Mini 2006: Scummer in this game UPick GAME OVER

beeboy · Thu May 10, 2018 5:00 pm

Maria if you for some reason read these posts that add nothing to the game.
Can you tell me your thoughts on Pine/Alisae?

beeboy · Thu May 10, 2018 5:05 pm

Yeah I am cool with giving you time, I don't really have a desire to end the day phase or even consider lynching you today since I am town leaning your slot.
Although I know a lot of other people do want to end the day and I don't really intend to push against them either.

beeboy · Thu May 10, 2018 5:06 pm

In post 2811, OnTheMark wrote:Anyone faking masons has a prod dodge
(48 hours)

(expired on 2018-05-12 21:50:21)

To rescind without it factoring heavily into my reads.

Anyone rescinding after that point is a scum claim.

I agree with pine that I didn't overly like this post.
I am not sure if it's scummy and I don't agree with Pine's reasoning but like the post is bad.

I just can't decide if it's wolfy or not.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 6:24 am

Scum masons used to be allowed in normal games (paired with town masons) which was incredibly stupid although that would be considered bastard by basically everyone on today's site meta.
Mason text currently is something along the lines of "you know you share the alignment of your partner" so technically speaking without the game being bastard you can have a scum mason as long as they are paired with another scum.

Although glgl finding a scum mason in the past 3 years on this site.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 6:28 am

No it would actually be bastard to have a scum mason paired with town.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 6:32 am

If I was a scum mason with lovebird I would never have claimed Mason.
It's shitty play, I would have played as if I was a goon and hope for some role cop rng if I was lucky.

Also playing around something that hasn't been used in like 3-5 years isn't exactly something I think we should be doing until like lylo.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 9:23 am

I want Mastina to gambit and kill Nico Robin to keep me and lovebird alive.
I don't see what part of this you guys don't understand.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 9:24 am

In post 2931, beeboy wrote:I want Mastina to gambit and kill Nico Robin to keep me and lovebird alive.
I don't see what part of this you guys don't understand.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 9:31 am

VOTE: Momrangal

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 9:31 am

Mastina if you truly intend on busing actually do it pls.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 9:42 am

Just vote Momrangal please.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 9:43 am

Logic says to just lynch the outed scum.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 10:00 am

OTM I just want to make something clear given this situation.

I do think Mastina is scum a lot of the time here, but the claims themselves doesn't mean I am ever going to lynch Nico Robin.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 10:08 am

You guys are so bad at voting Mom.
Also what is her flavor I don't think anyone answered me when I asked.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 10:13 am

In post 2957, CheekyTeeky wrote:Beeboy why would mom claim a scumrole igdi?

Have you not seen scum actually claim there roles before?
Like a random role cop claim by a scum rolecop or a real tracker claim from scum given its a "confirmable" role thinking it will help them. It's not that uncommon for scum to do that sort of thing.

This game is role madness and Cheetory may not have given them fake claims, she couldn't have just claimed VT.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 10:15 am

I've seen scum literally deviate from there fake claims before and out themselves as a result.
I've deviated from my fake claim before and put myself in a worse spot as scum.

Not every scum action is good and not every scum action is really well thought out.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 10:15 am

What is Mom's flavor?
Or is that not even claimed info?

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 10:17 am

Reading her ISO I think it's Mastina? I guess to a small degree that makes sense?

I'll vote Not Mafia I guess, I just don't feel like I need to be alive to make that lynch happen..

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 10:19 am

I literally just think Mom claimed her scum role.
What aspects of her play are particularly townie?

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 11:20 am

I mean Mastina, the thing about Cheetory not answering questions publically or privately doesn't apply to scum.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 11:27 am

I don't know why any of this discussion should incentivise me to hammer OTM. I don't have a read on the slot and Lovebird has him as town?
I think I could read the slot pretty easily if I put in the effort but I am not really doing that atm because I am lazy.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 11:33 am

In post 2990, NicoRobin wrote:Why? Because I have, should I say, an ability that would give you that incentive if you truly townread me.

I don't think you have role based info to believe OTM is scum.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 11:41 am

If I had to guess myself I'd say the slot was town.
I just don't like pulling triggers like that without really putting the thought into the read or having some kind of tell to back it up.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 11:43 am

I feel like the way OTM is approaching this push is the way they'd be doing it as town.
I think there are easier pushes to make here as well.

Wisdom himself was also pretty reasonably playing in a way I'd expect him to as town.

I just have 0 idea as to how both these players would approach the game as scum I don't really want to shove this read down anyone's throat the way I'd do if you start pushing my other reads.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 11:45 am

Honestly if I just read a few scum games and tried to review meta I'd be able to make up my mind.
But ehh idk I think we have enough good options that I don't particularly mind.

{Mom, Not Mafia, LLD} are all pretty solid choices and going option OTM just feels meh to me.
I don't think Mastina can kill me if she is scum so I am fine leaving her alive and not lynching her either, it's a trade off I am willing to make.
+ I just see my flip getting her killed anyway?

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 11:46 am

In post 3002, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 2997, beeboy wrote:If I had to guess myself I'd say the slot was town.
I just don't like pulling triggers like that without really putting the thought into the read or having some kind of tell to back it up.
and answer my question while you're at it: what's the point of townreading me if you cannot even trust me enough here?

Which one?
Because I literally know lovebird is town and she thinks that OTM is town so I can't really put my trust into both of you at the same time.

beeboy · Fri May 11, 2018 1:29 pm

{Not_Mafia, LLD, Mom, Mastina}

Scum are in here.

beeboy · Sun May 13, 2018 5:16 am

Why is letting the scum mason cop figure out that me and lovebird ade the real masons is somehow a good solution to our issues in thread.

beeboy · Sun May 13, 2018 5:24 am

I just wanna lynch the scum mason cop it isnt a lot to ask for.

beeboy · Mon May 14, 2018 10:49 am

@mod I need to replace out

Sorry no time for this game, should have done this 1 week ago tbh.

beeboy · Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:15 am

At the time of my replace out I didn't think Lovebird was town, I largely wanted to put lovebird in a spot where she was town read really strongly to see how she would react to that for an easy read. Which is where I think she becomes easy to read.
Hence why I claimed a really strong town read for hard meta reasons.
I fake claimed cause I wanted to pressure Mastina's claim since I didn't actually trust it until I was really deep into my claim.

I would have said that but I wanted retracting to be up to my replacement on replace out and while alive and in the game I just didn't want to deal with being pushed and I liked pushing LLD/Momrangal/(I forgot my 3rd read).

99% of the time people don't give a shit about what I say so I don't mind getting content while misrepresenting my reads.

Sorry Dino I didn't mean to fuck you over.