SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

[the worst]

this doesn't actually sound too bad

Maria is a lot more towny than Fire by play IMO but his role sounds like a thing.

[Taly]

TW

, do you think

Espe/Dunn

are both town? Especially in light of 1245?

[the worst]

kinda weird spot but currently kinda leaning yes

I read Espe as town before Dunn d1 but Dunn's play today has also been good. we also probably have a clear on Espe.

at the same time I'm not sure how to feel about the protect thing because I really wouldn't have expected Espe as a NK target last night :s

[TehBrawlGuy]

Dunn, given your vote, I'm assuming you believe Maria over Fire, why?

For the reasons I gave earlier as to why Fire's claim was scummy

I unvoted him after he changes his claim

The NK didn't happen last night.

I protected Espeonage from night kills

???

I thought he claimed you vanillized him?

[Errantparabola]

Prodding Nahdia and Punreader.

Still looking for a Srceen replacement.

Votecount 2.7

Fire Assassin

(3): Espeonage, MariaR/Chara

Dunnstral

(1): Fire Assassin

Not Voting

(11): Punreader, Nahdia, Srceenplay, Vaxkiller, Shoshin, Taly, PenguinPower, Dunnstral, DeasVail, TehBrawlGuy, the worst

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to achieve a majority.
Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-04 23:06:00)

[Dunnstral]

???

I thought he claimed you vanillized him?

I don't think I said that

[the worst]

The balancing tool is that either me or dunn becomes vanilla. It doesn't need another one.

Also, EP flavour, in your best paraphrasing, and go.

Whoever won the bet got to choose to vig, protect, or vanillaise the other.

he said it was possible but has elaborated since

[Taly]

TW

, who are the people you'd think the N1 NK target would be? Assuming that it wasn't successful?

Anyone else can answer this question, too.

[the worst]

basically probably maybe somewhere in
1. TehBrawlGuy
2. Taly
3. Punreader
4. MariaR
11. Shoshin
14. Chara

doesn't really make sense for scum to shoot Espe N1 here given the slapfight with Fire d1

[the worst]

remove Shoshin from that list, blonde moment

[Taly]

The balancing tool is that either me or dunn becomes vanilla. It doesn't need another one.

Also, EP flavour, in your best paraphrasing, and go.

Whoever won the bet got to choose to vig, protect, or vanillaise the other.

he said it was possible but has elaborated since

Is it possible

Dunn

used up his protection then?

[the worst]

The NK didn't happen last night.

I protected Espeonage from night kills

not sure if 1shot / doc / full BP situation

[Taly]

Actually,

Dunn

wouldn't have been able to vig/protect/vanillize anyone but

Espe

? If I'm reading this correctly?

The balancing tool is that either me or dunn becomes vanilla. It doesn't need another one.

Also, EP flavour, in your best paraphrasing, and go.

Whoever won the bet got to choose to vig, protect, or vanillaise the other.

he said it was possible but has elaborated since

Did this ability HAVE to be used N1?

@Dunn/Espe

[Dunnstral]

Yes

[Dunnstral]

I could only target espe and it had to be used night 1

[Taly]

OK, I'm good with clearing

Dunn/Espe

right now, there's way too much role/claim/result evidence and play evidence that make it very difficult for either of them to be coming from a scum POV.

Townbloc

Taly
the worst
Chara
MariaR
Espeonage
Dunnstral
Vaxkiller
TehBrawlGuy

I want to place

Fire

in here, but it seems tentative at the moment.

[Espeonage]

From 1224: "Espe, we learned that Fire overlooked the Nico ranking, do you believe his claim is scum-motivated, or a town mistake?"

I think it was a fake claim, and he threw something in with voting to make it sound believable and fucked it up completely.

[Espeonage]

Dunn, given your vote, I'm assuming you believe Maria over Fire, why?

For the reasons I gave earlier as to why Fire's claim was scummy

I unvoted him after he changes his claim

The NK didn't happen last night.

I protected Espeonage from night kills

???

I thought he claimed you vanillized him?

This is my bad.

Basically my only ability is from the bet. Having lost the bet I have no power. I would presume there might be something with role cop or something maybe. Or the vanillaise option is just a red herring.

So I am effectively now vanilla town, but yes Dunn protected me, but EP sent through a thing to me saying I am only protected night 2. So the missing kill is not because I was shot at, unless there was another protection.

I would assume that there is a doc or something with a clear at the moment if Pun isn't just bluffing and is actually scum.

[Espeonage]

Just for clarity's sake.

EP sent through a correction. The action gets used night 1, but comes in to effect night 2.

So if Dunn had shot me I would be dying tomorrow night. And I am protected from kills tonight.

[TehBrawlGuy]

ok fuck all of this role shit let's lynch the obvscum

VOTE: pp

[the worst]

how is PP obvscum

[TehBrawlGuy]

I've talked about all of it already, but it's a combination of him being against pseudolynch and his interactions with [Taly] early, and then later, his claim and the circumstances surrounding his claim.

He's probably my top scumread ATM. I'm still debating who exactly I want to push for the day, but regardless, I can't really see any situation where I'm not at least OK with PP swinging today.

I can go pull pull more specific thins I said on D1 but yeah.

[Espeonage]

I remember disagreeing with that read but this whole thing today has kinda wiped my brain of a lot of day 1.

[PenguinPower]

PP, what is difficult for you to digest about this entire situation?

I didn't say it was difficult (though interestingly enough you did in this very post) to digest. I said my brain hurt too much to process. Much like it does tonight. I will need to read through without a glass of wine in hand

I can go pull pull more specific thins I said on D1 but yeah.

If you're basing your read on me from D1, you need to reassess (unless it's the claim alone).

[Dunnstral]

If you're basing your read on me from D1, you need to reassess (unless it's the claim alone).

Why?