Open 728: Sharing is Caring (GAME OVER)

[Mathdino]

I no longer want the worst to claim

Was frustrated at the time, sorry about that.

[Zoronos]

Do you think the worst is town?

[Mathdino]

Probably
If he's scum he's probably scum with pintu
So I'd like to lynch pintu first then massclaim tomorrow after the vig and cop flips

[Mathdino]

Notice how incredibly little that chatterbox duckling has talked about pintu
And for those of you who think I'm a team with TW, read our interactions because that's out of both our ranges to talk about it

TWscum thrives on pocketing town and distracting from his team

A TW scumflip would essentially guarantee a next lynch on pintu and vice versa
TW deciding the nk might also explain keeping me alive - he had me pocketed

We should flip pintu

[Zoronos]

If he's scum he's probably scum with pintu

I can think of one other possible scum partner for him here, but I concede this has crossed my mind a number of times in the last day or two.

[Mathdino]

TW followed me onto both Hitalt and davesaz
He's not going to bus himself into 3p, he doesn't think he's THAT good

The number of viable scumteams for him is low
The number of viable scumteams for pintu is high

So if you're scumreading TW, you should wait for pintus flip and tonight's results
We'll get 4 pieces of information come tomorrow

[ruru]

I am not seeing it

Spoiler:

incorrect and we need to focus elsewhere

This is a weird way to talk to someone you're scumreading, and could be an attempt to communicate without daytalk

You're still on ofhrz, which is still bad and one of the main reasons I scumread you

and it's shit and you can do better and you can also do better than your last one

These are hard for me to describe but I just remember writing SvS posts and feeling that they were awkward in the same way

I don't think town avoids finding scum like you've been doing

This is a major inconsistency with jjh's defense of you if you're town

He could just be being inconsistent for no reason, but it could also be tmi

[ruru]

Personally jjh is more SvS-feeling than tw to me there, so there's no way of knowing whether or not it's jjh messing with associatives

[Mathdino]

Exactly
Which is why we should lynch pintu

[ruru]

Is zoro still locktown

[Zoronos]

He's not going to bus himself into 3p, he doesn't think he's THAT good

I can think of three total viable scum teams for TW, but you predicated one out from this discussion for obvious reasons.
How many viable teams are you seeing for Pintu?

[Mathdino]

His d1 play is unfakable, as is his AtE
He just came back from hiatus, he's not some top tier scum player

[Mathdino]

I can think of three total viable scum teams for TW, but you predicated one out from this discussion for obvious reasons.
How many viable teams are you seeing for Pintu?

Uh OK then list all the viable scumteams

3 possible partners is low
In the span of one day night cycle, 1 can be lynched, 1 can be copped, and 1 can be killed

[ruru]

Hmm

Zoro you mentioned playing on another site right?

Do you mind linking a scumgame from there

[Zoronos]

Uh OK then list all the viable scumteams

3 possible partners is low
In the span of one day night cycle, 1 can be lynched, 1 can be copped, and 1 can be killed

Oh, I agree.
Math+TW -> predicated out for obvious reasons in your eyes
Blackstar+TW (I re-read JJH's iso this morning and think there's an outside chance of some 'deepwolfing' here, to steal NSG's phrase. He's still largely in my town pile, but I've been blindspotting him for a while)
Pintu+TW

The triple decker bus, while unlikely, is I guess possible but I try to live in the world of the probable rather than the world of the possible.

[Mathdino]

I would personally take Zor to endgame without a doubt in my mind

[Zoronos]

Hmm

Zoro you mentioned playing on another site right?

Do you mind linking a scumgame from there

I apologize, but I can't do such a thing.

a) I don't like talking about its existence because it's private.
b) It's invite only authentication locked so I can't show you a game even if I wanted to without inviting you to the site permanently, which as much as I like you, I probably won't.
c) My scum game is crap. I can tell you my scum meta but we're in an alignment sensitive context so you'd have to decide whether to believe me already, which would make it NAI.

[Mathdino]

I have an inno on blackstar so understand that I'm going to be biased here
There's no universe where it makes sense for me to vote TW

If it makes you feel more comfortable, I can request a copcheck on myself assuming I'm not the cop

Understand that I as scum probably would be able to shoot the cop or fake a guilty on them tomorrow anyway, so if I'm being completely honest, there's a definite risk in that
Granted that's true regardless of who the cop checks

Vigs are easier to shoot than cops anyway

[the worst]

considering you're highly cognisant of my scumgame and also optimal PR play there's much much much higher value in me shooting you over nsg math

not totally caught up just throwing that down

[Zoronos]

How smart is TW when he's scum about picking up crumbs and shooting them?

[Mathdino]

Yeah that may be true but I was lowkey making a bullshit concession there

TW is just not a good lynch, folks

Help me flip pintu

Edit: average? No one crumbed this game except HWS who claimed anyway

[Mathdino]

At least I didn't notice anyone passively crumb
Cryptographic crumbs are tough and I think I'm the only one here who checks for those as scum

[Zoronos]

I have an inno on blackstar so understand that I'm going to be biased here
There's no universe where it makes sense for me to vote TW

If it makes you feel more comfortable, I can request a copcheck on myself assuming I'm not the cop

I am not in a position where I feel a need to publicly dictate cop checks.
Also, I understand your inno statement on blackstar, and as noted he was in my townpile until recently based on his D1 play, so my urge to lynch him is very low.
But I would like to publicly state my updated blind spot based on the re-read of JJH and the EoD events yesterday. So, there you go.

Basically the world where Blackstar is scum is that either he got nervous about the 'no busses' strategy and cracked early or saw Dave's willingness to be the -1 and so hopped on to harvest the town cred.
I think balance of probability still indicates town blackstar, but he was in my 'lock town take to lylo without hestitation' pile before, and now I have a hesitation.

[Zoronos]

At least I didn't notice anyone passively crumb
Cryptographic crumbs are tough and I think I'm the only one here who checks for those as scum

I was actually thinking more about behavioral tells.
That's how I PR hunt. Maybe calling them crumbs is an abuse of vocabulary.

[the worst]

Want me with you on Pintu?

I seriously see a Hit red flip before a Pintu red flip but if we can lynch them both I'm fine with that.