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Ok, Guess I should at least try to do some votecount shit. Ill try to catch up to the game in the next few days. For now ill just help you along to lynch something.
Vecna Votecount 1.3 - Up to date, to the best of my ability, I do not feel liable for any errors.
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Didnt read everything yet
Firebringer is weirding me out, with his whole sudden defense of Cheecky. Im a sucker for the meta-argument but this one seems really thin and weird. How do people manipulate stuff in this setting and so early? Why were those responses to getting near-hammered not manipulative in nature?
Pine is giving me some flashbacks to civ mafia, just packaged different. Id jump on that bandwagon anytime.
While reading up, nothing that penguin did left any impression, which is probably bad.
MutantDevle could be scum
Vax could be scum
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That certainly was my first impression yes, since your tone and irritation levels are on overkill.......However, there's something also fundamentally different in how you approach the game and interact with people. Youre not trying to shy away from critical evaluation to the same extent, and instead of dismissing people their crap as crap, youre actually appear to be trying to read into it, instead of just flatly dismissing it.In post 858, Gamma Emerald wrote:well based on past knowledge of how you've read me I'd guess scum
The fact you'd think id scumread you here for it, makes me think youre not completely aware of that distinction, making me think its unlikely to be faked to appear different.
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In post 864, Vecna wrote:Vecna Votecount 1.4
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im not really feeling this game yet. too many people feeling too easily towny. Gamma (both of em), brian and cheeky all seem obv town to me at this point. Boneguy also seems legit.
I expect theres a scum in fire and pine. Not sure if both would try this overbearing gimmick where they simultaneously buddy cheeky, but theres something fishy going on there. Pines response when i made the throwaway statement that he wouldn't make such a comment about teammates also struck me as odd. (and the sort of pridefull statements scum often make when they did in fact did said thing).
I want my penguin to come in here and talk some sense to me.
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I know Ali, i was just asking for the making of votecounts since the mod given ones are gonna be decreasing over time.In post 1087, Alisae wrote:Vecna the way you should do votecounts if you just need to move your vote around is go something like
T-Bone (1): Vecna
Not Voting: Everyone else
It gets the point across of who you want your vote to be swapped to
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Im guessing tbone is the type of player that is able to easily fabricate long coherent posts as scum? So far ive been under the impression he seems pretty town.In post 1095, Alisae wrote:Can people talk to me about their T—bone read please ty <3- Vecna
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Not really much thought about them, just initial impressions that Mutant's trolling felt somewhat forced, and that Vax just felt scummy. The few posts that followed from mutant made me question the initial impression somewhat though.In post 1181, Brian Skies wrote:I meant to ask you about these but don't think I ever did. Could you elaborate on these reads for me?
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Ugh I hate doing this VC shit lol. All these mini-wagons suck. Why cant I have a firebringer or Pine wagon just magically appear
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Firebringer - 2 (CheekyTeeky, Vecna)
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ok so my trip to africa is starting today, so ill be restricted to phoneposting. Gamma Emerald is hired, starting imediately, as my vote counting assistant. Since NSG seems to be doing a devent job as well, starting now, hes my vote counting assistant-deputy.
voteparking on arc due to popular request. Reck and mutant seem to be panicking slightly, but it doesnt feel particulalrly scummy to me. Still pretty underwhelmed by all recent devellopments.
Still completely happy to wagon fire or pine.
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apparently we have 8 days and a bit again untill deadline. hurray- Vecna
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which he updates roughly every half official votecountIn post 1567, xRECKONERx wrote:also i was bitching to UT about how lazy he is this game and how he excused his laziness with a "mechanic" forcing players to do VCs and he said he has a PT where he's actually doing updates so- Vecna
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this really reads like frustrated scum because their strongest role got randomed to a lurker that is getting lucky-lynched.In post 1632, Pine wrote:In post 1626, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:what the fuck is this ISO
Okay, this got me to actually read the AA9 ISO.In post 1627, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:why hasn't this player been replaced
The AA9 wagon is a really super obviously transparent scum-driven counterwagon. Not sure if against Reck or Mutant, but this makes me want to take a REALLY hard look at the people on the AA9 wagon and how it developed.
if this flips scum, pine is so next- Vecna
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....and then its followed again later by a post like this. which reads extremely town.In post 1673, Pine wrote:
I don't mind if you stay.In post 1670, CheekyTeeky wrote:Reck, PP, NSG and ?
Pine would you like me to replace out? I seem to really rub you the wrong way. I'm happy to leave if that makes this game better for you. I don't appreciate being called a VI.
Part of me wants to insist, "If you don't want to be called a VI, don't act like one."
But I'm on a "Don't be an asshole" kick, so instead I'll apologize and simply counsel you to simmer down and come on a little less strong. Jumping all over the place, projecting absurd levels of confidence, sniping at other players...it's a recipe for people both disliking you and not taking you seriously. There are players around here I like both don't take seriously. There are players I quitedislike,but whose reads I respect/fear. Being disliked and disrespected is not a place you want to be.
Tell you what. One-time offer: clean slate. Relax, simmer down, and be more congenial, and we're going to be okay.- Vecna
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It was actually a serious comment / question.
You stated yourself i shouldnt make assumptions about how youd play under certain circumstances....so...
Are you claiming you couldbt come up with such a trope as scum? I wouldnt put it behind you to cone up with it abd make it convincing.
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Pine, I agree with your points, mostly, but at what point do we lynch a never contributing aa9? Because its not like the volume of posts is gonna decrease significantly.
Last game i played with that aa9 the exact same thing happened. extra effort was promised but never came, resulting in a later game lynch on the slot. It was done as town tmaa9 that game, but its not like that means its ai this game.
I have no faith whatsoever that contribution is ever gonna come. A lynch is gonna happen on the slot regardless.- Vecna
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Once again, mostly agreed. But.....In post 1821, Pine wrote:
Not on D1. Probably not on D2. D1 is usually the toughest, and D2 is usually half the pace. D3 is often 1/3 the pace. At that point, there's no excuse, and it becomes suspicious.In post 1820, Vecna wrote:Pine, I agree with your points, mostly, but at what point do we lynch a never contributing aa9?Because its not like the volume of posts is gonna decrease significantly.
Last game i played with that aa9 the exact same thing happened. extra effort was promised but never came, resulting in a later game lynch on the slot. It was done as town tmaa9 that game, but its not like that means its ai this game.
I have no faith whatsoever that contribution is ever gonna come. A lynch is gonna happen on the slot regardless.
When and if the lack of contribution actually manifests, we can talk about it. Until then, we have actual scummy players to investigate and lynch. On my agenda are Mutant and Vaxkiller, with Cheeky, LLD, Fire, and Reck previously dealt with. Also valid agendas would include sorting Alisae, Hyung and, frankly, you. I could also get behind pressuring hiplop, Penguin, and either Gamma, all of whom are similarly-low content slots which you seem to have no problem with. In fact, it's *really* suspicious that there's such an easy wagon on AA9, but no one wants to pressure any of those people. Personally, I find it to be tantamount to proof that she's Town.
I strongly prefer the aa9 lynch over the alternatives at this point. I have zero interest in lynching Gemerald, Cheeky or Reck (which seem to be the most scumread alternatives atm, even though i have no clue why since they all appear as blatant town to me). LLD also seems like a terrible lynch and im happy that wagon didnt succees in hindsight.
Hiplop hasnt been on my radar at all and penguin I know will at least be usefull if town later on. (Wasnt she getting replaced though?).
I still dont know why you consider firebringer as a sorted issue. Its still my most preferred lynch today, but atm im fine just ending the day with a lynch.
And this wifom about deducing allignment based on ease of wagon is a load of crap. sorry but it is, and you know it.
Overall I think were of a somewhat similair mindset, but personally i really cba to try pushing new wagons with my availlable time. Ill be there to vote vax or mutant though if u get it going (with a slight preference for vax). If not, im completely happy where i am.- Vecna
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Not quitebsure what to think of this post. you like pine, while you seem to have the complete opposite reads? And you didnt get a progression from anyone since your last bunch of posts?In post 1869, hyung wrote:I like Pine
I'm completely unmotivated to do anything day 1 because I've already given my opinions and whatever. I wanted this over 40 pages ago so we could have a flip instead of pages of useless posturing. more pages on day 1 doesn't give you more information, it just gives more shifts in public opinion and lets scum play the field until they get to a position they're satisfied with.
I'd prefer to lynch reck or cheeky. I don't think that's going to happen but that's my view here for the best likelihood of lynching scum as we go to the next day. I'll settle for anyone completely inactive or who's promised but not come through (I didn't like hiplop earlier for this and I actually think if we lynch a lurker, this is a better option - everyone talks about aa9 but hiplop is even more inactive yet people let him slip by without comment, so I think the aa9 focus might be scum motivated)
my viewpoint didn't change here and people's alignments aren't changing just because they're posting more or posting less. it's about what they're posting and I'm seeing a scum cheeky with a smug tone from having gone from wagon to no votes. you know scum who get away with it and then get people to townread them for activity alone? that's exactly how it comes off.
anyway. I'm going to watch and check in and fair warning, probably hammer the first wagon I see as long as it's not on a townread.
if anyone wants to help build a hiplop wagon I would probably want in on that too.- Vecna
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VOTECOUNT AS OF POST 1951
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youre pushing cheeky for absolutely no reason as well. All youre doing is yelling at people for voting you like a crazy person, pretending like they dont have valid reasons. They do have valid reasons, so start actually doing something else besides pointing at peope voting you for reasons that are completely nai. like you stated repeatedly that you would- Vecna
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Also I really dont get why people are townreading vax here. His reasoning here around the aa9 wagon just feels incredibly off. no real town thought process around it. He doesnt even aknowkedge his own wagon, but instead tries to focus all attention on aa9, with weak lines about "vote analysis of resistance".
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I cant shake the feeling that those catchup posts from aa9 were written by a different person than the "scum be lurking on my wagon" aa9.
I also cannot help but shake the feeling that vax mightve actually been bussing aa9 up untill now, trying to get credit from a sinking ship.
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fair enough, and i wasn't suggesting you have someone sit your account, more that someone was tailloring post for you in the scumchat.In post 2112, ArcAngel9 wrote:
are you out of your mind? If you doubt my integrity then please feel free to challenge me.In post 2111, Vecna wrote:ok people, literally open aa9's iso
fucking do it.
read the earlier posts. theb read thr catchup posts.
compare the grammar. compare the sentence structure. the weirs language mistakes are suddebly gone.
these recent posts come from a different person
English is not my first language but if I spend some time and re-read my posts. I tend to correct them and make them sound much better which is something I have learned to do it over the time. the reason my language may have sounded very bad because i wasn't really into the game earlier and i really didn't give time as ii am doing it right now.
I am also a trainer here so i am expected to be better and more constructive in my writing and i do it consciously if i feel something is important and relevant to me. If not, I just garbage my language, I get influenced by phrases from my mother tongue. I pretty write something only that makes sense to me.
Now stop being a dog with a bone and dont think that you have discovered something that nobody has done it. Do real scum hunting please.
but the speed of this reply completely shuts the door on that so.....yeah ok. ill take your explenation.
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