Product Placement Mafia (Game over!)

[PenguinPower]

That's slightly disturbing.

Maybe a bit more than slightly.

[PenguinPower]

fuck pepsi only mati

Not sure this is a wise statement to make.

All hail Pepsi.

[PenguinPower]

btw I'm curious what happens if the market leader person whatever dies, does the ability to post votecounts transfer or is it lost

@Untrod Tripod what happens to the market-chosen power if the holder of it dies?

It's a good idea to fully read the rules.

[PenguinPower]

How do we all feel about Crystal Pepsi?

[PenguinPower]

I can't even....

Comparing Pepsi to some gross confectionery?

[PenguinPower]

Penguin. It's been a while since I played with you. Remind me how to read you?

I will be using a series of word to convey my thoughts and opinions. If you read these words in the order I write them (from left to right, unless I starting writing in Japanese), you should be able to do a reasonable job of reading me.

I may also do a few rainbow reads depending on my mood.

[PenguinPower]

What if I'm illiterate?

Do you prefer Coke or Pepsi?

[PenguinPower]

Sprite is a Coke product. So, it doesn't matter if you're illiterate.

Your opinion is invalid.

[PenguinPower]

Also, 7-Up is far superior to Sprite.

[PenguinPower]

And Mountain Dew is far superior to Mellow Yellow.

[PenguinPower]

Neither are a Pepsi product, and so are innately inferior.

Dr. Pepper is better than Mr. Pibb though. I mean, on the prefix alone that is an objective fact.

[PenguinPower]

That's amazing.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: brassherald

Our sponsor is making me do it.

[PenguinPower]

Tell the truth?

p-edit

Pepsi is superior to Coke in all ways.

[PenguinPower]

Subscribe: Firebringer

Parent company holds the rights to 7UP in the US tying it to PepsiCo, so you are better than brassherald.

Congratulations.

[PenguinPower]

Good to see an early town meta playing Gamma.

How is this early town meta playing Gamma.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Cheeky

[PenguinPower]

Sprite is a Coke product. So, it doesn't matter if you're illiterate.

Your opinion is invalid.

I like Canada Dry, what now

Parent company holds the rights to 7UP in the US tying it to PepsiCo, so you are better than brassherald.

Congratulations.

EBWOP because I'm not allowed use that tasty tasty edit button.

[PenguinPower]

Are you guys just PLing me for being a VI or do you care to add reasons?

I like wagons. You refused to join mine on brass and used a yucky FoS instead, so I'm joining yours. You have like 3 or 4 votes...why care so much?

[PenguinPower]

Right now I’m leaning to giving it to penguin, cause u suck

<3

[PenguinPower]

Gamma is actually pretty easy to read, imo.

He hyperposts as town, going from beginning to end posting his thoughts as he progresses from the beginning to the most recent, to the point where he sometimes asks questions that have already been answered.

As scum, he does not do this, and is much more guarded, leading to fewer posts and most of his posts being very reactive to whatever is said about him.

I'm not really seeing that....could you point it out in his three game relevant posts?

[PenguinPower]

Are you guys just PLing me for being a VI or do you care to add reasons?

I like wagons. You refused to join mine on brass and used a yucky FoS instead, so I'm joining yours. You have like 3 or 4 votes...why care so much?

Because I can't assess votes I don't get reasons for. Why are you shading so much?

Shading so much? Wut?

Ok Cheeky is scum.

[PenguinPower]

brass...throw a Cheeky vote down.

[PenguinPower]

Oh..that worked. Cool.

Let's try again. T...throw down a Cheeky vote, not a NSG vote.

[PenguinPower]

What if I told u.

I stole rc tell book for cheekytreeky and she Town told?

I would say...let's talk about this in a little bit. And...throw down a Cheeky vote, since that seems to be working right now.

[PenguinPower]

Aww...bad.

[PenguinPower]

Wut? How does calling you out make me scum?

I asked a legitimate question ("why care so much") given that your reaction to a few (naked) votes on you was worse than the majority of newbies in my queue, and was not shading you. Your hyperbolic response ("why are you shading

so

much") comes across to me as someone who has a reason to feel defensive because even if you thought my question was intended to shade you, it was not even close to strongly doing so.

[PenguinPower]

First response: Really addressing it at all is bad. I don't know many people who call their wagon a policy lynch during early day phase. Explain more of this discrediting agenda you feel is building in this game.

Second response: I've already said that it was a genuine question, so not sure what you're trying to get at here. We are obviously going to disagree on this point. Note: you did provide an answer to my "disingenuous" question. Of course my reasoning is weak...we're on page 8 (but thanks for the "player of my status" bit...I love my ego being stroked). It would have made sense for anyone to not react to the first few votes on their wagon...though I understand your point to further the game status.

Third response: Your statement was hyperbolic (e.g. "so much"). Even if it was intended as shade, it would be light shade and not "so much shade."

I don't think I'm going to get what I intended to get out of this interaction which is disappointing.

Fire...tell me what the stolen book says.

[PenguinPower]

Cheeky - why are you voting Fire?

Like...I don't believe that you've never played a game on this site where there were lots of naked votes early D1...hell...lots of naked votes the entire game.

[PenguinPower]

Only in Team Mafia though. As you are all well aware, I am the great Team Mafia player in all of history.

How'd it go this year?

[PenguinPower]

Pls don't. Just...pls.

[PenguinPower]

FLASHBACKS

[PenguinPower]

Curiosity is healthy...or it killed the cat.

Moving on.

[PenguinPower]

Once upon a time, a penguin was excluded from a team event due to the evil T-fairy's jealously of the penguin's power. The evil T-fairy not only excluded the penguin from the team event due to his jealously; he also made the penguin clean up the waste that was generated by the participants of the team event.

Soon, the team event was over. The penguin was stronger for his work...and had designed a master plan to rid the world of the T-fairy forever.

G'night, fire. I'll tell you the next chapter tomorrow night.

[PenguinPower]

Shamelessly prodging. Crazy busy weekend...back in the morning.

[PenguinPower]

Go away bonehead.

I mean...the irony is stark. Why is he a bonehead?

[PenguinPower]

FB when are you going to do something towny?

What is the purpose of this question?

[PenguinPower]

What is going on here....wrong quote.

[PenguinPower]

O_o

Naked votes are fine. Just not on me I make them myself but never do so without reason (in my head) or expecting to get asked to share my reason.

Is your reason T is a bonehead?

[PenguinPower]

Why the Pine naked vote then?

And, yes, I am trying to do something. My absence over the weekend stifled it, I think, but the fact that the game state hasn't move much (beyond shitposting) means I might still get it. So, T-Bone naked vote explained. Now, Pine-vote.

Also, I have no reason to move my vote at the moment. I'm not waiting on a reason to back it up...I'm waiting on a reason to move it.

[PenguinPower]

tfw you no longer feel like a shitposter

[PenguinPower]

Why the Pine naked vote then?

And, yes, I am trying to do something. My absence over the weekend stifled it, I think, but the fact that the game state hasn't move much (beyond shitposting) means I might still get it. So, T-Bone naked vote explained. Now, Pine-vote.

Also, I have no reason to move my vote at the moment. I'm not waiting on a reason to back it up...I'm waiting on a reason to move it.

Why are you not interested in the Vax naked vote?

Here's what I've done:

Vax vote > Tbone vote > Pine vote.

Penguin you're not this dumb I think you can work out what I'm doing. Pine vote was already explained a couple of posts ago when I was trying to get Reck to join me.

I'm caught up on the past 2 pages...give me a minute. I tend to read backward when I catch up. I skimmed through, but it seemed mostly shitposting so I did not read through yet.

Also, I agree. I'm not dumb.

[PenguinPower]

With penguin I just feel like his pushes on me are beyond over-simplistic and somewhat illogical. I don't feel like he would SR me here knowing my value from other games. It feels like he's tunneling me like newb scum to look busy/give him an excuse not to assess others.

Your value from other games? I've played one game with you in which you took me from locktown to lockscum when I was town. I'm not sure what your value is.

I was trying to use the Dino tell to get a hard town read on you, but that's not working...you aren't imploding, you're just scum reading anyone who votes you.

Why do you think I'm not assessing others?

[PenguinPower]

List of towns:

xRECKONERx - maybe?
mutantdevle
Pine
hyung - maybe?
CheekyTeeky
ArcAngel9
northsidegal

Is this serious, or another shitposting list?

[PenguinPower]

I don't really like you.

Explain Arc with her 4 super-towny posts?

[PenguinPower]

I don't really like you.

Ouch, that hurts because I like penguins

You can redeem yourself. Favorite type of penguin. Go.

[PenguinPower]

Besides cheeky and nsg
And maybe hyung


That town list is bad

Help me understand town!cheeky.

[PenguinPower]

Emperor penguin chicks and chinstrap penguin chicks.

So, I know this seems completely unrelated to the game (and I don't like that you've shitposted almost the entire game) but, this will actually help me...least favorite penguin.

[PenguinPower]

least favorite penguin.

BLASPHAMY!!!

You can't hate on the penguins...

So wrong. I still don't like you.

[PenguinPower]

Hi Cheeky.

[PenguinPower]

Your name is wrong if you don't empower ALL penguins.

Macaroni...that's all I'm saying.

They're assholes

[PenguinPower]

PP get off me and scum hunt so I can PoE other slots.

Hit me with your response to 599.

[PenguinPower]

Yawn. Because you're not seriously engaging other slots, can you please point out where you have done this?

Nope. Can you please point out slots I should be engaging? I came back to the game yesterday after my absence for irl this weekend.

Also, I have a legit psychosomatic response to the word "yawn" so, please don't do that.

[PenguinPower]

With penguin I just feel like his pushes on me are beyond over-simplistic and somewhat illogical. I don't feel like he would SR me here knowing my value from other games. It feels like he's tunneling me like newb scum to look busy/give him an excuse not to assess others.

Your value from other games? I've played one game with you in which you took me from locktown to lockscum when I was town. I'm not sure what your value is.

I was trying to use the Dino tell to get a hard town read on you, but that's not working...you aren't imploding, you're just scum reading anyone who votes you.

Why do you think I'm not assessing others?

Yawn. Because you're not seriously engaging other slots, can you please point out where you have done this?

Also fun to note you did not respond to any other points...

[PenguinPower]

YAWN.

I mean, absent this game, this is a pretty asshole thing to do.

[PenguinPower]

If you're going to exploit a mental issue with me, I'm out. Go on. Are you going to continue with it?

[PenguinPower]

Also, I have a legit psychosomatic response to the word "yawn" so, please don't do that.

YAWN.

[PenguinPower]

that was shitty.

[PenguinPower]

I'm taking a break for tonight.

[PenguinPower]

Ok well looks like the mod missed my request to be replaced. Can I still choose to stay?

I hope you do. Normally mods have a "if I don't find a replacement before" rule, so ask UT.

[PenguinPower]

I request official votecount

I mean, we have a lot left for today, but why do you keep doing this on your own?

[PenguinPower]

@mod: v/la through Sunday

[PenguinPower]

UNVOTE:

[PenguinPower]

I'm back. Looks like ~10 page catch-up, so give me until noonish tomorrow (CT).

[PenguinPower]

Oh..Hey Ali!

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Arc

I'm tired, and don't really feel like reading through tonight.

p-edit

You can't vote to force replace a slot.

[PenguinPower]

What are you?
A rule lawyer?!

Besides that ur a list mod

I'm just a player in the game. I should have said, "I don't think you can vote to force replace someone."

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Arc

I'm tired, and don't really feel like reading through tonight.

p-edit

You can't vote to force replace a slot.

PP wolfy.

Ok. Slot hasn't made a vote and has ~5 posts. The game state hasn't changed in the past ~6 days (even with a deadline extension). Why hasn't scum made sure this is lynched?

There has been no viable counterwagon that I have seen, so worst case, this is lurktown that will never replace. Best case, scum. I hate D1 (which I'm pretty sure you know) so I'm ready to move on.

[PenguinPower]

I have 400 posts and a slack off day tomorrow, so I'll try. Feel free to point at anything salient. I'm going to wager it won't change much though, since it doesn't seem to have changed much overall.

[PenguinPower]

The game state hasn't changed in the past ~6 days (even with a deadline extension). Why hasn't scum made sure this is lynched?

How do you know the game state hasn't changed unless you're keeping up? Give some reads plz.

Uh...vote count.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: vecna

[PenguinPower]

Oh, yay! Mollie.

This should be fun.

Farm day field trip tomorrow; but, outside that, should be much more active now.

[PenguinPower]

Brian I legit can't tell if you're talking about me or gamma emerald

I think Vecnas push on arc at the end of the day makes her (now pirate mollie) very likely town and also I think more town than lld looks from Vecnas push on her but I'm likely a bit biased towards thinking lld is still sun b/c of d1 stuff

I think my lynchpool atm is something like titus/alisae/penguin maybe northside maybe reck.

VOTE: Titus

You think Ali is scum? Bad.

[PenguinPower]

If you want to tell me why alisae is town I'd like to hear it tho.

I mean...Ali is coming across like 1-shot Ali to me. That was my most recent game with em, and my preceding games hold no relevance given the gap in time and change in eir play.

So, yeah, mostly recent meta and I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

[PenguinPower]

hey guess who hasn't done much yet today
VOTE: Penguin

Guess who announced he wouldn't be doing much today!

Farm day field trip tomorrow; but, outside that, should be much more active now.

Oh yeah. Me.

It sucked, btw.

[PenguinPower]

Ok..tried reading everything and only got through page 114. I'll push through in the morning.

NSG...you had me as a townread for all of D1 iirc...why?

[PenguinPower]

Sorry. Still waiting for NSG to answer my question.

[PenguinPower]

Sorry. I've been in the hospital for the better part of last week and the weekend.

Wasn't even aware D3 started since the night was so long. I'll catch up on D3 at some point today.

[PenguinPower]

Fortunately, it was not for me. Unfortunately, it was for someone close to me.

@NSG

: I still would like an answer about why you townread me D1. Also, what - beyond my activity level - leads you to believe I'm scum.

[PenguinPower]

hyung is being replaced. That happened.

[PenguinPower]

Seems accurate.

[PenguinPower]

I did catch up, and I have thoughts. I really want NSG to answer my questions first as that's going to help me align everything.

[PenguinPower]

Oh, sorry. Activity and lack of snark.

Anything else?

p-edit

That's directed at NSG.

[PenguinPower]

I don't think you've actually been sorting people. I don't get the feeling that you actually care about who's town or who's scum, or have genuine convictions Nice job completely understating all of my reasoning, though.

So what made such a massive difference in the reasons that i was originally townreading you that you've been talking about?

I don't disagree...I haven't done much D2 or yet today. But, that's activity based.

I didn't understate your reasoning...it wasn't apparent reading through your ISO. I saw comments about my activity and snark which is why I called it out.

What I really don't like right now is that you "honestly can't remember why [you] were townreading" me. Because I haven't actually been very active since you did, so I'm trying to suss why you've made this change (outside of me being an easy push)...and you aren't really explaining it.

[PenguinPower]

It's not just activity based. You were here yesterday and yet refrained from saying anything until i answered the one question. that's an opportunity to do something that you basically passed up - nothing was forcing you to only discuss me.

Pretty sure you were a hot topic yesterday and, much like today, I thought/think sorting you was/is going to help me align the rest of my reads. Still don't see why you ignored it.

don't you think it actually makes more sense that i'd forget the reasons for a read given inactivity?

No, but I think that the inactivity gives you a good screen for saying that.

if, on the other hand, someone hasn't really posted at all, when the time comes that you sit down to organize your thoughts and perhaps reconsider stale reads (as i did at the start of today), you won't have any reasons to townread someone who hasn't been active. that's what happened with you, except that went i re-looked over your ISO, i didn't just lack reasons to townread you, i realized that it made more sense to be scumreading you.

Talk to me about what you saw in my D1 ISO that changed your opinion.

VOTE: no lynch

Honestly just go to night, it’s anti town for us to sit around bickering.

Bad. We're not no lynching.

you know what it is? i think it's not enough votecounts. there's something psychological about seeing a votecount that gets you motivated to play the game, i feel.

I agree with this. We need more frequent votecounts. It's been hard seeing where everyone was at specific points in the game.

[PenguinPower]

@mod: I request an official vote count

[PenguinPower]

Will still vote either of penguin and north and am on the biggest wagon atm

If penguin and lld can vote someone before a week passes maybe we can make real wagons happen

I'll vote as soon as the official VC comes in.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: NSG

[PenguinPower]

I'll also comprise on penguin! If NSG can be lynched tomorrow.

Reck is town.

[PenguinPower]

^
pagetop ++

[PenguinPower]

PP why is Reck town?

Mollie and Reck are both town because their back and forth is the same exact crap they did in in one-shot before mollie copped him. I don't see how or why scum Reck claims the role he claimed either.

Why is Reck scum?

p-edit

I don't care about any of that crap.

p-p-edit

Stop it.

[PenguinPower]

Thanks, UT. Best of luck, and see you in a few months.

LLD did an amazing job bringing in a scum win given me and hyung, especially. I don't consider this a win for me in the least.

I probably should not play Large's anymore.

[PenguinPower]

the fuck

LLD delay-viged Alisae N7 and killed mollie N8. Game over.

No lynch is not always in the best interest of town.

[PenguinPower]

i blame UT more than anyone.

I think I blame UT a lot more than you do.

Daily in fact.

[PenguinPower]

That's something I could commit to.

[PenguinPower]

You know what sucks

I still think I would have won this game if it was active.

I still think I would have won this game if other people cared.

But it's so easy for people outside the game to say "oh I knew the answers", especially after the game is done.

And it's so easy for people inside the game to say "oh I didn't care enough" and then make this game less of an accomplishment.

Like... because I never drank a Pumpkin Latte, the survivor was a town role. So I just killed and endgamed 11 straight townies as the only remaining scum alive.

And all that work and effort and skill in navigating is going to be forgotten and was for nothing because who cares the game was bad right

Nope. You get at least 3/4 portions of the scum win. I spent the entire game saying that we wouldn't win it. Don't let anyone take it away. It was amazing to watch.