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Post Post #743 (isolation #0) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:13 am

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Good morning everyone!

I'll sink my teeth into this game hopefully today, depending on how much I'm overheating throughout.
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Post Post #756 (isolation #1) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:29 am

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UNVOTE: mastina
VOTE: Wisdom
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Post Post #768 (isolation #2) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:31 am

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In post 766, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 765, Dunnstral wrote:Can we talk about how Hebichan said they would catch up then 2 hours later is replaced out THEN the mod prods people after

Like,Hebichan must have requested replacement - why did she lie to us and say she was catching up?
Yeah and Ankamius' Wisdom vote is like what.
*popcorn*

What's wrong with a Wisdom vote, Kaede?
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Post Post #772 (isolation #3) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:38 am

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In post 769, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 768, Ankamius wrote:*popcorn*

What's wrong with a Wisdom vote, Kaede?
I find it out of character for you.
Why is it out of character?
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Post Post #775 (isolation #4) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:47 am

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My approach changes with the game. I don't need to wait for opportunities because I'm already getting a reasonable amount of reads just from the several pages I've seen so far.

When there's a reason to go into the process behind it more, I will.
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Post Post #785 (isolation #5) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:00 pm

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In post 775, Ankamius wrote:My approach changes with the game. I don't need to wait for opportunities because I'm already getting a reasonable amount of reads just from the several pages I've seen so far.

When there's a reason to go into the process behind it more, I will.
I haven't!
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Post Post #786 (isolation #6) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:01 pm

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why is there a quote there
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Post Post #816 (isolation #7) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:25 pm

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good to see mastina's reads and my reads are already leagues away from each other's
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Post Post #837 (isolation #8) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:51 pm

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hi Nos

where are your reads at right now
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Post Post #856 (isolation #9) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:30 pm

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idk moment

last game I had with Nancy, she was easily locktown within like ten pages
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Post Post #857 (isolation #10) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:38 pm

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In post 851, mastina wrote:
In post 840, Purrcocet wrote:if we have 2 ics there must be a disadvantage somewhere else
Would you believe me if I said I had an idea of what?
is it lack of spiciness

that's the worst possible disadvantage
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Post Post #859 (isolation #11) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:43 pm

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you would be surprised how easy some people are to read

Nancy is one of those people that wears her heart on her sleeve, I don't get the impression that play like this is reasonably fakeable
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Post Post #864 (isolation #12) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:57 pm

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I haven't read anything Nancy has posted in the thread yet muffin
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Post Post #878 (isolation #13) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:35 pm

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that just makes me even more confused as to why it's in contention that she's that easy to read
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Post Post #883 (isolation #14) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:38 pm

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when was that roughly?

there's probably scum lurking along in that part of the thread
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Post Post #885 (isolation #15) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:39 pm

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I haven't, no

I'm sure I'll have her sorted for myself before too long though
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Post Post #889 (isolation #16) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:45 pm

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In post 886, grapes wrote:Hey ankamius are you gonna coast like this the rest of the game or should we just lynch you
sure, if you want to

that'll just be the indication that I need to start tryharding to put town back on the right track

I don't think town are far enough off track to require it though, just a liiiiiittle bit off track
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Post Post #890 (isolation #17) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:47 pm

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In post 887, Moment wrote:
In post 885, Ankamius wrote:I haven't, no

I'm sure I'll have her sorted for myself before too long though
I'm certain this is going to sound more rude than I intended it, but if that's the case: why are you still inserting yourself into this conversation?
because it's the type of thing that if it's true, it's sheepable

being contrarian on things that are much more likely to be accurate than not is a distraction at best
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Post Post #901 (isolation #18) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:35 pm

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In post 900, Human Sequencer wrote:i don't really feel comfortable living in a universe where people I think are town are scumreading nancy
why
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Post Post #905 (isolation #19) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:41 pm

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In post 902, Human Sequencer wrote:ok I'll write it with less failed attempts at sardonic humour

how are people legitimately, genuinely scumreading Nancy
ok this makes more sense
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Post Post #911 (isolation #20) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:57 pm

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kaede why are you sounding fake this game
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Post Post #915 (isolation #21) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:04 pm

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cool Wisdom it is then
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Post Post #918 (isolation #22) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:08 pm

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[quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=10257139#p10257139]post 916[/url], Kaede Akamatsu"][quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=10257126#p10257126]post 911[/url], Ankamius"]kaede why are you sounding fake this game[/quote]
I dunno why would I sound fake to begin with, I've shared everything that crosses my mind, so you tell me.[/quote]

your approach entirely doesn't seem natural and the way it's progressing is jagged like it's being filtered or something

usually you feel more genuine when you post
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Post Post #920 (isolation #23) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:09 pm

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how did a quote I did nothing to edit break
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Post Post #1051 (isolation #24) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:27 pm

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Nancy is about 80% town

I'll have to see more before locking it in, but what I've seen so far is consistent with what I've seen from her in the past and the reasoning I've seen for her getting scumread is not evidence of scum-Nancy at all
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Post Post #1052 (isolation #25) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:30 pm

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ftr her specifically appealing to me indirectly isn't scummy even if we only have one completed game, I actually find that confidence to be a town tell
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Post Post #1055 (isolation #26) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:47 pm

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In post 1050, Human Sequencer wrote:cuz u get me
Nancy wtf

I think we're actually syncing reads-wise and that's actually scary
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #27) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:48 pm

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SIGH

that quote isn't supposed to be there
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #28) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:12 am

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UNVOTE: Wisdom
VOTE: Kaede Akamatsu

Rooooooooooooooooooooooooar

PEdit: you can trust me to catch him later if he's scum Wisdom
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #29) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:52 am

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In post 1110, Kokichi Oma wrote:Oh wait. I was in the pokemon game. She actually did make a similar post and it was also directed to wisdom as well. Hmmm.
she is going through the motions this game, her posts don't have an emotional weight behind them
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Post Post #1148 (isolation #30) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:02 am

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did anything major happen between those two posts?

they're pretty far apart
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Post Post #1166 (isolation #31) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:44 am

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she was probably worried I'd catch her dead to rights, nancy

very strongly doubt it's the only reason but it's probably a part of it
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Post Post #1167 (isolation #32) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:49 am

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sakura is very easy to spot tbh
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Post Post #1186 (isolation #33) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:51 am

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In post 1178, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1167, Ankamius wrote:sakura is very easy to spot tbh
I’ve never played with her under either nic. What about that nic is so easy to spot?
idk

all I can really say is that I figured out who both of her alts I played with were within minutes of first meeting them, it's more of a case of "oh huh, this sounds like sakura" than anything else and idk what the criteria is exactly
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Post Post #1190 (isolation #34) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:13 pm

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when it's well known what your weakness(es) is(/are)

you're going to get people abusing it
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Post Post #1194 (isolation #35) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:39 pm

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I don't either
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Post Post #1198 (isolation #36) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:49 pm

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same to you buddy
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Post Post #1201 (isolation #37) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:57 pm

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quote them for me
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Post Post #1305 (isolation #38) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:35 am

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I will catch up on the pages of posts later today
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Post Post #1309 (isolation #39) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:54 am

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Happy birthday Wisdom!
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Post Post #1393 (isolation #40) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:22 pm

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In post 1224, Nosferatu wrote:like aside from the AtE thing which is pretty NAI if you ask me, the reason she's being voted is pretty dumb

her voting nancy seems like a pretty fucking linear thought process? I don't see how town!kaede would not vote nancy when she did.
this could be scum
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Post Post #1394 (isolation #41) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:23 pm

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In post 1231, zMuffinMan wrote:on that note, read ginngie iso and notice a total lack of anything town - only noteworthy thing he's done so far is call a few people town to seem like he's being reasonable and the way he does that isn't even town. he's just padding his post count with content that might seem reasonable when you don't examine it closely; e.g. love the totally real concern he has for where my vote is, though - 100% believe that's what frustrates him most about this game
is this really readable for ginngie though

this is generally how you catch the pure-logic type players or people roughly in that ballpark, not the more stream-of-conscious-less-serious types
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Post Post #1395 (isolation #42) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:26 pm

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In post 1242, Purrcocet wrote:
In post 1231, zMuffinMan wrote:grapes is town, please stop being bad. just look at the angles from which he's formed reads on this game and if you tell me scum do that with a straight face then youre lying or kidding yourself

they ease in to changing based on the main wagons
this also isn't inherently scummy, you need to support this
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Post Post #1401 (isolation #43) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:30 pm

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In post 1250, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:It's only an inno if you believe 100% there are no goons.
Well guess I could check her tonight, but im an outed PR I don't have much hope and I was getting lynched anyway.
VOTE: Wisdom
I could easily see this as setting up for a fake vanillaize or block, the way this is worded doesn't feel genuine
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Post Post #1402 (isolation #44) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:31 pm

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In post 1262, Purrcocet wrote:could you like explain why his play throughout this game has been scum

something all of the people who were on his wagon never did past "uhhhhhjjj he feels off"
this could be scum too
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Post Post #1406 (isolation #45) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:33 pm

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In post 1404, Human Sequencer wrote:I'm really mad kaede escaped the rope
WHY

her play is scummy as fuck
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Post Post #1411 (isolation #46) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:36 pm

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In post 1280, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1277, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 1266, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:If that's gonna be my fate I want you guys to decide RIGHT NOW, you either lynch me right now and I die with my true role, or scum messes around with me in one way or another but you dont lynch me for the rest of the game, because im pretty sure someone down the line is gonna say that im faking it or some such.
So i'll just quote this again, so people read it, I've already stated im fine dying today, I've already done all I can to help find scum, there's literally not much else to do here should i die today.
I believe your claim,. It was also extremely specific: “Leviathan”. Voting for you at any point in the game would be a defacto scumclaim.
Nancy, don't

Kaede's claim is dead null

the way she's been playing it is why it's really scummy
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Post Post #1418 (isolation #47) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:38 pm

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In post 1306, Ginngie wrote:
In post 1304, Kokichi Oma wrote:Eh. I kinda want to lynch kaede now even after claim
I will slap you
don't be bad
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Post Post #1421 (isolation #48) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:39 pm

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In post 1307, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: moment

time to go back to this
Im not convinced kaede is town, but moment was always the better lynch
btw

I'm scumreading Wisdom because Wisdom+Kaede early game looks like SvS

this is only reinforcing that
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Post Post #1426 (isolation #49) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:42 pm

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In post 1317, grapes wrote:VOTE: Kaeda
Normally I'm against lynching cop claims day 1 but..
This is scum guys.
In post 1321, grapes wrote:
In post 1318, Ginngie wrote:VOTE: grapes
Okay apparently being subtle isn't gonna work

I'm a vanilla cop
this is a huge towntell
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Post Post #1427 (isolation #50) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:43 pm

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In post 1322, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Oh ok that makes things easy then
VOTE: grapes
kaede should know better too, but it's self-preservation at work here

she just needed an excuse to hop on over to grapes
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Post Post #1428 (isolation #51) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:44 pm

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In post 1330, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1320, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:So basically you're admitting to not being able to read me if you're town here, it's a catch all.
yes, do you have a point here? I admitted i cant read you at the end of our last game
^more evidence this is theater
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Post Post #1430 (isolation #52) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:47 pm

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In post 1353, grapes wrote:ok so

In queen of hearts town had a bunch of compulsive body guards
Nightengale we had a bunch of double voters

Maybe this game the "weak-ish role that town gets more than one of" is vanilla cop because
1) wis is kinda right that it aint too strong especially depending on setup and sakura fakeclaiming vanilla cop as scum is only really likely if she's actually a role cop i think (btw i think the "scum version" of the vanilla cops in this case would probably be akin to rolecop if that's in fact what's going on here)
2) I'm not sure fakegod would give scum the fakeclaim of vanilla cop to just have me CC and get a wicked easy scum lynch (thing is here, maybe he would, in queen of hearts the mafia bodyguard wasn't compulsive and in nightengale scum didn't have a double-voter, though)
3) ginngie and nos are both sorta reacting how scum would in a CC situation between 2 town



At any rate after pondering it's kinda cool that if kaeda and I are both town we both are kinda bad night kills and they can't block both of us so yippee i guess

Let's vote in android nos ginngie for today

VOTE: nos
andriod is town
ginngie is probably town because I have too many other scum suspects

nos is the best vote of the three, but not the best vote
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Post Post #1432 (isolation #53) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:50 pm

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In post 1365, zMuffinMan wrote:tbh i'd prefer ginngie (and i specifically want to point to how he reacted to both vanilla cops as an instance of why it should be obvious that he's not town - because he should have had a reaction similar to grapes when kaede outed her role and his reaction to grapes' claim and his planned action is just... bad)
you're going to have to unpack this for me, kaede's posting around the vanilla cop claim is way worse
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Post Post #1433 (isolation #54) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:57 pm

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and I'm caught up

Kaede + Wisdom + (Nosferatu/Purrcocet/Moment) is my pick for the scumteam currently

grapes wagon was bad, he's town
ginngie is probably town
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Post Post #1436 (isolation #55) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:02 pm

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In post 1434, Human Sequencer wrote:Can we stop fucking calling scumteams
We don't know the kaede is scum yet
we don't know that kaede is scum yet

Stop setting yourselves up for failure

No matter how sure you are or how sure in your read partners you are, you can still be wrong

Just lynch who you think is scum

D1 gets fucked so often because people post off their fucking minds and also because people overcomplicate things and details
aaarwrghhghghghghg
you've clearly never played with me before
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Post Post #1445 (isolation #56) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:12 pm

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In post 1435, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Well this might get me lynched faster but.

Ankamius are you REALLY sure you wanna keep pushing this angle, but you and me know that town you would not SR a town me specially after that claim, and I'm pretty sure you know what's coming if I get lynched here D1, since I said it in the past.
And as an icing to the cake if i find out by any means that you were actually town and pushed me here, you'll find very quickly that i do NOT appreciate friends that do this to me.

Call it Appeal to Fear or whatever, but I'm done putting up with this BS from "friends" that "have meta" and "know how to read me".
the game is completely separate from everything outside of it for me, this should be mostly clear from the amount of history we have both in and out of the game

even if not, just note that as proof of what I mean, Mathblade is one of my favorite people from the site outside of mafia, yet it's actually very recent that I can ever stand them in mafia.

so

I know that you are emotional as town, and I believe that it's within your scumrange to use emotion to try to deflect attention from yourself (and wasn't it even proven earlier in this thread? I remember seeing a link to a time you did as scum within the past couple days)
I believe Wisdom would try to push you as either alignment to 'counter' you, since I remember your reads generally are good when you're able to focus on the game.

here's the thing, though

Your emotion doesn't feel like it's coming from a natural perspective that you should be having with how things are progressing
Wisdom's push on you followed by the really awkward backing off after the pressure started easing off you (and by proxy, him, since the wagon on you was what replaced the wagon on him) doesn't look town
Your posts about and to him are the most fake-sounding posts out of everything you've posted so far
Wisdom isn't a shit scum player, I fully believe it's well within his scumrange to try to put you in a better spot to coast through the game while he carries by pushing other lynches ad nauseum

the entire thing has this air of bullshit theater about it that I really don't like.

(now that I think about it, Moment probably isn't scum here)
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Post Post #1447 (isolation #57) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:15 pm

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In post 1441, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1432, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1365, zMuffinMan wrote:tbh i'd prefer ginngie (and i specifically want to point to how he reacted to both vanilla cops as an instance of why it should be obvious that he's not town - because he should have had a reaction similar to grapes when kaede outed her role and his reaction to grapes' claim and his planned action is just... bad)
you're going to have to unpack this for me, kaede's posting around the vanilla cop claim is way worse
Explain?
well, it's hard to explain this because it's more a continuation of the play I've been scumreading from her.

it reads more like she found a possible out and is preemptively trying to justify not giving town any info from her role
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Post Post #1454 (isolation #58) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:22 pm

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In post 1452, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 1445, Ankamius wrote:Your emotion doesn't feel like it's coming from a natural perspective that you should be having with how things are progressing
Wisdom's push on you followed by the really awkward backing off after the pressure started easing off you (and by proxy, him, since the wagon on you was what replaced the wagon on him) doesn't look town
Your posts about and to him are the most fake-sounding posts out of everything you've posted so far
Wisdom isn't a shit scum player, I fully believe it's well within his scumrange to try to put you in a better spot to coast through the game while he carries by pushing other lynches ad nauseum
Ok fine.
THIS is what I was looking for.
I am NOT scum, and if you do lynch me here I wont take measures against you, however, I hope if i do get lynched here, you reflect on how you actually look at my games in the future (unlike Wisdom who defaulted to just flat out not even try to read me).

Literally this entire list of things is that you dont believe my emotions feel natural, I don't even know what you're supposing I do here, if you expect me to be some godly town that solves the game outta nowhere or something, I do admit, part of my interaction with Wisdom is to get him off my back, because you saw how that blitz game from years ago went, you want that to ever repeat? I just want to be able to interact and form reads at ease without having to be worried about what scum may be using to jump at me, including but not limited to a Wisdom reading me wrong (Yes you have no idea, how much he scares me as either alignment I may have, and in hindsight I shouldn't have in'd to a game with him in, but I never expected something like THIS, however regardless of whether i quit MS or come back later, im never playing with him again, regardless of his actual alignment, this game taught me that much).
if you're town this game, then I'm probably just going to give up on reading you directly, tbh
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Post Post #1456 (isolation #59) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:22 pm

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In post 1453, Dunnstral wrote:What if Nancy claims vt as scum to try to get her vanilla cop buddy to check her and claim results later
no

nancy is town
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Post Post #1462 (isolation #60) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:27 pm

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In post 1459, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 1454, Ankamius wrote:if you're town this game, then I'm probably just going to give up on reading you directly, tbh
Sigh, yet another one.
I'm really tired of people being unable to read me.
that doesn't actually mean 'unable to read'

it just means 'unable to read
directly
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Post Post #1465 (isolation #61) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:29 pm

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sigh
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Post Post #1469 (isolation #62) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:33 pm

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In post 1467, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1411, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1280, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1277, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 1266, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:If that's gonna be my fate I want you guys to decide RIGHT NOW, you either lynch me right now and I die with my true role, or scum messes around with me in one way or another but you dont lynch me for the rest of the game, because im pretty sure someone down the line is gonna say that im faking it or some such.
So i'll just quote this again, so people read it, I've already stated im fine dying today, I've already done all I can to help find scum, there's literally not much else to do here should i die today.
I believe your claim,. It was also extremely specific: “Leviathan”. Voting for you at any point in the game would be a defacto scumclaim.
Nancy, don't

Kaede's claim is dead null

the way she's been playing it is why it's really scummy
Wisdom said he doesn’t think she fake claims like this and neither do I. The clue was in the word “Leviathan”. It sounded to me like something she read right off her role PM. Until now, she didn’t even show all that much interest in selfpresing.
her role is genuine

that doesn't mean it's town
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Post Post #1474 (isolation #63) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:36 pm

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you aren't understanding what I'm talking about

reading directly means I'm reading you based on what and how you're posting
reading indirectly means I'm just fitting a read on you based on the gamestate and my other reads
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Post Post #1478 (isolation #64) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:39 pm

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that's not as big a problem as you think it is, since that's exactly the kind of thing I look for when I try to read the gamestate
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Post Post #1487 (isolation #65) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:47 pm

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In post 1479, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 1478, Ankamius wrote:that's not as big a problem as you think it is, since that's exactly the kind of thing I look for when I try to read the gamestate
Do you think I want to risk it?
Specially after what happened for "risking it" this game and having this end up in the way it is?
In post 1480, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Like remove your SR of me for a second an assume I'm town.

Why, after this experiment, would i be willing to try playing again, just so this could happen again.
read through police academy 1 sometime
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Post Post #1489 (isolation #66) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:48 pm

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especially day three

I almost ragequit a game I was hard carrying because it was that fucking maddening
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Post Post #1496 (isolation #67) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:55 pm

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In post 1481, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1447, Ankamius wrote:it reads more like she found a possible out and is preemptively trying to justify not giving town any info from her role
Okay, sure. I buy this because I kind of had a similar feeling when I first read that.

However, I feel like PR's do have a high risk of getting killed/roleblocked (both perfectly reasonable expectations to have once you've claimed) and we've had a vanillaizer before (which I did bring up to Mastina as a sort of a joke to her IC claim).

I did kind of like how Kaede immediately tried to process Grapes' claim ('didn't you have a thing in your role about voting first'; could be faked but meh). And while she did snap CC-vote him, I find that kind of reasonable and she did try to process the chance of there being multiple roles in other FG games as well.

Contrast this to Ginngie, who if his claim is true, pretty much accepted Kaede's claim as true and snap-voted Grapes instead of wondering why Grapes made his vote. I'm also not entirely sure what his stance regarding the Sakura wagon up to that point was as she did a great job of not voting anything before then (like, Grapes was her literal first vote of the game).
a lot of that depends on what Ginngie knows about Fakegod's meta, which I don't know if it has ever been revealed or not.

Kaede has a significant amount of experience with Fakegod setups. They're significantly more likely than most other mods to be unique in some way and have role interactions/focuses that aren't usually seen. I actually don't know how much she knows about the multiple-role thing since I don't know if she's been in any of them, but I don't think the vote on grapes is indicative necessarily because the role-processing thing only happened after Ginngie claimed.
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Post Post #1508 (isolation #68) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:04 pm

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In post 1496, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1481, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1447, Ankamius wrote:it reads more like she found a possible out and is preemptively trying to justify not giving town any info from her role
Okay, sure. I buy this because I kind of had a similar feeling when I first read that.

However, I feel like PR's do have a high risk of getting killed/roleblocked (both perfectly reasonable expectations to have once you've claimed) and we've had a vanillaizer before (which I did bring up to Mastina as a sort of a joke to her IC claim).

I did kind of like how Kaede immediately tried to process Grapes' claim ('didn't you have a thing in your role about voting first'; could be faked but meh). And while she did snap CC-vote him, I find that kind of reasonable and she did try to process the chance of there being multiple roles in other FG games as well.

Contrast this to Ginngie, who if his claim is true, pretty much accepted Kaede's claim as true and snap-voted Grapes instead of wondering why Grapes made his vote. I'm also not entirely sure what his stance regarding the Sakura wagon up to that point was as she did a great job of not voting anything before then (like, Grapes was her literal first vote of the game).
a lot of that depends on what Ginngie knows about Fakegod's meta, which I don't know if it has ever been revealed or not.

Kaede has a significant amount of experience with Fakegod setups. They're significantly more likely than most other mods to be unique in some way and have role interactions/focuses that aren't usually seen. I actually don't know how much she knows about the multiple-role thing since I don't know if she's been in any of them, but I don't think the vote on grapes is indicative necessarily because the role-processing thing only happened after Ginngie claimed.
In post 1500, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1496, Ankamius wrote:a lot of that depends on what Ginngie knows about Fakegod's meta, which I don't know if it has ever been revealed or not.
Why does this matter?
it matters because if Ginngie is aware that Fakegod is a fan of having a lot of the same role in games, then it makes more sense for someone with the same role as the one claimed to scumread the slot calling the claim itself scum.
In post 1496, Ankamius wrote:Kaede has a significant amount of experience with Fakegod setups. They're significantly more likely than most other mods to be unique in some way and have role interactions/focuses that aren't usually seen. I actually don't know how much she knows about the multiple-role thing since I don't know if she's been in any of them, but I don't think the vote on grapes is indicative necessarily because the role-processing thing only happened after Ginngie claimed.
Pretty sure she's already admitted to being in those games, and I can attest to at least one of them.

Ginngie and Grapes claimed at pretty much the same time. What's your point? Also, even if Ginngie didn't claim and she didn't process those other games, does her snap cc then look worse to you? Why?

Also, beyond the 'preemptively making excuses' thing you mentioned, which probably isn't as scum-indicative as you'd like it to be, what other issues do you have with how she's handled her claim?
the timing is the point. take a look:
In post 1317, grapes wrote:VOTE: Kaeda
Normally I'm against lynching cop claims day 1 but..
This is scum guys.
In post 1318, Ginngie wrote:VOTE: grapes
In post 1321, grapes wrote:
In post 1318, Ginngie wrote:VOTE: grapes
Okay apparently being subtle isn't gonna work

I'm a vanilla cop
In post 1322, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Oh ok that makes things easy then
VOTE: grapes
In post 1324, Ginngie wrote:Lol I’m a vanilla cop as well
In post 1328, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:I was gonna go and check if other games had instances of multiple vanilla cops (and if they were all town or not). Coz I dont really remember although I remember thinking that the Vanilla Cop was necessary to find whether vanillized claims were true or not, it's been like so long ago that i was in that game tho. Maybe muffin, kats or Brian remember?
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Post Post #1513 (isolation #69) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:14 pm

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In post 1510, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1508, Ankamius wrote:it matters because if Ginngie is aware that Fakegod is a fan of having a lot of the same role in games, then it makes more sense for someone with the same role as the one claimed to scumread the slot calling the claim itself scum.
I think he claimed experience from other games (like a Mastina game). But I still don't know why this matters (considering the context that he's admitting to have seen duplicates of other roles).

Anyhow, I know I'm the one who brought it up, but it's probably not a good point to continue pursuing this.
In post 1508, Ankamius wrote:the timing is the point. take a look:
Okay, but like, how does this mean her handling of her claim is scummy (or at least scummier than Ginngie)?
I'm confused

I didn't response to the point about it being likely that she'd be killed/roleblocked because that's the type of thing that's impossible to tell for sure without having a night phase or two, I find it more likely personally from her earlier play that it's more likely she's trying to justify being messed with role-wise

this entire tangent independently was my response to you saying she's more likely town because of the grapes-vote
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Post Post #1616 (isolation #70) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:33 am

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In post 1514, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 1513, Ankamius wrote:I find it more likely personally from her earlier play that it's more likely she's trying to justify being messed with role-wise
You got the events wrong.
I want to either be lynched TODAY or not ever because I want to avoid this situation:
In post 1342, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 1339, Wisdom wrote:Vanilla cop points to existence of mafia goon
Or vanillizer.
There was one in Nightingale's Tale.
Which is a reason I wanted to die without outing my role, imagine this:
A lot of people scumread me.
I live because of my claim.
Scum vanillizes me, so I dont get a result and I cant use my role anymore.
Town calls BS on that and lynches me.

We not only wasted a day, my role got nothing useful out of it, and I get lynched anyway for the same flip that could've been gotten today.

Hence my statement from before.
When? It's NAI until there's supporting evidence that what you're claiming is genuine.
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Post Post #1617 (isolation #71) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:42 am

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In post 1516, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1513, Ankamius wrote:I didn't response to the point about it being likely that she'd be killed/roleblocked because that's the type of thing that's impossible to tell for sure without having a night phase or two, I find it more likely personally from her earlier play that it's more likely she's trying to justify being messed with role-wise

this entire tangent independently was my response to you saying she's more likely town because of the grapes-vote
I mean, sure? I get that. But I also don't really see how this lock-scum's her, especially in the absence of the Grapes/Ginn claims. I still feel like those are reasonable expectations to have had once she claimed.

Yeah, I know. I wouldn't say that I think it's a towntell or anything, just that between the two players' reactions between the various claims, I like Sakura's more than Ginngie's.

I also asked you what aside from her 'preemptive post' (if anything) makes you think her handling of her role is scummy, because I'm pretty ambivalent about that in general.

Also, I see you're townreading Ginngie. Why? What has she done that's so town for you (other than POE)?
I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying here? My point wasn't that it's scummy, my point was that it's not particularly town. It's not a one or the other type of thing.

I don't trust Sakura's actions around the claim because my gut's telling me there's some kind of gambit going on here or at least some kind of setup to try to weaken town's overall PR strength. There's not a whole lot more tangible things I can say for it beyond what I already have.

A couple of Ginngie's posts have felt townish (especially lately), but otherwise he's been mostly leaning town because I don't really see how he fits into how I'm reading the game as one of the scum. I've heard enough about his scumgame that I don't think a scumteam with him on it tries all this posturing on day one.
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Post Post #1618 (isolation #72) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:46 am

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In post 1543, Wisdom wrote:And unsurprisingly, tons of pages later, everyone keeps ignoring me and nobody votes moment.

Gingie is a shit wagon and so is kaede. Both are flipping town.

Ank, go read any game ive had with kaede/sakura and youll get why our interactions are like they are. I don't treat her like other players.
I've seen it before.

I also have never felt like this towards them in any other game.
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Post Post #1619 (isolation #73) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:54 am

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Aaaaaand

the rest of the posts are just fluff or other stuff I don't care about, mostly.
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Post Post #1621 (isolation #74) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:09 am

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This gamestate is a train wreck
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Post Post #1657 (isolation #75) » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:44 am

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UNVOTE: Kaede
VOTE: Moment

w/e
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Post Post #1731 (isolation #76) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:56 am

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Can you guys chill until I get home please
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Post Post #1732 (isolation #77) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:57 am

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In post 1730, Wisdom wrote:katsuki's claim looks like a gambit at first glance

I might be biased due to last game tho
It's blatantly a gambit that is getting scum-sheeped
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Post Post #1779 (isolation #78) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:23 am

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In post 1747, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:How interesting.
Muffin's last sets of reads was to lynch, ank, nos, ginggie and andriod (i think?), and nos and ginggie were his strongest scumreads.
katsuki says ginggie alone visited muffin and nos is counterclaiming that he also visited muffin

Is it not weird that from katsuki starts attacking ginggie, and nos is counterclaiming it, and ankamius is calling it a scum-gambit?
Its an NAI gambit
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Post Post #1803 (isolation #79) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:37 am

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In post 1789, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Here i spent all of D1 (not really) trying to figure out if her (Ank's) SR on me was sincere or not, hence some of my interactions with her (I mean i even had a reach out that she ignored FFS), and I was thinking that maybe she was just bad at reading me like Wisdom admitted to yesterday...

Now i feel like an idiot. Maybe in the end im just too trusting.
Because it WAS fake, mainly by the end

There was a reason for it and I'm going to go into it later when we stop town from imploding first
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Post Post #1804 (isolation #80) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:38 am

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But no, Nos scum claimed and there's another scum on the wagon in heavily scum reading
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Post Post #1912 (isolation #81) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:30 pm

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In post 1695, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Well good news im still a vanilla cop.
I'm quite interested in knowing if someone got vanillized since if no one did, then scum probably doesnt have one and will mean that my role isnt as useful as I thought.
Ftr, last night i investigated grapes since they were the only other PR that was outed together with me and I figured if scum vanillized them instead of me for some reason could help confirm that they were the target of a scum attack, which would be almost like an inno. I initially thought of scanning mastina for the same reason, but after deliberation if scum does have a vanillizer they would target the vanilla cops first, since mastina's IC if real doesnt trigger for another day anyways.

Considering im fine and grapes is fine, im starting to believe it's possible they just flat out dont have one.
This isn't necessarily true, but it's unlikely that it wouldn't be claimed by now anyways so the conclusion is probably still correct.
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Post Post #1913 (isolation #82) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:31 pm

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In post 1698, Kokichi Oma wrote:Stupid lunch. We should have got Kaede. VOTE: Kaede this is scum
In post 1699, Kokichi Oma wrote:She vanilla copped her cc. Hahahaha
That isn't scummy and Kaede actually isn't scum.
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Post Post #1914 (isolation #83) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:39 pm

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In post 1700, Katsuki wrote:How interesting, it seems FG is now a fan of Amnesiac roles.

I received a PM stating that Ginngie and Ginngie alone visited muffins last night.


I'm pretty our watcher role does not need to claim today.

VOTE: GINNGIE
This is almost 100% a gambit.

I believe Katsuki is well able to gambit as both alignments just based on my personality read of him.

Katsuki-town saw the Muffin kill and decided to fakeclaim a guilty in order to sheep his reads.
Katsuki-scum wanted to gambit to get free kills; this would mean that town overall was probably in a pretty good spot reads-wise despite the mislynch D1.

Plus, the role being claimed feels out of place in this setup.
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Post Post #1915 (isolation #84) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:44 pm

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In post 1717, Katsuki wrote:Who knows.

Either way, it makes far more sense to vig someone hard to lynch whom muffins was hard reading as scum last night when we were chatting than to waste it on an easy lynch target. Plus, if I die overnight, I have 0 faith in you guys lynching Wisdom ever.
Another possible indicator that this was very much planned with a Katsuki-scum game.
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Post Post #1916 (isolation #85) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:45 pm

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In post 1720, Purrcocet wrote:my pool is like andriod nos

ill just let u guys lynch wisdom if u really want to there were like 3 wisdom wagons yday but i think hes town



Brian Skies wrote:If Ginngie flips scum, Ank would also be an okay vig target.
:cat:
I'm not really reading Andriod in either direction right now, but Nosferatu is 100% a great shot, no matter what happens today.
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Post Post #1917 (isolation #86) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:46 pm

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In post 1729, Purrcocet wrote:why is human sequencer town
Dunnstral wrote:UNVOTE: Ginngie

We can slow down for a minute actually

I don't understand people calling for an andriod vig, or wh y people think there is a vig after 1 kill
read: im scum with andriod
That's not a good associative.
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Post Post #1918 (isolation #87) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:49 pm

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In post 1734, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 1732, Ankamius wrote:It's blatantly a gambit that is getting scum-sheeped
especially since i visited muffin last night
This isn't the scumclaim I thought it was, but I still think this slot is very likely scum mainly because of tone.
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Post Post #1919 (isolation #88) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:52 pm

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In post 1731, Ankamius wrote:Can you guys chill until I get home please
In post 1732, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1730, Wisdom wrote:katsuki's claim looks like a gambit at first glance

I might be biased due to last game tho
It's blatantly a gambit that is getting scum-sheeped
In post 1735, Brian Skies wrote:I don't actually care about Katsuki's claim.

Also, Ank is still trying to hard-defend Ginngie, which I find hilarious.
Brian is a great vig too, this misrep is awful.
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Post Post #1921 (isolation #89) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:56 pm

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In post 1740, Katsuki wrote:OK YA I WAS PERFECTLY OK WITH ANK BEING VIGGED BUT THIS SCUMCLAIM LMAO

I DIDNT DEFEND IT AFTER GOING THRU THAT ANK ISO
YOU WERE 100% RIGHT BS
lol

Show me how that's a scumclaim
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Post Post #1922 (isolation #90) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:58 pm

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In post 1920, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1919, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1731, Ankamius wrote:Can you guys chill until I get home please
In post 1732, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1730, Wisdom wrote:katsuki's claim looks like a gambit at first glance

I might be biased due to last game tho
It's blatantly a gambit that is getting scum-sheeped
In post 1735, Brian Skies wrote:I don't actually care about Katsuki's claim.

Also, Ank is still trying to hard-defend Ginngie, which I find hilarious.
Brian is a great vig too, this misrep is awful.
Oh please, you and I both know that you don't make 1732 unless your intention was to derail the Ginngie wagon.
well

you're using meta as a case against me, so you should be able to figure out why that's town if you use it properly

I'll give you a hint:

(I don't try to derail the Ginngie wagon as scum. Maaaaaaaaaaybe if Ginngie was town, but not if Ginngie is also scum)
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Post Post #1923 (isolation #91) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:59 pm

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or just be scum

that works too
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Post Post #1924 (isolation #92) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:01 pm

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In post 1789, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Here i spent all of D1 (not really) trying to figure out if her (Ank's) SR on me was sincere or not, hence some of my interactions with her (I mean i even had a reach out that she ignored FFS), and I was thinking that maybe she was just bad at reading me like Wisdom admitted to yesterday...

Now i feel like an idiot. Maybe in the end im just too trusting.
What reach out? If it was after my reads shifted, then that's probably why.
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Post Post #1925 (isolation #93) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:02 pm

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In post 1799, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Even if Katsuki's gambiting, there's waaaaaaay too much of a coincidence in the interactions from ppl muffin had in their purge list with Katsuki's gambit.
Can you go into this more please? This sounds really NAI from how I'm seeing it right now.
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Post Post #1929 (isolation #94) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:04 pm

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then why do you say I wouldn't make that post unless I wanted to derail the Ginngie wagon?
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Post Post #1931 (isolation #95) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:07 pm

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In post 1927, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 1925, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1799, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Even if Katsuki's gambiting, there's waaaaaaay too much of a coincidence in the interactions from ppl muffin had in their purge list with Katsuki's gambit.
Can you go into this more please? This sounds really NAI from how I'm seeing it right now.
I went into it on the post I made before I voted Ginngie.
In post 1363, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:VOTE: nos
Will trust muffin's read because i dont trust my own read on someone defending me.
In post 1384, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:It wont be a vanity wagon if I vote it too
VOTE: ginggie
(and hopefully others)
?
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Post Post #1935 (isolation #96) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:15 pm

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In post 1927, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 1925, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1799, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Even if Katsuki's gambiting, there's waaaaaaay too much of a coincidence in the interactions from ppl muffin had in their purge list with Katsuki's gambit.
Can you go into this more please? This sounds really NAI from how I'm seeing it right now.
Like, the people from muffin's purge list were the main opponents to Katsuki's claim at that point.
Well, Nosferatu is scum regardless, so.
Ginngie obviously would regardless of alignment.
Wisdom is too, and he wasn't on Muffin's purge list.

And myself: I'm not going to go into what exactly I'm doing right now (since it's useless if it gets revealed), but I have a very good reason for scumreading Nosferatu as hard as I am; something happened last night that strongly indicates it with how he's playing today.
My reach out was when I self-meta'd (technically it was a reachout to everyone that has meta on me, but i was mostly interested in your reaction to it)
Can you quote it for me please?
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Post Post #1936 (isolation #97) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:18 pm

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In post 1928, Brian Skies wrote:I should also point out how your scumread on Kaede has magically flipped now that people aren't super hard on lynching her right now.

Whereas yesterday you were determined to flip the lynch back onto her instead of her counterwagon who was...wait for it... GINNGIE!
...you mean the wagon I was supporting well before Ginngie was wagoned?
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Post Post #1940 (isolation #98) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:24 pm

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In post 1930, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1929, Ankamius wrote:then why do you say I wouldn't make that post unless I wanted to derail the Ginngie wagon?
Because, why else does one say 'scum are riding Kat's gambit' unless you're intention is to stop, stall, or derail the wagon?

Your comment implies Ginngie town. Don't even try to pretend otherwise.


Meta has nothing to do with it.
okay

why does this = scum though
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Post Post #1945 (isolation #99) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:33 pm

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In post 1937, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:@Ankamius
Spoiler:
In post 1515, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Rant:
But wow, I never expected people to be able to spin all my goodwill to help the town into some sort of scum master plan, as the great scum planner that I am, so much that everyone dances like puppets under my strings when im scum and im capable of controlling the flow of everything in the game, so everyone has to scrutinize everything I say and slap a scum reasoning for it, instead of you know... actually reading me

</Rant>
In post 1517, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Like, I've been outside of my scum range since like several pages ago, this is just saddening at this point.
In post 1518, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Like I know im biased on this, but you're literally labelling all these maneuvers and pre-plannings on the player that is trying to not improve her scum game, because I hate that my scum game is praised so much when literally everytime im scum i dont know what im doing and somehow i get townread, AND THIS, in turn causes people to scumread me when im town because SHE'S CAPABLE OF FAKING EVERYTHING, SHE DOES IT COZ SHE'S EMULATING HER TOWN META. I'm sick of it, this is why I don't want to play anymore, seems like I never will be able to get a towngame where I dont have to be hiding from everyone coz everything I say is going to be part of some scum master plan or some such.

I'm tired

Of this.

I don't want this to happen anymore.

All I want is to destroy my scum meta, somehow, but Im not rolling scum to do so, and all I get is this kind of treatment again.
It actually did reach me, I just didn't indicate as such right away.
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Post Post #1946 (isolation #100) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:34 pm

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In post 1943, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1940, Ankamius wrote:okay

why does this = scum though
(:

Figure it out yourself.
okay

continue being wrong and scum then
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Post Post #2051 (isolation #101) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:31 am

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In post 2043, Katsuki wrote:
I TRACKED ANKAMIUS TO GRAPES LAST NIGHT LOL

VOTE: ANKAMIUS
Fuck off with your gambits

VOTE: Nosferatu
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Post Post #2053 (isolation #102) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:34 am

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They probably weren't, I blocked them last night
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Post Post #2054 (isolation #103) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:35 am

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And guess what

I also blocked Katsuki last night

Unless someone can confirm that it's possible for Katsuki to get a result without having that action themselves,
then it's a gambit
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Post Post #2057 (isolation #104) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:43 am

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...because Purr was going to vig me?
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Post Post #2062 (isolation #105) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:50 am

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In post 2058, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:More importantly why didnt u block Nos, you said yesterday they were scum.
...eh, fuck it

I'm a double jailkeeper

It's a lot more important to ensure that I'm going to survive another day than to try to heromode a scumkill block, since me dying is far more damaging to town than whatever scumkill was going to go through otherwise

I jailed Purrcocet because duh
I jailed Katsuki because both actions were beneficial; it stops a scumkill on Katsuki, which is reasonably likely based on the muffin kill night one. It also stops Katsuki from making the kill himself, since I would bet money that any scumteam with Katsuki on it would send Katsuki to send in a kill.
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Post Post #2063 (isolation #106) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:50 am

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Kaede

you understand that Purr's last AI posting was that they were going to vig me, correct?
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Post Post #2064 (isolation #107) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:51 am

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In post 2060, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:You acknowledge to agree that you think Purr is a town vig that could potentially vig you (They could have also vigged nos or dunn), yet blocked them.
You also said yesterday that "Nos is indeed scum" yet you didnt block him.
More importantly you apparnetly can double block and you also blocked Katsuki who got us a scum lynch yesterday.

Why am i supposed to think these actions come from a townie?
do you understand how fucking strong a double-roleblocking town is?
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Post Post #2069 (isolation #108) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:54 am

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ftr

blocking Nosferatu is not optimal because unless you're suggesting I'm his partner, there's no way that he makes the kill night 2. None.
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Post Post #2070 (isolation #109) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:54 am

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In post 2068, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:why didnt u jailkeep muffin N1.
I blocked two scumreads.
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Post Post #2075 (isolation #110) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:56 am

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Go ahead and explain where the fuck Purr's vigkill went then, Brian

unless you want to say that Purrcocet and scum both killed grapes
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Post Post #2078 (isolation #111) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:57 am

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In post 2074, Brian Skies wrote:Also Nos is confirmed town. Don't ask me why, he just is.

If you can't believe it, you can lynch me first.
you're both scum so it doesn't matter who we lynch first
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Post Post #2080 (isolation #112) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:58 am

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In post 2079, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 2070, Ankamius wrote:
In post 2068, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:why didnt u jailkeep muffin N1.
I blocked two scumreads.
I dont believe you'd try to hit 2 SRs than at least use one of your JKs as a protective.
You're scum.

I'll wait for mastina and then i'll vote you.

P-Edit: Oh no, im pretty sure you were involved in some way of form getting rid of purrocet's vig shot, i just dont think you're town.
BoP goes both ways, Kaede
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Post Post #2082 (isolation #113) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:02 am

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In post 2081, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 2075, Ankamius wrote:Go ahead and explain where the fuck Purr's vigkill went then, Brian

unless you want to say that Purrcocet and scum both killed grapes
Do I believe the vig was blocked? Yes, most likely.

This doesn't make you town.

Anyhow, I have nothing to say to you, and I expect your flip once this day is over.

Also, stop voting conftown, unless you just want to die that badly.

Goodbye now.
^lynch this with fire tomorrow

thanks
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Post Post #2085 (isolation #114) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:03 am

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hey katsuki

are you going to fakeclaim another track tomorrow?
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Post Post #2088 (isolation #115) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:05 am

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how about claim a vig on the nightkill
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Post Post #2090 (isolation #116) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:06 am

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actually how about powerlynching Brian Skies so his awful gambit doesn't snow everybody

since otherwise obvscum Nosferatu will get a free coast for the rest of the game
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Post Post #2092 (isolation #117) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:10 am

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anyways I'm going to sleep since I've been awake for the past 24 hours

last words since I assume day will end by the time I wake up: I still have very good reason to believe nosferatu is scum in this game and my townflip should be more than enough evidence to support it. brian putting his ass on the line to save him is the final nail in the coffin since there should be no way that this works when I flip town
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Post Post #2093 (isolation #118) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:12 am

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In post 2091, Katsuki wrote:BS and Nosferatu are my mason buddies though.
are you going to stop lying or
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Post Post #2473 (isolation #119) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:52 am

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I'm okay with releasing scum pt
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Post Post #2478 (isolation #120) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:16 am

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the first two kills she had very little to nothing to do with
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Post Post #2480 (isolation #121) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:16 am

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The muffin kill was all Ginngie and the grapes kill was all me
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Post Post #2483 (isolation #122) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:22 am

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meh

I achieved exactly what I wanted to this game, now I know that I can actually replicate a lot of what my town game does to reasonableish success

having an agenda isn't strictly a towntell for me anymore at least
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Post Post #2498 (isolation #123) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:58 am

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In post 2487, Katsuki wrote:
In post 2483, Ankamius wrote:meh

I achieved exactly what I wanted to this game, now I know that I can actually replicate a lot of what my town game does to reasonableish success

having an agenda isn't strictly a towntell for me anymore at least
Your play this game vastly differed from the past town games I saw from you. My fake guilty on you was a reflection of how confscum I thought you were (well, coupled with the fact you didn't die AND I got blocked).

Probably would have been better off powerbussing ginngie given that mastina was powerlurking.
what in particular was different?
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Post Post #2499 (isolation #124) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:58 am

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In post 2493, Wisdom wrote:
Ankamius dead PT wrote:My favorite part about this game is that I was able to fool Kaede (at least for a chunk of D1 and then weakening the scumread on me D2) and Wisdom.

Again.
I mean, I was paranoid about you at the end of D1, if it wasn't for Katsuki triggering me I don't think I would be townreading you

It was a mistake to scumread me and Kaede there
you were the only one that realized that I would've made those actions as town, or at least plausibly would have
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Post Post #2504 (isolation #125) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:16 am

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In post 2501, Wisdom wrote:nah, if anything it pinged me
I thought that as town you should be townreading me and Kaede

my townread on you came when Moment flipped town, thus rendering all my reads useless (my d1 reads were all mostly based on him being scum), and katsuki triggering me and wanting to read everyone the reverse of what he was reading them

so I wouldnt really say that anything you did fooled me

@ank
I meant night actions
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Post Post #2506 (isolation #126) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:18 am

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In post 2500, Katsuki wrote:It's been years since I last played with you but my memory of you was that you were quite transparently town when town.
that's surprising

generally only people that are pretty familiar with my playstyle can say that
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Post Post #2508 (isolation #127) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:23 am

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tbf

I was specifically saving that for when I wanted to start a big push onto Nos, I wouldn't have had anywhere near enough influence to shift the game towards that otherwise
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Post Post #2513 (isolation #128) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:30 am

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In post 2509, Sakura Hana wrote:
Ankamius wrote:My favorite part about this game is that I was able to fool Kaede (at least for a chunk of D1 and then weakening the scumread on me D2) and Wisdom.

Again.

Despite those two slots (and mastina tbf) being the two slots with by far the most experience with me out of everybody on this list.
You want in on a secret? I actually cant meta read anyone other than notty and wisdom.

I don't know why people think that me having a large games with them equals me being able to read them without fail.

The nos scumread i only mentioned it coz nos said he expected me to scum read him, and im surprised how that went lol.
I don't think you've ever turned from a scumread when I was scum before this game, though
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Post Post #2516 (isolation #129) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:34 am

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mm...

well, no

you were in a BotLane-scum as town too
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Post Post #2519 (isolation #130) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:36 am

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I was trying to emulate my town analysis patterns

tbh I should've just went through the whole game instead of stopping to respond to more recent stuff, but oh well
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Post Post #2521 (isolation #131) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:39 am

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Wait

Weren't you in skulls persona game too?
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Post Post #2527 (isolation #132) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:59 am

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Welcome to my world Kaede

I can be town as fuck, but every single time the exact person I need to be town reading me is scumreading me

Or I'm not town as fuck but still getting scumread for really bizarre reasons that either are NAI or missing the point of what I'm doing
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Post Post #2537 (isolation #133) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:23 am

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Fix my can't-get-reads problem too
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Post Post #2548 (isolation #134) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:49 am

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Was I supposed to be looking to claim my role?
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Post Post #2552 (isolation #135) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:33 pm

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I'm sorry mastina
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