Lynch the Wolves (Game Over)

[MathBlade]

the guilty's real: I couldn't get as much information on other slots if I was open about it so I approached it how I did.
that said you're still talking about someone with a record of successfully claiming guilties on scum, so 'oh the guilty is fake' when I'm taking it this seriously shouldn't even be in question.

Why are you posting my self portrait?

[MathBlade]

Back to serious matters, what are your scumreads?

[RadiantCowbells]

final thing I want to say, I went back to my role pm because I was seriously considering posting it and my role isn't tracker, it's human detective.

[RadiantCowbells]

(functionality is exactly as I've described but the name is different.)

[MathBlade]

Oh yay...Now you’re lying yet again.

Oh wait I am a daycop thst says Luna is scum.
Oh wait I tracked Math to the kill.
Oh wait no I am actually a detective that has a guilty on Math killing someone
Oh wait I am just scum.

^RC’s posting TLDR didn’t read

[RadiantCowbells]

math just don't talk to me.

[RadiantCowbells]

what's the actual name of the role given?

Spoiler: Theta regarding Luna

hey look the game actually started

i could get behind a lynch on luna
VOTE: luna nova

someone please explain the hebichan wagon

completely unexplained vote on Luna, where her vote stays literally the entire day until she decides to unvote when

ugh
UNVOTE:

i do think it is nai for radiant to do a fakeclaim like that
but it does make me doubt that luna is scum

as for who else might be scum i have no clue
although since definition is a hydra who somehow has not posted in a while even with

heads then i think that might actually be a good place to put my vote
VOTE: definition

random 'oh I suddently doubt that luna is scum because... RC fakeclaimed a guilty on her'

alright i think i might actually be able to read you so UNVOTE:

i do not agree with some of the reasoning for luna being scum
the imo thing for one is explained by the fact that luna is a hydra
as in that heads opinion

this explanation also makes literally no sense: it's not one head's opinion whether they're scum or not,

you know i just realized definition has been in one other game and it was a newbie

so
yeah not a hydra

and for actual content
the wagons on both tgp and luna are rather odd in how they developed

though the fact that there was a fake guilty on luna does explain part of that
also i think creature is literally just voting the counterwagon because it is the counterwagon

it is somewhat odd that even with 2 weeks left in the game we are kind of at the 2-wagon stage
i am a little worried that town just kind of failed to get any cohesion or agreement on anything and the fake guilty in the middle of that probably will not be something we could easily recover from

so
honestly we might as well end the day so at least we will have some sort of semblance of what is going on tomorrow
i do want to give ank a few days to read the game though
so i will give

intent to hammer

p-edit
well nevermind that then

gives intent on someone that they're not scumreading because 'oh we will deal with things tomorrow'
also the fuck did the fake guilty do that was anti town besides give reactions, I didn't like swing it through, feel like it's scum salty that their partner got caught for a 'bad reason'

with 18 people alive it was 9 to lynch
yuurei was the hammering vote

oh right, now that i thought about it, this could be some hammer gambit. sorry for ruining Theta.

however, do people fall for that trick though?

on evens its more likely to work since people confuse half to lynch and majority to lynch
ah well

luna is at l-1
do not hammer without giving intent and letting luna claim

and this feels like they knew that Luna had something to claim.

for their part Luna only brings up the theta slot once

Looking at the Golden Iso I don't see anything that points to them being scum. The anger feels genuine and the few votes they do have in the game I agree with. I think both of the top wagons are on town. If we're looking for a low poster lynch, why not Thea who is not doing anything the help the game state? The only vote they have in the game is on us (and I admit that is why I iso'd them) for the simple reason of us being an anon hydra; the rest of the posts are filler.

I'd like the gold voters to say why they would vote gold and not thea.

~Diana

Absolutely empty townread of golden + a random suggestion that they follow up on Theta whom they neither vote nor ever follow up on

tl;dr
Theta randomly votes Luna with no explanation, keeps the vote there until a wagon appears justifying the vote switch because my fake guilty makes them town, and then intents to hammer someone that they're supposedly townread with the explanation that town is just doing so bad because of the fake guilty

Luna only brings them up once in the game to say hey you should be pushing Theta over TGP but never actually follows up on it

We're lynching Luna, if they flip scum we are lynching Theta tomorrow 100% of the time.

Finally, I don't think that a role called town neighbourizer exists in this setup for whatever reason.

relevant.

[mastina]

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[mastina]

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[Gamma Emerald]

What did I just walk into
RC could you explain wtf is going on here?
Actually this feels vaguely familiar

[Gamma Emerald]

Katsuki is one of the three, idk the others.

"The Wall" is a trademark for Gork. That I know.

Also, maybe Luna Fox? Haven’t seen her around tho so -_-

[Gamma Emerald]

Amazing idea: policy lynch the 3 headed hydra so we don't have to worry about who the heads are anymore

I miss the spam meta when I could have expected at least 5 pages by now. this is dull and tiresome.

Oh so Postie didn’t even come up with that /s

[Gamma Emerald]

What the f
Didn’t mean to quote the first thing

[Gamma Emerald]

i imagine TGP was joking?

VOTE: mathblade

Let’s assume for a moment TGP was joking.

What benefit is there to joking the moderator lied to us outright when people are actively alt hunting? (a practice I despise and will not join) the hydra.

It is a way to comment without commenting and at the same time potential get people to slip if they have a way to get moderator notifications or not.

TGP from prior experience with them is not a joke or a troll user.

So I don’t think that was intended to be a joke.

It sounds like you got something out of that readwise on TGP, what was it?

[MathBlade]

At that point in time I believed TGP was scum.

Can you like not go through almost 100 pages and quote everything?

I am hungry to lynch RC scum and I hope you are hungry for a scum flip.

[mastina]

mastina

if a hypothetical neighborhood gets to vote on an targeted action that is made during the night without having to specify who performs the action then what would happen in the following two scenarios
- if a tracker or equivalent role targets a member of the neighborhood
- if a watcher or equivalent role targets the player that the neighborhood targeted

<<< In the case of a group-based actions--actions that do not require a specific person to submit/perform--there are two possible methods of resolution:
Everyone in the group is considered visiting the target,
Or Nobody in the group is considered visiting the target.

This resolution would apply for all actions that could interact with the group-based action, be it redirection, roleblocking, tracking, watching, etc.

To then answer your specific scenarios: If the action is resolved as everyone visiting, then a tracker tracking a member of the group would see a visit; a watcher targeting the group's target would see every member of the group visit.
If the action is resolved as nobody visiting, then a tracker tracking a member of the group would not see a visit; a watcher targeting the group's target would not see any member of the group visit (for that action at least).

Any player with a group-based action would have a method of awareness to know whether their action is resolved as everyone visiting or nobody visiting. >>>

[mastina]

Flavor?

Flavor will be placed here if mastina has the capacity to give it. No promises!

Votecount 2-12 (52) Simple

MathBlade - 4 (RadiantCowbells, CheekyTeeky, Nosferatu, NicoRobin)

RadiantCowbells - 2 (MathBlade, Vecna)

Theta Alpine - 1 (projectmatt)
Gamma Emerald - 1 (Keychain)
NicoRobin - 1 (Gamma Emerald)
CheekyTeeky - 1 (ArcAngel9)
Keychain - 1 (HeWhoSwims)

Not Voting - 4 (Creature, Ankamius, hebichan, Theta Alpine)

Mod Notes

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• mastina will generate a more advanced votecount if she has the capacity to give it. No promises!

[Nosferatu]

Ok I don't think that anyone is arguing that math's neighborhood killed someone.

[mastina]

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[MathBlade]

Ok I don't think that anyone is arguing that math's neighborhood killed someone.

Because we haven’t.

[MathBlade]

I tracked Mathblade to the kill yesterday

Officially a 1v1 now so stop shit voting elsewhere

This is SO not a thing. Like ever. Scum just want control of the hood so they are trying to push me out.

RC is 100% lying about tracking me to the kill. I've crumbed multiple times that I don't have any powers outside of the hood ones. Just go look for IceCream meaning vanilla. I am sick and goddamn tired of RC's ego every time I fucking play with him.


I also know I wasn't redirected because of the last line in the hood before it was locked for the day that said we recruited {{Player added to the hood.}}

This means 1 of 2 things is happening

1) RC is scum lying his ass off again. He already lied once and said he had a guilty on Luna who flipped town. Are you REALLY gonna let him do that AGAIN?
2) RC is town and had something manipulate the check.


Furthermore, I DO NOT act as a single unit. It's a HOOD based action. He CAN'T have tracked me alone. He'd know who all the hood buddies are and would have seen me target someone alive.


VOTE: Radiant Cowbells

Fool me once shame on you.

Fake claim twice you fucking die.

Again...This is why RC is scum.

I said it once I will say it again.

We recruited.

This means if RC tracked me he would see me visit the player that was recruited.
(See post from Mastina for clarification)
I invite everyone in my hood to ask the same question.

If Math had a killing action separate from the hood and used it last night and we recruited (insert player recruited here) how would that show up to a tracker?

You’d get two fucking names.

Then RC claims no wait I am a detective.

Just stawp. It’s exhausting.

[MathBlade]

I am clearly not scum but anyone in that hood can ask that question and see that for themselves. RC is a wolf.

[Theta Alpine]

there is a faint possibility that action redirection exists
you had claimed already day 1 math so a scum bus driver switching you and whoever was responsible for the kill would have been a good move

having said that i am not really sure if the recruits and redirection roles would have actually been put into the same game
and i did give radiant a chance to back out so VOTE: radiant cowbells

also in a scum math situation why would he have claimed a power role that can night kill and then do the night kill for scum

[RadiantCowbells]

After I flip you lynch Mathblade tomorrow.

VOTE: RC

Bye

[RadiantCowbells]

Nah fuck that what am I doing

VOTE: mb

Too annoyed rn.