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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:55 pm

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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:56 pm

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In post 1123, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1115, Firebringer wrote:the worst and hebichan and aronis are town.
Only one of them is truly mechanically cleared. Elaborate on the other two.
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:57 pm

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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:15 pm

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Yes the people who think Hebichan are town 100% need to elaborate because everything about her conduct WRT voting screams "I'm fucking scum"

"I committed voter fraud for someone not in my own fucking party when I could have secured a fraudulent majority for my party instead and that guy got elected and executed town and I did it for
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" is one of the scummiest fucking fakeclaims I have ever read in my life.

Also I would like to point out that the Shit Posting Party - which previously had a lockdown majority in the largest district - has been deliberately split up into completely separate districts and thus entirely neutered.
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:16 pm

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Oh and she lied about it too, I forgot to add that
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:21 pm

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In post 1128, Wraith wrote:Yes the people who think Hebichan are town 100% need to elaborate because everything about her conduct WRT voting screams "I'm fucking scum"

"I committed voter fraud for someone not in my own fucking party when I could have secured a fraudulent majority for my party instead and that guy got elected and executed town and I did it for
reactions
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Also I would like to point out that the Shit Posting Party - which previously had a lockdown majority in the largest district - has been deliberately split up into completely separate districts and thus entirely neutered.
Uh what, having a voice in multiple districts gives you more power.

Winning a single district doesn't mean anything.
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:24 pm

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Going into night with the reveal that Edo was telling the truth and that two players had voted fraudulently, I became convinced that my initial suspicions that my party had at least 1 scum in it were validated, as Mylo could have been implicated.

But that it's abundantly clear at this point that it's Hebi and Tazaro who are the frauds, combined with how whoever gerrymandered last night has 100% deliberately tried to marginalized the SPP, I am now convinced that at the least WhemeStar and Mylo are town, if not everyone in this party.

I don't trust The Worst one iota and will not abide them being elected president again. I now consider voting for The Worst a scumclaim.

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Putting individual members of the SPP in different districts means our votes are de facto meaningless today because by default any two other players affiliated with another party can just outvote us. Controlling at least one district meant we could at least contest elections in a meaningful way by forcing ties. Now we can't do anything.
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:25 pm

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Dear god you are such scum, like the only way you don't get how that works is if you're trying to feign ignorance of the mechanics.
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:30 pm

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If you're in multiple districts you need to convince less people to vote with you.

It would take at least 4 people to vote with you to get multiple districts if you're all clumped together, and 3 if you're spread out like you are.

Mechanically it is slightly favorable to be spread out, but not much.
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:30 pm

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Look at the fucking placements and affiliations
In post 1044, jjh927 wrote:
The districts for day 2 are as follows:


Central Park

123456789 (SNKP)
Firebringer (SPP)
Invisibility (SNKP)
Ausuka (LSDOP)

Mayfair Club

ofrhz (I)
Not Known 15 (I)
Ruby Red (LSDOP)

Turns out I'm an idiot lol.

Hebichan (LSDOP) (
Committed Fraud for The Worst
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Myloninja13 (SPP)
skitter30 (I)
Aronis (I)

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Ruby Red (LSDOP)
Wraith (SPP)
Blind Bandits (LSDOP)

Theme Park

the worst (SNKP)
Tazaro (SNKP) (BMP) (
Committed Fraud for The Worst
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mutantdevle (I)
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The party allegiances as of the start of day are as follows:


Party allegiances:

Party NameParty LeaderOther Members
SNK☆TUFATMLIOSPFIGHTING DREAMERS123456789; Tazaro; Invisibility
Lynch Scum Day One PartyRuby RedAusuka; Blind Bandits; hebichan
mutante Partymutantdevle
Better Voting PartyNot Known 15
Shit Posting PartyWhemestarMyloninja13; Wraith; Firebringer
Unaligned-----ofrhz; skitter30; Aronis




The campaigning phase of day 2 has begun and shall end in (expired on 2018-07-03 19:20:00).
This arrangement makes it
highly likely
that an SNKP candidate will win again. I think this is strong proof that SNKP is compromised.
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:32 pm

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It looks like Ruby could win more than worst. Specially if you're worried about me, since I can't vote.


We're also not 100% on taz being the other double voter. Just pretty sure.
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:32 pm

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If I need to spell it out: SNKP has Central Park and Theme Park effectively locked down; LSDOP has Coney Island locked down. The only toss-ups are New York and Mayfair Club, full of unaffiliated voters, which can easily go either way.
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:34 pm

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You're also ignoring the party aronis made today.
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:37 pm

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I'm not sure what scum putting you all together or all apart really matters for your party though.

You only have three members, even if you won a single district, the numbers are still favorable for SNKP.


Plus the worst was split on voting me or edo yesterday, why would scum risk someone who, in your mind, was set on lynching scum yesterday and listened to town instead?
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:39 pm

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In post 1137, hebichan wrote:You're also ignoring the party aronis made today.
Missed that, I thought that was Tazaro
In post 1134, Wraith wrote:Look at the fucking placements and affiliations
In post 1044, jjh927 wrote:
The districts for day 2 are as follows:


Central Park

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Mayfair Club

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Turns out I'm an idiot lol.

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Committed Fraud for The Worst
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Aronis (BMP)

Coney Island

Ruby Red (LSDOP)
Wraith (SPP)
Blind Bandits (LSDOP)

Theme Park

the worst (SNKP)
Tazaro (SNKP)/(BMP) (
Committed Fraud for The Worst
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mutantdevle (I)
Whemestar (SPP)



The party allegiances as of the start of day are as follows:


Party allegiances:

Party NameParty LeaderOther Members
SNK☆TUFATMLIOSPFIGHTING DREAMERS123456789; Tazaro; Invisibility
Lynch Scum Day One PartyRuby RedAusuka; Blind Bandits; hebichan
mutante Partymutantdevle
Better Voting PartyNot Known 15
Shit Posting PartyWhemestarMyloninja13; Wraith; Firebringer
Unaligned-----ofrhz; skitter30; Aronis




The campaigning phase of day 2 has begun and shall end in (expired on 2018-07-03 19:20:00).
This arrangement makes it
highly likely
that an SNKP candidate will win again. I think this is strong proof that SNKP is compromised.

It doesn't change much.

Firstly, it's exceedingly obvious that Tazaro was the second fraud voter. Since you admit to splitting your fraudulent vote (which is in itself completely inexplicable and arguably the scummiest aspect of your claim) that means the other fraudulent voter
also
committed their fraud to vote for The Worst. Since Tazaro was a member of SNKP at the time, he is the go-to suspect. My suspicion of Tazaro is further stoked by how he was fixated on viewing the Theme Park District as a lynch pool for no apparent reason, apparently in all seriousness. And must I remind you all, Theme Park was the stronghold of SPP yesterday.

Secondly, I think the dynamics of the gerrymandering, which was orchestrated by the scum, make it
exceedingly
clear that SPP is a town party, and the scum are seeking to marginalize us. They are quite overtly attempting to make today's election a two-horse race between SNKP (whose members have
been proven to have committed multiple acts of voter fraud to elect their man (!!!)
and whose president executed a townie) and LSDOP. Therefore, I trust neither.

I urge the town to vote for the SPP candidate.
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:41 pm

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Forgot Ircher is for mutant's party now.

Still doesn't change much and I don't trust it either.
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:42 pm

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In post 1131, Wraith wrote:I don't trust The Worst one iota and will not abide them being elected president again. I now consider voting for The Worst a scumclaim.
I'm going to second electing elsewhere until SIMYK reappars. how do you read me?
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:44 pm

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how do you read mutant?
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:06 pm

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In post 1114, the worst wrote: I wish I'd killed Hebichan. my gut was screaming to but my reads are normally awful so I'd committed myself to trying to talk to my townreads first.

considering nearly the entire player list was encouraging me to execute Edos and I don't trust myself to make an independent good choice what's not good about it?

also not even gonna go into why Hebi and I are not scum yet
because there were two extra votes in that district, both for you, which gave you that district and in turn the presidency.

she admits to having frauded for you and you used that power to deliberately *not* lynch her, but instead lynch the consensus mislynch, and you're now falling back on the the excuse of 'nearly the entire player list was encouraging me' to do it.

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In post 1115, Firebringer wrote:the worst and hebichan and aronis are town.
because ... ?

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In post 1121, WhemeStar wrote:Make me president t
i mean, i don't think that you should like ever be president here irregardless of your alignment, but you do realize that with the way the districts were distributed logistically there's like no way you get elected, right? actually now that i think about it that's prob town-indcative. or that they don't want tw lynched. or both.

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In post 1128, Wraith wrote:"I committed voter fraud for someone not in my own fucking party when I could have secured a fraudulent majority for my party instead and that guy got elected and executed town and I did it for reactions" is one of the scummiest fucking fakeclaims I have ever read in my life.
this basically. also that she lied. also that she hasn't, like, actually made any reads based on this reaction test.

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In post 1135, hebichan wrote:It looks like Ruby could win more than worst. Specially if you're worried about me, since I can't vote.

We're also not 100% on taz being the other double voter. Just pretty sure.
in the interest of being thorough, i'm pretty sure you can vote; you just can't stand as a candidate.

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In post 1139, Wraith wrote:I urge the town to vote for the SPP candidate.
i think i would vote you if you ran, but i wouldn't vote for wheme because he apparently thinks aronis/tw/hebi are all town.

what do you think about fire?
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:45 pm

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In post 1143, skitter30 wrote:because there were two extra votes in that district, both for you, which gave you that district and in turn the presidency.

she admits to having frauded for you and you used that power to deliberately *not* lynch her, but instead lynch the consensus mislynch, and you're now falling back on the the excuse of 'nearly the entire player list was encouraging me' to do it.
I find it difficult to believe this is actually how you view my behaviour. I think you're being a devils advocate / contrary for the sake of it. have a read of FD/my ISO around the replace and the lynch if you actually believe this.
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:47 pm

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Like I'm not gonna duck responsibility. Edos was a liability and the fact he's dead has helped us basically unanimously sort the double voters so all things considered it's not an awful lynch. my "fuck all of y'all" post was largely a shitpost hence the comment about #badposting smack in the middle of it.
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In post 1145, the worst wrote:duck
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:14 pm

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In post 1144, the worst wrote:
In post 1143, skitter30 wrote:because there were two extra votes in that district, both for you, which gave you that district and in turn the presidency.

she admits to having frauded for you and you used that power to deliberately *not* lynch her, but instead lynch the consensus mislynch, and you're now falling back on the the excuse of 'nearly the entire player list was encouraging me' to do it.
I find it difficult to believe this is actually how you view my behaviour. I think you're being a devils advocate / contrary for the sake of it. have a read of FD/my ISO around the replace and the lynch if you actually believe this.
no, i understand that that post was a memepost; with the 'nearly entire player list was encouraging me' bit i was referring to:
In post 1114, the worst wrote:considering nearly the entire player list was encouraging me to execute Edos and I don't trust myself to make an independent good choice what's not good about it?
i was pointing out that you had hebi in your lynchpool for most of that phase yesterday, and you kept mentioning that you found her scummy (,, ), but that you ultimately voted out someone else. that by itself isn't inherently a problem; it's more that this happened *in the context of* the fact that she frauded for you (and majorly contributed to you winning the election) and that you kept bringing her up as being sketchy but decided not to lynch her.
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:17 pm

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In post 1139, Wraith wrote: Firstly, it's exceedingly obvious that Tazaro was the second fraud voter. Since you admit to splitting your fraudulent vote (which is in itself completely inexplicable and arguably the scummiest aspect of your claim) that means the other fraudulent voter
also
committed their fraud to vote for The Worst. Since Tazaro was a member of SNKP at the time, he is the go-to suspect. My suspicion of Tazaro is further stoked by how he was fixated on viewing the Theme Park District as a lynch pool for no apparent reason, apparently in all seriousness. And must I remind you all, Theme Park was the stronghold of SPP yesterday.

Secondly, I think the dynamics of the gerrymandering, which was orchestrated by the scum, make it
exceedingly
clear that SPP is a town party, and the scum are seeking to marginalize us. They are quite overtly attempting to make today's election a two-horse race between SNKP (whose members have
been proven to have committed multiple acts of voter fraud to elect their man (!!!)
and whose president executed a townie) and LSDOP. Therefore, I trust neither.

I urge the town to vote for the SPP candidate.
I agree with point 1

Not sure about point 2 though

Given the discontent with the SNKP term, I think it was pretty clear by the end of D1 that the SNKP wouldn't be a strong contender in D2 elections
I think I understand what you're saying wrt the SPP members being purposefully spread out. but at the end of the day, whemestar said he was townreading hebi, so I don't foresee myself joining that party. I don't see the merits in throwing my weight behind a candidate who likely won't lynch my top scumspect, all town party or not
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:28 pm

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Skitter i don't trust my own ability to read well enough to actually want to be king in kingmaker. I think I was pretty transparent about that.

encouraging my scumhubby Hebi to fraud for me then subtly shading her of all people towards the end of the day would be terrible. there are a lot of people yday who would have been very easy to position as mislynches over Hebi, who was actually presenting as trying.


are you seriously still NAGLing me/Hebi?
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