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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:13 pm

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In post 1327, the worst wrote:they're scum
What makes them scum?
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:41 am

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ruby red for president!
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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:48 am

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In post 1342, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1278, ofrhz wrote:That role is so out there, I actually believe it

So if hebi is in a tied district today, we have to lynch her, if I’m understanding correctly
can you explain this again? i don't understand the connection between being in a tied district today and lynching her; her district wasn't tied yesterday, it was 3-2-1
she can technically win by the end of tomorrow’s election phase without us ever getting the chance to lynch her.

The sequence of events would be like:
- election phase —> tied district d2 (hebi’s first tied district)
- lynch phase (tries and fails to lynch hebi)
- election phase —> tied district d3 —-> hebi automatically achieves her wincon

^ in that scenario, I think hebi would win even if she gets lynched d3 because she will technically have been in two tied districts throughout the game

If today we make sure the greatest city in the world doesn’t have a tie, then it’ll be mechanically impossible for hebi to win. We can always try to make hebi’s district not a tie tomorrow but with her night action that moves around districts, idk if I want to bet on that.

Basically, the issue is that once the election results are out and hebi is in a 2nd tied district, she can win before we get a chance to even lynch her. We ideally should lynch her right after her first tied district but her protest ability makes this difficult.
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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:50 am

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Honestly I don't think we should care whether hebichan wins or not. We shouldn't go out of our way to make sure she wins but if she wins before we get rid of her that's honestly okay?
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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:52 am

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That’s assuming town and third party can win together though
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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:53 am

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In post 1353, Ausuka wrote:Honestly I don't think we should care whether hebichan wins or not. We shouldn't go out of our way to make sure she wins but if she wins before we get rid of her that's honestly okay?
Some speculate the game ends if their win condition is reached.

I don't think it will.
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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:53 am

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true but I'm assuming they can :P maybe we shouldn't take the chance actually.

That just means we need to get the people in the greatest city in the world to agree on their candidate today.
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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:55 am

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That could just involve having Aronis win that district while the rest of us elect mutant.
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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:36 am

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Hebi is at least a safe lynch today if all else fails
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:03 am

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In post 1346, the worst wrote:
In post 1345, jjh927 wrote:The greatest city in the World!
Adelaide?
i'm on a hamilton kick and it references the original name of the district lol

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In post 1347, the worst wrote:hey given the nature of roles should we like try and get a different president each day?
what do you mean?

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In post 1352, ofrhz wrote:The sequence of events would be like:
- election phase —> tied district d2 (hebi’s first tied district)
- lynch phase (tries and fails to lynch hebi)
- election phase —> tied district d3 —-> hebi automatically achieves her wincon
got it; i was thinking yesterday + today, not today + tomorrow.

if mylo is voting for wheme and aronis is voting for himself, i guess it's up to me? I think i probably don't say where i'm voting then because if i say i'm voting:

-> arnois she votes wheme
-> wheme she votes arnonis
-> anyone else she votes some fourth party

@aronis/mylo are you guys open to switching your votes? if we all vote the same way i don't think she can do anything about it.

or i just don't say where i'm voting and leave it very open in {wheme/aronis/mutant; with all three being a viable option for this purpose} because to get it tied she'd have to guess where i'm voting and then vote accordingly
In post 1357, Ausuka wrote:That could just involve having Aronis win that district while the rest of us elect mutant.
if there's a coordinated thing from elsewhere to let mutant win i think i'm ok with this
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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:06 am

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In post 1359, skitter30 wrote:or i just don't say where i'm voting and leave it very open in {wheme/aronis/mutant; with all three being a viable option for this purpose} because to get it tied she'd have to guess where i'm voting and then vote accordingly
You should randomly generate a number for it so that they won't know entirely.
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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:19 am

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In post 1359, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1346, the worst wrote:
In post 1345, jjh927 wrote:The greatest city in the World!
Adelaide?
i'm on a hamilton kick and it references the original name of the district lol

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In post 1347, the worst wrote:hey given the nature of roles should we like try and get a different president each day?
what do you mean?
1. great call and Hamilton is amazing. :lol:

2. well like the presidential bodyguard for example. I wonder if there's more roles which can only target current and ex presidents?

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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:21 am

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Everyone just votes Ruby Red or Mutant for prez and we're good.

Aronis wouldn't be too bad, but I think Mutant would make the better president, and I would highly recommend NOT being spoiler votes.
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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:40 am

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In post 1360, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 1359, skitter30 wrote:or i just don't say where i'm voting and leave it very open in {wheme/aronis/mutant; with all three being a viable option for this purpose} because to get it tied she'd have to guess where i'm voting and then vote accordingly
You should randomly generate a number for it so that they won't know entirely.
yep, if i'm allowed to do that, prob the best idea. i don't think that even if my vote gives the district to {wheme/aronis} that they'll get the whole presidency

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In post 1361, the worst wrote:1. great call and Hamilton is amazing.

2. well like the presidential bodyguard for example. I wonder if there's more roles which can only target current and ex presidents?

ヽ(`⌒´)ノ Just thinkin aloud
1. i'm a bit of theater nerd and super love musicals and see them whenever they come to my city; i occasionally go to NY and whenever i'm there i try to see at least one

2. ah so you'd want more potential candidates for such roles to target. eh, it's worth a shot. but i don't want random people that i don't think will make reasonable, rational decisions to get it. like i don't think it's worth it to expand the presidential pool by giving the presidency to people who'll like lol-lynch

i have a few ideas as to what some other such roles might be but i feel like i prob shouldn't speculate yet?
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:56 am

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agreed i definitely wouldn't speculate yet but have some ideas myself :3

I'm kinda the same wrt theatre. there is a lot of quality amateur stuff where I live but the bigger shows rarely come to my city. when I go to Melbourne I try and sneak one in if I can. ^^ musicals are my jam.
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:05 am

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In post 1352, ofrhz wrote:
In post 1342, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1278, ofrhz wrote:That role is so out there, I actually believe it

So if hebi is in a tied district today, we have to lynch her, if I’m understanding correctly
can you explain this again? i don't understand the connection between being in a tied district today and lynching her; her district wasn't tied yesterday, it was 3-2-1
she can technically win by the end of tomorrow’s election phase without us ever getting the chance to lynch her.

The sequence of events would be like:
- election phase —> tied district d2 (hebi’s first tied district)
- lynch phase (tries and fails to lynch hebi)
- election phase —> tied district d3 —-> hebi automatically achieves her wincon

^ in that scenario, I think hebi would win even if she gets lynched d3 because she will technically have been in two tied districts throughout the game

If today we make sure the greatest city in the world doesn’t have a tie, then it’ll be mechanically impossible for hebi to win. We can always try to make hebi’s district not a tie tomorrow but with her night action that moves around districts, idk if I want to bet on that.

Basically, the issue is that once the election results are out and hebi is in a 2nd tied district, she can win before we get a chance to even lynch her. We ideally should lynch her right after her first tied district but her protest ability makes this difficult.
Why do you care if I win, my win doesnt end the game, as far as I'm aware. I just leave the game.
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Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:08 pm

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In post 1365, hebichan wrote: Why do you care if I win,
my win doesnt end the game
, as far as I'm aware. I just leave the game.
This wasn't clear to me
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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:19 pm

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Sorry, thought you were worried about me messing up the votes, not ending the game.
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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:26 pm

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In post 1365, hebichan wrote:Why do you care if I win, my win doesnt end the game, as far as I'm aware. I just leave the game.
I'm suspicious still, and I'd like to get rid of your protest ability today, but okay, we'll go with it for now....
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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:06 pm

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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:43 pm

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Why am I so lost this game
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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:43 pm

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In post 1370, WhemeStar wrote:Why am I so lost this game
dw you're just scum flailing, this feeling will pass.
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who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:45 pm

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In post 1371, the worst wrote:
In post 1370, WhemeStar wrote:Why am I so lost this game
dw you're just scum flailing, this feeling will pass.
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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:45 pm

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Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:50 pm

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