SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

[MariaR]

PP is def on the easier side of lynches imo

[Shoshin]

Who wants to lynch PP?

[Shoshin]

I'd actually like to see how many people support this "easy" lynch.

[the worst]

Eeehhhh
Not really no

[Shoshin]

the worst, you don't want to lynch PP?

[PenguinPower]

Because you're scummier than Nahdia, and your association to Nahdia has nothing to do with that.

Why am I? I'm waiting for your wall.

But, if you think that Nahdia is scum and confirms me being scum, it doesn't make sense for you not to vote Nahdia. You didn't say that the inverse means the same, so it leads me to believe you don't really mean what you say.

I've caught up. There's plenty of discussion about other lynches, so I don't think you're an "easy" lynch by any means. There's been resistance to it, even if that resistance hasn't always been directly defensive of you.

I'm the leading wagon at L-2 that happened in less than 24 hours. I'm a hard lynch?

The rest of your posts are like...bad.

See...this is why I like wagons!

[Shoshin]

PP, if you don't want to die, convince me that someone else is scummier than you.

[PenguinPower]

I'm not really worried about your opinion or threats.

Why not answer my question or respond to my statements?

I'm headed to bed, so I'll check in tomorrow.

[the worst]

the worst, you don't want to lynch PP?

Eeehhhh
Not really no

[Shoshin]

Why not?

[the worst]

hardcore not comfortable with this PP wagon but I'm not totally around enough right now to process why it feels wrong or where to go next. Agreed, please do not hammer this.

I'm underaged in the US so I'm going to need some apple juice in order to think about PP's posts rn.

may I suggest Australia?

[Shoshin]

lol what age can you drink in Australia?

[the worst]

18 :3

[Punreader]

Idk how to calculate your average exactly though.

I included the math in the spoiler.

You total the amount of points each player received.
You total the amount of votes each player received. (Some players received more, by virtue of their scores being known or in my case, zeros and ones being doubled.)
You divide the amount of points each player received by the amount of votes each player received to get their average.

I'm not 100% certain this was the method utilized, but it is the method I'd most strongly suspect as it's simple and intuitive to handle.

Pun

, can you give me your thoughts on

Fire/Maria

?

I could see any combination of town-town, pun-pun, town-pun, or pun-town as possible. I can tell you on play I am not punreading MariaR, which would make it slightly more likely it's town-town or pun-town, but this is not locked in. Regardless of their alignment, however, correct play is to let both live and gather more results.

After all, if both are town then pun can't let both go unchecked.

[Punreader]

@punreader
Whats your read on thebrawlguy/deasvail/theworst?

People seem to think that just because players have posted, the information from those new posts should always change a read. While that is certainly true of certain circumstances, you would be sorely mistaken if you thought that the content we have seen generated would shift any of my reads significantly as 90% of it is what I'd define as worthless.

My read on them hasn't changed, because nothing they have posted has shifted my stance on them since the last time I shared:

FINICKY FIVES:

the worst
DeasVail

TERRIBLE TWOS:

TehBrawlGuy

Since then, I have stated the worst is worthy of promotion to a six (light townread), but his position on the readslist doesn't shift at all even given that; he's still right between MariaR (originally Espeonage but Espeonage is promoted to ten on the grounds of being a cop innocent) and Fire Assassin.

The largest possible influence on my reads right now would be either a claim or a lynch; I don't foresee anything changing my stances aside from one of those two.

[Punreader]

10. Srceenplay
10. Taly
10. TheBrawlGuy
9. Chara
8. Shoshin
7. The Worst
6. vaxkiller
6. Dunnstral
5. Fire Assassin
5. Nahdia
4. pine
4. pun reader
3. lovebird
2. nico
1. mariar
0. deasvail
0. espe
0. PP

I will compile this tomorrow and see how it alters the final scores.

I would like to state however:

You know what, I've been thinking about it, and I cannot see a reason not to claim my role at this point.

I am Psyche, the message facilitator. During the night phase, I choose two people to get prompts to send a short message to each other along with the scores that they gave each other. Or, at least I'm pretty sure it's to each other, I'm still awaiting definite clarification on that aspect.

Both the people chosen by Screenplay last night are still alive, and I would have probably gone with one who was more likely to be voted out and one who was unlikely to be voted out, but that's just me.

This sounds like a punclaim to me.

[Punreader]

It would almost definitely fail if I were mafia and boosted by my teammates.

We know the rankings given are fairly accurate to the scores we know; as a result, it can be deduced players were almost certainly honest about their rankings.

Thus, no player claimed to boost you that did not actually boost you.

It did not escape my attention how many players have boosted you and when I recompile the data tomorrow I'm going to be taking a look at precisely that.

Screen's rankings feel pretty townie to me.

Quite the opposite to me.

[Punreader]

On second thought, I don't want another replacement to muddy the waters here.
VOTE: Nahdia

Speaking as a player who specializes in turning punread town slots into strong townreads.

I do.

Especially when the Nahdia wagon reeks of being a pun counterwagon to the PenguinPower wagon.

[Errantparabola]

Votecount 2.12

PenguinPower

(6): TehBrawlGuy, Punreader, DeasVail, Shoshin, Vaxkiller, ManWithNoName

Nahdia

(5): MariaR/Chara, Dunnstral, PenguinPower, Taly

Dunnstral

(1): Fire Assassin

Fire Assassin

(1): Espeonage

Not Voting

(2): Nahdia, the worst

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to achieve a majority.
Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-04 23:06:00)

[ManWithNoName]

I'm always confused by this, how is PP an "easy lynch" if it's taken over a week to get him to L-2?

Like, what is a hard lynch in people's books, then?

[the worst]

let's do thisssssssss

scores are approximate since the double-weighted scores are not an exact doubling of themselves (evidenced by Pine's slot; to get his average he'd have needed a 0 from Reuben/Lovebird which we know is not correct).
even so these are probably close enough to the actual scores that I'm feeling comfortable.

Position	Name	Rank
1st	Chara	8.29
2nd	the worst	7.19
3rd	Taly	6.71
4th	TehBrawlGuy	6.29
5th	Dunnstral	6.25
6th	Punreader	6.06
7th	Nahdia	6.00
8th	DeasVail	5.56
9th	Espeonage	5.56
10th	Shoshin	5.44
11th	MariaR	5.38
12th	Pine	4.94
13th	ManWithNoName	4.75
14th	Fire Assassin	4.71
15th	Vaxkiller	4.13
16th	PenguinPower	4.06
17th	Lovebird	2.00
18th	NicoRobin	1.63

Spoiler: data tabled (more #aesthetic than useful but....fight me)

X axis : receiver of score
Y axis : giver of score

	RECEIVER
GIVER	TehBrawlGuy	Taly	Punreader	MariaR	DeasVail	Espeonage	Dunnstral	Nahdia	the worst	Pine	Shoshin	Fire Assassin	Lovebird	Chara	ManWithNoName	Vaxkiller	PenguinPower	NicoRobin
TehBrawlGuy	10	1	10	8	5	0	9	6	2	10	7	4	5	6	3	4	0	0
Taly	5	10	10	6	6	0	2	4	9	5	8	1	3	10	7	0	0	4
Punreader	0	10	10	6	4	6	9	8	5	0	7	5	2	10	1	4	0	3
MariaR	9	4	10	10	5	10	5	0	8	2	4	3	0	6	6	1	7	0
DeasVail	3	10	10	0	10	2	4	5	9	4	8	5	1	6	7	6	0	0
Espeonage	9	8	4	5	6	10	10	4	7	0	3	0	1	5	2	10	6	0
Dunnstral	2	9	7	6	4	8	10	5	5	4	3	10	0	10	6	0	1	0
Nahdia	4	5	10	3	5	6	2	10	7	4	6	9	1	10	0	0	8	0
the worst	6	10	5	8	6	9	2	7	10	4	3	1	0	10	0	4	5	0
Pine	10	9	0					0		10		8		10			0
Shoshin	8	10	5	0	6	3	6	4	9	1	10	2	0	10	7	5	0	4
Fire Assassin	8	2	3	9	5	0	4	10	7	4	6	10	1	10	6	0	4	0
Lovebird
Chara	10	10	8	6	5	4	5	9	7	0	6	4	3	10	0	0	2	1
ManWithNoName	10	10	4	1	0	0	6	5	7	4	8	5	3	9	10	6	0	2
Vaxkiller	0	0	7	0	6	4	2	10	5	10	4	9	5	3	6	10	8	1
PenguinPower	9	0	0	10	8	7	10	3	6	2	4	4	5	0	5	6	10	1
NicoRobin	4	6	0	8	8	20	14	12	12	20	0	0	2	16	10	10	18	10
	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE	AVERAGE
	6.29	6.71	6.06	5.38	5.56	5.56	6.25	6.00	7.19	4.94	5.44	4.71	2.00	8.29	4.75	4.13	4.06	1.63
	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS	TENS
	4	7	6	2	1	3	3	3	1	4	1	2	0	9	2	3	1	1
	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES	ZEROES
	2	2	3	3	1	4	0	2	0	3	1	2	4	1	3	5	7	8
unaccounted votes	1	1	1	2	2	2	2	1	2	1	2	1	2	1	2	2	1	2
unaccounted points	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	0	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	11
av. unacc. score	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	0	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	5.5

[the worst]

...the fuck

[ManWithNoName]

...the fuck

Huh?

[the worst]

Spoiler: for chara only, no one else look

[the worst]

...the fuck

Huh?

I hadn't really been paying attention to my own rankings. never expected to be 2nd.