Open 727 - 09:12 Night 3

[AP]

S-s-sorry I-I'm t-t-trying t-to think o-of a way out of t-t-this

I-I-I am n-n-not s-s-s-scum!

H-H-Hold on a s-s-s-second! Y-Y-You're not K-K-K-Kokichi Oma, Are you??

[AP]

These are vicious rumours

You get a STRONG TOWN READ for this post alone!

[AP]

my scum buddies, Kanye West

Not sure if you're claiming Jay-Z or Kim Kardashian here, tbh!

[AP]

Should I pretend to fall for that? It'd give me a lot of town points...

I'd suggest a brief response, all in caps, lots of punctuation
No gif

So, you want something BIG (all caps), still (No GIF), in briefs (erm.. what do you have against boxers?).

And now you know I'm the one who put the pun in punctuation.

[AP]

OK, not sure how the VC looks like, but I think Hiraki's @L-1, Math has a couple of votes and someone's voting tw. Am I correct?

Now the problem is you guys robbed me off my right to RVS. I wanted to vote Invisibility with the reason being: a shot in the dark. Consider it's been done and treat it as such, please.

Now let me wait for the setup breaking notes from Mathdino.

[AP]

What is bothering you about AP, Green Crayons?

He is making fewer jokes than usual which is a bit strange

This an all masculine player list though.

[AP]

I'm losing mine.

Virginity??

[AP]

A wise man once told me that OMGUS is scummy

VOTE: Green Crayons

[AP]

Whenever I see too many ducks in the same game.. I duck!

[AP]

okkkkkk fine

VOTE: AP

you have sold me on my own wagon
next step: ice to the Eskimos

pedit: nearly all of my posting is phone posting

You could've at least waited till I OMGUS'd Dino before you voted me. Now if I vote you (most recent vote on me) the link between us is confirmed (I thought I saw someone suggesting it was me + Dino. I giggled)

[AP]

*Sigh*

And now I feel like a chubby rooster eaten by a stingy cat!

[AP]

I think tw is the scum on my wagon. I think Mylo might be the other one. I also believe MWNN is really pushing it putting me @L-1 with N_M off the wagon! *Gulp*

[AP]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think my wagon currently looks like this:

AP (4): Green Crayons, Mathdino, the worst, ManWithNoName,

[AP]

tw is the scum on my wagon.

strength of srsness pls

Pretty serious. I don't think Dino sheeps you (although he voted first) as scum, and I hard TR MWNN. I mean, theoretically Green Crayons could be scum, but I don't think he would park his vote on me of this lot if he was.

YOU conceded that I have NEVER misread you before. Right? So, why the paranoia here if you are town?

P-edit: Hmmmm... I need to reread the game for real. I actually need to step up my game and stop trying to be overly reliant on the others. Give me 24 hours to get back in shape.

[AP]

any pre-claim hammer would be quick lynched tomorrow.

ez

Try to get that point across to N_M

as either alignment

. (Hint: He'll do it anyway, and assuming he is Town here you would have exhausted the 2 mislynches we're allowed in this setup and we would already be in LyLo).

[AP]

I don't think Dino sheeps you (although he voted first) as scum

why not?

Because he doesn't. It's as simple as that. Scum!Dino pockets me and then either shoot me at night or -if I'm pocketed well enough- uses me to get his next mislynch and

we are in LyLo already

. It only takes 2 mislynches and I'm a sucker for Dino (and I'm not even ashamed of admitting it).

[AP]

Spoiler: Mathdino ISO

But yeah I've been lowkey phoning it in onsite lately
Feelsbadman
If there were a setup break I'd letcha know tho

"There's a way to win this setup optimally for town" says town Mathdino, who still hasn't arrived.

"I never roll scum at all somehow, and when I do, I'm hard to read" says Mathdino when he gets scum, I would guess.

"For some reason I'm not saying any of this stuff and a jerk alt is pretending I am" says Mathdino, also absent at the time.

Holy shit i missed this post lollll

I will have you know that ellibereth has publicly called me essentially creature level easy to read

yeah but AP is more BoPable than mylo is

granted AP has a self imposed meta of
"Am I playing weird because I'm a PR? Or a VT trying to draw the NK? Or a PR trying to look like he's trying to draw the NK? Or a VT playing to my PR meta of looking like I'm trying to draw the NK?

Or am I just scum?"

so that's pretty annoying

but yeah mylo has no such burden of looking town early on

mylo isn't really playing his scumgame

oh good call

his ISO has nothing town in it

VOTE: AP

heart hasn't been in mafia these past few days

someone give me the rundown of the cool wagons to join today

Now let me wait for the setup breaking notes from Mathdino.

I did a token write up when I rolled scum in this setup

It was pretty unnecessary though

There isn't really much to this - I recommend breadcrumbing in a completely unintelligible way and then not acting like a PR if you're a PR

Keeping those alive is really the main mechanical priority

Even N_M avoided L-1, do you think your acting is nearly as par?

Pre-Edit: Egotistical isn't the same thing as the best.

okay so what's the point of being an ass here exactly

oh boy this is exciting

let's get more votes amirite

VOTE: Hiraki
Pagetop L-1 boys
And not even N_M-1

Aside from the

strong

proposition Scum!Dino does

not

sheep someone else's read on me

when he claims to be able to correctly peg me 100% of the time

, I can't really argue for his towniness in this game.

However, based on my experience with him I'd say I'm pretty sure he is Town here and his disengagement is genuine.

P-edit: I'm working on ISOs now. Give me a few minutes.

[AP]

MWNN is very likely Town. He tends to lurk as scum (I think), and his content -while not exactly rich- meets the minimum requirements for true scum hunting.

[AP]

N_M is definitely town. If he was scum he would have claimed SCUM rather than a PR.

[AP]

tw is... um.. tw. I mean, his ISO does look TOWN, but then I was SCUM with him and he also looked TOWN.

But seriously, this is how I expect tw to be playing as either alignment in this game. Town lean, maybe, but wouldn't be surprised if he flipped red and was just mimicking his villager play.

[AP]

Green Crayons I don't have much meta on. All I can say is he doesn't like my playstyle in general, but I can't really say anything beyond that.

[AP]

@Hiraki: Do you have the link(s) for the Inception game? If I recall, you were scum in that one. Yes?

[AP]

Invisibility is so much different here than he was in Purgatory (the game Hiraki linked). All his posts here are "half-liners"!!

[AP]

Mylo: From what little he posted it feels he's carefree here, unlike the last game where he was scum with JJD and the game was over in just 2 days.

[AP]

And OF COURSE; Iconeum's ISO is so much IOA.

[AP]

But in all seriousness, I was feeling guilty I wasn't much engaged myself, but after doing ISOs I feel like nobody really has done much more than I did. It's like we're chatting and having a game on the side.

[AP]

Gun to my head I'd say my reads are: N_M > Mathdino > MWNN > Mylo > tw > Hiraki > GC > Invis (from towniest to scummiest, although "scummy" isn't the right term. It's more of "less townie" because nobody has really said or done anything that could be described as "scummy" per se.)

@tw: I retract my opposition to you voting me. I understand now that voting me is as good as voting anyone else, tbh.

[AP]

Green Crayons I don't have much meta on. All I can say is he doesn't like my playstyle in general, but I can't really say anything beyond that.

This is bad reading comprehension of my posts about you, ftr.

I'm not even talking about your posts in this game though.

[AP]

VOTE: Sergio Ramos

THIS needs to die

[AP]

VOTE: Sergio Ramos

THIS needs to die

What are you doing this game?

If you don't get it, forget it.

P.S. At least I know Mathdino knows what I'm talking about.

[AP]

Overall critique.

Mate, it really had nothing to do with this game, or site even. It's a reference to a real life football game, namely the UEFA Champions League final. Sergio Ramos should've been at least yellow carded, but the ref didn't even whistle for a foul that had Liverpool's best player injured and soon after left the field.

[AP]

GC is clearly town here.

How so?

[AP]

@MWNN: Let me get this straight.. you are willing to sacrifice 50% of our mislynches on someone you;re not even SRing? I would fully understand if we had like 4 mislynches before LyLo, but I think this us borderline on throwing the game in this here situation. Just my 40% of a nickel.

[AP]

@Hiraki: Read the bloody thread, will you? Thank you very much.

[AP]

VOTE: Myloninja13

I don't care if he's not playing the scum game

, I think this is a necessary

policy lynch

at this point. There's

not much scum motivation

but his play is purely anti-town.

I mean, he could not have phrased it any clearer.

[AP]

I'm good with TW or AP, thanks for the info.

And now he turns it into a personal thing because he doesn't want to read ONE BLOODY NEW PAGE!

[AP]

Actually, I read what you said and then realized you were scum for pushing that argument. Don't assume what I'm thinking.

Ser-bloody-iously?? Tell the class how it's scummy to oppose a PL in a 9-players game. Thank you.

[AP]

It's opportunistic

I get the feeling that I'm drunk or have overdosed (Hint: I neither drink alcohol nor do I do drugs).

"it opportunistic" to object to PL. How does that even make sense? I did NOT attack MWNN for it. I merely opposed the notion without even a hint of it being scum-motivated. Try again.

[AP]

The intent itself is not scummy. There is no reason why scum would do it over a town player.

See above.

[AP]

That's

opportunistic voting

101.

Bla bla bla.. I have skipped all the nonsense to save myself (and others) the agony. Now show me where I voted MWNN or shut up.

[AP]

Is it town-motivated to throw games?

If it's "game throwing" then it

must be

from town. Otherwise, it would be

correct play from scum

, Einstein!

[AP]

I think my real problem is what you said - you're NOT voting MWNN. However, you have no real scumreads. Why not vote there? Why let MWNN slide when you found something potentially scummy with him but write it off as town anyway?

Just doesn't add up to me.

It's NOT scummy. It's a STUPID town mindset. (The idea is, not MWNN). Scum would NOT push a lynch in a 9-players game while actively

explicitly

stating it's a PL with no SR on the slot.

Here's how I would have expected Scum!MWNN to do it: "While I SCUM READ him, I also think he can go as either alignment because I don't trust him in LyLo."

See the difference? "He's scumm AND he's also a policy lynch" not "He's policy but I do not scum read him".

[AP]

I don't get how you can call him town for acting like anything like town, from your own words.

How is he scummy? When he acts like town?

FFS, can somebody else read my posts and try to translate them to this guy's lingo? I give up.

[AP]

upon a refresher on myloninja meta, apparently forgetting to check the thread for days on end is actually a 100% scumtell for him given his 2 scumgames and 2 towngames onsite

I didn't know that!

VOTE: Mylo

Best argument presented yet.

[AP]

kill me

Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody kill the dinosaur

[AP]

Wait, I'm not L-1, I just realised Math was already voting me anyway.

Welp, never mind lol.

Well, you are now.. I think

[AP]

VOTE: Mylo

L-1

*Gulp*

Did I actually hammer w/o a claim??? Tell me I don't love N_M

that

much!

[AP]

Dude you just hammered

One of those days I

will

learn to not post while catching up (or at least not cast a vote).

[AP]

OK. so I seem to have messed it up for one side or the other.

[AP]

Consider remembering to play the games you sign up for

To tell you the truth (and I mean

the

truth) I've been more concerned with creating and balancing quite a few closed setups that I intend to run in sequence shortly. I wanted to have a signature to them, so working on several setups simultaneously to make sure they have the necessary craziness while not crossing the border.

[AP]

My thoughts are not

in

the games I'm currently in.

[AP]

I would've rather played until we had a lunch I actually wanted more...

1- You asked for DINNER not lunch
2- You said you wanted it BEFORE we played, not after

Why did you change your mind??

[AP]

same

?? Literally no one had posted after the mod's day opener. What am I missing?

[AP]

then who is the real tracker!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!

Ain't it obvious? Unless you want to CC.

So, we should have one conf!town (aside from he PR) today. One Mafioso alive = Tracker nails them or clears someone from being it.

[AP]

invisibility is clear

Cool. Now let's do some VCA

[AP]

Vote Count 1.1

Hiraki (3): the worst,

Not_Mafia, Mathdino

(L-2)
Mathdino (2):

ManWithNoName,

Hiraki

Not_Mafia (0)
Green Crayons (0)
Myloninja13 (0)
ManWithNoName (0)
Invisibility (0)
AP (1): Green Crayons
the worst (1):

Invisibility

Not voting: AP,

Myloninja13

This tells me the duck is likely town. There was no need for bussing that early and even if there was it would be the other way around (the PR bussing the Goon)

[AP]

Vote Count 1.2

Sergio Ramos

(2): AP, Iconeum
[/i]

Iconeum is confirmed town, btw

[AP]

but then who's scum

You're funny. First "who's the Tracker" then "who's scum"??

GC is. Unless you think I'm clearing tw and FoSing myself!

[AP]

Well, that was some

short

VCA/ At least let me read the rest of the thread before I vote

[AP]

GC is two people??!?!?!?!

What?

[AP]

OK, let's end this...

VOTE: GC

N_M Town MVP

[AP]

green crayon flips red crayon

if not its AP

I was like 100% sure the game was over until you posted this. *Gulp*

tw... are you.. perhaps.. trolling ME?? IN THIS DAY???

[AP]

what

NVM. He knows exactly what I'm talking about.

[AP]

wow AP you’re even worse with twilight talk

You won't get it even if I tried to explain. Suffice it to say this is an alt and tw knows my main. OK? So, IF by some heavenly miracle you are not scum here then he did "the worst" thing to me on this very special occasion.

[AP]

if GC flips green i will be sad

if GC flips green i will be genuinely shocked

But his "reasoning" for FoSing me still confirm to me he

is

scum and just trolling. Like "Ap's is laying the foundation to vote tw next" is all kinds of bad, because

hell

.. you (invis) are cleared by N_M. N_M is the TPR. GC is the lynchee. I know my own alignment. So if

by a heavenly miracle

GC flipped green at all, who

do

I have left to vote anyway?

[AP]

&So, neither I nor tw actually need to lay any bases for our next vote IF GC flips green. It'd be me and him cross voting and you (invis) the decider.

[AP]

I think it's AP if it's not GC

?? Man you're giving me cold feet. How sure are you GC is scum here??

[AP]

Tell you what? NVM. I'm NOT going to ruin my day by overthinking "what ifs". I'm just chillin' and enjoying my time.

[AP]

[quote="In post 540, Not_Mafia"][/quote]

Only one thing to do here

VOTE: the worst

(and -of course- he will vote me, so it's down to invis to decide here)

[AP]

surprised Math misread you given your history. also still kinda surprised GC flipped green after that crap.

Oh, man. You're getting better by the minute. I still remember when you didn't know what to do as scum. yet here you are almost making me want to double check my own role PM.

FTR; I won't feel super bitter if I lose this one to you. You well deserve it.

[AP]

rip me im an alt

You are????

[AP]

can scum just reveal themselves now kthxbai

You don't say!! I would have never guessed it.

P-edit: WELL DONE! Yaaaay! WE WIN!!

[AP]

FTR, since he probably won't come back to say it, Iconeum screwed up my action PM and said that N_M was a rolecop. That's why my play was bad.

And when he corrected it (after Hiraki was lynched) I though he messed up again and that he meant N_M was the Follower, so I shot Espeonage thinking he was the Tracker.

[AP]

But all-in-all it served me well because I only killed N_M when I absolutely had to. Otherwise, it would have been playing directly against my win con.

[AP]

I said so in dead chat.

Dead chat doesn't count.