Open 729 - Cul de Sac!

[northsidegal]

Let's talk about this game. We know your stance on sajj. And now that I've had a glimpse into the version of reality you live in I don't envy the difficult position you must put yourself before any vote. The decision on who to vote for at any time in any game must be agonizing to you if you are considering every possibility no matter how improbable it is. 1 But I want to know what you think of duck and aa9. 2 I want to know why you made the conscious choice of derailing two healthy counterwagons that split up pretty much the entire playerbase and why you made this decision less than 4 days before deadline. Do you really townread them so strongly? Do you think if sajj is scum they have to be town? Why is a sajj lynch so urgent? 3

1 - is this sarcasm? i'm not sure where this is coming from. what have i said or done that's made you say this?

2 - i think uglyduck is probably town. i'm not really sure on arcangel. i don't really townread her, but obviously i'd rather not lynch her today.

3 - i didn't make the conscious choice to derail anything, i made the conscious choice to push my top scumread. it has nothing to do with my reads on them. i think uglyduck is town regardless of scioness' alignment, and for arcangel i really have no idea. i think for arcangel it's worth mentioning that the times scioness has rolled scum she very much looks for support from her scumbuddies in the scum PT - you can check this for yourself in the newbie 1851 and open 721 scum threads.

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Subject: Open 721 - Mafia Thread Poison Peddlers

why is nobody talking

talk to me i need

emotional
support

initially i was going to say that that probably points towards a non-lurker scumbuddy but i guess there's nothing to really imply that. that is, if scioness were to be scum, i don't think i could tell the difference between scioness who had an active partner to talk to and scioness who had a lurker partner.

[northsidegal]

Scioness Sajj (5) (L-1): Mathdino, northsidegal, Awoo, wingedcatgirl, Myloninja13, Scioness

perhaps Math and NSG would like to contemplate the quality of this wagon's tail end

i still believe mylo is town. scioness self-voting and saying that i shouldn't be trusted certainly hurts me emotionally, but i don't think i should let that change anything.

[Scioness Sajj]

cry me a river

[Scioness Sajj]

seriously guys, nothing good will come from keeping me and her in the game.

let's lynch me for a better tomorrow.

[Mathdino]

it's not that it hurts me emotionally
i actually hate it and lowkey find it policy lynchable (the only reason i'm not policying it is that there are more policy-worthy players in this list)

it's that she literally just straight up asked for a hammer from someone, with no reason to think that someone else would be online to get cold feet and unvote

pintu in 714 was different, and he was also working to cause a mislynch that day and fuck his team's associatives before he died

[northsidegal]

it's that she literally just straight up asked for a hammer from someone, with no reason to think that someone else would be online to get cold feet and unvote

that doesn't really change anything for me, nor do i think it's impossible to come from scum.

[Invisibility]

VOTE: Scioness Sajj

[Mathdino]

and there's a scumclaim

nsg i really do not believe you have good reads this game

[Mathdino]

god i just fit the stereotypical "jump off a mislynch after i started it and preemptively blame the people on it" scumstrat

fml

[northsidegal]

good reads plural or are you just saying that i'm wrong on scioness

[Mathdino]

i tried to lynch aa9 who was in your poe pool

you were like nope

i was like gimme someone better

you were like "scioness" and then literally did not vote while i pushed a phantom case

i'm apparently still in your poe pool despite being more pro-town than i generally am as scum (jumping off mislynches is a general scumtell but not a me scumtell)

i'm not totally sure you actually have other scumreads, or care about generating other scumreads
or care about tiered townreads?

you seem to be playing stubborn-nsg more than gamesolve-nsg

[wavemode]

god i just fit the stereotypical "jump off a mislynch after i started it and preemptively blame the people on it" scumstrat

since when is that a scum strat in real life

can you point to somewhere someone did that as scum so i can laugh at them

also, VOTE: unrealseal

[Mathdino]

god i just fit the stereotypical "jump off a mislynch after i started it and preemptively blame the people on it" scumstrat

since when is that a scum strat in real life

can you point to somewhere someone did that as scum so i can laugh at them

also, VOTE: unrealseal

i got nothing off the top of my head
i don't mislynch enough people on D1 to see that kind of strat too often

and invisibility hammered

[Mathdino]

maybe that tell died before 2017

regardless how is unreal scummier to you than invis's naked hammer

[northsidegal]

i'm apparently still in your poe pool despite being more pro-town than i generally am as scum (jumping off mislynches is a general scumtell but not a me scumtell)

what gives you this idea? "apparently" according to what?

i'm not totally sure you actually have other scumreads, or care about generating other scumreads
or care about tiered townreads?

i believe that scioness is scum and she's currently being wagoned. it doesn't make sense to me to be focusing a lot of effort elsewhere in terms of scumreads before a flip.

[Scioness Sajj]

i don't think it was a hammer.

sorry Math, but you should do it

[Mathdino]

here's my "hot take" scum poe (probably shouldn't put much weight into this, just kind of what i'm thinking right now)

Scioness Sajj
Mathdino
wingedcatgirl
Invisibility
ArcAngel9

i guess i'd take wingedcat out of this (for now)

i was just kind of writing off stefan as town so for the sake of just being sure i guess i'd put awoo back in

apart from that i think i'm good

this is your last PoE pool and you haven't updated it since
other than refusing to help me lynch AA9

usually you update it when you change it but you've spent all your time wasting 2 pages walling scioness

and usually you DO have other scumreads ffs

and yet you ask me to go through the effort of defending you harder for the situation in which scioness flips town?
rather than actually helping the game by giving more reads? or a read on me?

[Invisibility]

that was L-1

[wavemode]

maybe that tell died before 2017

regardless how is unreal scummier to you than invis's naked hammer

invis's naked hammer is sort of the towniest thing he's done this game

besides that, it wasn't a hammer and we definitely should still be looking to form a new wagon

[Mathdino]

upon reconsideration, i would be willing to lynch awoo and wingedcatgirl as well

i'm still not sold on unrealseal

[northsidegal]

this is your last PoE pool and you haven't updated it since
other than refusing to help me lynch AA9

usually you update it when you change it but you've spent all your time wasting 2 pages walling scioness

and usually you DO have other scumreads ffs

and yet you ask me to go through the effort of defending you harder for the situation in which scioness flips town?
rather than actually helping the game by giving more reads? or a read on me?

i wouldn't call my posts regarding scioness a waste of time considering that they seem to have convinced at least some people.

i do have other scumreads. i think invisibility, arcangel, maybe unrealseal, maybe wcg and maaybe awoo could be scum.

i believe the best way i can help the game right now is by lynching scioness.

[wavemode]

well we have three in favor of invisibility, are there any more

[Scioness Sajj]

UNVOTE:

[Mathdino]

scioness if i truly thought nsg was scum on your townflip, i would be lynching you in order to one-two BoP her
i've done that before, only unsuccessfully because i got NK'd before i had the chance to BoP someone

i don't think that though
there's a difference between "NSG with super solid reads" and "NSG on a bad tunnel" and i'm starting to think it's the latter

[mutantdevle]

This isn't a reaction test

I didn't like your catchup and you're the only wagon I genuinely believe is all town

Gimme a lynchpool

Edit : see that doesn't help your case lol

Lol it's easy to call a 'wagon' all town when the only people on it are yourself and 1 other person.

You haven't really answered my question in this post but I guess it implies that you just blatantly want me dead instead of actually trying to progress a read on me?