SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

[Pine]

Heyo! Just had a few games end, and was just looking for something to join.

[Pine]

doot

I haven't gotten around to reading. I plead babby. What should I know?

[Pine]

Is this how I SUPP Mafia? Asking for a friend.

[Pine]

I just read the first half of the game on my lunch break. I concur that Penguin looks like scum

[Pine]

ALSO STOP USING BUZZWORDS LIKE OMGUS AND LAMIST.

DO YOU WANT TOWN TO LOSE? STOP SCUMCLAIMING OR BEING OVERTLY BAD TOWN.

They're not (just) buzzwords, frand. They have legit scumhunting value.

[Pine]

...doot?

[Pine]

So hey you guyz

EP was just in the Fox Discord just now, and told me that Brawl is Town. Like legit confTown. Seems SUPER UNPROFESSIONAL to me, but whatev.

They also hinted that if we were smart, we’d downvote Punreader. I dunno. They might be drunkmodding.

[Pine]

Yeah EP was suuuuuuuper drunk in the Fox Discord last night, and let slip that Taly is Town. They also suggested we revisit voting Penguin off the island.

I dunno. Maybe I should report them to listmod for gamethrowing?

[Pine]

Oh hey, EP just told me that rating Nahdia pretty low is a good idea.

(Not in the real SUPP tho, she’s pretty awesome, even if she’s a damnable squirrel)

[Pine]

It's possibly borderline in regards to impersonating the mod. I'll ask it to stop right now but won't take further action.

Sorry, my bad. I didn't think about it from this angle.

Obviously EP has not been giving me the answers.

[Pine]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Nahdia why around anti-Town, frand?

[Pine]

[Pine]

@all.
Engage with me.

Anything you wanna talk to me abt ATM or

[Pine]

[Pine]

Taly: PP's claim is functionally a counterclaim to Punreader. That's why they're both getting 0s from me. Neither of them are strong utility to Town, and they're especially not useful post-claim.

I'm happy to eliminate them now.

[Pine]

Still comfortable nuking both PP and PR

[Pine]

Ummm, so at peril of falsely giving off the classic “Hunting the SK” scumtell, it occurs to me that PR’s claim would be perfect third party. Are we confirmed not to have one?

[Pine]

Protected from people below them, kills people ranked higher. That screams “self-aligned” to me.

I’m not opposed to leashing it.

[Pine]

I checked queue, rule set, and signup thread. No guarantee or hint of wincon composition was made.

PR is Cheetory. It’s entirely possible he simply wins if he’s ever on top.

[Pine]

also holy shit I want to point out that he's exactly the wang vigilante

its real guys

Holy shit you’re right

[Pine]

Sup friend.

Still self-immolating I see.

You still suck at reading me.

[Pine]

Pine where you at here with scum/town

Your usually more opinionated... but i ... have missed some.

I started trying to score people earlier based on reads, but there's just a giant gulf in the middle because half the playerlist is lurky as fuck.

MariaR, DeasVail, Espeonage, Dunnstral, Nahdia, ReubenWasFine, Vaxkiller, the worst, NicoRobin, Srceenplay, Shoshin

10-Pine
10-TehBrawlGuy
10-Chara
9-Taly
8-Fire Assassin
7
6
6
5
5
4
4
3
2
1
0-Nahdia
0-Penguin Power
0-Punreader

[Pine]

Also ftr I think Penguin Power is Town these days, but I don't want to take that risk. Those roles are essentially counterclaims of one another, so Town!PP gets a 21-gun salute as he goes down.

Unless he flips scum, in which case the salute is more for turning my read around at the last minute rather than for an honorable sacrifice.

@TW: I think it was you who mentioned not wanting to downvote PP - this is why you can't. Stay the course. You can't dismiss the possibility that it's well-executed AtE. I respect PP as a player too much to dismiss that possibility.

[Pine]

I started trying to score people earlier based on reads, but there's just a giant gulf in the middle because half the playerlist is lurky as fuck.

Most of the players you're not ranking aren't lurky at all...

And yet a lot of them are. I didn't say ALL of them were. The worst, for example, is active but I can't decide where to put him. I want to rate him highly, but I have a nagging worry that he's playing me.

[Pine]

I'd additionally like to point out:

Sup friend.

Still self-immolating I see.

You still suck at reading me.

Pine has a long history of a particular tactic.
When Pine has any sort of "oh fuck" realization, his response to this is to do

exactly this

and present a nonchalant response in an attempted to appear unfazed by the outcome. It's his first self-defense mechanism to being caught red-handed.

You're quite right! It is a favored tactic. I like it because it mirrors when I am actually unfazed.

You are incorrect. You've never been able to read me well, and it shows. Painfully.

While we're on the subject of favorite tactics, yours is to go all-out when things look bleak, throw everything against the wall and see what sticks. You also write 1000 words when 100 will do, in an effort to appear intent and focused.

[Pine]

I frequently am, actually.

I don’t feel threatened, and I don’t feel that Town is off tilting at windmills.

THAT is what gets me negative and emotional.

[Pine]

actually on the note of lynch-block players, I really don't get Pine being pretty low on rankings. I weakly townread him. Most of his content is NAI and what there is seems to me like a townie who's just chilling waiting for the game to progress.

This guy gets it

[Pine]

You're a good duck, tw.

[Pine]

May your nests be warm and dry, ambassador of Duck Nation.

[Pine]

I don't know your track record with reading Pine tbqh

It's frankly terrible.

[Pine]

Sure

VOTE: End day

[Pine]

I didn't (and kind of don't) care about the game. I replaced in because it was EP doing the asking, and a bunch of my Foxy brethren were in it.

We're still in the preamble, and I've got my zeroes all planned. What exactly am I supposed to be tryharding here?