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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:57 am

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In post 569, MariaR wrote:Shoshin is by far the player that interests me the most atm.
I like her. What's on your mind?
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:58 am

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In post 572, Srceenplay wrote:@all.
Engage with me.
Anything you wanna talk to me abt ATM or
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:43 pm

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In post 574, Shoshin wrote:
In post 571, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 566, Shoshin wrote:Dunn, I'd like an answer to this:
In post 470, Shoshin wrote:
In post 462, Dunnstral wrote:you can have a 4 though mariar
Why 4? Who's lower?
Nico can have a 1 for being useless, Vax can get a 0 for being my quest and being scummy anyway, other than that I don't know, and don't know if revealing a lot of #'s is even a good idea
Why is Maria a 4?
Yeah what if I wanted to be a 2!
Also why did you ask about my names out of all of these
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In post 569, MariaR wrote:Shoshin is by far the player that interests me the most atm.
I like her. What's on your mind?
It's really hard to explain the best way to say it is her posts look towny but I don't want to tr them? She's interesting someone I want alive for sure to look at and think about. That's prob the best way I can answer it
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:44 pm

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In post 573, Shoshin wrote:
In post 572, Srceenplay wrote:Engage with me.
What're your top 3 scumreads/townreads at the moment?
Didn’t I just give this?

Town is TBG and Taly
In post 489, Srceenplay wrote:Ok. New scum team.
Espe
Pp
Maria.

Low points
DV
The Worst
Nico
Action

Everyone else is a little higher.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:45 pm

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if you want engagement do it yourself and push yourself into the gamestate.
I bet Maria is scum this game
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:46 pm

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In post 576, the worst wrote:
In post 572, Srceenplay wrote:@all.
Engage with me.
Anything you wanna talk to me abt ATM or
I don’t remember
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:47 pm

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In post 579, MariaR wrote:if you want engagement do it yourself and push yourself into the gamestate.
Huh


I think I just want the game to move along at this point.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:47 pm

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then vote that instead of just going "engage with me"
I bet Maria is scum this game
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:50 pm

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I’m waiting on Taly words of wisdom first.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:52 pm

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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:56 pm

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In post 577, MariaR wrote:It's really hard to explain the best way to say it is her posts look towny but I don't want to tr them? She's interesting someone I want alive for sure to look at and think about. That's prob the best way I can answer it
Do you think she'll be easier to sort later, or like... it's better to leave her alive on the probability that she's town?
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:56 pm

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In post 584, Pine wrote:Image
piney y u bein lazy
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:57 pm

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In post 576, the worst wrote:
In post 572, Srceenplay wrote:@all.
Engage with me.
Anything you wanna talk to me abt ATM or
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:58 pm

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I wish I had more clarity at the moment.

I'm heavily debating on even posting a readslist, with the more I think about the gamestate.

My rankings are slowly becoming about
"Reads AND Interactions"
instead of concrete reads

I'm still typing up my major post though.
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"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:00 pm

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In post 587, Pine wrote:
In post 576, the worst wrote:
In post 572, Srceenplay wrote:@all.
Engage with me.
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I lol'd
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:00 pm

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....wait that's the wrong way to react to a proposal T_T
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:03 pm

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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:08 pm

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In post 585, the worst wrote:
In post 577, MariaR wrote:It's really hard to explain the best way to say it is her posts look towny but I don't want to tr them? She's interesting someone I want alive for sure to look at and think about. That's prob the best way I can answer it
Do you think she'll be easier to sort later, or like... it's better to leave her alive on the probability that she's town?
Both for the most part
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:16 pm

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In post 592, MariaR wrote:
In post 585, the worst wrote:
In post 577, MariaR wrote:It's really hard to explain the best way to say it is her posts look towny but I don't want to tr them? She's interesting someone I want alive for sure to look at and think about. That's prob the best way I can answer it
Do you think she'll be easier to sort later, or like... it's better to leave her alive on the probability that she's town?
Both for the most part
sweet good takes I agree strongly w the second one
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:20 pm

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So instead of being a complete eye and read pain, I'm going to spoiler my questions and non-quoted answers to each individual.

Each spoiler contains thoughts I have on almost every angle of the gamestate, so....

I'm also keeping the spoilers concise and to the point.

Spoiler: TehBrawlGuy
In hindsight, my arguments toward you weren't as well thought out as I believed. :P

Given your recent posts, I can actually see town-motivation behind you not giving a lot of information about your reads, and you being uncertain about Me/PP - even though I'm town, and a dichotomy D1 is really unhelpful here. While I think it's towny, I don't think we should lie or make our numbers randomized in any part of our list.

Town needs to congeal on lower numbers, but it is easy for scum to blend behind this plan. I do agree scum can overpower with numbers, but with accountability D2, don't you think it's far-fetched that scum would be so similar, if not the same as each other in ranking?

1)
Why do you think
PP
is most likely scum with his role?
2)
Nahdia
has disagreed with you BOTH on your plans for the day, and
PP's
alignment, but what makes you think they're town?
3)
Who would you recommend having as a 0 for the day?
4)
Stop with the WIFOM on
me/PP
. What about his posts ping you, and why are you uncertain of your read over me?
5)
How do you feel about the sudden surge of town-ish reads coming to you?


Spoiler: Fire Assassain
It's funny you say
Chara's
reads D1 aren't high quality even though you're dead wrong about me. :igmeou:

I asked you in my other post about how your reads have progressed, but you haven't moved on or expanded on your scumread with
Me/Espe
and you continue to not provide more content aside from replies.

Do you have any ideas on how town should plan for the ranking phase? Any insight on the current pushes or thoughts?


Spoiler: Chara
1)
What is your read on
Fire and PP
?
2)
What do you think about
Maria
postponing her thoughts on you?

I see why lying is helpful, but I also can easily see how that would confuse town in discussion D2. Scum can, and are probably lying now. Other than accountability, honesty, and interactions, town has nothing to discern what's true and not.

So do you think lying is better than us ultimately choosing someone to give a collective 0 over?


Spoiler: PenguinPower
Why are you only seemingly interested in my posts and your claim so far? Your ISO is almost entirely about these two things so far, and I don't know why you keep your vote on me when you're not expanding on your thoughts over me, or discussing your reads.
In post 380, PenguinPower wrote:I've decided that I am enough of a negatively utility at this point that I'm going to claim.

I'm Shadoweh. Conditional Ascetic Townie with the passive that no actions from someone ranked lower than me can affect me, including night kills. This is why I suspected Punreader's BP claim.

Since I'm likely to be ranked low...claiming seemed to be beneficial.
Can you clarify how
Pun's
BP claim makes you suspect him given your role?

Are you wary he'd have NKed you if you were higher than you in ranking? Because I'm not sure why he would? And why is you claiming this role out of the gate beneficial for town right now?

He hinted at a second condition, but not an action. So do you think his claim could more likely be from scum? You stated that you wanted to reassess him but you never followed up with that.


Spoiler: Espeonage
1)
How do you feel about multiple people suspecting
DV
at the moment?
2)
Can you elaborate on why you don't see the
PP
scumreads? Because so far, he's my most solid scumread, and while that can change, it's still one of the best I've got for a potential 0.
3)
Do you have any scumreads? I haven't seen much of you explaining them here.
4)
What mode of action do you think town should take for this day?
5)
How do you feel about
Nahdia
wanting to end the day quickly, and
TBG's
response to it?


Spoiler: Screenplay
I'm wary that all the claims in this thread have not been all town-motivated.

1)
Give me your thoughts and assessment of
Pun
and
PP's
claims.
2)
What do you think of
Shoshin
?
3)
Do you think we have deepwolfs at the moment?
4)
Why are you unsure about
DV's
post after some thought?
5)
Talk to me about
Nahdia
and
Pine
. I don't quite know how to read them yet.


Spoiler: Dunnstral
Dunnstral wrote:I didn't come here for 0's
I didn't come here for 0's either, but that's not going to show people that I'm actually town and I shouldn't be given them.

1)
What is your stance on
Chara
, as well as
MariaR
not giving reads on you both in depth?
2)
Do you have any scumreads?

Talk to me about
Shoshin
, I see the curiosity there but I don't know why people aren't doing much about it.

Can you sell me on why I SHOULDN'T give
Fire
below a 5?


Pine,
I WOULD spoiler my post to you but you've been extremely open with posting random GIFs and creating content that I could've said myself, so I'm making sure you see this post and reply to it.

Has
Penguin's
claim changed your read about them?

Nahdia,
welcome!

I read through your ISO and nodded a lot; but why is
PP's
claim towny?
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:21 pm

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I don't think I've ever really played like this in a game before ._.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:28 pm

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Lying is
ONLY
fine done in reasonable doses,
UNTIL
D2.

I may post a readslist, but it may be slightly different from my rankings.

I may post rankings, but it may be subject to change in some form.

I feel weird and sucky for not coming to the thread WITH an elaborate readslist, but I'm not sure how helpful a ranking list would be at this point.

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"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:28 pm

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k taly spoke not vote
VOTE: end day
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:37 pm

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It'd also be nice that
Vax/Espe/Fire/Dunn
all gave thoughts on each other; they don't have to give thoughts on the person they want to have a high score, tho
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:38 pm

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In post 597, MariaR wrote:k taly spoke not vote
VOTE: end day
ty
Were you expecting me to do something?
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
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