Minuet's Trio [Game Over]

[Wisdom]

hai

[Wisdom]

oh yeah
pseudo-rvs: kaede

hai

[Wisdom]

i dont know andriod but this^ pinged me for trying too hard

[Wisdom]

^distancing

[Wisdom]

last time i stopped myself from pushing you you were scum

not happening again

[Wisdom]

i was referring to pokemon
i was townreading you in mylo

[Wisdom]

dont tell me how to distance with my buddies

bet you wont suspect im scum with kaede now

[Wisdom]

because of our excellent scumtheatre

[Wisdom]

Wisdom Why do you think and I quote 'trying too hard' is AI is scummy in this case. I understand the logic behind scum trying too hard to look towny but do you think it's so unbelievable for town to be this way as well?

scum want to look towny
town dont want to look towny
sadly, there are some town who try to look towny, but fortunately it's not that often
so following the probabilities trying too hard most likely comes from scum

[Wisdom]

What do you find scummy about Kaede? Do you think older games could be clouding your judgment and making you have paranoia about her?

i dont really have any kind of read on kaede
i have an extensive history with her and i was making a reference to it

[Wisdom]

i dont know andriod but this^ pinged me for trying too hard

Meanwhile, right above their post:

Town
Brian Skies - The pinnacle of what obvtown should be.

Less Town
andriod18 - Can't even spell its own name.
Katsuki - Who doesn't like cupcakes?

Somewhat Town
Wisdom - One of the more underrated D&D stats.
mastina - Might get herself lynched anyway.
Human Sequencer - Somebody has to defend the RVS.
grapes - The Mod felt the need to confirm something from him for whatever reason.

No Idea
Purrcocet - Is this supposed to be a floating cat head?
Ginngie - Pick a color.
Nosferatu - Colors are hard.
Moment - No idea.
Dunnstral - No idea.

A Little Scummy
Kokichi Oma - Danganronpa.

Less Scummy
zMuffinMan - Just look at that avatar.

Scum
Nancy Drew 39 - What happened to the other 38 of them?
Kaede Akamatsu - Danganronpa.
hebichan - The most pretentious Pokemon.

VOTE: Kaede Akamatsu

if you think thats brian "trying too hard" you didnt bother to read and realize it was a joke post

[Wisdom]

Seems like scum wisdom so far

what is your idea of scum wisdom?

[Wisdom]

consider me voting kaede in those

[Wisdom]

not that thats anywhere close to accurate but im anything but awkward here

[Wisdom]

read the rules, hebi
no votes till grapes votes

[Wisdom]

VOTE: kaede

human, yes, nos was pretty much right

[Wisdom]

kaede i wasnt saying I think youre doing it here
if thats what nos said i misunderstood
i just agreed you try to fake your emotional town game when youre scum, eg you overact to me pushing you

[Wisdom]

both

[Wisdom]

im still nullreading you so B and no, it might be town or it might be fake

[Wisdom]

VOTE: hebi

Lets vote this for now

[Wisdom]

kokichi pls

[Wisdom]

wrong assumption
my scumgame emulates my towngame, trust me, you wont know when you see it

[Wisdom]

on the other hand, refer to my wiki about how i can be totally different in different playerlists
wrote it 6 years ago, still relevant

[Wisdom]

dont like nancy either

[Wisdom]

kaede did something change your mind about hebi?

[Wisdom]

^agreed

[Wisdom]

good relevant read (just the first 5 pages)

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=75937

[Wisdom]

nos why is muffin town?

[Wisdom]

Katsuki, Moment, Purr, Hebi, Gingie

Is there any reason I should be townreading any of those

[Wisdom]

Moment i wanna know why hebi is town

[Wisdom]

is she different as scum?

[Wisdom]

nancy scum are not obligated to agree with your wagon
whoever goes against it isnt automatically town
youre still thinking in black and white

[Wisdom]

Kaede i scumread katsuki in every game too
If i go by your logic i should only vote people i dont know d1

[Wisdom]

nancy scum are not obligated to agree with your wagon
whoever goes against it isnt automatically town
youre still thinking in black and white

I disagree about the black and white thing. Tell my why scum!Purr objected to my wagon then?

Scum know you are a mislynch
Thus if scum stay away from your wagon they get towncred for not participating in it
If they can let it happen without getting their hands dirty it works best for them
Some might even loudly object for added effect - then they can demand they are listened to the next day and push another mislynch

Therefore, someone objecting to your lynch doesnt mean they are town. Thats a fallacy created by your mind because you immediately think "what a nice person, they dont want to lynch me". But you have to look deeper

[Wisdom]

Dunnstral townreading Kaede makes me not want to vote there.

I dont understand this either

[Wisdom]

Not really but his kaede townread has nothing to do with it

[Wisdom]

anyway ill be honest with you
in necromancer i mostly ignored you after i figured youre town because youre moonlogicking and surfacey and i cant really follow your arguments
most likely thats what will happen here too

[Wisdom]

Nothing is "natural" about hebi's opening
If you mean the joking, she did the same thing as scum

[Wisdom]

Muffin why is Moment town?

[Wisdom]

No im showing your hebi read is bs
Since youre the next im lynching after she flips red

[Wisdom]

dunno, seems pretty transparently town to me. i legit don't even see where the scum reads are coming from

why is nancy town? ill expand on my read if you expand on yours

Youre mistaking wallposting for towniness
Theres no real town motivation in anythinf hes done

[Wisdom]

nancy is pretty obvtown
Read the first 5 pages of the game I linked

[Wisdom]

VOTE: moment

[Wisdom]

Did you read them?

[Wisdom]

then get lynched

[Wisdom]

Katsuki how about you actually play
You can do it when you want to

[Wisdom]

VOTE: hebi

[Wisdom]

thats precisely why i said it
If you only played like this from early on and didnt give me a headache about your alignment itd be better

[Wisdom]

i know
i checked your account

i dunno where to vote zzz
every wagon has people i both do and dont like on it

Vote hebi, we'll sort grapes later

[Wisdom]

based on what?

[Wisdom]

VOTE: moment

[Wisdom]

We could just lynch wisdom

or you can stop being bad

[Wisdom]

i think you meant to say if nancy flips town then wisdom is town
What you said doesnt follow from your argument

[Wisdom]

also please dont accuse me of simple minded thinking when you just voted katsuki
Katsuki is always scummy, you disliking him is as simple as my initial dislike of nancy

[Wisdom]

Moment is only being townread on style

[Wisdom]

the way he analyzes and makes lengthy posts makes him look more town than he is

[Wisdom]

I think it makes sense for scum you to not vote scum nancy. If nancy is town I have no issues with you. Considering I think Nancy is town at the moment you can see what option I think it is.

sure but wheres the scum nancy town wisdom option? You said that scum nancy points to scum wisdom and reasoned with "scum wisdom votes town nancy"

[Wisdom]

A bunch of people voting at once isn't scummy

And yes, Wisdom is scummy and moment looks town

I mean, look at the way he analyzes and makes long posts

ikr
While that wisdom guy just posts oneliners, must be scum

[Wisdom]

The votes mean nothing to me
all town wagons happen

[Wisdom]

and even if theres scum in them it absolutely means nothing for moment

[Wisdom]

no?

scum-moment starts a wagon on nancy, some townies join in, maybe one of his buddies

totally plausible

[Wisdom]

Kaede, vote moment with us?

[Wisdom]

Nancy who do you see as most likely buddies for moment when he flips red?

[Wisdom]

Im actually less confident on hebi flipping red after a red moment flip

The bs reasoning he gave for his townread on her as well as the defending hes been doing feel more like wking than defending a buddy

[Wisdom]

Brian how do you feel about voting moment with us

[Wisdom]

this isnt your first game with me, no excuses

[Wisdom]

You tell me
Are you arguing im not usually overconfident?

[Wisdom]

right
Its time to note you did the same thing in Perpetual Mylo when I caught wicked
Consider my eyes on you when moment flips red

[Wisdom]

For whoever has a little time on their hands;

Good read: Perpetual Mylo III

Features:
-Me catching a verbose and manipulative scum yet nobody listening to me
-Scum Dunnstral shading me
-Scum Kaede

[Wisdom]

"a mafia"

because i wasnt also scumreading brian and mulch

Keep discrediting me, it only makes me more confident

[Wisdom]

Town: {Nancy, andriod, Kokichi, HS, Nos}
Nulltown: {Katsuki, Purrcocet, Brian, mastina}
Null: {Kaede, muffin, Ginngie}
Nullscum: {hebi, grapes}
Scum: {Dunn, Moment}

[Wisdom]

muffin youre either wrong or scum and the more you post the more im leaning the latter

[Wisdom]

youre absolutely wrong on nancy and gingie has done nothing scum indicative

youre voting katsuki when you know how he is

youre ignoring actually scummy people

so yeah

[Wisdom]

In other news, i had started a townread on Kaede around the hebi vote mindmeld time, but it's now vanished. I don't like the flip-flop on hebi, I don't like the sheeping on Katsuki, I don't like her 578 fluff with nothing game-related in it (such as an opinion on Moment). I liked backing off Nancy but that's not necessarily town indicative.

[Wisdom]

Me: Wisdom is acting overconfident in his reads

Wisdom: I always act overconfident in my reads, also Dunn is discrediting me for making me admit to that

cool twisting
Actual happening:

Dunn: Wisdom is acting overconfident

Wisdom: Youve seen me being overconfident (and proven right), you cant use it to discredit me or scumread me

Dunn: No that's not what I said, you could be scum faking it, either way it's not a good way to follow you (why is it not a good idea when you've seen me being right? Yeah. You're discrediting me basing it on my overconfidence because you don't want people to follow me.)

Wisdom: bs, you're discrediting me and likely scum with Moment.

[Wisdom]

moment isn't scum. neither is dunnstral

lol

[Wisdom]

yeah muffin

scum are lurkers and people who post nothing

that's how it always goes

it's never manipulative people who twist things or push agendas

you are way better than this

[Wisdom]

moment/dunn/kaede/grapes

muffin if one is wrong

hebi and gingie in reserves because theyre individually scummy but dont really fit the scumteam

[Wisdom]

three scum in 17p?

[Wisdom]

youre right apparently, three scum

moment/dunn/kaede

[Wisdom]

again, terrible reason to townread her @nancy

[Wisdom]

realistically i want to purge these names:

nosferatu
hebi
kaede
ginngie
nancy

so basically policy lynches
interesting youre not including grapes though

[Wisdom]

grapes is town probably

and so are most if not all people on that list

[Wisdom]

dude

all of those people have done nothing but be their underwhelming selves

how do you expect anyone to take you seriously

[Wisdom]

im not going to lynch kaede today but if I am right about Moment she's very likely scum with him

[Wisdom]

huh.

talk to me, kaede, do you agree with my reads?

[Wisdom]

to kaede

[Wisdom]

Nos looks like scum

if you think this how come you voted moment?

[Wisdom]

Nos is pushing moment
If you think nos might be scum you wouldnt vote moment so easily

[Wisdom]

thats cool, now vote moment

we have 3 days, your vote is on me, and im not happening

[Wisdom]

which is why im not okay with it

[Wisdom]

like, explain to me what youre thinking

is nos bussing?

[Wisdom]

fine

why are you scumreading nos? have you played with him before?

[Wisdom]

i dont find that much of a reason for a scumread

[Wisdom]

Unofficial VC

Moment [5] - Nosferatu, Nancy Drew 39, Purrcocet, Wisdom, Kaede Akamatsu
Katsuki [3] - zMuffinMan, Dunnstral, andriod18
Wisdom [2] - Kokichi Oma, Katsuki
hebichan [2] - grapes, Brian Skies
Kokichi Oma [1] - mastina
mastina [1] - hebichan
Ginngie [1] - Moment
Kaede Akamatsu [1] - Human Sequencer

Not Voting [1] - Ginngie

9 to lynch, 3 days left

[Wisdom]

cases are not needed in order to lynch scum

[Wisdom]

no we really dont

anyone who reads the game can see hes scum

and that you are scum

[Wisdom]

it was over before it started

you just needed an excuse to posture

[Wisdom]

the point of that game is to show why dunn is scum, not to show im good at catching scum
thats already known

[Wisdom]

huh.

talk to me, kaede, do you agree with my reads?

Like. I just dont see Town!Wisdom saying this. He has a different tone to him as town. Maybe I'm just going crazy?

You are
Dont make me paranoid now that im townreading you
I don't have a specific tone
And there are people who are special because of past circumstances, see my interactions with mollie, mara, kaede in games. These people i treat slightly different than i treat others

[Wisdom]

Kats and Moment both scumclaimed and we can't decide which one to lynch first.

how did katsuki scumclaim

[Wisdom]

i know
i checked your account

i dunno where to vote zzz
every wagon has people i both do and dont like on it

Vote hebi, we'll sort grapes later

wis/hebi or am i bad?

Youre bad. If i want to bus, i bus.

[Wisdom]

I would lynch in Brian Skies/Human Sequencer/Kokichi Oma/Purrcoet/grapes/andriod/Nosferatu

ew.
Other than maybe grapes all these are town
How about you vote moment instead?

[Wisdom]

I would not lynch any of Dunnstral/Wisdom/hebichan/Kaede Akamatsu/Ginngie/Nancy Drew/Katsuki; all of them are townreads.

Why is dunn town?

[Wisdom]

Basically at first I got excited coz my SRs were voting each other, then I realized that moment would've it very easy to switch to Wisdom if he wanted to, which is his CW, which makes me think he's not playing for survival so it's more likely i was just flat out wrong on him.

are you kidding me
scum are not obligated to vote their counterwagon
youre acting like nancy now

[Wisdom]

Here's my current dilemma.
Do i trust mastina that Kokichi Oma is scum?
Do i trust Kokichi Oma that Wisdom is scum?
Do i just go for nos?

Like Wisdom's someone i cant read D1 outside of extreme circumstances, Kokichi keeps saying that he's scum, but mastina says Kokichi's scum, and i think both of Kokichi and mastina are town, and all this is making my head spin.

AND youre preparing for a hope on me as well
Consider yourself back in my scumreads

[Wisdom]

i don't really feel comfortable living in a universe where people I think are town are scumreading nancy

This so much

[Wisdom]

i don't really feel comfortable living in a universe where people I think are town are scumreading nancy

why

Because read the fucking game
Nancy townspewd like she did in Necromancer and both me and Kokichi pointed to Necromancer and declared her obvtown

[Wisdom]

I mostly skimmed the last pages because I dont have much time, but its still moment/dunn/kaede.

[Wisdom]

lol at the android counterwagon

stay on moment guys. I trust you to lynch kaede later. I dont trust you to lynch moment later.

[Wisdom]

Ill rethink dunn because i guess nancy has a point about all 3 hoping on her wagon being unlikely

[Wisdom]

Ugh fine
VOTE: kaede

[Wisdom]

I better not regret this
Every time i let a manipulative scum live they kill me and win the game

[Wisdom]

android is town, grapes.

[Wisdom]

Stop with these shit wagons. Kaede and Nancy are both town

nancy is
kaede isn't

[Wisdom]

No it isnt
Go read Perpetual Mylo and pokemon where scum kaede emulated this perfectly

[Wisdom]

Wisdom is scum. His tone is way off and feels posturing. Wisdom can be vigged later, though.

yep keep thinking you have any clue about how to read me

[Wisdom]

In 17 players is it usually 3 or 4 scum?

Fakegod has used 3 in all his games so 3 is the safe guess

[Wisdom]

Ill link you to specific kaede posts when i get home

[Wisdom]

Because im townreading you @kokichi

Stop assuming i play the same in all games
Read my scumgames if you have to

[Wisdom]

how is android buddying kaede

[Wisdom]

yes kokichi, they are
Not that kaede cant post that as town, but its not a towntell is the point
Kaede and I have long history of me tunneling her and she getting frustrated
She will get frustrated as town and she will fake it as scum

[Wisdom]

how is android buddying kaede

Just read his posts?

I have
What specifically do you feel is an attempt to buddy her and why does he even feel the need to?

[Wisdom]

The posts text is similar, but you can obviously tell the 2nd one is devoid of emotion.

thats bs, it was ate and it worked

[Wisdom]

When i buddy someone its because i want to manipulate them into not scumreading me or into lynching the people i want
Are we having a different definition of 'buddying' here?
If you just mean his townread on her doesnt feel natural thats not buddying, just a bs townread

[Wisdom]

ok
to that, ill just say town have bs townreads too and im not interested
Kaede is an emotional player and many players would fall in the trap of default townreading her
Thats what the case with android is, he just doesn't know any better

[Wisdom]

I don't see why not but I don't think android is your buddy anyway

[Wisdom]

me neither

[Wisdom]

Android why are you townreading kaede, in a few words

[Wisdom]

Kaede's aggressive behavior in posts like 23 29161 I don't see her doing as scum
Along with the flow of her tone ( 89149150) feels really towny

Have you played with scum-kaede?

[Wisdom]

Then you should know shes capable of such posts as scum

[Wisdom]

If youve played with sakura its ridiculously obvious

[Wisdom]

wrong vote

[Wisdom]

also nancy is town

[Wisdom]

nos pls

[Wisdom]

3 more votes needed

[Wisdom]

sorry kaede, your ate stopped working after pokemon

[Wisdom]

Yes, that post's intent is to make me feel bad about voting you, so its ate
Which ill be ignoring
For future reference in case you do flip town, if you want me to see youre town ate is not the way. Try not lock voting into obvtown and doing nothing instead.

[Wisdom]

lul k

[Wisdom]

Ill link you to specific kaede posts when i get home

is this still needed? Kokichi figured it out by himself

[Wisdom]

VOTE: moment

time to go back to this
Im not convinced kaede is town, but moment was always the better lynch

[Wisdom]

Gingie is town, katsuki most likely still town

[Wisdom]

nos pls
Kaede can fake everything shes doing is the point

[Wisdom]

Also moment needs votes
Im disappointed people didnt vote him after kaede's claim

[Wisdom]

So basically you're admitting to not being able to read me if you're town here, it's a catch all.

yes, do you have a point here? I admitted i cant read you at the end of our last game

[Wisdom]

I dont care about the double claim

Unless scum somehow know there's a vanilla cop and kaede wanted to draw the cc, i don't see it as something she likely fakeclaims

[Wisdom]

ill take you seriously when you arent voting me

[Wisdom]

Vanilla cop points to existence of mafia goon

Maybe android's thing becomes relevant now

[Wisdom]

nah im townreading you

yeah maybe double vanilla cop, its not like its that strong a role
I find it more likely than kaede deciding to claim that out of everything else

[Wisdom]

pedit: you mean androids kneejerk "hey look town actually isn't all powerroles rofl" that i pointed out earlier

yes
And his "goon can be in role madness"

[Wisdom]

also android has stayed far away from the moment wagon

Im going with moment/android/Dunn

[Wisdom]

not why i wanted to lynch her
The meta came up because kokichi was saying this is town kaede

[Wisdom]

no, the main reason ive been okay with her lynch is she makes sense as scum with moment

which would be obvious if you were reading the game

[Wisdom]

And unsurprisingly, tons of pages later, everyone keeps ignoring me and nobody votes moment.

Gingie is a shit wagon and so is kaede. Both are flipping town.

Ank, go read any game ive had with kaede/sakura and youll get why our interactions are like they are. I don't treat her like other players.

[Wisdom]

I would have much prefferred a Moment wagon.

Then fucking vote him

[Wisdom]

I'm tired

Of this.

I don't want this to happen anymore.

All I want is to destroy my scum meta, somehow, but Im not rolling scum to do so, and all I get is this kind of treatment again.

You apparently dont care about my advice but ill try again
Dont AtE. Try to gamesolve, without involving your emotions. Like, dont tunnel Nancy because you think shes emotionally manipulating you. Emotions arent something others can sympathize with and see you are town (unless they are the kind of player who always townread emotions, and is why you get those townreads you dont understand). They need solid logic.

[Wisdom]

Kaede giving up and then coming back and giving up again doesn't feel like town genuinely giving up at all

It feels like scum trying to dodge the rope by looking like she's given up

If i told you she used to replace out everytime i started pushing her because she believed i would never stop until she was dead, would you be willing to accept it might not be fake?

[Wisdom]

Those posts you guys love to quote about andriod talking about a goon mafia and then asking if it's role madness?

Guess what, she's a vanilla cop.

What?
A vanilla cop thinks its role madness?
How about no

Have i mentioned its moment/android/dunn?

[Wisdom]

no, the main reason ive been okay with her lynch is she makes sense as scum with moment

which would be obvious if you were reading the game

i forgot to a reply, but you've literally never said this.

read your own iso

VOTE: ginngie

Ill quote later if you need but this is stupid
Go to where i voted kaede and youll see i wanted to stay on moment but eventually reluctantly moved to kaede
In general you can find my reasons by following the flow of the game, i dont make cases

[Wisdom]

vote moment, nancy.

[Wisdom]

And with that im not moving my vote.
Consequences be damned.

Come on kaede. Nancy is town. Moment isnt. It isnt hard.

[Wisdom]

youre strongly wrong

Gingie is town.

You

are strongly wrong and need to stop.

[Wisdom]

then your top two town reads have a shitty read too

We’ll see won’t we?

Anyway, if Kaede changes her mind/a moment wagon is actually viable today, somebody please mention me before EOD and I’ll switch. Unless/until that happens:

UNVOTE: Moment

VOTE: Kaede

Stay on moment ffs

[Wisdom]

Vote kaede when you see this post or we will be forced a NL

Kokichi vote moment if you care about that.

[Wisdom]

sigh

Ego is more important than lynching scum apparently

[Wisdom]

Muffin if you find moment acceptable, vote moment

Nancy, gingie is not getting lynched. Cut the bs and vote scum. Kaede is as much a mislynch as gingie

[Wisdom]

this, nancy

If everyone says the same as you nobody will switch
If people see moment being voted they will
Just listen to me and do it

[Wisdom]

moment/android/dunn

kokichi is just bad

[Wisdom]

we cant manage ego rather

If kaede, muffin, kokichi and nancy didnt refuse to vote moment he would be l-1

[Wisdom]

but nooo lets not lynch scum and blame the only one whos been shouting to lynch scum for ages, right, Kokichi?

[Wisdom]

all i know is youre one of the people preventing a lynch

[Wisdom]

I could consider him if one of my reads are wrong
His push on me is bad for someone who's played with both me and kaede enough, hes not voting moment, and hebi was scummy

[Wisdom]

3 hours 50 minutes

3 votes needed.

[Wisdom]

Deadline lynches are so stupid like does it really take 66 fking pages to figure out who to vote for?

I miss the days when we ended games in 3hrs total game time.

Vote: Moment

You mean it takes 66 pages for people to listen to me

[Wisdom]

2 more

[Wisdom]

just because youre a weak player and cant figure out scum on d1 it doesnt mean theres anything wrong with site meta
enjoy pushing your nolynch

[Wisdom]

i don't care about games i wasnt in
In every game ive played with you youve been useless

[Wisdom]

oh wow you lynched one scum
Who caught the other three?

[Wisdom]

Thats right, the person youre discrediting here and trying to stop the lynch he wants

[Wisdom]

Android and Dunn are the other two, youre welcome

Maybe ank if one is wrong

[Wisdom]

we do, dont worry

and read the game about the kaede read

[Wisdom]

Moment [9] - Wisdom, Nosferatu, Brian Skies, Purrcocet, muffin, kaede, ankamius, grapes, kokichi

[Wisdom]

well if nancy is around she could vote to account for loved or something

[Wisdom]

katsuki's claim looks like a gambit at first glance

I might be biased due to last game tho

[Wisdom]

There's mechanically scum out of Katsuki/Nos here

Why would Nos claim that as scum, leaving 2 mafia to die?

Nah, katsuki fakeclaims as town

[Wisdom]

There's mechanically scum out of Katsuki/Nos here

Why would Nos claim that as scum, leaving 2 mafia to die?

Nah, katsuki fakeclaims as town

so why are we rushing into a lynch before everyone can post?

Dont ask me

[Wisdom]

Wisdom or Kaede need to be vig shot.

dude you better not be town

[Wisdom]

the fact ginngie is claiming to be a vanilla cop who targeted mastina of all players N1 is scummy at best so who cares about anything else she says.

not really

[Wisdom]

Katsuki-scum wanted to gambit to get free kills; this would mean that town overall was probably in a pretty good spot reads-wise despite the mislynch D1.

How do you feel about katsuki bussing Gingie?
Thats what gingie's reactions make me think
As well as katsuki's "powerlynch me if he flips town"

[Wisdom]

if gingie does flip scum katsuki should not be given a pass for the rest of the game at least
It does look like hes planning to coast on this and lead the next lynches

[Wisdom]

yep keep thinking you have any clue about how to read me

[Wisdom]

we already had this talk
if it offered you nothing the first time i don't see why youre initiating it again
have fun with your sticky reads

[Wisdom]

You think Gingie is scum?

[Wisdom]

Ive already said

Either katsuki is town gambiting like he did last game or he's scum bussing him
Im townreading gingie so i was leaning towards the former but his reactions made me think it might be the latter

In any case i dont believe katsuki

[Wisdom]

the motivation is he then rides the cred and wins

[Wisdom]

look at posts like this

>POWERLYNCH GINNGIE WITH GREAT JUSTICE
>IF SCUM, GAME IS WON WE PROCEED WITH ANK/DUNSTRALL
>IF TOWN, I GET VIGGED/POWERLYNCHED D3

He is already planning to townlead after a red flip
And the last part shows hes confident gin is town so he wont be in danger.
Those two together point to bussing

Also see gingie's weird reaction to this push

[Wisdom]

hes confident gin is town

isnt*

[Wisdom]

HEY WISDOM

SINCE YOURE TOO FUCKING STUPID TO REALIZE

EXPLAIN TO ME HOW IM GOING TO FAKECLAIM A FUCKING AMNESIAC ROLE AS SCUM WHEN THE AMNESIAC CAN PROBABLY SEND THEIR RESULT TO A DIFFERENT PLAYER TOMORROW?

YOURE ACTUALLY SO bAD SOTP PLAYING MAFIA

simple, there is no amnesiac role

[Wisdom]

VOTE: gin

[Wisdom]

kaede its just wifom

katsuki's very likely his buddy