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Post Post #16 (isolation #0) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:51 pm

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Hi
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Post Post #23 (isolation #1) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:09 am

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Let me help us

VOTE: mutant
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Post Post #24 (isolation #2) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:10 am

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Actually

VOTE: MATH
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Post Post #33 (isolation #3) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:25 am

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I don't think it is the collapse version of this set up:(
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Post Post #40 (isolation #4) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:39 am

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yeah, i remember HWS mentioning some stuff when /inning to mod

i don't think i want my neighbors revealed just yet, they seem p cool
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Post Post #50 (isolation #5) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:01 am

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In post 44, Invisibility wrote:i just gonna use it for silly conversations tbh
i appove this strategy :giggle:
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Post Post #69 (isolation #6) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:08 am

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VOTE: mutant
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Post Post #71 (isolation #7) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:14 am

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?

I don't think I do?
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Post Post #81 (isolation #8) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:12 am

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then what are you doing with your vote
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Post Post #87 (isolation #9) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:03 am

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talk to me maybe and you will find out :neutral:
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Post Post #89 (isolation #10) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:07 am

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and where's fun in that?
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Post Post #97 (isolation #11) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:25 am

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hi Math, game solved?


i dont think people are wking you really.
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Post Post #100 (isolation #12) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:49 am

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In post 98, Mathdino wrote:A scumread on wavemode is implicitly a wk of me since I put him in that aggressive position in the first place
And then forgot the thing that actually set him off on me

I'm strongly townreading him
My disagreement is just that I think he's setting himself up for failure
i got that you are tr wave first time around. i asked because only AA9 and NSG haven't posted yet.
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Post Post #102 (isolation #13) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:51 am

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oh, i thought you were joking about nsg

this makes me sad
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Post Post #105 (isolation #14) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:04 am

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becasue i want to believe
because 65% seems like an odd number
becasue it was rvs

what lynchibility has to do with it
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Post Post #108 (isolation #15) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:18 am

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hard one

my preference has no impact on how things actually are so
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Post Post #109 (isolation #16) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:20 am

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In post 107, UnrealSeal wrote:hard to read currently, most peoples post currently is RVS silliness and i'm bad at reading in general. call me again when I can deathtunnel someone

I like StefanB's posting though, I think he's town.
i sring everything you post

im bad at the game tho
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Post Post #115 (isolation #17) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:44 am

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wow that's harsh
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Post Post #120 (isolation #18) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:49 am

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let's go

VOTE: unrealseal
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Post Post #124 (isolation #19) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:51 am

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promise of brand new wagon + scumread
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Post Post #125 (isolation #20) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:53 am

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eh
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Post Post #131 (isolation #21) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:56 am

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hated the opening, the feeling didn't go away and i feel stronger about Seal than Mutant

no clue how anybody would scumread me this game :giggle:
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Post Post #132 (isolation #22) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:56 am

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couldn't decide if i wanted this pagetop
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Post Post #136 (isolation #23) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:58 am

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thanks for approving my decisions Invis
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Post Post #138 (isolation #24) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:00 am

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sorry?

:(
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Post Post #148 (isolation #25) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:04 am

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he's fine
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Post Post #154 (isolation #26) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:06 am

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oh come on nsg

you can do better than that

becuase he popped up in post review
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Post Post #157 (isolation #27) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:29 am

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nope, that was rvs
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Post Post #159 (isolation #28) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:30 am

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mutant, what're your other reads?
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Post Post #162 (isolation #29) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:38 am

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what do you exactly like about myloninja and seal?
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Post Post #177 (isolation #30) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:10 pm

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In post 165, mutantdevle wrote:By later I mean like day 2 or something.
eh
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Post Post #188 (isolation #31) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:09 am

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In post 185, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 177, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 165, mutantdevle wrote:By later I mean like day 2 or something.
eh
VOTE: mutant
If this is a pressure vote to make me respond to your question sooner than when I've specified then just know it won't work. Anyone who knows me will know that I have never failed to answer a question. So when I tell you I have every intention of explaining my answer later, I mean it. I don't mean "I hope you just forget about it so that I don't have to answer this question".
i don't really care what you meant by that i don't need your early d1 reads on d2.
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Post Post #190 (isolation #32) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:47 am

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BuJaber
StefanB
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Mathdino
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northsidegal
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townlean -> nullish town -> null -> nullish scum -> scumleans; names aren't in any specific order within the groups
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Post Post #192 (isolation #33) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:12 am

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In post 79, UnrealSeal wrote:I don't exactly like Mathdino running around shouting "WOE IS TOWN, WE ARE ALL DOOMED, 2;11 WILL CLAIM OUR SOULS" but his concerns seem to be coming from a town point of view.

VOTE: wavemode gives me bad vibes so I'll just park this here
The opening post was pretty bad, isn't any better. From 'solving' 1v1 straight to sheeping Math, feels like lazy scum.
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Post Post #193 (isolation #34) » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:13 am

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didn't plan on quoting 79 but im glad it did lol
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Post Post #217 (isolation #35) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:39 am

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In post 199, mutantdevle wrote:@Scioness Sajj are you scum reading me purely because I said the equivalent of "I'll explain later"?
no
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Post Post #218 (isolation #36) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:41 am

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In post 210, BuJaber wrote:This is actually a quiet thread for a 13 player game.
And my PT's are even quieter.
do something about it?
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Post Post #219 (isolation #37) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:42 am

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In post 212, Mathdino wrote:my PTs are also quiet, i was hoping you guys would have more stuff to share

i still intend to wagon mutant so
everything i've talked about with stefan has been already talked about in here

why not wagon nsg?
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Post Post #220 (isolation #38) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:49 am

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In post 213, BuJaber wrote:Point I'm trying to make is that this low activity is making uglyduck and Sajj find things that IMO are just not there.
what have i said that you felt you need to dismiss it?
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Post Post #225 (isolation #39) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:33 am

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In post 224, wingedcatgirl wrote:Analyzing gamestates is hard. But right now I'm inclined to VOTE: northsidegal.
could you elaborate
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Post Post #230 (isolation #40) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:39 am

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In post 226, BuJaber wrote:
In post 220, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 213, BuJaber wrote:Point I'm trying to make is that this low activity is making uglyduck and Sajj find things that IMO are just not there.
what have i said that you felt you need to dismiss it?
You've touched on this with mutant and it might be a perspective thing. But basically I think Seal's RVS posts that you talk about are neutral and quite normal for RVS. In your opinion you might be seeing something scummy like you told mutant but I don't and it felt to me that the quietness in thread is motivating you and others to look for things for the sake of looking.
I don't think Seal participated in RVS. It was not random at all.
First 24 hours after the game started the thread was pretty active and that's also the time when Seal posted for the first time.
Now if I didn't have a townread on you I'd be interpretting this differently but as you can see I'm quite open to the possibility that you did in fact find it scummy and have good reason to. So 3 options:
Where's that townread coming from even? What makes it so strong that you didn't reconsider it but you did with UglyDuck?
You are open to the possibility that what I find scummy is a product of boredom.
I thought it was 3 hence the comment. By the way is incredibly hypocritical coming from you. Guess it's a good thing hypocrisy tends to be a towntell, unlike inconsistency which tends to be scummy.
He asked a question and I have answered the question exactly how it was asked, what's hypocritical about it? If you have in mind then idk. I never complained about the game state.
For the record I think nsg has one of those metas where it's almost always better to not lynch them early.
What about NSG meta makes her always better to lynch her later instead of earlier?
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Post Post #233 (isolation #41) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:17 am

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another thing

i'd welcome a wagon on wingedcatgirl if they prodge once more.

or myloninja. d1 flash wagon doesn't sound super bad at this point.
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Post Post #238 (isolation #42) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:55 am

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wave just wrote to my in the hood

the game's officially dead
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Post Post #239 (isolation #43) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:00 am

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BuJaber are you a jelly
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Post Post #240 (isolation #44) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:41 am

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In post 236, BuJaber wrote:Oh sorry D) NSG insists she puts a lot more effort into the game as town than she does as scum and there are past games that support this claim. I have experienced some games of both alignment. Although I admit our last game together her boost in motivation came a little too late. I don't want to speak about that horrid game though point is regardless of what alignment she is and whether or not we lynch her it's best to wait and see if she exposes her alignment through her posting. Inactivity can be a scumtell for her but inactivity is also difficult to read for any player so it's best to wait until we have some posts of hers to analyze.


Pedit - yes this post and my previous posts are directed at Sajj but you are encouraged to read and comment on them
inactivity doesn't really work for NSG ime, yeah.
how long would you give her to display her alignment?
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Post Post #242 (isolation #45) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:52 am

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In post 241, wingedcatgirl wrote:Read some ISOs. Got some feels.
that's not really elaboration I was looking for :(

be more specific, please
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Post Post #246 (isolation #46) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:15 pm

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B) Small point: I don't equate the boredom with finding something scummy. Sure I don't know you but it'd be rather insulting if I thought that your most effective scumhunting is a product of a random ping on something you found while bored. I like to give people more credit than that. So the options in my mind were legitime scumhunting and genuinenly considering Seal's posts are scumtells OR bored and read too much into something that isn't there.
so there were two options in your mind and you decided to reduce my input itt to irrelevant? alright
C) it's hypocritical of you, the person who has probably called out the most number of people to elaborate more, to answer mutant's question with just a 'no'. You don't think mutant, who asked that question, (and any other person for that matter), would be interested in your additional reasons for suspecting him? Why is it fine for you to answer with one word but everyone else has to explain their votes/reads and justify them? That's a rhetorical question. Everyone should elaborate. The hypocrisy comes from you recognizing the importance of elaboration but not elaborating yourself.
well, he didn't ask me for my reasons, so I believe my answer satisfied him. :giggle:
if you think that I should be producing more content, with my 5 posts per page raito, then I disagree.
if you think that everybody should be spewing everything they think of then you are wrong.
this is totally unnecessary tbh
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Post Post #247 (isolation #47) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:18 pm

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@WHS could you fix that quote from above for me? thank you.


jelly is food? don't mind me, silly shitposting
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Post Post #267 (isolation #48) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:40 pm

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I still can't get over your scumread on me
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Post Post #269 (isolation #49) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:44 pm

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The confidence which you are misreading me with keeps me somewhere between amused and confused
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Post Post #271 (isolation #50) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:48 pm

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Last time you were so confident on your read on me you were scum
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Post Post #273 (isolation #51) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:55 pm

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I mean you kicked the door open and slapped a vote on me. That's reads as confident to me, assuming you do care about correctly reading me.

I don't think your tone is particularly confident not like Math's.
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Post Post #275 (isolation #52) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:05 pm

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Whatever you need to justify that read
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Post Post #277 (isolation #53) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:10 pm

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That you're getting scum points but I'm not really worried about you
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Post Post #279 (isolation #54) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:13 pm

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Enough competent people around that won't let you coast through the game
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Post Post #285 (isolation #55) » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:58 am

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I'm afraid Math doesn't know how to read me.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #56) » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:40 pm

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Wingedcatgirl do you have any thoughts about players? Any reads?
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Post Post #302 (isolation #57) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:49 am

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welcome
have fun, use your pt, raise hell
thanks
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Post Post #303 (isolation #58) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:49 am

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oh wait you are in pt with me
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Post Post #325 (isolation #59) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:50 am

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In post 322, Myloninja13 wrote:One of my neighbours was replaced :(
lmao Stefan lied to me, apparently :giggle:
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Post Post #329 (isolation #60) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:52 am

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oh, alright
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Post Post #333 (isolation #61) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:56 am

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since you are actually here Mylon

have any thoughts to share?
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Post Post #335 (isolation #62) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:59 am

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it's been 14 pages :(

you had to think something when you were reading the posts
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Post Post #349 (isolation #63) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:11 am

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In post 337, northsidegal wrote:hey scioness

can you give me a conclusion that you've come to
not sure what you are asking about? what i think of your slot?
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Post Post #358 (isolation #64) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:24 am

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start with metadiving me please
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Post Post #362 (isolation #65) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:29 am

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don't joke about me with some machines i thought you were being serious :(

(no clue, don't particularly care but it's still fun)
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Post Post #386 (isolation #66) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:17 am

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In post 381, BuJaber wrote:
In post 325, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 322, Myloninja13 wrote:One of my neighbours was replaced :(
lmao Stefan lied to me, apparently :giggle:
Did you ask him or did he volunteer the information?
He did mention it on his own
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Post Post #388 (isolation #67) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:45 am

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you lol

why are we doing it
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Post Post #396 (isolation #68) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:33 am

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to summarize:

i asked him about Sea's opening post, he said he doesn't like wave waggoners but he hopes BuJaber is town. the mention about you being his other neighbor was in brackets. that was his last message to me, posted around the time of his last message in the thread.

he only has 4 posts in the pt. all other things he has mentioned in the pt he also later talked about itt.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #69) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:38 am

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i guess it's becuase he didn't get any info on me?

timestamps:
pt post - 8:30pm my time
last thread post - 8:31pm

btw his last post itt mentions the things we talked about earlier in the hood.
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Post Post #402 (isolation #70) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:45 am

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the timing makes it impossible to judge really.

all of it happened on the first day and so Stefan flaked after the first day.

(if you wanna lynch my neighbors, go with wave. he doesn't really talk there :giggle: )
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Post Post #406 (isolation #71) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:53 am

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oh looks like i stopped playing the game. i prefer Angel over the duck.

VOTE: aa9
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Post Post #407 (isolation #72) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:02 am

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In post 401, wavemode wrote:can people who are not willing to lynch uglyduck today explain why in detail
gut? he seems nowhere as tunnel-y as he was in the game we played together. he looks like he is sorting.
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Post Post #408 (isolation #73) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:03 am

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what are you people even scum reading him for?
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Post Post #410 (isolation #74) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:37 am

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I don't really see things that wave is pushing UD for.
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Post Post #413 (isolation #75) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:58 am

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Wave, more reasons on UD beside he has too many tonwreads?
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Post Post #415 (isolation #76) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:14 am

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Well

Since you don't really want to lynch him
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Post Post #426 (isolation #77) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:04 am

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me, bujabber and aa9 are your picks for scumteam?
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Post Post #428 (isolation #78) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:45 am

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it doesn't really. couldn't tell if it's your pool or you are just unaware.

it's 11:2, not 10:3.
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Post Post #443 (isolation #79) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:50 pm

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let's put her to l-1 then
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Post Post #465 (isolation #80) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:45 pm

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Sell us scum instead?
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Post Post #495 (isolation #81) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:32 am

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Mathdino has shared his neighbors.
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Post Post #497 (isolation #82) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:41 am

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you sure do pay attention. the part from you to nsg is clear for me.

wy are hoods so important to you?
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Post Post #500 (isolation #83) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:01 am

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Math why are you voting, when NSG isn't even voting me?
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Post Post #503 (isolation #84) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:09 am

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In post 490, northsidegal wrote:In post 293, Scioness Sajj wrote:
Wingedcatgirl do you have any thoughts about players? Any reads?

In post 333, Scioness Sajj wrote:
since you are actually here Mylon

have any thoughts to share?


these are the kind of questions that are really easy to ask as scum, make it look like you're actually playing the game and don't actually require any follow-up (which scioness didn't give). scioness hasn't mentioned wingedcatgirl or mylo since she asked them this question, so i can only assume that she didn't actually take anything that they said into account.
i was on v/la friday-sunday.
both of those slots failed to provide any content before, if you think I need to have an agenda to poke people then yeas sure looks like I'm scum.
In post 490, northsidegal wrote:this is what i was trying to evoke with this question, to see if scioness actually was doing something with those questions but just wasn't posting it in the thread:
In post 337, northsidegal wrote:
hey scioness

can you give me a conclusion that you've come to


but as far as i can tell from what she's posted so far there's nothing.
you have taken this question back as soon as I asked about it.
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Post Post #506 (isolation #85) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:08 am

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In post 504, Mathdino wrote:I'm not gonna vote no one here

And goddamn is aa9 checked completely out of the game
So you have nothing but a pl on aa9?
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Post Post #523 (isolation #86) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:10 am

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i was going to write something but i really don't care today
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Post Post #524 (isolation #87) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:13 am

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In post 508, Mathdino wrote:
In post 506, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 504, Mathdino wrote:I'm not gonna vote no one here

And goddamn is aa9 checked completely out of the game
So you have nothing but a pl on aa9?
i posted a reads list like last page, go look at it if you want to know what options i have
my point was that

you have two other scumreads but you vote me even though you don't trust nsg on that read.
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Post Post #526 (isolation #88) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:19 am

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In post 501, ArcAngel9 wrote:I am really missing the real case on me. If the town is so lame to get sold by the scum push. Have it in your way. I don't want to empathize with this town either.
who do you think is the scum pushing on you?
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Post Post #528 (isolation #89) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:07 am

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Is it
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Post Post #531 (isolation #90) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:57 am

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yeah aa9 has no clue what's happening around her

seconding Math.
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Post Post #538 (isolation #91) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:32 am

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Everything? Like this is complicated.
I don't really understand why she is wrong. It's either she never actually knew how to read me or she's scum.

I started with an assumption that she was wrong because she wanted to be (i.e. scum or gambiting something for some reason). Like the way she goes about it looks to me more like when she was scum in Newbie 1867 than when she was scumreading me in PYP. But she is still doing more than her usual scum self I think, though certainly not as much as town nsg.
She asked me why I changed my vote from RVS to you - no clue what she had in mind but apparently it didn't work out because she never brought it up again.
ellitell - ?????????
Inactivity mention - i have been more or less biweekly vla on weekends. Across all my games.
i'm not mislycnhable - i don't know why she thinks i am not because even i don't know that. i have never ever obvtowned in those two games i was town so.
I have no clue why would she brought in the way she did because she withdrew the question before I answered.
the questions stuff - yeah it looks legit, this kind of wiki scumtell but eh. I don't have a vanilla d1 game completed to selfmeta so all I can say it's it's not all i have done.

I'd imagine she would actually talk to me first if she wasn't sure about her read on me.
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Post Post #545 (isolation #92) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:50 am

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In post 533, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 531, Scioness Sajj wrote:yeah aa9 has no clue what's happening around her

seconding Math.

I am frustrated with this town. thats what happening.
it's been 9 days. you weren't here, we couldn't get a good read on your slot what you provided wasn't really good.
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Post Post #548 (isolation #93) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:51 am

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AA9 - 538 wasn't about you, it was about nsg.

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if you guys wanna lynch me today let me know in advance.

p.edit - nvm
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Post Post #551 (isolation #94) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:34 am

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In post 542, ArcAngel9 wrote:I scum read anyone who scum read. Because I believe that scum find lurkers as easy targets and I have been soft target by scum for a very long time. And where did and when did i say that you're mislynchable? Why are you referring my play to other games, Which games you're referring to? I need you to be clear especially when you accusing me over thing.s
i don't really understand why you could read that this post was about you and not vote me or do anything about it?
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Post Post #560 (isolation #95) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:32 pm

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Hmm I don't really buy the bad reading comparison, I think aa9 is more aware than that.

How about this
VOTE: unrealseal
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Post Post #562 (isolation #96) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:37 pm

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Btw I have talked about my read with Awoo last Friday.

Semmes somewhat relevant right now I guess
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Post Post #609 (isolation #97) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:04 am

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In post 4, HeWhoSwims wrote:We have reached 12 confirmations!

We start now... Good luck!

Deadline in (expired on 2018-06-24 03:26:19)
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Post Post #610 (isolation #98) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:20 am

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I don't think not lynching is a good idea.

i felt a little better about Mutant after some of his new posts but i would vote him still. i think i'd vote anybody but math and bujaber.

aa9 over UD. wingedcatgirl over mylon. don't understand people townreading seal. would also consider nsg but here's probably no support for this.
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Post Post #615 (isolation #99) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:37 am

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the more i think about nsg the more i think she didn't actually do anything gamesolving this game.

eh, Invis is on v/la and I don't think he is scum, just based on his contribution.
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Post Post #616 (isolation #100) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:39 am

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imo, comapred to Seal Invis looks batter. Seal has been only popping in to comment on hot topics. Invis at least keep us updated with his reads.
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Post Post #619 (isolation #101) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:42 am

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I don't think that nsg's read on my slot should be treated as AI, though.

p.edit - eh, okay I can see that but he really didn't do anything besides that?
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Post Post #622 (isolation #102) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:47 am

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I have three reasons not to want to vote UD

1. He is playing.
2. His approach seems different then in that game we played together.
3. He doesn't want to vote me even though he could.
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Post Post #624 (isolation #103) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:57 am

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If you really think she can be bop on my slot then we should flip me.
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Post Post #627 (isolation #104) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:33 am

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meh, it's true that it doesn't make much sense for scum nsg to try to mislynch me d1 when you are around.

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Post Post #635 (isolation #105) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:17 am

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meh it's a good thing

you won't claim you can read me anymore
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Post Post #636 (isolation #106) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:19 am

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still don't feel good about nsg town though.
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Post Post #640 (isolation #107) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:33 am

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are you pushing for my lynch or apologizing about mislynching me?

i mean you have been loud about wanting to read me well, i guess you just got lucky :giggle:
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Post Post #642 (isolation #108) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:41 am

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why so?

i assume that your ability to read me should get progressively better, not worse. if you are reading me here for the same things you were reading me in PYP then yeah i think that was actually luck.
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Post Post #643 (isolation #109) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:44 am

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In post 637, northsidegal wrote:In post 624, Scioness Sajj wrote:
If you really think she can be bop on my slot then we should flip me.

i also get the feeling that this is a gambit. obviously my pre-existing view had you as scum and as such coming from that mindset this would have to be a gambit, but even evaluated on its own i think this should be seen as a gambit.
gambit based on lynching me d1?
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Post Post #645 (isolation #110) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:50 am

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In post 637, northsidegal wrote:as far as i can remember this game and from what i've checked so far you've never on your own asked me what the reasons i've been scumreading you for are. the absence of that seems strange to me for someone who not only believes that i can read them, but believed that i entered the game "confidently scumreading" them (from post 273)
why would I ask for your reasons? i believe you can read me, i never knew how you could do that. besides that, you have pretty early explained those reasons to math so.
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Post Post #648 (isolation #111) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:00 am

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i really don't feel like discussing any of this, it's not like i'm going to out argument you

i will write down some sort of readlist tomorrow and we can lynch me.
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Post Post #652 (isolation #112) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:13 am

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meh. a lot of what you are posting is what you expect me to do/say/think wrt your slot and besides saying that i just didn't think of it like that there is much to say. i don't really think it's worth the effort.

(if you were townreading me in 721 then you have no reacord on reading me).
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Post Post #654 (isolation #113) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:17 am

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ah my bad
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Post Post #656 (isolation #114) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:28 am

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no
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Post Post #658 (isolation #115) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:47 am

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650 is super upsetting but i can't tell if you are misrepping or you actually think that's what happened.

will post read list in a second.
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Post Post #660 (isolation #116) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:10 pm

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mathdino is town - mostly based on how he backed off of his 1v1 with wave, he is most likely to die tonight so would be great to get some directions from him before eod.
wave - i sort of townread this slot but i'd stay cautious.
invis - recently commented on this slot
ud - same as above
unrealseal - same. i guess i could be reading him of the playstyle, but even though he could actually get curious about something and ask some question if he was actually looking for anything.
bujaber - pretty confident he is town
aa9 - wish i knew what to do with her

rest of slots later.
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Post Post #663 (isolation #117) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:17 pm

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give me time to at least write things down? i have to ask hws something.

unless you think those are irrelevant.
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Post Post #666 (isolation #118) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:18 pm

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if i can copy/quote my own posts from hood
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Post Post #668 (isolation #119) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:22 pm

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btw - Math tell me what you would do d2 assuming you are alive and I have flipped town.
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Post Post #672 (isolation #120) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:53 pm

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to paraphrase my hood with Stefan/Awoo (nothing game related happened in the other one).
Spoiler:
1. Stefan asked if anything about Math or Mutant pinged me.
2. I answered that it was rvs and that 41 pinged me (Dino's post irrc) but it was because of how he used 'on the other hand' so most likely irrelevant.
3. Stefan gives and example why PTs are useful and said he doesn't want to defend Math in the thread.
4. I agree. Later ask him about Seal's opening.
5. Stefan said he understands why I didn't like it. He doesn't like wagon on wave even though he hopes that Bu is town. <- there was the neighbor mention.
6. I corrected that it wasn't as much of a wagon as it was seal's focus on wave v dino. and that i didn't get a bad feeling from BuJaber's vote.
Awoo replaces in:
1. Awoo tells me that i'm his top townread.
2. I expressed disbelief that he would twonread me like that.
3. He asked me if I have any reads.
4. I have told him my updated reads:
nsg will obvtown soon enough untill that she is scum
math - that think with wave and i'd worry if he doesn't die
mylo or winged - was not interested n lynching them
mutant - i felt better about him and it was also mentioned.
seal - read didn't change
5. Awoo agreed on nsg. also agreeded on mylo and winged since there were people he wanted to lynch more. he said he doesn't know how to read mylo and that math said mylo is lynchbaity.
6. I explained mylon and mutant but too lazy to paraphrase, will probably do anyway if i can't copy that.
7. I asked about Bujaber after the hood thing.
8. Awoo said it was weird and that he still doesn't know how to read Bu's alignment.


this is here mostly here because Awoo has ignored Mathdino asking if i have shared anything after engaging mylo/winged (and all my talk with Awoo happened when I was vla). I'm not sure if this is something he should be scumread for but perhaps good enough to talk about d2.
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Post Post #679 (isolation #121) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:19 pm

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NSG thing:
i'm really not sure what to think of her. the way she went about scumreading me is not what i'd expect (i did only play newbie games with her so \maybe\ that's the case). she either is super overconfident in her read on me here or scum - don't think she would threat my slot like that if it was any other case.
is awful. i can't tell if it's a misrep on purpose or not but
do not sheep nsg
in this game after i flip green.

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sorry I sorta give up. most of my defense would be making excuses for myself that I wasn't as engaged here as I was in a game where I repped in d2 that already had more content in 12 pages then we have here in 27 and nobody was shutting me down as people have here (i'm not blaming anybody i just don't how to reengage/engage better). that's basically my word against her and i don't think i can do much about it when math is townreading her already.
hopefully, all of this will be of some use.
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Post Post #680 (isolation #122) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:20 pm

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In post 678, northsidegal wrote:Posting from phone so it's hard to be as in-depth as I'd like. I find the context slightly hard to follow but I don't particularly think it's relevant. I don't think scioness as scum would try to take easy mislynches, although this is mostly conjecture. You can read for yourself a 36 page scum PT she was in to decide for yourself.
jesus christ stop this
what the hell makes you think i wouldn't take an easy mislynch? from which of my scumgames did you get that idea?
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Post Post #681 (isolation #123) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:22 pm

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In post 18, Scioness Sajj wrote:mylo seems extremely genuine.i believe he was just happy when Math said nsg is town and he could sheep him, I think if he is scum he will slip under pressure. will probably look into his games later. he sure looks lynchbaity, i never played with him before but it's not hard to push somebody for being scum when they don't know what and how to contribute.

if you mean 289 then idk I didn't read much into it, trying to ignore self meta, if you mean 143 i didn't really like it either.
i did like 290 - he denied nsg's towntell just by interpreting what she has written in the thread. i feel like he would have done a lot more with that if he wanted the attention off himself or had any ulterior motives.
that's the post.
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Post Post #683 (isolation #124) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:28 pm

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i really don't want to talk with you.
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Post Post #685 (isolation #125) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:31 pm

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if you are town do me a favor and stop spitting out 'ideas' just to get your lynch
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Post Post #689 (isolation #126) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:33 pm

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In post 684, northsidegal wrote:
In post 680, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 678, northsidegal wrote:Posting from phone so it's hard to be as in-depth as I'd like. I find the context slightly hard to follow but I don't particularly think it's relevant. I don't think scioness as scum would try to take easy mislynches, although this is mostly conjecture. You can read for yourself a 36 page scum PT she was in to decide for yourself.
jesus christ stop this
what the hell makes you think i wouldn't take an easy mislynch? from which of my scumgames did you get that idea?
it's just my feeling of you. like i said, mostly conjecture. i guess it's from 1851 and how towny everyone thought you were there.
from that game where i didn't push every single person before i had to and then i pushed the easiest person?

why are you scumclaming just now.
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Post Post #690 (isolation #127) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:33 pm

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VOTE: nsg
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Post Post #691 (isolation #128) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:34 pm

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lynch this tomorrow please and thank you
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Post Post #694 (isolation #129) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:39 pm

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In post 97, Scioness Sajj wrote:hi Math, game solved?


i dont think people are wking you really.
In post 159, Scioness Sajj wrote:mutant, what're your other reads?
In post 162, Scioness Sajj wrote:what do you exactly like about myloninja and seal?
In post 219, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 212, Mathdino wrote:my PTs are also quiet, i was hoping you guys would have more stuff to share

i still intend to wagon mutant so
everything i've talked about with stefan has been already talked about in here

why not wagon nsg?
In post 220, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 213, BuJaber wrote:Point I'm trying to make is that this low activity is making uglyduck and Sajj find things that IMO are just not there.
what have i said that you felt you need to dismiss it?
In post 240, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 236, BuJaber wrote:Oh sorry D) NSG insists she puts a lot more effort into the game as town than she does as scum and there are past games that support this claim. I have experienced some games of both alignment. Although I admit our last game together her boost in motivation came a little too late. I don't want to speak about that horrid game though point is regardless of what alignment she is and whether or not we lynch her it's best to wait and see if she exposes her alignment through her posting. Inactivity can be a scumtell for her but inactivity is also difficult to read for any player so it's best to wait until we have some posts of hers to analyze.


Pedit - yes this post and my previous posts are directed at Sajj but you are encouraged to read and comment on them
inactivity doesn't really work for NSG ime, yeah.
how long would you give her to display her alignment?
oh now we are tvt?
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Post Post #695 (isolation #130) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:40 pm

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i went to make coffee and this happens :(

disregard.
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Post Post #700 (isolation #131) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:51 pm

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In post 693, Mathdino wrote:Sci suppose you and NSG are tvt tearing each other apart

Then what
i don't think town nsg ever does things like she did here (and if she does then i will totally blame her if we lose). there is no reason for town her to make up things that she did and if she is so confident in my scumflip that she doesn't need to interact with me (not to mention that i'm awful with interacting with my scummates so asking me about my reads and other stuff would potential give good direction - 4 people here should be able to confirm that), ignores most of the things i have posted but if she is actually town then she should be blamed.
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Post Post #703 (isolation #132) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:02 pm

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which things aren't true?
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Post Post #705 (isolation #133) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:06 pm

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fuck you
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Post Post #706 (isolation #134) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:07 pm

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this is not town nsg, nope
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Post Post #707 (isolation #135) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:09 pm

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In post 704, northsidegal wrote:my making things up
do you actually think that profii and ofrhz weren't easiest lycnhes?
your view of my confidence
you have walked in with a scumread and you never expressed any doubts. that's pretty confident to me.
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Post Post #709 (isolation #136) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:19 pm

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In post 708, northsidegal wrote:
In post 707, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 704, northsidegal wrote:my making things up
do you actually think that profii and ofrhz weren't easiest lycnhes?
i was speaking mostly from memory. i made the fact that it was just a gut feeling clear.
okay, first one debunked.
your view of my confidence
you have walked in with a scumread and you never expressed any doubts. that's pretty confident to me.
i believe i have expressed doubts.[/quote]
if you are referring to 'ooops -shrug- sorry but you are my strongest scumread' then those aren't doubts. you didn't actually have any doubts because you don't have any progression on my slot this game.
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Post Post #714 (isolation #137) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:52 pm

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In post 650, northsidegal wrote:now, lack of confidence / conviction on its own (and ignoring meta) isn't necessarily scum indicative and can vary from game to game, but i just don't see behavior that i expect from town scioness.
always thought it was pretty clear that i push my scumreads as scum a lot harder then i push as town becuase i simply don't consider others opinions when i'm sure i'm wrong (this can be confirmed by UglyDuck and wave on my push on ofrhz and some on my townreads). anyways:
do you have in mind 1859 and how much confidence I had when pushing oxy that I have backed off of my read at least once on both days? or that time when i was so convinced about scumreading ruru that i have almost dropped that read when writing the case on her?
or 1867 where i was fencing on you whole day 3, even though you were extremely close to being confirmed scum and earlier in the game i have mentioned previous days that if you don't town it up enough you should be lycnhed?

maybe this game i'm not pushing as hard as in other game becuase:
1. game is dead, not enough content to get stuff from
2. nobody has been engaging me aggressively so i didn't produce the content myself

but why would you bother to consider the gamestate right

like suggesting that an inexperienced townie should be confident in their reads, considering the game state, is ridiculous. sure you can push it as a wiki scumtell but it has nothing to do with how i have been playing my town games.
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Post Post #716 (isolation #138) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:54 pm

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if you actually think i should deathtunnel seal just becuase i scumread him of those few posts he has made but most of the people are either townreading him or just shrugging me off when i ask about that read then idk who do you think i am.
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Post Post #718 (isolation #139) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:58 pm

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when im done casing nsg

but i have to start first
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Post Post #719 (isolation #140) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:59 pm

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also low key fuck you math.

i have been open about my read on seal. i have engaged you today about it and you have shrugged it off
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Post Post #720 (isolation #141) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:05 pm

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In post 711, northsidegal wrote:In post 709, Scioness Sajj wrote:
if you are referring to 'ooops -shrug- sorry but you are my strongest scumread' then those aren't doubts. you didn't actually have any doubts because you don't have any progression on my slot this game.

my lazy vote on you and subsequent voting / focusing elsewhere were my doubts manifesting. i talked about this here:
if talking about some irrelevant stuff about mutant and voting aa9 you consider switch focus that's barely a switch. also switching focus doesn't mean there were any doubts. you have actually mentioned you had doubts on my slot once but in the same post you decided it was irrelevant because what i did can be easily done by scum.

the second part of this post agrees with my point that you have walked in with a scumread on me, so you are extremely overconfident on a wrong read on a slot that in theory you should be able to read better than others, so your readers shouldn't be trusted because you are not actually reevaluating/adjusting them. or just scum.
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Post Post #722 (isolation #142) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:11 pm

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i have just ctrl f me iso, it found seal mentioned 18 times
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Post Post #723 (isolation #143) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:14 pm

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In post 650, northsidegal wrote:for example, let's look at the line "don't understand people townreading seal". luckily, a similar situation happened in Newbie 1867 where scioness was scumreading a person that someone else was townreading. in that game, Ircher had Harambey as town along with a list of posts that he felt were towny or scummy, but without reasoning. people asked him to provide reasoning in general, but he refused and wanted people to ask him to provide reasoning on specific posts. (if you'd like to read the full context for yourself i recommend starting here
first how many times i have engaged people here to talk about seal:
In post 162, Scioness Sajj wrote:what do you exactly like about myloninja and seal?
In post 192, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 79, UnrealSeal wrote:I don't exactly like Mathdino running around shouting "WOE IS TOWN, WE ARE ALL DOOMED, 2;11 WILL CLAIM OUR SOULS" but his concerns seem to be coming from a town point of view.

VOTE: wavemode gives me bad vibes so I'll just park this here
The opening post was pretty bad, isn't any better. From 'solving' 1v1 straight to sheeping Math, feels like lazy scum.
In post 230, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 226, BuJaber wrote:
In post 220, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 213, BuJaber wrote:Point I'm trying to make is that this low activity is making uglyduck and Sajj find things that IMO are just not there.
what have i said that you felt you need to dismiss it?
You've touched on this with mutant and it might be a perspective thing. But basically I think Seal's RVS posts that you talk about are neutral and quite normal for RVS. In your opinion you might be seeing something scummy like you told mutant but I don't and it felt to me that the quietness in thread is motivating you and others to look for things for the sake of looking.
I don't think Seal participated in RVS. It was not random at all.
First 24 hours after the game started the thread was pretty active and that's also the time when Seal posted for the first time.
Now if I didn't have a townread on you I'd be interpretting this differently but as you can see I'm quite open to the possibility that you did in fact find it scummy and have good reason to. So 3 options:
Where's that townread coming from even? What makes it so strong that you didn't reconsider it but you did with UglyDuck?
You are open to the possibility that what I find scummy is a product of boredom.
I thought it was 3 hence the comment. By the way is incredibly hypocritical coming from you. Guess it's a good thing hypocrisy tends to be a towntell, unlike inconsistency which tends to be scummy.
He asked a question and I have answered the question exactly how it was asked, what's hypocritical about it? If you have in mind then idk. I never complained about the game state.
For the record I think nsg has one of those metas where it's almost always better to not lynch them early.
What about NSG meta makes her always better to lynch her later instead of earlier?
In post 610, Scioness Sajj wrote:I don't think not lynching is a good idea.

i felt a little better about Mutant after some of his new posts but i would vote him still. i think i'd vote anybody but math and bujaber.

aa9 over UD. wingedcatgirl over mylon. don't understand people townreading seal. would also consider nsg but here's probably no support for this.
In post 616, Scioness Sajj wrote:imo, comapred to Seal Invis looks batter. Seal has been only popping in to comment on hot topics. Invis at least keep us updated with his reads.
+ hood one becuase why not
In post 7, Scioness Sajj wrote:oh, I don't like Seal's opening but idk if I want to act on it just yet.

what do you think?

I have even engaged seal himself:
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In post 107, UnrealSeal wrote:hard to read currently, most peoples post currently is RVS silliness and i'm bad at reading in general. call me again when I can deathtunnel someone

I like StefanB's posting though, I think he's town.
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Post Post #724 (isolation #144) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:21 pm

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In post 619, Scioness Sajj wrote:I don't think that nsg's read on my slot should be treated as AI, though.

p.edit - eh, okay I can see that but he really didn't do anything besides that?
forgot this one, to Math about Seal.
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Post Post #727 (isolation #145) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:43 pm

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In post 650, northsidegal wrote:to continue my "reasons where i'm coming from in scioness being scum", it doesn't seem to me that she has any genuine convictions in scumreads. there's people she "would vote", but nobody that it seems like she really thinks is a great vote and wants to convince other people on.
sorry i don't walk into the games with designed lynches unless i rep in. although i sure have some people this game that I don't want to lynch but it apparently doesn't matter.
for example, let's look at the line "don't understand people townreading seal". luckily, a similar situation happened in Newbie 1867 where scioness was scumreading a person that someone else was townreading. in that game, Ircher had Harambey as town along with a list of posts that he felt were towny or scummy, but without reasoning. people asked him to provide reasoning in general, but he refused and wanted people to ask him to provide reasoning on specific posts. (if you'd like to read the full context for yourself i recommend starting here

now, instead of asking ircher for reasoning on specific posts, scioness took the initiative and just started talking about the posts that he noted, giving
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take on them:
Spoiler: apparently i can't spoiler spoilers quotes inside are a mess
In post 473, Scioness Sajj wrote:Ircher, I'm here! Alright, so I have decided to give me thoughts about the posts that stood up to both of us and you can agree/disagree give your own? I guess that's the best approach to this.

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Spoiler: post 35, Harambey180
In post 35, Harambey180 wrote:
In post 34, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Vote: Harambey180


I think the fact that he hasn't posted yet is strange. He's been active onsite for a while after the L-1 wagon formed, and I think that it's likelier that he is scum who is avoiding posting for a little while in the hopes that what's mostly just a baseless wagon will die out than town who saw the wagon form and had nothing to say/could find nothing to address.

Other fairly equivalent votes I could see myself making are Alciel and creppy. I don't believe that either have them have done more than the bare minimum to play the game, which is sometimes a sign of scum who is uncomfortable.
The wagon was mostly formed thanks to RVS so I didn't have much to defend against.
Besides, wagons this early on hardly ever get said person lynched.

Why would I try to 'defend' myself against a wagon this early on? By staying silent I also won't give scum more information / opportunities to throw more shade in me. And the more I talk, the more I'm putting myself in a losing position based on the past. Because of how I verbalize things, I guess.
What bothers me about this posts is the use of 'defend' and how much Harambey shrug his lack of response off with pro-town motivation.
Nachomamma's post resolves around lack of reaction but Harambey answer is about defending himself. I understand '
The wagon was mostly formed thanks to RVS so I didn't have much to defend against. Besides, wagons this early on hardly ever get said person lynched.
' as him saying that he couldn't defend himself because there weren't any arguments against him and the wagon wasn't serious anyway. My conclusion is that he was concerned with overreacting and being lynched because of that and he sort of admits to it with the past experience part. That's okay, it's a reaction based on his experience.
But he put an emphasis on the thing being just an RVS wagon, which pings me because i believe it comes from his need to actually defend himself. Defense by trying to appear that he doesn't care.
The argument about staying silent so he won't give scum more info is pretty bad. Town needs to talk to get anything done and experience scum will always find something they can exploit. You can avoid this, scum will find a way to push if they want. I don't really understand why he had those thoughts when he is also trying to shrug the rvs as not important?

Plus, I agree that ofrhz jumped the gun here and should have waited longer to see how/if Harambey actually reacts to naked L-1. We don't know if Harambey saw the l-1 vote when it was posted or just got to the thread after he was at l-2. Still, I think it warranted a reaction as either alignment and was an opportunity to start a discussion.

Spoiler: post 45, Harambey180
In post 45, Harambey180 wrote:
In post 44, Alciel wrote:
In post 39, Nachomamma8 wrote:"He didn't state a reason, so I voted for him" - why do you have a policy of voting people who don't state reasons?
"Didn't state mine since no one really asked him why for his vote" - I don't understand what other people's reactions to him has to do with how you approach him here; it seems a bit backwards to me. Like, I could see if you were voting for someone and didn't feel like stating reasons because they've already been said but I don't understanding voting someone and NOT giving reasons because no one else seemed to see or care about the same thing you did. Help me out?
His vote didn't have a reason compared to others that at least posted something though nothing concrete, it's my first game and I'm still testing the waters, I'm also waiting if someone would question my lack of reasoning since I don't know if not giving reasoning is that common or not.
Giving (good) reasoning will often make others trust you more than when you don't give any reasoning at all.
My vote was a random vote as we were in RVS, which stands for Random Voting Stage. In my opinion, random votes don't necessarily need reasoning. I mean, it's random, what would a reasoning be for a random vote?
Most people say something else like 'Hello everyone!' or a 'joke reasoning' as to why their random voted player should get more votes. Eventually there will be one player that has the most votes at some point. That person will then usually speak up so that the players have something to discuss about and over time, people will form reads. Then players will argue about each others' reads and posts and get someone lynched. This all started with the random voting stage.
I was that 'player' this time that got the most votes. So I had to speak to persuade people I'm a Townie (which, in fact, I am) and vote elsewhere.
At this point, most players will start to discuss my recent posts, and probably the ones of Nachomamma and I guess yours too.

I don't know how familiar you are with mafia games so I approached you here as if you're pretty new to the game. I hope this is okay as how it is. :wink:
I don't understand why you have got town vibes from this post. It's mostly game mechanics explaining post so that's nai to me. The only thing that stands out to me is the bolded part and I'm particularly fond of, the part in brackets, but not really scum read on its own.

Spoiler: post 210, Harambey180
In post 210, Harambey180 wrote:Ircher's post 202 is pretty much a compilation of '28 things that you guys could have done better'. I like the effort you put into making such a long post consisting of 28 things you think about, but it's not quite my style.

Also, because it's a long post, it is probably a good idea to bold some parts like questions. I read about half of it because I don't want to spend too much time on this game and I have other things to do as well. If you asked me questions, then I missed them and please repeat them for me.

Your readslist is still pretty good though. It's not the type of readslist that I'm used to see but I can see you really thought well about your reads. I'm still not really fond about, how to say this, what you want with your posts. I can't really think of a way to say this that you will understand what I'm trying to say, but whatever.

Finally, when I saw that 'town leader' thing you said about me in your read on me, I remembered an idea I had earlier. I thought it would be a good idea if we had someone as a 'team leader' that coordinates everything that happens. Probably two people, because there's a chance that if we assigned this 'task' to one person, that person could be scum. If you picked two people that seem to absolutely disagree with eachother then the odds of both being scum is about 0 percent, so then you'd have at least one Townie in the team leader group. I don't know what you guys think...??
Should we need one or two people as team leader(s) to coordinate everything that happens in this game?
Things like: making sure that one discussion doesn't go out of hand, let people take turns, make sure that two topics aren't discussed at the same time (because that's less efficient imo). That's what I'm thinking of rn.
As we both were getting scum vibes from this post and I'm tired tell me first for what you are scumreading this one and I will elaborate tomorrow.
basic differences between situation mentioned above and this game:
a). i repped in and there was already content
b). i was townreading Ircher of the ate (he was unwilling to elaborate) and he was willing to talk to me also provided things to talk about.
+ i have promissed myself that I would talk to him but it took me about two days or so when i was posted other content becuase i'm lazy like that.

Spoiler: me asking ircher if he will talk
In post 403, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 382, Ircher wrote:By the way, I have some statisticcs on my wiki page.... You should go look at them.
winning and losing aside - i believe you are aware that showing people what makes you have the read you do doesn't work as well as telling people why.

if i ask about specific posts from will you elaborate or just shrug me off?
In post 412, Ircher wrote:
In post 403, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 382, Ircher wrote:By the way, I have some statisticcs on my wiki page.... You should go look at them.
winning and losing aside - i believe you are aware that showing people what makes you have the read you do doesn't work as well as telling people why.

if i ask about specific posts from will you elaborate or just shrug me off?
I might elaborate; however, I am
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not explaining every single one of them. Also, I don't have all my explanations ready (because I never wrote them...) so yeah..... I had a reason fyi; I just never wrote it down anywhere for the sake of efficiency and the fact that said elaborations rarely have been seen as useful in my experience.


Spoiler: post tht already in itself has some information
In post 339, Ircher wrote:Town Vibe:
Alciel/North --> 109
Draynth --> 175, 187, 256
Etromin --> 33, 70
Harambey/Nancy --> 35, 45, 152, 156, 313
Nacho --> 164, 165
Ventriloquist
Rampage --> 270
Vulcan --> 14, 48, 105, 107, 118, 226, 234, 324

Scum Vibe:
Alciel/North --> 112
Draynth --> 51, 61
Etromin/Scion --> 13, 115, 247, 287, 292, 305
Harambey/Nancy --> 54, 131, 183, 192, 210, 236, 298
Ofrhz/Teacher --> 150, 215, 235, 263, 319
Ventriloquist/Rampage --> 126, 142, 193, 301
Vulcan --> 53, 60

VOTE: Teacher
Yes, I know I'm already voting. This time for realsies.

i find it hard to believe that the same person who went through all this trouble and just got all of her thoughts out there to talk to someone about a read they disagreed on would just leave things at "i don't understand why people are townreading this person". and it's not just that one post that i quoted at the top from this game that i feel shows the difference - i just don't many posts at all that resemble the one right above.

i'll be upfront in that it's not as if
no
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okay now the misreps or just things that didn't suit nsg's narrative:
a). I didn't talk about Harambey only, I have talked about all posts we had in common
b). in theory, nsg can't know for /sure/ but that game i have made notes when i was catching up and I mentioned having them and based my interactions on them
c). the game was slow but again had a content from previous day, before i repped in
d). Ircher was generally producing walls and was willing to talk to me
additional: in my first game here, as scum i was so bored on waiting for people to post i have iso'ed in detail three players in a 50 pages game. nsg was in that game, she should know that my activity is nai. i can produce content as both alignments.


okay so to sum it up - NSG here pushes actually pretty surface level read that looks super busy but I don't believe is comparable. here she pushes things like my activity or lack of engagement but she doesn't compare them to how much content is in this game or how many people are actually willing to talk

Spoiler: all the times i was shut down or ignored in this game
In post 81, Scioness Sajj wrote:then what are you doing with your vote
In post 109, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 107, UnrealSeal wrote:hard to read currently, most peoples post currently is RVS silliness and i'm bad at reading in general. call me again when I can deathtunnel someone

I like StefanB's posting though, I think he's town.
i sring everything you post

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In post 162, Scioness Sajj wrote:what do you exactly like about myloninja and seal?
In post 349, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 337, northsidegal wrote:hey scioness

can you give me a conclusion that you've come to
not sure what you are asking about? what i think of your slot?
In post 413, Scioness Sajj wrote:Wave, more reasons on UD beside he has too many tonwreads?
In post 407, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 401, wavemode wrote:can people who are not willing to lynch uglyduck today explain why in detail
gut? he seems nowhere as tunnel-y as he was in the game we played together. he looks like he is sorting.
In post 619, Scioness Sajj wrote:I don't think that nsg's read on my slot should be treated as AI, though.

p.edit - eh, okay I can see that but he really didn't do anything besides that?

again, not blaming everybody but i believe anybody that was isoing me this game (or was just reading it) and had to compare it to my other game would realize that the dynamics and activity here is different.

note that NSG has been in all my first 4 games and have repeatedly claimed that she wants to develop a soul read on me. she even read scum pt from my first game that was over 30+ pages long and i was really open there about how i felt about the game. for some reason in this game she decided to read me based on some universal scumtells even though she had all my meta and should be aware that those things don't really apply (reason why she probably misread me terribly in my first game). That's why I have ask about it below:
In post 273, Scioness Sajj wrote:I mean you kicked the door open and slapped a vote on me. That's reads as confident to me,
assuming you do care about correctly reading me.

I don't think your tone is particularly confident not like Math's.
In post 274, northsidegal wrote:-shrug-

originally i was kind of coming around to townreading the "i'm surprised you're scumreading me" but then i realized that for this kind of situation where there's someone with a track record of reading someone else correctly there's really not many other ways to respond, and i've seen the exact same thing before from scum.


she ignored the part about correctly reading me and instead written down a progression that i don't actually believe happened. at first, i thought that she had a wrong impression and would reconsider but i never really happened.
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Post Post #729 (isolation #146) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:00 pm

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nsg claims that she has been correct about me before (which is true, 2 out of 3 games) reading me of how she thinks i approach the games (meta i guess) or tone. one time she has asked me about my thoughts she has took it back(?), she has also shifted focus (which may have nothing to do with how she reads me), her examples meta comparison from the other games are wrong (I believe I have proven that were either not correct or really shallow/misinterpreted) and they were pretty generic scumtells, i think they should be more personalized considering how much experience she has with me (all of it). she can keep saying that she did this or that to prove that she actually had some doubt on my slot this game but she never actually stated that - she did use to state her doubts about my slot if she had any.
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Post Post #730 (isolation #147) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:02 pm

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In post 728, Myloninja13 wrote:VOTE: scioness
you don't have anything to say considering how much has happened?
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Post Post #731 (isolation #148) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:06 pm

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last post i swear. we flip me today and I hope you will read 727 and this post overnight and decide tomorrow what to do.

Spoiler: how to read nsg post that someone made for me but i dont really know how to use
In post 1007, Nachomamma8 wrote:
NSG Meta Tell #1:


*Out of 36 completed town games, NSG has only been mislynched three times, which is an excellent record. I would argue that most people who are difficult to mislynch are the types of people who dig their heels in and fight hard when confronted with the possibility of their own lynch. NSG is most certainly one of those people, but she hasn't displayed that quality here.

For example, take Partition Mafia. NSG opened the game up with a ton of lurking, but, when it looked likelier and likelier that she would be lynched, stepped up her game in a huge way. She's clearly rattled when voted incorrectly in mafia games (which is a common trait), and that means that when she's voted in games as town it tends to increase her emotional investment in games, resulting in posts like these:
In post 2355, northsidegal wrote:
In post 2353, Kokichi Oma wrote:You're not unvoting group 3 after I said it was a scumclaim from my opinion, so why should I listen to yours?
YOU NEVER EXPLAINED WHY IT WAS A SCUMCLAIM.
In post 2356, northsidegal wrote:kokichi - i have been doing nohting but asking you to talk things over. if you are town, you are playing like utter trash making that vote right now.
Now, I know that it's not fair to expect her to get angry every time she's approaching a lynch, but a major problem I had with NSG's play before today is that she just felt listless the whole way through - now she's about to get lynched and be a major part of town losing the game, but there's no significant change in her play: she still feels flat, and she isn't focused on helping the town solve the game after her lynch (she'd argue that she's just waiting for me or waiting for someone else, but I find that bullshit - she has a full game to analyze and the best she can give for scumsuspects is her shallow scumread on Rampage and her nonread on me, don't think it's unreasonable to ask her to produce more than that).

The other thing that stands out to me is the fact that she continues gamesolving while she goes down the whole time, AND there are more depth to her reads. For example, take her read on Scioness here: it's "Scioness is town because of meta", and then no doubt, no paranoia, nothing. She has a similarly strong townread on Wisdom in Partition Mafia, but even then, she still considers reasons why he could be scum (as in here). Her scumreads are more nebulous due to the nature of the game, but it's clear that she's trying to talk to her townreads about what she thinks the best lynch and that she's trying hard to guide the town to a win - I don't get that sense at all here.

Similar response to being lynched here - is upset that people don't see her as obvtown as shit, starts to suspect people for pushes on her who she expects to know her better - this one is a little weird because there's a plan to win the game in place and I don't actually understand where her lynch came from at all...?

Her play here is pretty much exactly what I expect - after clawing out of her mislynch D1 (predecessor was suspected), there's great scumhunting vs RC (the scum spearheading her push as she goes down), strong emotional investment almost instantly, fights it all the way down.

Contrast that with Micro 792; she gets a bit frustrated at Mathdino for reasons that aren't "I'm obviously town and this lynch is horrible", and argues with him as she goes down but it's much more going through the motions (like it is here), and the strong sense of her scumhunting as she goes down and trying to guide the town in the right direction just isn't there.
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Post Post #732 (isolation #149) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:15 pm

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oops i lied.

porb important because mathdino mentioned that and is not exactly true. this is not a case of me pushing nsg back because i'm upset about being lynched. don't let anybody put it in this narrative.

at first, i was upset, yes, but i was letting it go because i was considering nsg being town but just wrong. sort of written myself off as a collateral damage.

my view has changed after NSG has blatantly misrepped what kind of reads i have been pushing as scum. claiming she has misremembered them, my two only pushes from two different games.

now im done
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Post Post #736 (isolation #150) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:04 am

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In post 733, BuJaber wrote:Sajj considering only 1 lurker joined nsg's wagon and dino who is pretty confident on his townread hasn't this seems like an overreaction.
Math is Math, even if he had doubt he wouldn't openly share them if he isn't sure enough. NSG is better at the game so obviously it is worth to lynch me instead of her.

This is a dead game, posting any content believable enough gives you twoncred. My wagon as of right now is two lurkers, NSG and Math and Awoo.
She ignored every in game factor that should possibly give her a pause, nobody was, at least openly, scumreading me before she's made the case. Only effort she put in was making her case look good. Things from the thread were cases of me not playing to her perception of my town play. Quote from other game was misrepped and taken out of context to suit the case.
If she is town then i think it had nothing to do with game solving but a lot with some gut feeling she had about me that needed justification. I don't think she should be trusted with her reads if she keeps playing like that.

All that said you will have to make a decision tomorrow. I don't think there is anything else to be said this day phase. Hammer me whenever you are ready.
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Post Post #751 (isolation #151) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:29 am

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In post 743, BuJaber wrote:I get the demotivation and helplessness if she is town. I also wouldn't condemn all self-votes. But doing it here at this time amd putting herself at L-1 is close to game throwing. Believe me I did it in a 3p lylo in my newbie game because I felt frustrated and tried a hail mary gambit. I have since learned my lesson. You don't self-vote when it more or less guarantees your lynch.
dude, how can you be so unaware of your surroundings :giggle:
how is putting myself at l-1 on D1 two days before deadline game throwing? I have provided more than enough content for you all to talk about when I flip town.
what do you expect me to do? push me for some last minute lynch that i don't bellieve to save myself? i like to think i'm more game aware than that.
This is pretty much the same as hammering yourself as a townie. Because if town she can't possibly know that scum wouldn't login before she returns and hammer her. And sure a hammer would look shady but townies get trigger happy too when deadline is near.
What planet are you on? Do you think you can solve me v NSG without a lynch? Good luck with that because IF both of us are town then we are not dying any time soon. How do you imagine next day phase will look like? Half of the players awol and nsg still on me (i doubt she will back off of this since she didn't do it already).
Yesterday is a content, maybe not the best content but still. People have and will be forced into making stances. D2, after my flip they will also have to make a decision how to handle NSG. That's plenty of material to work on going forward.
Not confirming me today is a waste of a day phase.
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Post Post #754 (isolation #152) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:41 am

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meh i get upset and frustrated as both alignments.
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Post Post #758 (isolation #153) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:25 am

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i don't think there is a better solution than confirming one of the sides.

if this doesn't get solved once and for all it will be a chaos tomorrow, nobody benefits from that but scum.

worst case scenario you mislynch a town, best case scenario you lynch scum d1. a lot of people like nsg's case so i guess chances are better than random.
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Post Post #760 (isolation #154) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:04 am

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If there was someone else in my place I'd lynch them regardless of my read on them. No lynch is a no go.

You want me to reconsider my approach I don't think there is anything to reconsider as long as there is no better solution.
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Post Post #762 (isolation #155) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:15 am

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No need to declare anything, I don't have anything to claim
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Post Post #763 (isolation #156) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:15 am

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761 is a bad post btw
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Post Post #774 (isolation #157) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:20 am

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she forgot to add i could be scumteam with seal

let's get this phase over with guys
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Post Post #777 (isolation #158) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:36 am

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cry me a river
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Post Post #778 (isolation #159) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:39 am

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seriously guys, nothing good will come from keeping me and her in the game.

let's lynch me for a better tomorrow.
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Post Post #790 (isolation #160) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:07 am

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i don't think it was a hammer.

sorry Math, but you should do it
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Post Post #797 (isolation #161) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:36 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #801 (isolation #162) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:55 am

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jesus mutant why are you so blatantly scummy lol
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Post Post #805 (isolation #163) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:59 am

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In post 802, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 801, Scioness Sajj wrote:jesus mutant why are you so blatantly scummy lol
Where's this come from now? :(
wording in 799 :giggle:
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Post Post #809 (isolation #164) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:12 am

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In post 798, Mathdino wrote:scioness if i truly thought nsg was scum on your townflip, i would be lynching you in order to one-two BoP her
i've done that before, only unsuccessfully because i got NK'd before i had the chance to BoP someone

i don't think that though
there's a difference between "NSG with super solid reads" and "NSG on a bad tunnel" and i'm starting to think it's the latter
I don't care what you think of her and I don't know why I should. It upsets me every time I see her mention my meta. She won't stop doing that.

I had to put up with this shit with oxy. I'm not putting up with it here.
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Post Post #815 (isolation #165) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:18 am

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so?
apparently, i'm always being tunneled when i'm town. why should i always be on receiving end?
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Post Post #819 (isolation #166) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:38 am

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In post 810, BuJaber wrote:@sajj 2 days is nothing. You should consider that something around 1/4 or more of the playerbase will never login on any particular day and thus it's less time than you may expect when we are talking about a wagon being hammered.
hence my vote. i didn't think we would get enough support for my lynch on it's own. i still think it was the right move to lynch me i don't deal well with tunnels.

i admit it would be smarter of me to just hammer myself, i thought you said i was good information lynch and expected you to vote me.

doesn't really matter now.
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Post Post #827 (isolation #167) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:55 pm

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VOTE: scioness
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Post Post #829 (isolation #168) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:25 pm

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ud - yeah
aa9:
re: Math, I townread him and I think he is good enough player that scum would want to get rid of him asap.
wave - sure, if you think so
rest, i said that because i'm lazy and didn't bother writing what i know was already in the thread.
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3. He doesn't want to vote me even though he could.
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Post Post #843 (isolation #169) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:07 pm

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In post 840, wavemode wrote:it doesn't matter

i know i'm not going to convince you of this but it really doesn't. it'd still be an awful move from his perspective, especially after taking a stance earlier that scioness is town, and also especially if his partner is already on the wagon
i'm a little convinced
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Post Post #844 (isolation #170) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:08 pm

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i have also lost interest in seal

i don't need his blood anymore
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Post Post #846 (isolation #171) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:16 pm

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eh i feel like ud is more tunnel-y as scum?
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Post Post #854 (isolation #172) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:12 am

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VOTE: myloninja13
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Post Post #856 (isolation #173) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:28 am

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read a game maybe and you can find out
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Post Post #859 (isolation #174) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:36 am

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VOTE: unrealseal

mylo is still good policy
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Post Post #872 (isolation #175) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:59 am

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invis isn't currently in my lynchpool
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Post Post #882 (isolation #176) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:28 pm

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is this how she usually plays?
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Post Post #884 (isolation #177) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:44 pm

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VOTE: Invisibility

i think it's two more to go

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will be vla upcoming week btw
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Post Post #894 (isolation #178) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:53 am

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that's another way to solve the problem :giggle:

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Post Post #905 (isolation #179) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:54 pm

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???????

are you townreading me now?
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Post Post #907 (isolation #180) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:02 pm

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so why did math kill nsg exactly? to keep me around as a mislynch in lylo?
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Post Post #908 (isolation #181) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:05 pm

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and what association are clearing me? you mean your theory with math?
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Post Post #910 (isolation #182) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:12 pm

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hmmm seems plausible I guess.
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Post Post #946 (isolation #183) » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:10 am

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VOTE: uglyduck
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Post Post #948 (isolation #184) » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:16 am

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give us someone better
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Post Post #967 (isolation #185) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:30 am

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you are overreacting
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Post Post #969 (isolation #186) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:40 am

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i mean, it looks like your presence has been mostly ignored yesterday. idk if postng more = easier to read

do you still think i may be buddies with seal?
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Post Post #973 (isolation #187) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:58 am

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don't know you, can't judge i guess. we will see how it goes.


(most likely won't be on until end on my vla which is monday)
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Post Post #1002 (isolation #188) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:18 am

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hmmm
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #189) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:09 pm

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you have made a new wagon! what's now?

btw UD was a counter wagon to US. Does counter wagon need a counter wagon?
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Post Post #1037 (isolation #190) » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:50 am

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if that isn't opportunistic idk what is lol
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Post Post #1039 (isolation #191) » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:01 pm

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it didn't get to me but idk how far away we are
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Post Post #1041 (isolation #192) » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:39 pm

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well i'm enlightened now

wonder if i'd have better read on seal if he did more than just prod dodge
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Post Post #1042 (isolation #193) » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:45 pm

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oops almost hammered UD. I can hold this hammer until my vla ends.

Math, tell me why I shouldn't
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Post Post #1043 (isolation #194) » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:51 pm

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btw i suspend my scumread on seal for the time being
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Post Post #1097 (isolation #195) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:27 am

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hmm looks like we will get a replacement anyways

aren't you guys excited
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Post Post #1108 (isolation #196) » Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:46 am

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Hi
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Post Post #1141 (isolation #197) » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:15 pm

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Do we wait for math or no?
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Post Post #1142 (isolation #198) » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:25 pm

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Actually nvm I don't want to end the day yet
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Post Post #1154 (isolation #199) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:50 am

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Could you explain in your own words why was Math townreading ugly duck, based on neighborhood.
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