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*popcorn*In post 766, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
Yeah and Ankamius' Wisdom vote is like what.In post 765, Dunnstral wrote:Can we talk about how Hebichan said they would catch up then 2 hours later is replaced out THEN the mod prods people after
Like,Hebichan must have requested replacement - why did she lie to us and say she was catching up?
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Why is it out of character?
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I haven't!In post 775, Ankamius wrote:My approach changes with the game. I don't need to wait for opportunities because I'm already getting a reasonable amount of reads just from the several pages I've seen so far.
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is it lack of spicinessIn post 851, mastina wrote:
Would you believe me if I said I had an idea of what?In post 840, Purrcocet wrote:if we have 2 ics there must be a disadvantage somewhere else
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sure, if you want toIn post 886, grapes wrote:Hey ankamius are you gonna coast like this the rest of the game or should we just lynch you
that'll just be the indication that I need to start tryharding to put town back on the right track
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because it's the type of thing that if it's true, it's sheepableIn post 887, Moment wrote:
I'm certain this is going to sound more rude than I intended it, but if that's the case: why are you still inserting yourself into this conversation?In post 885, Ankamius wrote:I haven't, no
I'm sure I'll have her sorted for myself before too long though
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whyIn post 900, Human Sequencer wrote:i don't really feel comfortable living in a universe where people I think are town are scumreading nancy-
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ok this makes more senseIn post 902, Human Sequencer wrote:ok I'll write it with less failed attempts at sardonic humour
how are people legitimately, genuinely scumreading Nancy-
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[quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=10257139#p10257139]post 916[/url], Kaede Akamatsu"][quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=10257126#p10257126]post 911[/url], Ankamius"]kaede why are you sounding fake this game[/quote]
I dunno why would I sound fake to begin with, I've shared everything that crosses my mind, so you tell me.[/quote]
your approach entirely doesn't seem natural and the way it's progressing is jagged like it's being filtered or something
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Nancy wtfIn post 1050, Human Sequencer wrote:cuz u get me
I think we're actually syncing reads-wise and that's actually scary-
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she is going through the motions this game, her posts don't have an emotional weight behind themIn post 1110, Kokichi Oma wrote:Oh wait. I was in the pokemon game. She actually did make a similar post and it was also directed to wisdom as well. Hmmm.-
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idkIn post 1178, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
I’ve never played with her under either nic. What about that nic is so easy to spot?In post 1167, Ankamius wrote:sakura is very easy to spot tbh
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this could be scumIn post 1224, Nosferatu wrote:like aside from the AtE thing which is pretty NAI if you ask me, the reason she's being voted is pretty dumb
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is this really readable for ginngie thoughIn post 1231, zMuffinMan wrote:on that note, read ginngie iso and notice a total lack of anything town - only noteworthy thing he's done so far is call a few people town to seem like he's being reasonable and the way he does that isn't even town. he's just padding his post count with content that might seem reasonable when you don't examine it closely; e.g. love the totally real concern he has for where my vote is, though - 100% believe that's what frustrates him most about this game
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this also isn't inherently scummy, you need to support thisIn post 1242, Purrcocet wrote:In post 1231, zMuffinMan wrote:grapes is town, please stop being bad. just look at the angles from which he's formed reads on this game and if you tell me scum do that with a straight face then youre lying or kidding yourself
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I could easily see this as setting up for a fake vanillaize or block, the way this is worded doesn't feel genuineIn post 1250, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:It's only an inno if you believe 100% there are no goons.
Well guess I could check her tonight, but im an outed PR I don't have much hope and I was getting lynched anyway.
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this could be scum tooIn post 1262, Purrcocet wrote:could you like explain why his play throughout this game has been scum
something all of the people who were on his wagon never did past "uhhhhhjjj he feels off"-
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WHYIn post 1404, Human Sequencer wrote:I'm really mad kaede escaped the rope
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Nancy, don'tIn post 1280, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
I believe your claim,. It was also extremely specific: “Leviathan”. Voting for you at any point in the game would be a defacto scumclaim.In post 1277, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
So i'll just quote this again, so people read it, I've already stated im fine dying today, I've already done all I can to help find scum, there's literally not much else to do here should i die today.In post 1266, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:If that's gonna be my fate I want you guys to decide RIGHT NOW, you either lynch me right now and I die with my true role, or scum messes around with me in one way or another but you dont lynch me for the rest of the game, because im pretty sure someone down the line is gonna say that im faking it or some such.
Kaede's claim is dead null
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don't be badIn post 1306, Ginngie wrote:
I will slap youIn post 1304, Kokichi Oma wrote:Eh. I kinda want to lynch kaede now even after claim-
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btwIn post 1307, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: moment
time to go back to this
Im not convinced kaede is town, but moment was always the better lynch
I'm scumreading Wisdom because Wisdom+Kaede early game looks like SvS
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In post 1317, grapes wrote:VOTE: Kaeda
Normally I'm against lynching cop claims day 1 but..
This is scum guys.this is a huge towntell
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kaede should know better too, but it's self-preservation at work here
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^more evidence this is theaterIn post 1330, Wisdom wrote:
yes, do you have a point here? I admitted i cant read you at the end of our last gameIn post 1320, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:So basically you're admitting to not being able to read me if you're town here, it's a catch all.-
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andriod is townIn post 1353, grapes wrote:ok so
In queen of hearts town had a bunch of compulsive body guards
Nightengale we had a bunch of double voters
Maybe this game the "weak-ish role that town gets more than one of" is vanilla cop because
1) wis is kinda right that it aint too strong especially depending on setup and sakura fakeclaiming vanilla cop as scum is only really likely if she's actually a role cop i think (btw i think the "scum version" of the vanilla cops in this case would probably be akin to rolecop if that's in fact what's going on here)
2) I'm not sure fakegod would give scum the fakeclaim of vanilla cop to just have me CC and get a wicked easy scum lynch (thing is here, maybe he would, in queen of hearts the mafia bodyguard wasn't compulsive and in nightengale scum didn't have a double-voter, though)
3) ginngie and nos are both sorta reacting how scum would in a CC situation between 2 town
At any rate after pondering it's kinda cool that if kaeda and I are both town we both are kinda bad night kills and they can't block both of us so yippee i guess
Let's vote in android nos ginngie for today
VOTE: nos
ginngie is probably town because I have too many other scum suspects
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you're going to have to unpack this for me, kaede's posting around the vanilla cop claim is way worseIn post 1365, zMuffinMan wrote:tbh i'd prefer ginngie (and i specifically want to point to how he reacted to both vanilla cops as an instance of why it should be obvious that he's not town - because he should have had a reaction similar to grapes when kaede outed her role and his reaction to grapes' claim and his planned action is just... bad)-
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you've clearly never played with me beforeIn post 1434, Human Sequencer wrote:Can we stop fucking calling scumteams
We don't know the kaede is scum yet
we don't know that kaede is scum yet
Stop setting yourselves up for failure
No matter how sure you are or how sure in your read partners you are, you can still be wrong
Just lynch who you think is scum
D1 gets fucked so often because people post off their fucking minds and also because people overcomplicate things and details
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the game is completely separate from everything outside of it for me, this should be mostly clear from the amount of history we have both in and out of the gameIn post 1435, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Well this might get me lynched faster but.
Ankamius are you REALLY sure you wanna keep pushing this angle, but you and me know that town you would not SR a town me specially after that claim, and I'm pretty sure you know what's coming if I get lynched here D1, since I said it in the past.
And as an icing to the cake if i find out by any means that you were actually town and pushed me here, you'll find very quickly that i do NOT appreciate friends that do this to me.
Call it Appeal to Fear or whatever, but I'm done putting up with this BS from "friends" that "have meta" and "know how to read me".
even if not, just note that as proof of what I mean, Mathblade is one of my favorite people from the site outside of mafia, yet it's actually very recent that I can ever stand them in mafia.
so
I know that you are emotional as town, and I believe that it's within your scumrange to use emotion to try to deflect attention from yourself (and wasn't it even proven earlier in this thread? I remember seeing a link to a time you did as scum within the past couple days)
I believe Wisdom would try to push you as either alignment to 'counter' you, since I remember your reads generally are good when you're able to focus on the game.
here's the thing, though
Your emotion doesn't feel like it's coming from a natural perspective that you should be having with how things are progressing
Wisdom's push on you followed by the really awkward backing off after the pressure started easing off you (and by proxy, him, since the wagon on you was what replaced the wagon on him) doesn't look town
Your posts about and to him are the most fake-sounding posts out of everything you've posted so far
Wisdom isn't a shit scum player, I fully believe it's well within his scumrange to try to put you in a better spot to coast through the game while he carries by pushing other lynches ad nauseum
the entire thing has this air of bullshit theater about it that I really don't like.
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well, it's hard to explain this because it's more a continuation of the play I've been scumreading from her.In post 1441, Brian Skies wrote:
Explain?In post 1432, Ankamius wrote:
you're going to have to unpack this for me, kaede's posting around the vanilla cop claim is way worseIn post 1365, zMuffinMan wrote:tbh i'd prefer ginngie (and i specifically want to point to how he reacted to both vanilla cops as an instance of why it should be obvious that he's not town - because he should have had a reaction similar to grapes when kaede outed her role and his reaction to grapes' claim and his planned action is just... bad)
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if you're town this game, then I'm probably just going to give up on reading you directly, tbhIn post 1452, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
Ok fine.In post 1445, Ankamius wrote:Your emotion doesn't feel like it's coming from a natural perspective that you should be having with how things are progressing
Wisdom's push on you followed by the really awkward backing off after the pressure started easing off you (and by proxy, him, since the wagon on you was what replaced the wagon on him) doesn't look town
Your posts about and to him are the most fake-sounding posts out of everything you've posted so far
Wisdom isn't a shit scum player, I fully believe it's well within his scumrange to try to put you in a better spot to coast through the game while he carries by pushing other lynches ad nauseum
THIS is what I was looking for.
I am NOT scum, and if you do lynch me here I wont take measures against you, however, I hope if i do get lynched here, you reflect on how you actually look at my games in the future (unlike Wisdom who defaulted to just flat out not even try to read me).
Literally this entire list of things is that you dont believe my emotions feel natural, I don't even know what you're supposing I do here, if you expect me to be some godly town that solves the game outta nowhere or something, I do admit, part of my interaction with Wisdom is to get him off my back, because you saw how that blitz game from years ago went, you want that to ever repeat? I just want to be able to interact and form reads at ease without having to be worried about what scum may be using to jump at me, including but not limited to a Wisdom reading me wrong (Yes you have no idea, how much he scares me as either alignment I may have, and in hindsight I shouldn't have in'd to a game with him in, but I never expected something like THIS, however regardless of whether i quit MS or come back later, im never playing with him again, regardless of his actual alignment, this game taught me that much).-
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noIn post 1453, Dunnstral wrote:What if Nancy claims vt as scum to try to get her vanilla cop buddy to check her and claim results later
nancy is town