm

A copy-paste of my nomination of Shoshin for Rising Star.

name: shoshin

reason:
She is a strong analytical player that I believe serves as a great representative of the 2018 playerbase. She's excellent at engaging scumreads and quickly solidifying townreads. As a scumpartner said in one game, Shoshin eliminates potential mislynch targets at a frightening pace.

I think that she has a great sense and intuition for what scum looks like and maintains reads well above average for town. To round this out I think she's excellent at staying active, engaging players, and generating useful content herself and from others. An excellent player to have on your town team.

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Post Post #215  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:03 pm

^ just saw this but would n'th
labyrinth mafia is another great sample (she had the scumteam correctly nailed for like...most of the game and it still got to MyLo :|)
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Post Post #216  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:08 am

3rd backing Shoshin nomination. I will never again ignore her scumreads.
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Post Post #217  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:54 am

In post 180, Kokichi Oma wrote:I'm not sure if I'm doing this right, but I'd like to Nominate implosion: For Best Mechanic/Mutation in Mini 2011: Partition Mafia viewtopic.php?f=23&t=76227

Playing a game where you had to be in groups was incredibly fun and made it more enjoyable. As scum you had to make sure to make the groups right or it would be very easy to lose, and from town perspective they're forced to possibly lynch their townreads to lynch scum as well.

Not sure If this has been done before, the groups thing. But, I think he stated it hadn't been.



+ a million. Thanks for reminding me that was a brilliant setup/mechanic.

It was very very very fun and took the psychological aspect of mafia to far greater heights.

Good reads are not enough. You have to know how to convince others which lynch is optimal. You have to recognize when it is correct to lynch yourself.

Just overall a great game. I wanted to win so bad like no other game and yet when I lost it didn't take away from the enjoyment of the game. The entertaining gameplay far outweighed the desire to win and considering the desire to win was so friggin high that is a huge testament to how awesome the mechanic is/was. I think it should be a recurring mechanic. The only variation should be in existence of and number of the PRs in the game to increase its longterm playability/attraction. Though imo it would work even as a fixed open setup because every game could still be so different.

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Post Post #218  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:55 pm

where's the nomination list
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Post Post #219  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:27 pm

did anybody nominate nsg for paragon because thats a bit of an elephant in the room
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Post Post #220  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:40 am

Not according to the table in the OP.

Though if we're going by that there are almost no noms this year at all...
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Post Post #221  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:23 pm

In post 220, Aristophanes wrote:Not according to the table in the OP.

Though if we're going by that there are almost no noms this year at all...
We'll probably be announcing to nominate people around the start of 2019, since 2018 scummy nominations don't close until the end of January. (Although to be eligible, the game needs to end in 2018; any game ending in January of 2019 is still to be nominated for the 2019 scummies.)

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Post Post #222  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:50 pm

the image in the table isn't fully updated, to view the full one you can copy the image location and them remove "&format=image" from the url

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Post Post #223  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:05 pm

oh yes, excellent, thank you northsi-

o m g !! northsidegal! i was talking abt u earlier !!! good luck with paragon and rising star and whatever else
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Post Post #224  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:07 pm

Strange, the number of nominations feel low
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